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Apologetics

Creation/Evolution

DinosaursSaemmul Christian ChurchAn ICAHATTOWAK International Production

Al Bandstra

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Resources I used for this presentation:

Answersingenesis.orgZoomDinosaurs.com

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Do you know the answers to these dinosaur questions? Don't rely on popular images from dinosaur movies or cartoons! They're frequently wrong.

1.Were all huge, prehistoric animals dinosaurs?

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2.Did any dinosaurs swim or fly?

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2.Did any dinosaurs swim or fly?3.Were all the dinosaurs huge?

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2.Did any dinosaurs swim or fly?3.Were all the dinosaurs huge?4.Did cavemen live alongside the

dinosaurs?

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dinosaurs?5.Did all the dinosaurs live at the same

time?

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dinosaurs?5.Did all the dinosaurs live at the same

time?6.Did all the dinosaurs die out?

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2.Did any dinosaurs swim or fly?3.Were all the dinosaurs huge?4.Did cavemen live alongside the dinosaurs?5.Did all the dinosaurs live at the same time?6.Did all the dinosaurs die out?7.Why were the dinosaurs a failure?

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2.Did any dinosaurs swim or fly?3.Were all the dinosaurs huge?4.Did cavemen live alongside the dinosaurs?5.Did all the dinosaurs live at the same time?6.Did all the dinosaurs die out?7.Why were the dinosaurs a failure?

ZoomDinosaurs.com ALL ABOUT DINOSAURS!

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1. Did dinosaurs once live on the earth?


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Yes

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“Millions of years ago, long before there were any people, there were dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were one of several kinds of prehistoric reptiles that lived during the Mesozoic Era, the ‘Age of Reptiles.’”ZoomDinosaurs.com

ALL ABOUT DINOSAURS!


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“The dinosaurs dominated the Earth for over 165 million years during the Mesozoic Era, but mysteriously went extinct 65 million years ago. Paleontologists study their fossil remains to learn about the amazing prehistoric world of dinosaurs.” ZoomDinosaurs.com



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2. When did the dinosaurs live?

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People did not coexist with the dinosaurs (except for the birds). Although the image of human cave dwellers hunting dinosaurs is well established in fiction, it is far from accurate. People didn't evolve until about 65 million years after the dinosaurs' extinction. Except for the birds, who are the sole surviving descendants of the dinosaurs, the dinosaurs and people are well separated in terms of geologic time. ZoomDinosaurs.com ALL ABOUT DINOSAURS!




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Genesis 1:24 and 25 (New King James Version)

24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind;” and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

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Job 40:15 “Look at the behemoth, which I made along with

you…”

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Job 40:15 “Look at the behemoth, which I made along with

you…”Job 41:1“Can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook or

tie down his tongue with a rope?”

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2. When were dinosaurs found?

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• The story of their discovery began back in the 1820s, when Gideon Mantell, an English doctor, found some unusual teeth and bones in a quarry. Dr Mantell realized there was something very different about these animal remains, and believed that he had found an entirely new group of reptiles.

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By 1841, about nine types of these different reptiles had been uncovered, including two called Megalosaurus and Iguanodon.

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At this time, a famous British scientist (and creationist), Dr Richard Owen, coined the name “Dinosauria,” meaning “terrible lizard,” for this is what the huge bones made him think of.

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3. What makes dinosaurs different?

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• Other than the huge size of some dinosaurs, the major feature that really distinguishes dinosaurs from other reptiles (such as crocodiles) is the position of their limbs. Dinosaurs had posture that was fully erect, similar to that in mammals.

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Most other reptiles have limbs in a sprawling position. For instance, compare the way a crocodile “walks” with that of a cow. Dinosaurs would have moved like a cow, with the limbs supporting the body from beneath. Crocodiles “waddle,” as their limbs project sideways from their body.

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4. How big were dinosaurs?

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Some were as small as chickens, and others were even smaller. Of course, some dinosaurs were very large, weighing in at an estimated 80 tons and standing 40 feet high! The average size of a dinosaur, however, was probably about that of a small horse.

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5. What is the evidence that dinosaurs once lived on the earth?

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We find their bones and fossils all over the world.

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We find drawings of dinosaurs in caves all over the world.

A photo of “Puff the Magic Dragon,” one of the "dinosaur" petroglyphs near Middle Mesa at the Wupatki National Park in Arizona. It appears to be a depiction of a fire-breathing dinosaur. Though there is no certain way to date such petroglyphs, it is believed to be at least several hundred years old.





A picture of a dinosaur fighting a mammoth from the book Buried Alive by Dr. Jack Cuozzo. It was taken by the author in the Bernifal Cave, one of the caverns in France that is renowned for Neanderthal artifacts.




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This picture was drawn by North American Anasazi Indians that lived in the area that has now become Utah approximately 150 B.C. - 1200 A.D. The brown-ish film which has hardened over the picture, along with the pitting and weathering, attests to its age.


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Inca Ceremonial Burial stones, believed to be from the Nasca culture. Over 1100 were found in the 1930's by Dr. Javier Cabrera.



Here is a creature we know today as the triceratops. Is it possible that this was made by someone who actually saw a dinosaur?





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We find drawings of dinosaurs in caves all over the world.

Archaeologists and historians find sculptures of dinosaurs all over the world.

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Archaeologists find clay sculptures of dinosaurs in Mexico.



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An artifact from Tiwanaku, an important Pre-Columbian archaeological site in Bolivia. Tiwanaku is recognized by Andean scholars as one of the most important precursors to the Inca Empire. The sculptor depicted a dinosaur-like creature at least 800 years before European scientists discovered dinosaurs.












Some of the beautiful French chateaus built at the close of the Middle Ages and early 1500's have dramatic dragon illustrations carved into

their walls, ceilings, and furniture.















Deep in the jungles of Cambodia are ornate temples and palaces from the Khmer civilization. One such temple, Ta Prohm, abounds with stone statues and reliefs.








Western science only began assembling dinosaurs skeletons in the past two centuries. (Pictures are courtesy of Don Patton.)








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We find their bones and fossils all over the world.We find drawings of dinosaurs in caves all over the

world.Archaeologists find clay sculptures of dinosaurs in

Mexico. We have stories and folk lore about dinosaurs from

different countries around the world, some of them recent.

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1919 - there were rumors of a huge animal seen in the African Congo. The description fit that of a sauropod dinosaur.

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1919 - there were rumors of a huge animal seen in the African Congo. The description fit that of a sauropod dinosaur.

1980s - a team led by an evolutionary scientist traveled to the area to see if they could photograph the animal. Team members claimed to have seen it, recorded its roar, but didn’t get a picture.

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The reports of the Loch Ness Monster in Scotland.

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The reports of Ogo Pogo in Canada.

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Ogo Pogo in Canada.





Ogopogo engraving from 1872

Reconstruction of the Jim Reigger sighting.

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The reports of Ogo Pogo in Canada. Old history text quote, “Aelianus speaks of a

dragon in India, which, when it perceived Alexander’s army near at hand, gave such a prodigious hiss and blast, that it greatly frightened and disturbed the whole army.”

John Gill, An Exposition of the Old and New Testament (London, 1809), Vol 9; revised and updated by Larry Pierce, 1994-1995

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In the fifth century before Christ, the famous Greek historian, Herodotus, wrote about the “winged serpents” of Arabia.

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In the fifth century before Christ, the famous Greek historian, Herodotus, wrote about the “winged serpents” of Arabia.

Similar reports come from Egypt, Ethiopia and India.

European reports of flying serpents living in Egypt persist through the 1600's. The Italian naturalist Prosper Alpin wrote a fascinating natural history of Egypt in the 1580's. All is precisely like modern fossil reconstructions. A French wooden image, dating from the 16th century, displays remarkable features of a

pterosaur.



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In the fifth century BC, the famous Greek historian, Herodotus, wrote about the “winged serpents” of Arabia.

Similar reports come from Ethiopia and India.

Their descriptions are similar to what we know about pterodactyls.

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Isaiah 30:6 Kings James VersionThe burden of the beasts of the south: into the

land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.

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• Isaiah 30:6 (New International Version)

• An oracle concerning the animals of the Negev: Through a land of hardship and distress, of lions and lionesses, of adders and darting snakes, the envoys carry their riches on donkeys' backs, their treasures on the humps of camels, to that unprofitable nation,.

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6. What happened to them?

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• Evolutionists claim an asteroid impact 65 million years ago changed the climate so dramatically that the dinosaurs became extinct.

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“The dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period, which was a time of high volcanic and tectonic activity. There are a lot of theories why the extinction occurred. The most widely accepted theory is that an asteroid impact caused major climactic changes to which the dinosaurs couldn't adapt.”ZoomDinosaurs.com




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Researchers believe they have discovered the world's biggest crater off the coast of India which they think may be responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs 65 million years ago.



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Mr. Chatterjee believes the impact of an asteroid or comet of this size would have vaporized the Earth's crust on collision, killing most life and leaving ultra-hot mantle material to well up in its place.



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• Biblical creationists believe dinosaurs became extinct for the same reasons species become extinct today.

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• Biblical creationists believe dinosaurs became extinct for the same reasons species become extinct today.

• Hunting, clearing of land, pollution, lack of food, disease.

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7. When did this happen to them?

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7. When did this happen to them?

• Probably in recent history.

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8. Are there living dinosaurs today?

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“Dinosaurs probably live on today as the birds. All that's left of the dinosaurs are fossils and, perhaps, the birds.”ZoomDinosaurs.com



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• We hear stories of creature-like dinosaurs being seen by individuals and groups of people.

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• We hear stories of creature-like dinosaurs being seen by individuals and groups of people.

• There could still be dinosaurs today, but we have no convincing proof.

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9. Do you think dragons once roamed the earth? Why?

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• Like the flood stories, there are many stories about creature-like dragons from around the globe.

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• These stories appear to be based on real encounters with real beasts.

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• These stories appear to be based on real encounters with real beasts.

• The drawings of dragons in Asia and western Europe are very similar.

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9. The drawings of dragons in Asia and western Europe are very similar.



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9. The drawing of a dragon from Asia





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Painting by Gustave Moreau depicting Saint George slaying the dragon.

Saint George lived

in England in the 3rd

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Briton Riviere's depiction of an exhausted St. George lying down beside the slain dragon.

Saint George lived


century A.D.








National flag of Wales

Saint George lived


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10. What is the animal described in Job 40: 15 - 24?

15 "Look at the behemoth, [a] (possibly a hippopotamus or an elephant) which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.

16 What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly!

17 His tail [b] (possibly trunk) sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2040:%2015%20-%2024;&version=31;#fen-NIV-13880a

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2040:%2015%20-%2024;&version=31;#fen-NIV-13882b

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18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron.

19 He ranks first among the works of God, yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

20 The hills bring him their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby.

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21 Under the lotus plants he lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround him.

23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed; he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

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24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes, [c] (or by a waterhole) or trap him and pierce his nose?

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What information in the passage places doubt on the idea that this animal is a hippopotamus or an elephant?

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What information in the passage places doubt on the idea that this animal is a hippopotamus or an elephant?

17 His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

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A large dinosaur comes to mind!

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11. What is the animal described in Job 41?

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• 1 "Can you pull in the leviathan [a] (possibly a crocodile) with a fishhook or tie down his tongue with a rope?

• 2 Can you put a cord through his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook?

• 3 Will he keep begging you for mercy? Will he speak to you with gentle words?

• 4 Will he make an agreement with you for you to take him as your slave for life?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%2041;&version=31;#fen-NIV-13890a

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5 Can you make a pet of him like a bird or put him on a leash for your girls?

6 Will traders barter for him? Will they divide him up among the merchants?

7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons or his head with fishing spears?

8 If you lay a hand on him, you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

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9 Any hope of subduing him is false; the mere sight of him is overpowering.

10 No one is fierce enough to rouse him. Who then is able to stand against me?

11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me.

12 "I will not fail to speak of his limbs, his strength and his graceful form.

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13 Who can strip off his outer coat? Who would approach him with a bridle?

14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth, ringed about with his fearsome teeth?

15 His back has [b] (His pride is his)rows of shields tightly sealed together;

16 each is so close to the next that no air can pass between.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=job%2041;&version=31;#fen-NIV-13904b

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17 They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted.

18 His snorting throws out flashes of light; his eyes are like the rays of dawn.

19 Firebrands stream from his mouth; sparks of fire shoot out.

20 Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.

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Bombardier Beetle

• When a bombardier beetle (Brachinus) is threatened by a predator or an offensive invader of any kind, at the appropriate point of approach the bombardier beetle swings his tail-end around and hot, noxious gases, heated to 212 degrees F , are explosively released from twin combustion tubes right into the face of his enemy.

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21 His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from his mouth.

22 Strength resides in his neck; dismay goes before him.

23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable.

24 His chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone.

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25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing.

26 The sword that reaches him has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.

27 Iron he treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood.

28 Arrows do not make him flee; sling stones are like chaff to him.

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29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw; he laughs at the rattling of the lance.

30 His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.

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32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake; one would think the deep had white hair.

33 Nothing on earth is his equal a creature without fear.

34 He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud."

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12. Why is the word “dinosaur” not used in the Bible?

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Englishman Sir Richard Owen first coined the word “dinosaur” in 1841.

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Dinosaur is Greek for “terrible lizard.”

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Dinosaur is Greek for “terrible lizard.” Deinos - terrible

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Dinosaur is Greek for “terrible lizard.” Deinos - terribleSauros - lizard

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13. Why did God create dinosaurs?

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a. He loved them.

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a. He loved them.b. They reveal His wisdom, power, and

glory. a. Psalm 145:10All you have made will

praise you, O LORD; your saints will extol you.

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a. He loved them.b. They reveal His wisdom, power, and glory.

Revelation 5:13Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"

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