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1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 11th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA 2 CASE NO.: 3 4 Plaintiff, 5 -vs- 6 MIAMI-DADE COUNTY a municipal corporation 7 and political subdivision of the State of Florida and 50 STATE SECURITY SERVICE, INC., 8 Defendant. 9 __________________________________/ 10 11 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS 12 Defendant's Motion for summary Judgment 13 (Volume 1 of 1) 14 DATE TAKEN: Tuesday November 25, 2014 15 TIME: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. 16 PLACE: Miami-Dade County Courthouse 73 West Flagler 17 Miami, FL 33130 18 BEFORE: Honorable Abby Cynamon 19 20 21 22 23 Stenographically Reported By: 24 Court Reporter 25 1 keep together center add , add , plural Note: Should probably be "Defendants' " (plural possessive), but the notice may have "Defendant's". center cap add , Street Florida

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1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 11th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA

2 CASE NO.:

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4 Plaintiff,

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6MIAMI-DADE COUNTY a municipal corporation

7 and political subdivision of the State of Florida and 50 STATE SECURITY SERVICE, INC.,

8 Defendant.

9 __________________________________/

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11 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

12 Defendant's Motion for summary Judgment

13 (Volume 1 of 1)

14 DATE TAKEN: Tuesday November 25, 2014

15 TIME: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

16 PLACE: Miami-Dade County Courthouse 73 West Flagler

17 Miami, FL 33130

18 BEFORE: Honorable Abby Cynamon

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1 APPEARANCES

2 On Behalf of the Plaintiff:

3 KLEMICK & GAMPEL 1953 SW 27th Avenue

4 Miami, FL 33145 BY: HERMAN KLEMICK, ESQUIRE

5On Behalf of the Defendants:

6MINTZER, SAROWITZ, ZERIS, LEDVA & MEYERS, LLP

7 1000 N.W. 57th Court Suite 300

8 Miami, FL [email protected]

9 BY: JAVIER RAMON, ESQUIRE

10LAW OFFICE OF JAMES J. GALLAGHER

11 200 East BrowardSuite 1000

12 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 BY: DONALD MATES, ESQUIRE

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14INDEX OF PROCEEDINGS

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17Court’s Ruling 28

18Certificate of Reporter 29

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1 (The following proceedings were had :)

2 THE COURT: So I believe we have an hour

3 together.

4 MR. CIAMPA: We don't have to take an hour.

5 THE COURT: I am six minutes late, so you have an

6 extra six minutes.

7 MR. JAVIER: We have some props for you. You

8 have the video.

9 THE COURT: I remember the video. Wonderful.

10 Delightful. Let me get everything out because I have

11 everything tabbed. Do you want me to come down and take a

12 look at the video when it's appropriate?

13 MR. JAVIER: Whatever you want. I can probably

14 prop it up for you, so you can stay at the bench.

15 THE COURT: Does anyone else need to see it? Do

16 you need to see me see it?

17 MR. MATES: No, Judge.

18 THE COURT: Okay. Well, then why don't you bring

19 it up here? Is the cord long enough?

20 MR. CIAMPA: May I stand on the side to look at

21 it?

22 THE COURT: Sure. I'll tell you what, why don't

23 you come down, this way we can all see it. You can come

24 on over here and we can all look together.

25 MR. JAVIER: This is about a five-minute video.

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1 (Video commencing off the record.)

2 MR. CIAMPA: Your Honor, may I remain at the

3 table just so I can see?

4 THE COURT: Whatever you want. Everyone can be

5 where ever they want to be. I guess we should put on the

6 record that I just saw, I guess, what purports to be a

7 seven-and-a-half minute video re-enactment.

8 MR. MATES: Yes, Judge. Judge Donald Mates on

9 behalf of 50 States Security Services, Inc. Judge, it's

10 our motion for final summary judgment. Judge, my client

11 had a contract with Miami-Dade County to provide security

12 services for the Metro Dade Transit System. That's the

13 Metrorail System only. We provided Your Honor, of course,

14 with the contract as a bid contract.

15 THE COURT: I remember it.

16 MR. MATES: We've also provided you with a

17 deposition of . is the Chief of

18 Safety and Security for Miami-Dade County. He is the

19 county contract administrator. He has supervisors that go

20 out into the Metrorail systems to ensure that 50 States is

21 in contract compliance. 50 States was to provide security

22 services to protect, and this is important, Judge -- 50

23 States Security Service is to protect Miami-Dade transit

24 property, Miami-Dade County personnel and patrons of the

25 Metro Transit System.

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1 THE COURT: And you argue he's not in any

2 category?

3 MR. MATES: That's correct, Judge. Patrons --

4 is there for the county to enforce the

5 contract. His position is that patrons are people who

6 actually purchase tickets for the Metrorail System.

7 That's found on page 18 and again on page 65 of his

8 deposition. He also stated that security officers must be

9 at the kiosk. The kiosk is at the very end of that video

10 tape, Judge. Inside the kiosk -- and they're supposed to

11 be turnstiles. He doesn't call them turnstiles. That's

12 an old fashion system. That's what I used to call them.

13 THE COURT: That's what I would call them, too.

14 MR. MATES: They call them fair gates. And

15 during peak hours -- peak hours are defined as 6:00 a.m.

16 and 9:00 a.m. That rush hour, obviously. The security

17 guard must be right at the fair gates to help, ensure

18 people don't jump over the gate. To help people if they

19 are in wheelchairs or need assistance to get through the

20 gates. Sometimes people have problems putting their

21 tokens in to get through -- he is right there at the gate

22 to ensure that they're there. He stated that if the

23 security guard went out onto the sidewalk on 27th Avenue

24 where Mr. was walking just before the incident

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1 violation of the contract and 50 States would be subject

2 to a fine, administrative costs, they could even be

3 terminated for not being in contract compliance.

4 Because they wouldn't be in a position to see the

5 responsibilities of the fair-gate task that they were

6 responsible for during the time from six to nine and this

7 incident occurred slightly after 6:00 a.m. Now, here is

8 the law that I have indicated is that for security

9 guards -- security guards do not owe a general contractual

10 duty to people. They are not the premises owner. Miami-

11 Dade County is premise owner and their duties are much

12 greater than 50 States Security duties. 50 States

13 Security duty is strictly defined by the contract.

14 The contract said that they have certain

15 responsibilities at open of the Metrorail System at 4:00

16 in the morning, certain responsibilities of closing at

17 1:00 a.m. But during the peak hours at 6:00 a.m. and

18 9:00 a.m., they're supposed to be inside the Metrorail

19 building right by the turnstiles. The fair gates to help

20 make sure they're protecting the Miami-Dade property,

21 Miami-Dade personnel and patrons, people who actually buy

22 the tickets. That's where they're supposed to be.

23 Now, after Mr. was shot and you saw him

24 walk along the outside of the fence, through the gap in

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1 to get into it, he was there and then he fell down and

2 that is exactly where the guard was at. That's exactly

3 where he's supposed to be. That's his contractual

4 obligations. When he fell down, the security guard

5 immediately responded, called fire rescue, called the

6 police. Fire rescue came and his life was saved.

7 The detectives found the bad guy and he was

8 eventually arrested and sentenced to ten years in jail.

9 Our position, Judge, simply is that we complied with the

10 contract. We complied with the duties and

11 responsibilities of the contract. Mr. reviewed

12 everything and found there was no violation of the

13 contractual duties. We were never fined. We were never

14 disciplined in any way. We feel that we're entitled to a

15 summary judgment because there was no breach of the duty

16 that was owed to Mr. by 50 States Security.

17 Thank you, Judge.

18 THE COURT: Can I ask one question?

19 MR. MATES: Sure.

20 THE COURT: If he -- if he was somewhere in the

21 station -- if he were somewhere in the station, it seems

22 like he was on a walkway and then ran to a grassy -- he

23 was on a walkway on the way into a Metrorail station, but

24 was not per se in it. And then he saw the man with the

25 gun and then he ran into a fenced-in grassy area where he

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1 was shot. Just -- I don't know the legal status of either

2 of those, either the sidewalk or the fenced in grassy

3 area. But just assume for purposes of my question that

4 that was within the Metrorail station, would you still

5 seek summary judgment because you would argue that the

6 guard only had a duty to be over by the fair gate?

7 MR. MATES: He has to be --

8 THE COURT: I'm sorry if that's a weird question.

9 If he was shot on the platform and the guard was on the

10 fair gate -- I know he wasn't.

11 MR. MATES: Well, if he was on the platform that

12 means he was a patron. That means he --

13 THE COURT: So he wasn't a fair jumper?

14 MR. MATES: Right. He wasn't a fair jumper. If

15 he was up on the platform, then he's a patron and, yes, we

16 owe him a duty. There's no doubt about that. I wouldn't

17 be in front of Your Honor right now asking for a summary

18 judgment because we would owe him a duty. Maybe the jury

19 would see it a different way because we can't be upstairs

20 and downstairs at that same time, but clearly we would owe

21 him a duty and I wouldn't be in front of Your Honor.

22 He was walking along, as you saw, the 27th Avenue

23 sidewalk, like any other pedestrian in Dade County,

24 walking along the sidewalk. And he realized that he was

25 being followed by, what turned out to be, a shooter. He

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1 then made a left-hand turn off the sidewalk and onto Dade

2 County property. Because they do own -- we found that out

3 there is Dade County property and as he was walking along

4 the walkway to the gates, but not through the gates, and

5 then he made a right turn away from the gate and along the

6 outside of the fence area where he was shot.

7 Now, you saw how the building was and where the

8 guards were located. They could not see anything. You

9 could barely hear anything. The guards who were paying

10 attention -- there is no doubt that the guards were paying

11 attention and I don't believe there going to be an issue

12 as to that. They didn't hear or see anything because they

13 were exactly where they were supposed to be. As a matter

14 of fact and I understand the plaintiff's are going to say,

15 well, he could have been patrolling outside that area. We

16 asked Mr. that exact same question and that would

17 have been in violation of the contract.

18 It would have been subject to certain fines and

19 administrative problems because he was no longer at the

20 station. One more thing, Judge, and I know we brought

21 this up to you last time and you said it had no

22 prejudicial value, but I was the attorney at the exact

23 same station in another case. And, again, I showed you

24 the brief and showed you the procurement affirmed.

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1 MR. MATES: And in that case the plaintiff was

2 shot at the bus station. The bus station -- you have the

3 Metrorail System basically right here, Judge. And the bus

4 station is right here. Within the fence area. They're

5 side-by-side.

6 The plaintiff in that case was never a patron of

7 the Metrorail. He was going from one bus to another. He

8 was waiting for the transfer when he was shot and he

9 brought an action against 50 States Security and the

10 trial -- the trial court in Dade County granted the motion

11 for summary judgment saying there was no duty owed to him

12 because he was never a patron of the Metrorail System and

13 that went up on appeal and was a procurement affirmed. I

14 showed you the brief and I showed you the PCA. This case

15 is so much different. To me, it's so much more clearer

16 because he wasn't even inside the fenced area.

17 But, in any event, he certainly was not a patron

18 of the Metrorail System.

19 THE COURT: That grassy area where he said in

20 Spanish and then in English this is where he fell after he

21 was shot, I thought there was a fence around that.

22 MR. MATES: There's a fence.

23 THE COURT: So who owns that property?

24 MR. MATES: Dade County owns that property.

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1 law, that 50 States has no obligation to control that

2 because it's not part of the Metrorail station?

3 MR. MATES: Yes. If you look at the contract, we

4 have the post orders. The post orders are very clear and

5 that's our duties. The case law that I've cited --

6 THE COURT: Respectfully, you're answering a

7 different question than what I'm asking. It's probably my

8 fault because I'm not asking it clearly. I understand

9 that your client has post orders and that there are fines

10 and penalties and consequences with regard to wonder off

11 their post and leave the facility, which they're supposed

12 to be guarding. And I understand that if someone had gone

13 through the fair gates, a duty is owed to that person

14 because that makes them a patron under the contract. I am

15 curious what you can show me where I can conclude, as a

16 matter of law, that fenced-in area, that fenced-in grassy

17 area where he was shot, was not part of the Metrorail

18 station; and, therefore, not part of 50 States contractual

19 duty to patrol.

20 MR. MATES: Well, because we asked Mr.

21 that same question. That's why I asked them if they were

22 out -- if the security guard had wandered away from his

23 post and into the grassy area, for example, which is what

24 you're suggesting -- and I asked him specifically you look

25 at his answer on page 39 -- page 39 of 's

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1 deposition.

2 THE COURT: Okay.

3 MR. MATES: I am paraphrasing, but it basically

4 says, "If a security guard was on the sidewalk or on the

5 grassy area, he would be away from his post?" And if he's

6 away from his post, there are consequences that could

7 occur and that's why they had to be where they are. And

8 the case law, Judge, just to give you a level --

9 THE COURT: Can I try this again? I'm sorry. I

10 have been in special sets all day and I must not be

11 articulating my question. I am less concerned with, in

12 all respect given to Mr. and his position, I am

13 less concerned with his interpretation of the contract.

14 In fact, I can't allow his interpretation of the contract

15 inform my decision because that's having him do my job.

16 As the Court, I am supposed to, as a matter of law on this

17 motion for summary judgment determine -- it's you're

18 burden to show me that, as a matter of law. You're

19 entitled to be out of this case and I am not understanding

20 how Mr. testimony that if a guard left his post

21 he would be reprimanded, written up or whatever.

22 The answers to my question, which is simply --

23 don't they have -- I mean, that area is fenced in where he

24 was shot, so it's not a public sidewalk. He was shot in a

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1 THE COURT: Did you want to go off the record and

2 answer it?

3 MR. MATES: So during opening hours and, Your

4 Honor, is correct. During opening hours -- remember the

5 security guards have to be there from either 4:00 in the

6 morning until 1:00 in the evening except for special

7 events and things like that because things may be

8 happening. But generally speaking, it's four to one.

9 When it's opening time, they do have to do an inspection

10 to see if there are any -- and they are supposed to

11 contractually, by their post orders, walk around the

12 entire facility. That's the actual building itself, to

13 make sure there are no vagrants there, pick up garbage,

14 things like that and open because there is an iron gate

15 that comes down when it's closed.

16 They open up the gate and they do have some

17 responsibilities beyond the actual opening and the same

18 thing with closing. At closing time, they make sure that

19 no one is around. They get rid of all the vagrants and

20 all of that and they do walk around in the grassy areas

21 and things like that. But during the time when this man

22 was shot, that is not his responsibility. Their

23 responsibility is to be within that building. Now, the

24 county could have asked us and contracted for us to patrol

25 the entire area. They could have done that, but they

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1 didn't do that.

2 And the case law is very clear. Their duty is

3 contractual. So if the contract says they're only

4 supposed to patrol -- let's say this is the entire area of

5 Dade County, but the security guard is only supposed to be

6 patrolling right here and never move from right here and

7 something happened way over there, there is no breach of

8 any duty because they're only supposed to be over there by

9 the contract. They can't violate the contract.

10 THE COURT: They would say in that hypothetical

11 there would be no beach of the duty because there is no

12 duty.

13 MR. MATES: There is no duty.

14 THE COURT: I understand. Okay. What else do

15 you want to tell me?

16 MR. MATES: That's it, Judge.

17 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

18 MR. JAVIER: Ramon Javier on behalf of Miami-Dade

19 County.

20 THE COURT: Good afternoon.

21 MR. CIAMPA: Your Honor, may I respond. I think

22 it would be easier.

23 THE COURT: Are you okay with that? He can

24 respond to 50 States and --

25 MR. JAVIER: I'm okay.

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1 area where there's is a gap in the fence by the building

2 where he was first approached -- nowhere have they found

3 anything that supplements to show that that area was not

4 Metrorail station property.

5 The only thing they did was submit the case that

6 Mr. Mates keeps talking about, except that case is

7 completely distinguishable because in that case in taking

8 in the light most favorable to the plaintiff is that the

9 shooting occurred shortly after they exited the station

10 property, meaning they were not on the property anymore.

11 The assailant shot plaintiff and stole his bicycle

12 approximately 100 yards from the security guard.

13 This was outside 50 States patrol area and the

14 security guard couldn't see the bus pay area where the

15 shooting occurred and that is not part of unincorporated

16 Dade County. And the whole argument was -- and it even

17 stated in the introduction there that, "Plaintiff seeks

18 damages for injuries he sustained as a result of being

19 shot by unidentified assailants while waiting for a Miami-

20 Dade bus in the bus space area located outside and

21 approximately 100 yards north of the entrance to the

22 Metrorail station."

23 In that case, all of the facts were that

24 everything took place outside of the Metrorail property

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1 case we are stating that it took place inside. Your Honor

2 wanted to know and kept asking Mr. Mates here, "What is

3 there that says that this area that I just saw and point

4 out where he was approached and shot in that grassy area

5 was not part of the Metrorail station?"

6 The reason why the question could not be answered

7 by him simply is to show you is -- because it is part of

8 the Metrorail station. If we go to the deposition that

9 Mr. Mate's was referring to of their person in charge of

10 security, et cetera, Chief of Safety and Security for

11 Miami-Dade County, Mr. or and we go to

12 page 49 of his deposition he was asked -- I would like you

13 to look at the first page. I think it's called

14 Brownsville Station at the top. That's the survey for

15 this particular property.

16 "Are you aware of the fact that the document

17 shows under crack A, the entire area of the Brownsville

18 Station, the Miami-Dade Transit Authority's property for

19 the Brownsville Station according to the site survey that

20 was provided to us by Miami-Dade County," -- and that has

21 been provided here, Your Honor.

22 THE COURT: Can you tell me again that exhibit?

23 Can you identify that for me by number?

24 MR. CIAMPA: I can try, Exhibit 1.

25 THE COURT: Okay. This is the plaque you're

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1 referring to, Brownsville Station?

2 MR. CIAMPA: Yes. Question, "Does that encompass

3 just the building or does that encompass the entire area

4 including the grassy area, the bus way and the building?"

5 THE COURT: Where are you reading from, sir?

6 MR. CIAMPA: From Mr. deposition, page

7 50. So he was asked whether that area that's the

8 Brownsville Station includes the grass area, the bus way,

9 the building. The witness, the answer is on line 19

10 Mr. says, "It includes the entire area."

11 Question, "And that's Miami-Dade Transit

12 Authority's property for the Brownsville Station,

13 correct?"

14 Answer, "Yes." Then we go to page 55 same

15 deposition.

16 When he was asked at the top about the area and

17 being shown here between the plaza and 27th Avenue, "Is

18 that not grassy area, the Brownsville Station?"

19 Answer, "Yes."

20 Question, "And the property line would be

21 indicating on this diagram of documents that the grassy

22 area would be well within the Brownsville Station,

23 correct?"

24 Answer, "Yes."

25 That's it. That's the end of it. It answers the

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1 THE COURT: Okay. Before I hear from you,

2 Mr. Javier -- Mr. Mates, did you want to briefly rebut?

3 MR. MATES: Yes, Judge. Mr. Ciampa has made a

4 very strong argument saying the shooting occurred on

5 Miami-Dade County property. I don't dispute that. That's

6 not the issue, Judge. The issue -- again, the law is very

7 clear. The only duty we have is a contractual duty. You

8 look at the contracts. You look at the post orders. You

9 look at the entire contracts and he didn't mention one

10 thing about the contracts because he knows that's a

11 problem for them. Our duty is to be inside the station,

12 inside the station, not inside of Dade County property,

13 inside the station during the time of the shooting and

14 that's exactly where we were.

15 I am not disputing it may be Dade County

16 property. I will for the purposes of summary judgment, I

17 can see that the shooting occurred on Dade County

18 property. That's not the issue, Judge. The issue is what

19 duty did we owe Mr. who was not a patron, who is

20 not an employee of Dade County and it's not property of

21 Dade County, never bought a ticket. As far as we know, he

22 was never intending to buy a ticket. Even if he was

23 intending on buying the ticket, he never did buy a ticket.

24 We had to be in an area where we were and that's exactly

25 where we were. Under the case law, we did not owe him a

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2 THE COURT: One question, Mr. Mates.

3 MR. MATES: Sure.

4 THE COURT: 50 States as a contract with the

5 county to provide security to the Brownsville Station,

6 correct?

7 MR. MATES: To the patrons of the Brownsville

8 Station, yes, Judge.

9 THE COURT: I don't need a surrebuttal. Thank

10 you. Mr. Javier, your turn, sir.

11 MR. JAVIER: For purposes of the record, on page

12 96 of Mr. deposition, line 11 through 21, he

13 talks about -- he says that the physical building --

14 THE COURT: Page 96, line 11 through 21, will you

15 indulge me when I get there.

16 MR. JAVIER: Sure.

17 THE COURT: Thank you. Okay, I'm there.

18 MR. JAVIER: Answer, "The physical building is

19 the station when you're in the transit industry." He goes

20 on, "The station is a physical building. The area in

21 which the transit services are provided. There is the

22 station. There is an entry and exit area and there is a

23 platform area. All the areas outside of that may be

24 Miami-Dade Transit.

25 THE COURT: Okay.

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1 MR. JAVIER: With respect to Miami-Dade County,

2 Judge, I would submit to the Court that Miami-Dade County

3 is entitled to summary judgment because the undisputed

4 facts establish that there is a discretionary function

5 here and a public duty exception that is applicable to

6 these facts.

7 THE COURT: Okay. Let's talk about that.

8 MR. JAVIER: And this is something where it was

9 presented in the case of Miami-Dade versus Miller. We had

10 cited this case before. The court, the Third DCA found

11 that the discretionary functions and the public duty

12 exception applied and I did point out to the Court that

13 case was abrogated --

14 THE COURT: I remember this whole discussion. In

15 fact, Miller has been procedurally abrogated. I have that

16 note here and you pointed it out to me. Tell me again why

17 you pointed it out to me.

18 MR. JAVIER: Well, the facts are the same. It

19 was abrogated to the extent that certiorari jurisdiction

20 would not be applied concerning the governmental immunity

21 cases. That's what it was abrogated for. The bottom line

22 is the discretionary function and public duties exceptions

23 have not been touched. That's still the law. And based

24 upon that law, Miami-Dade County is immune from suit here

25 and that's it.

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1 THE COURT: Okay. Let me pull out my highlighted

2 copy of Miller here again. I have to ask you a question.

3 You read Miller more recently by wager. I am reading from

4 headnote seven of Miller, left-hand column towards the

5 bottom, page six. "In the instant case, the county did

6 not create a special tort duty by placing Miller within a

7 zone of risk. Miller was on a public street waiting for a

8 bus. The county had no duty to post a law enforcement or

9 security enforcement at the bus stop or to employee other

10 security measures to protect citizens against law

11 violations." It seems a little factually distinguishable

12 from the facts here.

13 MR. JAVIER: They are suggesting by the facts

14 that that sidewalk where the bus stop was, was not transit

15 property. Here we have an issue of whether or not it was

16 transit property, but we have still the public duty

17 exception that says that they need to be owed a specific

18 duty. That specific duty attaching if he's a patron. To

19 become a patron, you have to pay their fare.

20 THE COURT: Are you arguing for 50 States now or

21 the county?

22 MR. JAVIER: This is how the public duty

23 exception would apply and they would be able to get --

24 with a duty specifically owed to him. That's not the case

25 because he didn't pay his fair. But then if you go to the

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1 discretionary function, they don't need to post a security

2 guard by the front entry way. They don't need to put one

3 also on the sidewalk. They don't need to put one on each

4 corner. There is a discretionary function and that's the

5 reason as to why the county is immune from suit here.

6 THE COURT: Okay. But what I'm stuck on here is

7 I'm aware of the distinctions between discretionary

8 functions and operational functions and sovereign

9 immunity. But the facts of Miller are quite different

10 from the facts in this case. So how do I say -- well, in

11 Miller a public duty exception was found. In Miller,

12 which had different facts -- whereas in this case, this

13 gentleman was shot on property owned by the county. How

14 do I ignore that?

15 MR. JAVIER: Judge, since you're having a

16 difficulty with Miller --

17 THE COURT: I'm not having a difficulty with you

18 or anybody I'm just trying to follow the law.

19 MR. JAVIER: I am just having a discourse with

20 the Court.

21 THE COURT: Absolutely. Discourse away.

22 MR. JAVIER: I think if Millers facts seem to you

23 that they're distinguishable from these facts, that's

24 perfectly okay. I think then while everybody has pointed

25 to Hato [phonetic] versus 50 States, which is that case

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1 that everybody is talking about, I think that -- at the

2 very least, it should be some persuasive case for the

3 Court because that shooting occurs basically on the side

4 on the -- on the side of this property where it's

5 basically right next to that entrance. That's where the

6 bus bays are.

7 THE COURT: Right.

8 MR. JAVIER: And there that court -- I understand

9 it was a PCA, but they said that the county they were

10 entitled to the discretionary function and the public duty

11 function, so the application of these various concepts is

12 applicable here and the county should be entitled to

13 summary judgment based upon those two -- those two

14 functions.

15 THE COURT: Okay. Anything else you want to tell

16 me?

17 MR. JAVIER: No, judge.

18 THE COURT: You want to respond?

19 MR. CIAMPA: Only if you want me to.

20 THE COURT: Absolutely. I believe in giving

21 everybody an opportunity.

22 MR. CIAMPA: I think Your Honor understands well

23 that Miller -- it says the attack upon Miller allegedly

24 occurred after he had exited the Metrorail station and

25 while he was on a public sidewalk waiting to board a bus.

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1 He was not in a Metrorail station, so those facts are in

2 inapplicable to our case. It's a different case and it's

3 not president, under any circumstances, for our case. In

4 addition, the county decided to hire security officers for

5 the station. Once they decide to hire security officers

6 of a private nature and provide them, they have to do it

7 properly and the people who are acting out as the security

8 officer, have to do their job properly.

9 But once sovereign immunity doesn't come in when

10 they decide that, they're going to undertake after feeling

11 the need to hire security. They have to then not do it

12 negligently. And whether or not they were negligent, is a

13 question for the jury. But in terms of the judgment, they

14 can't possibly, successfully, argue sovereign immunity

15 because they choose to hire 50 States and that's alleged

16 that they did.

17 THE COURT: Anything in response, Mr. Javier?

18 MR. JAVIER: No, Judge. I am going to rest on

19 the brief and I will rest on the argument and the law that

20 has been presented to you.

21 THE COURT: I am going to give you a ruling at

22 this time. With respect to 50 States and the county and,

23 you know, counsel, I don't think the law allows me to

24 grant either of your motions for summary judgment. With

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1 ruling in case you want to take me up. That's completely

2 fine.

3 I think the deposition of Mr. or

4 establishes that the property where this incident occurred

5 was part of the Metrorail station. And I don't believe

6 that the post orders or Mr. interpretation of

7 what 50 States duty can properly inform this Court in its

8 position, therefore I'm respectfully, denying your motion

9 for summary judgment on those grounds. And with regard to

10 the county motions, I am respectfully denying that one as

11 well because I find Miller to be factually distinguishable

12 and that's it. We're in recess.

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