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Brisbane Undergrounding Initiatives Paper July 2015
1 PRELIMINARY
1.1 Document About This paper is to set out the current unique but anomalous situation that exists in Brisbane
metropolitan streets regarding domestic service lines and street LV and MV reticulation being
overhead instead of underground, as in other first world cities.
There is some detail on similar cities which are undergrounding their network with a view to
improving their networks by reducing unplanned outages due to storms and vehicular collisions with
poles and discussions on systems of installation.
The relative merits/disadvantages of each system, overhead or underground will be discussed briefly
and comments and solutions offered. Pictures and links are offered before and after and comments
from consumers who have tried to initiate change in policy to no avail, even if willing to pay for the
change.
1.2 Abbreviations
HV High Voltage
MV Medium Voltage
LV Low Voltage
GOC Government Owned Corporation
SUPP (WA) State (WA) Underground Power Program
OIP Overhead Improvement Programme (Vector)
HFC Hybrid Fibre Cable
BCC Brisbane City Council
NSP Network service provider.(Energex & Ergon)
ADSL Asymmetric digital subscriber line
NEM National Electricity Market
EMF Electromotive force
NBN National Broadband Network
KPI Key Performance Indictor
AMEC
1.3 Written By
Author John Mackay
Reviewer
Date July 2015
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2 ISSUE?
2.1 What do we have? Currently in metropolitan Brisbane, energy and telco’ services are delivered to many/most domestic
dwellings via poles and wires, with the poles owned by Energex, a QLD Government Owned
Corporation. These poles and wires are extremely unsightly, are a road hazard, an exposed source of
EMF’s and require a large expenditure of public money to protect and maintain.
Brisbane suffers from summer and winter storms that affect overhead power and Telco reticulation
and outages are and have been in the past very prolonged and widespread. Current thinking is trees
cause at least 20% of the unplanned network outages.
2.2 Why are Energex persisting with the overhead reticulation? To my knowledge Energex has no intention of replacing poles and wires and indeed is actively
replacing old poles and wires with new materials. Energex would argue that it cannot afford to the
extra cost of underground but it actively spends money ($70M/p.a.) on tree services to prevent
outages and leases pole space to the telco’s who deliver to households their services. All new
subdivisions are underground but some new houses in overhead areas have overhead service lines.
This last situation very much is at odds with other like cities.
Unfortunately Energex whilst it says it operates in the NEM and is administered by Qld Treasury and
has a board, it does lack a voice of the consumers it seems, and has never been challenged on their
performance with regards to where and how they spend their money maintaining their overhead
network, other than by the regulator.
2.3 What do other cities do? In like cities to Brisbane , such as Perth or Auckland the councils and NSP , Telco’s and consumers
have jointly or separately funded and initiated an undergrounding programme that is replacing
overhead street reticulation with underground services, area by area and on a regular and ongoing
basis. In some cases the local Council has taken the opportunity to beautify streets with new street
lights and footpaths jointly with the undergrounding initiatives. It is normal practice in cities other
than Brisbane for all new houses to have underground services lines to the service poles or street
reticulation.
2.4 What can we do in the future? Opportunities exist to “dig once” to install all street services underground including gas as has been
done elsewhere. In Brisbane this later concept is not discussed to my knowledge in councils or NSP’s
or at state level and should be.
In Australia the NBN system is being rolled out and the current intention is for the NBN to “take
over” the current HFC cables installed on Energex poles to deliver a “compromised” broadband
system to all households. How much better it would be if new fibre was laid underground in streets
that delivered NBN, and telephone and free or pay TV all via buried fibre.
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Below is the current publically available thinking of Energex and others towards this issue obtained
from their web sites.
3 Energex
3.1 ENERGEX’s Community Powerline Enhancement Program (CPEP)
In past times Energex has co-operated with South East Queensland councils as part of its is part of
ENERGEX’s Community Powerline Enhancement Program (CPEP) by jointly funding the
undergrounding of existing overhead power lines. See
The program’s main focus is undergrounding or bundling existing powerlines in sensitive locations
such as major street shopping precincts, sensitive environmental and heritage areas, locations with
significant vegetation, high pedestrian or vehicular areas, and in communities abutting bays, rivers
and coastlines. In Rosewood, more than 300 m of overhead powerlines on will be replaced with
underground cables. Work was planned to commence in April 2012.
The CPEP is the first of five segments in a planned $100 million, five-year program aimed at reducing
the visual impact of existing overhead powerlines. Among the other five programs is a blackspots
program which will target electricity poles and powerlines consistently damaged during traffic
accidents.
It is unknown whether this this program continues or exists today and is not evident in their website.
3.2 Current Energex Policy on Undergrounding of LV networks The following information is from the Energex web site regarding why they chose to support
overhead reticulation.
Refer link https://www.energex.com.au/_data/assets/pdf_file/0019/31618/Form-8121-Overhead-
powerlines-and-underground-cables.pdf
“Our distribution network is comprised of both overhead power lines and underground cables.
Energex operates in the National Electricity Market, so we are obliged to develop the most cost
effective network solution within the broader context of our environmental, technical and community
responsibilities. Due to the impact severe weather can have on our overhead network, underground
cables may appear to be the better alternative. However in most cases, overhead power lines deliver
the best value for customers due to the high construction costs of underground cables.” Notes: Here
Energex admit undergrounding is the best solution
“Overall, there are more benefits to building an overhead network. However, in some cases we will
examine the significant additional cost of underground cables in relation to the benefits it could
bring.”
“Energex maintains power lines to the first point of contact on your property – that is, to the house or
building or first property pole. Trees and palms that interfere with power lines are a safety risk and
can interrupt your electricity supply. We spend more than $70 million each year to maintain a safe
clearance between trees and power lines”
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Notes:
How can you reconcile the spending of $70 million per annum just to protect your network when
you can renew and bury the network with an investment of say $20-$30M per annum over thirty
years, which maybe all that is required to place the majority of the LV and MV systems underground,
all the time reducing the spend on vegetation management?
3.3 Energex & Oversight From the state government website https://www.treasury.qld.gov.au/economy/government-
commercial-businesses/index.php
“The Queensland Government owns a number of commercial businesses in energy, water, rail and
ports. Queensland Treasury monitors the performance of all these Queensland Government-Owned
Corporations (GOCs) on behalf of the Treasurer, who is their shareholding minister. Treasury is
responsible for:
negotiating the annual performance contract and five-yearly plans for the businesses and
monitoring performance against targets throughout the year
assessing major investment proposals to ensure they fit the government’s objectives for the
community
advising responsible and shareholding Ministers of critical current and emerging issues that may
impact on government-owned businesses
administering the process for appointments to boards of government-owned businesses.
All GOCs are bound by a regulatory framework that includes the Queensland Government Owned
Corporations Act 1993, the federal Corporations Act 2001 and the Code of practice for government-
owned corporations’ financial arrangements. The code outlines approval requirements and
guidelines within which GOCs must operate in entering into financial arrangements. A number
of other guidance documents also guide how GOCs conduct business.
3.4 30 year power industry blueprint From the Energex website:
“In June, the Queensland Government released its 30-year strategy for the electricity sector, PowerQ.
The strategy is based on extensive consultation with residents and business operators, electricity
retailers and industry representatives. PowerQ includes strategies to encourage strong competition
and benefit consumers; use consumer data and feedback to create a more responsive market;
encourage a competitive and diverse market that attracts more innovation and investment; and
increase Queensland’s prosperity by ensuring our electricity market is more affordable and efficient.”
The strategy was about technology, costs and power pricing but not about appearance and safety
and customer satisfaction.
4 Performance Statistics For distribution networks, network reliability is generally measured in relation to supply disruptions,
ie, when customers experience an interruption to their electricity supply. Measures of supply
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disruptions can relate to both the number of disruptions that customer’s experience, and the length
of those disruptions. The most commonly used measures of distribution network reliability are:
System Average Interruption Duration Index (SAIDI) and
System Average Interruption Frequency Index (SAIFI).
SAIDI measures the total length of time (in minutes) that, on average, a customer would have their
electricity supply cut over a given period. Again, SAIDI is typically measured over a year and may be
calculated across the whole network, or for particular areas or types of line.
SAIFI measures the number of times on average that customers have their electricity cut in a given
period, and is typically measured over a year. SAIFI may be calculated across all of a distribution
network, or may be calculated for particular areas of the network, or particular types of electricity
lines (called ‘feeders’), such as long lines in rural areas.
These two reliability measures capture two key sources of inconvenience to electricity customers
from supply disruptions, ie, how long their electricity supply is off for as well as how often their
electricity supply is off. Customers experience less inconvenience (ie, a better level of supply
reliability), the lower each of these measures. Reliability standards applied to distribution networks
typically set minimum requirements in relation to each of these two measures.
Historically Queensland (Ergon and Energex) has performed poorly against other states even when
extraordinary events are factored out. The report cites the efforts made in Queensland on
improvements to the networks performance however but warns against the overregulatory control
affecting future performance. An incentive scheme is in effect which incentives the networks to
improve performance.
From the Brattle group 2012 report to the AEMC ,
(http://www.aemc.gov.au/Media/docs/The-Brattle-Group-paper---Australian-and-international-
approaches-to-electricity-distribution-reliability-e90c7c8f-c719-4aec-bd2d-43c669be8c2b-0.PDF)
, there are sections about reliability with statistics.
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5 Telco’s The situation regarding the telco with respect to future development and potential undergrounding
is very fluid due to the ever changing scope of the NBN roll-out and the effects on the business of
each Telco.
5.1 Telstra Telstra, an ASX listed corporation, owns the copper telephone wire system connected to most
houses. This copper network provides home phone and ADSL broadband and will currently not be
relinquished under the NBN changes, again this is fluid however. Even if all customers did not opt for
home telephones due to the wide use of mobile, the copper network would/should remain for ADSL
for those who want this service I expect. The network is not overly aged nor in no major need of
upgrading and or maintenance and Telstra would be therefore be reluctant to pay for
undergrounding without getting paid.
Telstra has some commercial agreement with Energex to use the existing poles, where there is
overhead reticulation, and the details of this arrangement are not known.
Additionally Telstra owns a hybrid fibre cable (HFC) network also on the Energex poles to deliver its
broadband services such as Big Pond and Foxtel pay TV. This HFC network is not telephony capable
at present but could be made so. Telstra’s business is changing under the NBN and further changes
may occur whereby then HFC becomes owned/operated by NBN.
5.2 Optus Optus also owns and operates HFC reticulation on the Energex poles under some unknown
commercial arrangement. It is thought that this network also will also be used by NBN to deliver
home fast broadband under the NBN banner. Optus is a listed company overseas owned and
managed by SingTel in Singapore.
The Optus HFC network is telephony capable. According to an unnamed source Optus have an
unstated policy in Brisbane of overhead delivery of the HFC to the extent that currently in a
subdivision in the West of the city there is a un undergrounding project where the rest of the
services are underground the Optus system is on the redundant poles. I do not know of why the
reticulation was placed underground in the first instance.
5.3 NBN NBN, a Federal Government owned Corporation is seemingly planning to utilise the HFC that exists
on Energex’s poles to deliver it services in existing overhead areas. This fact is not widely known and
if consumers think that the new fast broadband will be delivered by unseen underground fibres to
their homes they are very much mistaken.
5.4 Comment on Telco’s The Telco’s then will be reluctant customers to any undergrounding initiative unless is paid for.
NBN is likely to become the main player in the future being Government owned and may ultimately
own the whole street delivery infrastructure using a combination of fibre to the nodes and overhead
HFC in existing overhead areas.
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Interestingly as the world moves rapidly towards mobile broadband and is SingTel’s fastest
performing product we are converging towards retaining overhead telco wires connected to our
houses.
6 Other Cities
6.1 Perth In Perth and country environs the poles and wires are owned by Western Power, a SOE, and they
have been in the business of undergrounding their network since 1996 and last year some 86,000
households have been converted to date.
Western Power is regulated by the ERA (Economic Regulation Authority) who controls power pricing
and expenditure oversight.
When the State Government developed the underground power program in 1996, it aimed to supply
underground power to at least 50% of Perth homes by 2010, with a similar improvement program in
regional areas. This initiative came about after week lasting unplanned outages due to major storms
back in 1994. The target was achieved in January 2010 and by January 2013 more than 55% of Perth
homes were connected to underground systems.
The target was achieved by:
Converting older residential areas to underground power under the State Underground Power
Program.
Progressively introducing underground power in all new subdivisions since 1991.
Requiring new homes in overhead metro areas to have an underground connection from the
pole in the street (pole to pillar - P2P).
They claim underground power:
is safer
is more secure in severe weather conditions
removes the need for tree pruning
improves the appearance of the street
reduces personal safety hazards caused by fallen power lines, pruning near power lines and car
accidents involving power poles
The State Underground Power Program only converts the distribution system (which comes from the
substation) to underground power. Transmission lines that deliver power to the substations are
generally not placed underground due to:
the cost, which can be up to nine times that of distribution lines
the security and reliability of transmission lines, which is greater than distribution lines, negating
the need to put them underground.
Transmission lines are only placed underground if there is insufficient room to build them overhead
(e.g.: the City Centre), or if a developer covers the cost.
The SUPP Statistics boast
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52 Major Residential Projects and 33 Local Enhancement Projects have been completed in the
SUPP, costing around $365 million
Around 86,000 households have been converted to underground
This represents around 19% per cent of the overhead distribution network that existed when the
program began in 1996
The combination of all of Western Power’s underground power initiatives means that around
55% of the Perth metropolitan area is now underground
The State Government and Western Power each contribute about $5 million to the annual SUPP
budget of $20 million
The balance of the budget is met by the Councils who generally pass through their share of costs to
the householders. Private communication with the Western Power reveals the cost per household is
low $4000’s to high $5000’s.
In WA the undergrounding of power involves:
Installing new underground power cables in the road reserve – usually under verges
Installation of green connection pillars, usually in the front corner of private property to serve
that property and the immediately adjacent property wherever possible.
Installation of transformers and switchgear units to manage the distribution of power
throughout the area. These are located in parks or public open space, or where required, on side
verges of residential property.
Installing an underground connection from the connection pillar to the meter box at each
property.
Changing each property over to the new underground system once the new underground
system in the street is complete and it has been made live, and removing the old overhead cable
to the house
Installation of a new street light system designed to meet the Australian Standard for residential
street lighting.
Removal of existing wooden poles and overhead power lines in the streets (excluding
Transmission lines and poles)
Western power does not have the issue of leased space on poles to Telco’s.
I do not have any evidence of customer resident group initiated undergrounding work done in WA.
The following is a report by Domain.com
http://news.domain.com.au/domain/blogs/talking-property/would-you-pay-for-underground-
power-cables-20110614-1g19i.html
Tony Moore, a spokesman from energy supplier Western Power, says putting existing cables
underground costs between $10,500 and $11,500 per home. In south-west Western Australia, local
councils foot 50 per cent of that cost, while the power company and the state government each
cough up one-quarter.
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Western Power works on a per lot basis, but some of the lots are strata title, which means councils
can collect one, two or more rates for that "lot". By the time councils take that into account, and
sometimes inject a bit of extra funding, undergrounding existing wiring usually costs ratepayers
about $4500 per property, Moore says.
Because the maintenance costs of underground power lines over their nominal 40-year life are about
20 per cent of their initial installation cost, that split makes it equitable for Western Power to support
the project. But if Western Power had to pay for all of the undergrounding costs, the return on
investment wouldn't make sense, Moore says.
"In Perth we've been able to build a program that has encouraged people to be accepting of the fact
they've got to pay $4000 - $4500 to get underground power. But I can tell you that when they get it,
they love it. They support it in droves," Moore says.
Surveys at the end of each project show satisfaction levels in the high 80s to low 90s, which means
people often change their attitude once they see what a difference the underground wires make.
"You might have done a survey during the project to see whether they're prepared to pay for it or not
and in some cases you don't even get 50 per cent, so we can't do a project," Moore notes. "It's never
forced on people, it's always given to them as an option but if they're not prepared to pay the money
then we won't go ahead and put Western Power and government money into areas that are not
prepared to support it."
6.2 Auckland In Auckland the poles and wires are owned by Vector, A NZSX listed company. The major
shareholder however is the Auckland Energy Consumer Trust (AECT) who are Vector customers and
the originals of whom receive dividends from the company. The regulator for power pricing in NZ
Commerce Commission.
Vector began their undergrounding programme in 2001, called the Overhead Improvement
Programme (OIP) and to date has seen an investment of more than $120 M
“Vectors programme has slowed in the last two years due to the environment created by the
government ultra- fast broadband project constraining Vector's ability to develop projects and to
achieve the targeted investment for this programme. In particular the award of the UFB project has
caused Chorus to withdraw from further investment in its copper network that has removed
opportunities to coordinate with Vector which is necessary to achieve successful undergrounding
outcome."
However partnering with Local Councils has seen beneficial outcomes and awards to and of the OIP:
http://www.generalcable.co.nz/getattachment/04fadaa2-2224-434b-af4e-900b0a631e9f/Howick-
Undergrounding-Project-(pdf,-153-KB).aspx
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0511/S00404.htm
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No information is currently available on the amount of owner contribution if any in Auckland but the
programme is essentially the same as Perth but the undergrounding system used included both
above ground and totally underground pillars so no above ground projections are visible.
There is evidence of some customer resident group initiated undergrounding work done in
Auckland.
6.3 Wellington Wellington City has an extensive network of overhead electricity and telecommunications cabling in
addition to underground services. In order to prevent the intensification of overhead cabling,
Council approved District Plan changes in 2004 that prevent utility operators from installing any new
or additional overhead cabling. The Undergrounding Policy outlines the Council’s approach to
retrospective undergrounding i.e. putting existing overhead cabling underground:
SUMMARY OF THE COUNCIL’S POLICY
The Council encourages utility operators to underground their cable networks in all areas.
All new subdivisions are required to have underground cable networks
The Council will run a three-year Contestable Undergrounding Fund pilot programme from
2006/07. The Council will invite residents groups to submit proposals for funding and provide
partial subsidies to undergrounding projects that provide sufficient public benefits. The Fund will
allocate a maximum of $200,000 annually, prioritised according to the greatest level of public
benefit.
If requested, the Council will facilitate activities and communications between residents and
utility operators for resident-initiated undergrounding projects. Interested residents will be
provided with a set of guidelines to assist them with the planning process. Residents that meet
the criteria outlined in the guidelines will receive assistance from the Council with discussions
with utility operators, co-ordination of activities and imposing targeted rates in place of upfront
payments (if necessary). The Council and utility operators will have the option to contribute
additional funding if the proposed project corresponds to any planned work such as footpath
renewals for the Council or cable network replacement for utility operators
Ratepayers can pay the costs of the Council facilitated undergrounding projects in two ways:
o if 75% of ratepayers agree to fund project (minimum of 8 properties), the Council will
pay the entire up-front costs of project and charge all affected ratepayers a uniform
targeted rate (plus interest) over an agreed time period not exceeding 5 years.
Ratepayers can also pay costs up front.
o if the 75% target is not achieved, ratepayers in agreement can pay project costs through
upfront payment (payment will be in equal quantities or some other allocation
arrangement they may agree amongst themselves).
The Council will consider attaching an undergrounding component to other Council
infrastructure projects on main roads and other high-profile areas such as parks on a case-by-
case basis.
The Council will work with utility operators to establish reasonable conditions of appearance for
overhead cable networks. The Council will also continue discussions with utility operators on the
prospects of cost-sharing with undergrounding projects.
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The Undergrounding Policy applies to the overhead electrical cable networks with capacity of
11,000 volts or less and to all overhead telecommunications cable networks. The Policy does not
apply to Transpower’s high voltage transmission cable network that makeup the National Grid or
to Vector’s high voltage sub transmission cable network, which have a capacity of 33,000 volts
and up.
The Council recognises that the ultimate decision on undergrounding existing overhead cables
lies with the utility operators that own the cable network and not with Council or residents
It seems Wellington Council have their policy in place and allow customer initiatives for
undergrounding outside their homes.
7 Customer Initiatives Some customers in Brisbane areas are interested in undergrounding their streets for asthetic
reasons and have approached Energex to offer a fully funded street undergrounding initiatives.
Unfortunately whilst Energex is not adverse to customer initiatives they apparently currently require
all 100% residences to be in accord and willing to fund and install their service mains via the new
network.
Wellington City Council has in the past invited residents groups to submit street undergrounding
proposals for funding and had provided partial subsidies to undergrounding projects that provide
sufficient public benefits.
It is common elsewhere for the authority to have as little as 75% of customers in accord elsewhere.
Those that do not want change can retain a service pole on their properties up to which their
overhead service mains can be installed. The street goes underground and those that are in accord
each pay for their own service main to be placed underground to a new point of entry box on their
barge board with a conduit carrying the service main down to the ground. This work is generally
done by the street undergrounding contractor.
8 Underground LV Power Systems
8.1 TUDS A system exists from a NZ supplier (See Author for details and pricing) whereby all the connections,
service fuses and links and neutral can be made in a pit which has no above ground connections. I
understand that Energex may be trialling this system in Brisbane but it is used by several NSP’s in NZ
already for some years without issues. A LV mains sector type aluminium cable is laid underground
along the street and breach joints are made to this cable without cutting it using clamping
techniques and resined water barriers. Tails are brought up the pillar where the service fuses are
located.
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9 Technical Considerations Like most NSP’s Energex’s network is aged and in need of major spending to allow it to be efficient in
the future. They are constrained by the regulator however on where and what they can spend. They
have, since the power crisis on the 80’s, improved the back bones of the network, with work done
on all their zone substations etc., but their urban network at the ≤11000 volt level is essentially the
same as it was previously, with only essential maintenance being done on pole and cross arm
replacement.
The Energex maximum demand has increased in Brisbane but it has shifted to the evening from the
daytime air-conditioning peak due to the reach of rooftop solar generation. At cooler night time
temperatures they can run there overhead network “harder” than during the hot days and this
somewhat obviates the need for conductor upgrading due to the increased loads.
If an undergrounding programme was initiated Energex would need to replace the transformers on
poles and switches/reclosers with new ones installed on Berms and of a different design. The poles
and wires themselves have little scrap value now unless recovered for some less fortunate nation.
Therefore whilst an underground initiative would give Energex a new network, which is perhaps the
only way they can achieve it at 11000 volt level and below, they will immediately howl down the
initiative based on maintenance, cost and operative issues. These arguments can all be engineered
satisfactorily and the benefits far outweigh the “do nothing” option.
If the upper limit the voltage to which undergrounding applies is 11000volts and below, because of
the technical issues of changes to the network, this limits the streets and circuits that can be
undergrounded. Long or Medium length transmission cables introduce high charging currents which
limit power transfer and thus exclude their inclusion in the programme unless driven by main roads
or some other such reason.
Energex may require that LV circuits be duplicated or looped to provide for rapid transfer and thus
reduced outage times in event of faulted cable. NSP’s protect their KPI’s vigorously. This increases
cost of the installation significantly however. Vector nor Western Power does not duplicate circuits
to my knowledge.
Other NSP’s have recognised that when undergrounding projects are carried out there is the
opportunity to make the network “smarter”. A Smart Grid is an electricity network that can
intelligently integrate the actions of all users connected to it – generators, consumers and those that
do both – in order to efficiently deliver sustainable, economic and secure electricity supplies.
See the link to the Horizon Power Pilbara Project for smart grid initiatives:
http://ece.curtin.edu.au/local/docs/updated.pdf
Energex say flooding is an issue with underground conduits but this occurs everywhere and new
technologies make the reticulation waterproof.
New street lighting driven by customer/Council demand for upgrades to standard would be installed
which will improve safety and security in streets
In Auckland spare ducts are pulled in in some locations to allow for future street MV cable upgrades.
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10 Opportunity The stakeholders involved in any future undergrounding initiating project in Brisbane to be
considered would be:
Brisbane City Council
Energex & Treasury
Telstra
Urban Utilities
Optus
NBN
Home Owners
Contractors
Engineers
Main Roads authorities
Gas suppliers
Media
The above list is significant and daunting when you consider most of the shareholders are
considering the overhead lines a “non-issue” and want to do nothing to resolve it.
So unless there is political pressure as there was in the brown outs in the 80’s then the NSP’s are
doing as little as possible and the Telco’s are handwringing about their future respective business
profits.
So is it not a good time to make some initiatives? I believe it is. I think customers do not consider the
overhead network unless the power is off, a car hits a pole in their street or they get in the way of a
good view, which Brisbane has many.
So the public must be made aware of the need to begin a programme and the benefits. We do this
by:
A web site and name of agent for fees who can achieve the outcomes and detail the potential
benefits( Myself)
Blogs, public forums about why Brisbane is behind the others
Industry publications & forums
Disclosing what the issues are to media
Lobbying in State Gov and Councils
Meet with the NSP,s and Telco’s
Select some typical local streets and do a engineering plan and budget
Contact other NSP’s for more details
Citing without disclosure of personalities local residents who want change and can pay for it
Advertising for interested parties
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11 Photos
This is a picture of a Telco pit and TUDS pit, nothing above ground
Before
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After