1 thursday oct 27 th “the scriptures teach that one is saved before and without water baptism.”...

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Thursday Oct 27th

“The Scriptures teach that one is saved before

and without water baptism.”

Affirm: Roger HollandDeny: Douglas W. Hill

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Affirm: Roger Holland

“Was not Abraham our fatherjustified by works, when he hadoffered Isaac his son upon the

altar?” (James 2:21)

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Affirm: Roger Holland

“But wilt thou know, O vain man,that faith without works is dead?”

(James 2:20).

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Friday Oct 28th

“The Scriptures teach that baptism, to the penitent

believer, is for the remission of sins.”

Affirm: Douglas W. Hill Deny: Roger Holland

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March 2006

“The Scriptures teach that a child of God, one saved by the blood of Christ,

may so sin as to be eternally lost in hell.” Affirm: Douglas W. Hill

Deny: “The Scriptures teach that a child of God, one saved by the blood of Christ, CAN NOT so sin as to be eternally lost

in hell.” Affirm: Deny: Douglas W. Hill

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Of Terms In The

PropositionThe Scriptures – The 66 books of the Bible, Both Old & New Testaments (2 Tim.3:16f).Teach – To impart knowledge, to instruct.Baptism – Immersion in water & in Christ’s name (Rom. 6:3; Acts 10:47-48).Penitent Believer – One who believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God (Jn 8:24) & has repented of past sins (Acts 2:38).For – In order to obtain (Mt. 26:28; Acts 2:38).Remission of Sins – The forgiveness of past (alien) sins (2 Pet. 1:9).

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God (1 Tim. 2:3).

Christ (2 Tim. 1:10).

WHO SAVES

Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5).

We BOTH Agree On WHO Saves!

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Grace (Eph. 2:8-9).Mercy (Titus 3:5).

WHAT SAVES

Blood (Matt. 26:28; Rom. 5:8-9).Love (John 3:16).

Faith (Eph. 2:8-9).

We BOTH Agree On WHAT Saves!

Word of God (Js.1:21; Rom.1:16).

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Water (1 Pet. 3:21). Meritorious Works / Works of Men (Titus 3:5; Rom. 3:23; Is. 64:6).

That These Do NOT Save

Works of Law of Moses (Rom. 2:17; 3:19-20;

Gal. 2:14ff). Works of Satan / Flesh (Gal. 5:19ff).

We BOTH Agree On This!

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Baptism alone will save.

Water baptism is a CONDITION for salvation like:

Dipping was a condition for Naaman’s cleansing (2 Kings 5).

The power is in the water.The blood is in the water.

Looking at the brass serpent was a condition for the healing (Num. 21).

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At The Point Of Faith (Jas. 2:14-24)?

WHEN SAVED?

At The Point Of OBEDIENT Faith: Baptism (Rom. 6:3f, 16-18)?

We DISAGREE On WHEN One Becomes

Saved! Opponent Takes SOME passages; What about the rest (Acts 20:26-27)?

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Is baptism necessary for salvation or not? Is it required by God?Do we reach the blood of Christ

“before and without” baptism?

WHEN SAVED?

We DISAGREE On WHEN One Becomes Saved!

Can we enjoy pardon & blessings “in Christ” before we “put on

Christ”?

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2. Who IS saved in Mark 16:16?___________________

1. Name one Scripture that places New Testament salvation before water “baptism”. __________________

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3. When does one “put on Christ” (i.e. enter Christ, contact His

blood)?

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4. What kind of faith saves? A living? A dead faith?

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Law of Moses (Gal.2:16; Rom.3; 11:6). The Devil (1 John 3:8). The Flesh (Gal. 5:19).

5. Is baptism “in the name of Christ” a work of:

Men (Titus 3:5; Eph. 2:9). Darkness (Eph. 5:11).

God (Mt. 21:25, Lk. 7:30; Jn. 3:26-27; Jn 6:29; Col. 2:11-13).Will Opponent Tell Us?

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Law of Moses (Gal. 2:16).


IF NOT, then opponent’s texts do not apply (Rom. 3, 4, 11, Gal. 2:16)!

IF SO, then it takes a work of the Law of Moses to be a member of the Baptist Church!

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IF NOT, then opponent’s texts do not apply (1Jn 3:8; Gal.5:19; Eph.5:11)!

IF SO, then it takes a work of the Devil / flesh / darkness to be a member of the Baptist Church!

The Devil, The Flesh or Darkness.

IF SO, then Christ taught a work of the Devil (John 4:1ff; Mk. 16:16)!

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IF NOT, then opponent’s texts do not apply (Titus 3:5; Eph. 2:9)!

IF SO, then it takes a work of the men to be a member of the Baptist Church!

Men.

IF SO, then Christ taught a work of men (John 4:1ff; Mk. 16:16)!

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IF NOT, then it takes an ungodly work to be a member of the Baptist Church & make known one is saved!

IF SO, then why do you reject it!

God.

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Defined

[Pistuo] Strong’s #4100 – “used especially of the faith by which a man embraces Jesus, i.e. conviction, full of joyful trust, that Jesus is the Messiah – the divinely appointed author of eternal salvation in the kingdom of God, conjoined with obedience to Christ…” (Thayer p. 511).

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Defined

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16 explained by v. 14-15!

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Defined

John 3:16 explained by v. 14-15!“8 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Make

thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a standard: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he seeth it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and set it upon the standard: and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he looked unto the serpent of brass, he lived.

(Num. 21:4-9)

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James 2:14-26v. 14 “…can that faith save him?”v. 17 “faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.”v. 20 “faith apart from works is barren”v. 21 “Was not Abraham our father justified by works, in that he offered up Isaac…” (Work of Devil? Men? Law? Faith?)

v. 22 “faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect”

Defined

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v. 23 “and the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness…” v. 24 “Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith.”v. 26 “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead.”

James 2:14-26

Defined

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Felix believed (Acts 24:25).

Many Jews believed (Jn. 8:31,39-40).

Many rulers believed (Jn 12:42).

Demons believe (Jas. 2:19)!

Agrippa believed (Acts 26:27-29).

These Believe! Were They Saved? Are ALL Believers

Saved?

If Not, Why Not?

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Many Jews believed (Jn. 8:31,38-41).31 “Then said Jesus to those Jews which

believed on him…”38 “… and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.”39 “They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father.

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OBEDIENT Faith Saves!1. Baptized Called “Believers” (Acts 2:41)(Acts 2:44)2. Baptized “Having believed” (Acts 16:33)

(Acts 16:34)3. Told to “believe Were baptized on Him”

in His name (Acts 19:4)(Acts 19:5)Saved Believers = Baptized

Believers

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Mark it down! See for yourself!1. Give one passage that puts salvation before “baptism”.2. Give one passage that says saved

“before and without” baptism.3. Give one passage that says baptism into Christ is a work of man, a work of Satan or a work of the Old Law!4. Escape making “faith only” arguments!5. Avoid contradicting the plain word of Jesus & the apostles!

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A. “He that believeth and IS baptized shall be saved”?B. “He that believeth and is NOT

baptized shall be saved”?

A. “Baptism doeth also NOW save you”?B. “Baptism doeth also NOT save you”?

MARK 16:16

1 PETER 3:21

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A. “Repent and be baptized… for the remission of sins…”?

Acts 2:38

A. “Arise, be baptized and WASH AWAY THY SINS…”?B. “Arise, be baptized for thy sins are ALREADY washed away…”?

Acts 22:16

B. “Repent, but baptism is NOT for the remission of sins…”?

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“A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take

away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk

in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.” (Ezk. 36:26-27).Those who were WILLING to

OBEY! (Ezk. 11:18-21)v. 18 They will come & remove the

idols.v. 19 God will give them a new heart.v. 21 “But” those “whose heart

walketh after their detestable things…”

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4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. 5 ¶ So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. 6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.

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7 …and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king … 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. 9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

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Salvation (Mk. 16:16).

Contact His Death/Blood (Rom. 6:3).

Rem. Of Sins (Acts 2:38). Gift of H. Spirit (Acts 2:38).

Freedom from Sin (Rom. 6:16-18).

New Life (Rom. 6:3-4). Putting on Christ (Rom. 6:4; Gal. 3:26f). Being a child of God (Gal. 3:26-27).

Enter the Kingdom (John 3:3, 5).

BAPTISM and…

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When sins washed away (Acts 22:16). Good conscience (1 Pet. 3:21).

BAPTISM and…

Name of the Lord (Ax 10:43,48; 2:21,38).

Words whereby saved (Ax 11:14; 10:48).

Putting off the body of sins (Col. 2:11f). The one body (1 Cor. 12:13). Sanctification & cleansing (Eph. 5:26). Regeneration & Renewing (Ti. 3:5). Access (Heb. 10:22).

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“…preach the gospel to ever creature… He that believeth and is

baptized shall be saved; …” (Mk. 16:16).

THE GREAT COMMISSION“…Go, make disciples of all nations, baptizing them into the name of the

Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit…” (Mt. 28:19).

“…and that repentance and remission of sins should be

preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.” (Lk. 24:47)

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“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.”

Already Shall Be Saved Saved

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“He that believes and sticks out his hand shall receive $20; He that believes not shall be poor.“He that eats and digests shall live; He that eats not shall die.“He that believes and is baptized shall receive $1 million; he that believes not shall be poor.”“He that believes and attends shall be fed, He that believes not shall be hungry.”

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“He that believes and washes shall see; He that believes not shall not see.” (John 9:7)

“He that believes and marches shall receive the city; He that believes not shall not take it. (Josh. 6: Heb. 11:30)“He that believes and looks shall live; He that believes not shall die.”

(Num.21:4-9)

“He that believes and washes shall be clean, He that believes not shall remain a leper.” (2 Kings 5:10)

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“He that heareth my words, and believeth on him that sent me,

hath everlasting life…” (John 5:24).“…to Him shall you hearken… every soul that shall not hearken to the prophet shall be utterly destroyed…” (Acts 3:22-23).

Does this make belief unnecessary? Is one saved at the POINT of hearing?

NO! (Acts 20:28)

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To Reject John’s BaptismWas To Reject God’s Counsel!

“The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with

themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not

then believe him?” (Matt. 21:25)

“But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not

baptized of him.” (Luke 7:30)

Necessary Conclusion

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To Reject Christ’s BaptismIs To Reject God’s Counsel!

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him. 27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. (John 3:26-27)

Necessary Conclusion

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POSITIVE & NEGATIVEActs 16:31 BELIEVE Do weActs 17:30 REPENT need aMk. 16:16 BAPTISM negative?To SUBTRACT from God’s word is a SIN! (Deut. 4:2; Ezk. 3:10; Rev.

22:18-19)

The Force Of A Positive Command

When God gives a POSITIVE command will my opponent

accept it?

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Here is your negative statement about baptism!

“Ye believe… shall die” (John 8:24). “Ye repent… shall perish” (Luke 13:3). “Ye be born again… not enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:3, 5).

I wonder if my opponentwill accept it?

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“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved…” (Mark 16:16).

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (John 12:48)

“He that believeth and is saved shall be baptized” (Opponent).

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“He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; He that believes not shall be damned.” (Mark 16:16)1. Opponent seeks to destroy

faith in Mark 16:16 (2 Tim. 3:16-

17; 1 Pet. 1:22-25)!2. Name one point in Mark 16:9-20 that is not confirmed by unquestioned texts elsewhere!3. If the best you can do is question the inspiration of Scriptures… YOU LOSE YOUR WHOLE PROPOSITION!

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1. Mocked Jesus (Mt. 27:44). 2. Believed & Repented (Nec. Implied) (Lk. 23:40-41). 3. Asked for forgiveness (Lk. 23:42). (i.e. acted in faith!)

4. Pardoned while Jesus was alive (v.43). 5. Then Jesus died (Lk. 23:46; Heb. 9:17)! 6. Thieves died after Jesus did (Jn.19:32f).

(See also Mt. 3:5-6; Jn. 4:1-3)

Luke 23

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THE PALSIED MAN“Thy sins are forgiven thee” (Mk. 2:5)

BEFORE AFTER

THE SINFUL WOMAN

“Thy sins are forgiven”(Lk. 8:48)THE PUBLICAN

“This man went down to his house justified”

(Lk. 18:14)THE THIEF“Today shalt thou be with me in paradise”

(Lk. 23:43).

DEATH OF THE TESTATOR

“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved”

(Mk. 16:16)

“Repent, and be baptized …for the remission of sins”

(Acts 2:38).“be baptized, and wash away thy sins”

(Acts 22:16).

“baptism also doth now save you” (1 Pet.

3:21) MARK 2:10 MATT. 26:28

Heb

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1. John the baptist (Mt. 11:11; Lk. 7:28). 3. Samaritan Leper (Lk. 17:11-19).

Even so, while Jesus was alive He could forgive on ANY TERMS (Mk.

2:10)!

2. Woman at Jesus’ feet (Lk. 7:38, 41-50). 4. Blind Bartimaeus (Lk.18:35-43; Mk.10:46ff). 6. Women w/ issue of blood (Mk.5:25-27,34).

5. Zacchaeus (Lk. 19:1-9).

7. Man sick of palsy (Mt.9:1ff; Mk.2:1-12, 10).In Every Case Their Faith Was ACTIVE!

After His death, His Will is in effect (Heb.9:17)!

8. Etc!

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Even if opponent

proves these weresaved

without baptism,

BEFORE AFTER

DEATH OF THE TESTATOR

Heb

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:16

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He must still prove that

sinners today are saved under the

New Testament

without baptism!

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Work for food unto eternal life, come & eat (6:27, 35, 45, 47).

WHAT BELIEVER HAS ETERNAL LIFE?Believer has “power to become” son

(1:12).Believer must “look” (3:14-16).Believer must be born of water & Spirit, do truth, obey Son (3:5, 21, 36).Know, ask, then drink living water (4:10, 14).Must hear, do good, will to come & come, receive (5:24, 29, 40, 43).

Will to do, know, come, drink (7:17, 37).

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Sheep follow & know His voice, enter in to be saved (10:4, 9).

WHAT BELIEVER HAS ETERNAL LIFE?Follow, walk in light, continue, know,

keep (8:12, 31, 32, 51).Man told to “Go & wash”, he went &

washed and came seeing (9:7).

Live and believe in Christ (11:26).

God hears those who worship Him & do His will (9:31).

Serve, follow, keep & receive commandments (12:26, 47-50).

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“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the

sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”THUS, at the point of faith

NOT YET a son!“Nevertheless among the chief rulers

also many believed on him; BUT because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put

out of the synagogue:For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.” (John 12:42-

43)

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“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by

Jesus Christ.”

God Calls Baptism “Grace & Truth”!

Baptism into Christ for the remission of sins is not revealed

in the Old Law.Therefore, baptism is “grace and truth”! (Eph. 2:8; John 8:32)

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BAPTISM = Word = GRACE (Acts 10:47-48; 11:14; 20:32).

God INCLUDES Baptism As “Grace”! BAPTISM = Preach Jesus = GRACE

(Acts 8:35, 36; 11:20, 23).

BAPTISM = The Gospel = GRACE (Acts 22:10, 16; 20:24; Ro.6:3ff,

1:16; 3:24).WASHING (Baptism) = Teaching = GRACE (Titus 3:5, 2:11-12; Eph.

5:26; 4:4).Baptism = Grace (1 Pet. 3:21; 5:12).Baptized Into = In Christ = Grace

(Rom. 6:3; Gal. 3:27; 2 Tim. 2:1).

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3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? (Who thought of physical birth?) 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

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6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.A spiritual change – not visible

physically,you can only see its effects.

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9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher of Israel, and knowest not these things?Nicodemus didn’t understandthe nature of a SPIRITUAL birth!

Does my opponent?

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“The consensus of all scholars, in all ages, established the fact that

baptism is the act referred to by the phrase ‘born of water’ …and it is a

Baptist doctrine” (The Tennessee Baptist, May 17, 1884).“No Baptist that we ever heard or

read of ever believed otherwise until A. Campbell frightened them away

from an interpretation that is sustained by the consensus of all

scholars of all denominations in all ages”

(The Tennessee Baptist, Oct. 30, 1886, p. 5).

Baptist Schola

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The Kingdom of God is not entered by baptism.

The Baptist Church is entered by baptism.

Therefore, the Baptist Church is not the Kingdom of God.

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“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life”

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, before and

without water baptism”

VS.

(RHV = Roger Holland Version)

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“But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up

into everlasting life.”“It is thus evident that, while the

aorist subjunctive piei in John 4:14 does not specify durative action,

neither does it in any way proscribe it. There is nothing in the language of John 4:14 to limit the drinking to a

momentary once-for-all act.”(Shank, Life in the Son, p. 78)

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36. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

37. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said …Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38. … Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins …

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“for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many unto remission of sins.”

“In order to obtain”?“because of”?

(Exact same phrase in Acts 2:38!)

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“Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto

him for righteousness.”

(Acts 2:38; Mt. 26:28)

“In order to obtain”?“because of”?

eis

Whic

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One?

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He Was Justified “By Faith”(Rom.4:3).What Kind Of Faith? OBEDIENT!

The Of Abraham

God said “go” (Gen.12:1; Rom.10:17).Abraham “went” (Gen.12:4; Heb.11:8).Then reckoned righteous (Gen.15:6).

Do You Believe The Scriptures? Do You Have This

Kind Of Faith

Initial “heart felt experience”? By faith he obeyed for ~20 years

already!

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The Of Abraham

God said “offer Isaac” (Gen. 22:2). “rose early & went” (v. 3).

WHEN Was Abraham Justified By Faith? (v.11-12; Heb. 11:17; Jas.

2:21-24)?

traveled 3 days (v. 4). built altar (v. 9).

laid Isaac on it (v. 9). took the knife (v.

10).

Abraham

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The Of Abraham

3+ Times Justified “By Faith”!

Descendants (Gen. 15:6; Ro. 4:3, 12) ~ 80

Abraham justified “by faith” - MORE THAN ONCE! -

Sarah have child (Gen.18; Ro. 4:19ff) ~ 99Offer Isaac (Gen. 22:6, 12; Jas. 2:23) ~ 115

Left home (Gen. 12:1ff; Heb. 11:8ff) ~ 60?

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MY OPPONENT’S VERSION!What Kind Of Faith? NOT Obedient!God said “go” (Gen.12:1).Abram: “God, you know I believe, so I am already there!”God said “offer Isaac” (Gen.22:2).Abram: “But God, you know I don’t need to do anything! Offering won’t save me!”

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The Of Abraham

“Law of faith” (Rom. 3:27).

“Father of all them that believe... that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; …Father to [those] who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision.” (4:12; 2 Cor.5:7).

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19 say for the remission of sins (Authorized version (KJV); Berry’s interlinear; Centenary Translation; Douay; Emphatic Diaglot; Englishman’s Greek NT; Ferrar Fenton; Geneva Bible; Haweis (1795 AD); Moffatt; H.B. Montgomery (1924); New American Standard; New King James Version; Syriac Version; Verkuyl (Burkeley Version); Wesley’s Translation; Weymouth; Darby’s Translation)

16 say for the forgiveness of your sins (Amplified NT; Authentic by Schomfield; Challomer Rheims; Jerusalem Bible; Living Bible; New Catholic Version; New English Bible; New International version; Revised Standard Version; Twentieth Century Translation; English Standard Version; Bible In Basic English; World English Bible; Luois Segond Verision 1910; SRV, SRVA)

1says for (in order to, unto) the forgiveness (First German Bible)

1 says for a release of your sins (Modern English) 1 says for the purpose of remission of your sins (Spanish

Translation) 5 say unto the remission of your sins (American Bible Union

Version; Engl. Revised; Moulton’s Modern Reader’s ; Rothermham; Warrell’s Trans.)

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1 says into the remission of youre synnes (Wycliffe - 1308)2 say into the remission of sins (Emphasized version; Italian

Translation)1 says into the forgiveness of your sins (Everlasting Gospel

by McCord)1 says to have your sins forgiven (Knox)2 say to the remission of sins (Young’s Literal Translation;

MKJV) 2 say with a view to the remission of sins (Modern Speech;

Weymouth’s N.T.)1says so that you may have your sins forgiven (Phillip’s

Modern English)1 says so that your sins may be forgiven (Simple English)1 says that your sins may be forgiven (Williams) 4 say In order to the remission of your sins (Anderson; Indian

Translation; Living Oracles; Macknight’s Translation)1 says in order to obtain the remission of sins (French

Translation) 2 say (for, unto) in order to forgiveness of sins (German

Translation; Hackett’s commentary)2 say in order to have your sins forgiven (Good News for

Modern man; Goodspeed)

FOR, INTO, UNTO, IN ORDER TO = PURPOSE

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“Suppose we force eis in Acts ii. 38 to bear the unnatural and unauthorized meaning of “on account of.” After all we have gained nothing. Other passages there are which cannot be explained away. Thus our Savior said, just before he ascended the heavens: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. We shall hardly dare to tamper with his royal word and make it run, He that believeth and is saved shall be baptized. And unless we do thus change his saying, we have by the highest authority, an importance attributed to Baptism certainly not less than that given to it in Acts ii. 38, translated according to its obvious meaning. What then is the advantage of violently torturing eis, the construction and the context?” (Willmarth, Baptism and Remission, Baptist Quarterly, July 1877, p. 306)

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“Peter said to them, ‘You must repent — and as an expression

of it, let everyone of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ — that you may have your sins forgiven; and you

will receive the gift of theHoly Spirit.”

(Charles B. Williams’ Translation, 1950 ed.)

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“We conclude that it is the best translation of the New

Testament in the English language.”

(Prof. J.R. Mantey, of the Dept. of New Testament

Interpretation, Northern Baptist Theological Seminary,

Chicago, IL.)

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Ray Summers, head of the Dept. of New Testament at the Northern

Baptist Theological Seminary wrote in reference to C.B.

Williams’ translation:

“I commend it most heartily to all who desire to know the real

message of the New Testament.”

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Commentary:“In order to the remission of sins ... we connect naturally with both the preceding verbs. This clause states the motive or object which should

induce them to repent and be baptized. It enforces the entire

exhortation, not one to the exclusion of the other.”

(H. B. Hackett, editor of Smith’s Dictionary, professor at Brown U., Providence, R.I.

Adjunct Professor of the Latin and Greek Languages)

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Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, by Joseph Henry Thayer, “into, to,

towards, for, among” p. 183.A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, by William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich, “indicating motion into a thing or

into its immediate vicinity …to denote purpose in order to, to: …eis aphesin hamartion for forgiveness

of sins, so that sins might be forgiven Matthew 26:28; cf. Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; Acts 2:38.” pp. 227-

228.Theological dictionary of the New Testament (Vol. II),

“The preposition denotes the direction of an action to a specific end… John baptizes, and Jesus sheds His blood, for the forgiveness of sins (Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; Matthew

26:28; cf. Acts 2:38).” p.429.The Expositor’s Greek Testament (Vol. 11). “eis ‘unto’ R.V., signifying the aim… As each individual… was to be baptized, so each, if truly penitent, would receive the

forgiveness of his sins.” p.91.

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What Does EIS Mean?

Passage Action ResultMt. 26:28 Blood shed for

RemissionRo. 10:10 Believe unto RighteousnessActs 11:18 Repentance unto Life

Ro. 10:9 Confess unto SalvationActs 3:19 Repent, Sins blotted converted that outActs 2:38 Repent, Remission baptized for of sins

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What Does EIS Mean?

Those who render eis in Matt. 3:11 on account of furnish a notable instance of missing an

important idea through failure to understand the force of the Greek preposition.”

(J.W. Willmarth, Baptist Scholar, 189).

“unto repentance” (KJV, ASV, MNT, NKJV)“to repentance” (DBY, MKJV) “for repentance” (RSV, WEB)“to teach repentance” (TCNT)

“to reformation” (YLT)

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“Go, return each to her mother’s house.” (Ruth 1:8)

GRAMMATICALLY SEPARATE?

“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.” (Acts

2:38)

2nd Person Plural, Imper. 3rd Person Singular, Imper.

Purpose of BOTH statements.

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“Slay ye everyone his men that were joined unto Baal” (Num.

25:5).

Second Person Plural & Third Person Singular

“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.” (Acts

2:38)

“Return ye now everyone one from his evil way” (Jer. 18:11).“Cast ye away every man the

abominations of his eyes” (Ezek. 20:7).

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THE QUESTION: “What shall we do?”

THE ANSWER: “Repent, and be baptized… for the remission of sins…” (Acts 2:38)Did Peter tell them to do

something BECAUSE OF or IN ORDER TO what they were asking?

About what? Their SINS (Ax 2:23, 37)!

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Believe + Turn = The Lord (Ax 11:21).

Something AFTER Belief & Repentance = Turning to God / Sins Removed!

Believe + Baptism = Saved (Mk. 16:16).

Repent + Turn = God (Acts 26:20). Repent + Baptism = Forgiven (Ax 2:38).

Repent + Turn = Sin Blot out (Ax 3:19).

At The Point Of Faith???

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(Ax 8:35-39) 35 And Philip… beginning from this

Scripture, preached unto him Jesus. 36 …they came unto a certain water; and the eunuch saith, Behold, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

1. Preaching Jesus includes baptism!2. Baptism is a work OF FAITH!

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(Ax 8:35-39)38 And he commanded the chariot to

stand still: and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him. 39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip; and the eunuch saw him no more, for he went on his way rejoicing. 1. AFTER Baptism, WHEN came up out of the water… REJOICING! 2. Why did Philip teach baptism (Acts 2:38)? Why did the Eunuch rejoice AFTER baptism?

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Then Jesus Didn’t Know! Will be told what “must do”

(Act 9:6)!Paul Didn’t Know It For 3 Days(Ax 9:9)!Ananias was wrong: “Arise be

baptized, and wash away thy sins…” (Acts 22:16)!If This is WRONG, then why did the Holy Spirit record this for

us?

When He Said “Lord”?But Paul didn’t know WHO

(Act 26:15)!

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Rejected & murdered the Lord (Acts 2:29, 22f)!Denied the Righteous One (Acts 3:17, 14-15)!

Resisted the Holy Spirit (Acts 7:2, 51-53)!Sought to kill Paul (Acts 22:1; 21:31)!Paul sorrowed for them (Rom. 9:1-3)!

Jewish Brethren, Israelites according to the flesh (Acts 13:26); NOT Christian brethren of

the Spirit (Ga. 3:26-26)!

Unbaptized Saul = Unsaved Saul (Acts 9:17; 22:13, 16)!

(Acts 9, 22)

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“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them that heard…” (Act 10:44).

Peter explains it “in order” (11:4). “Words whereby saved” (Ax

11:14)“And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them…”(11:15).

“He commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus

Christ.” (10:48)

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“…That through his name every one

that believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”


“…That through his name every one

that believeth in him shall receive remission of sins before and

without water baptism.”

VS.

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While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them that heard the word. (Acts 10:44)

H.S. = SAVED?

…And he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even

from his mother's womb.

(Luke 1:15)

IF SPIRIT = SAVED BEFORE BAPTISM THEN SPIRIT = SAVED BEFORE FAITH!

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(Ax 16:23-34)v. 25 Paul & Silas praying & singing

and “the prisoners were listening”v. 26-27 earthquake & “the jailor being roused out of sleep… drew his sword and was about to kill himself”v. 30 “What must I do to be saved?”v. 31 “Believe on the Lord Jesus…”

v. 33 “Washed their stripes” (repentance) & was baptized “immediately”

v. 32 “Then they spake the word of the Lord unto him”

v. 34 “rejoiced greatly… having believed”

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THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD

“Again it is written…” (Mt.4:4).

“The whole council of God” (Acts 20:28).“All scriptures are inspired…” (2 Tim.

3:16-17).

“The sum of Thy word is truth…” (Ps.119:160).

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye

diminish ought from it...” (Deut. 4:2; 12:32).

“…if any man shall add unto them… if any man shall take away from the

words of the book…” (Rev. 22:18-19)

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Baptism is WHEN sins are washed away!

But WHAT washes them away (1 Pet. 3:21)?“Jesus Christ… washed us from our sins in his own blood…” (Rev. 1:5)!

Baptism is HOW we call on His name (Lk. 6:46; Mt. 7:21; Col. 3:17; Eph. 1:21)!

“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name.”

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1. Arise 2. Be Baptized

3. Wash Away Thy Sins 4. Calling On The Name

1. Call On The Name 2. Wash Away Thy

Sins 3. Be Baptized 4. Arise

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31 Paul said to the centurion and to the soldiers, Except these abide in the ship, ye cannot be saved.

24 Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee. 25 Wherefore, sirs, be of good cheer: for I believe God, that it shall be even as it was told me.

Conditional Salvation! Not Merited!

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“I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:

for it is the power of God unto salvation

to every one that believeth…” (v.16)

1. But must OBEY the Gospel (Rom.1:5;16:26)!

“For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by

faith.” (v.17)

2. God’s righteousness must be SUBMITTED TO (Rom. 10:3)!

3. Thus, saving faith is OBEDIENT faith!

OBEDIENT FAITH!

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20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

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25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

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30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

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“Righteousness of God” justifies (Rom. 3:20-24)

“Through faith in His blood” (Rom. 3:25)

He that fears God & works righteousness is approved (Acts

10:34)Baptism is “through faith in the working of God” (Col. 2:12)

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“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through

our Lord Jesus Christ:”


VS.

“Therefore being justified by faith, before and without water baptism, we have peace with God through

our Lord Jesus Christ:”

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12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

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16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

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3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

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If Opponent Says Romans 6:3; Gal. 3:26-27; Mark 16:16 Refer To Spirit

Baptism; Then…

That’s 2 Baptisms (water & Spirit);

BUT “there is one baptism”(Eph. 4:4; 5:26; 1 Pet. 3:21).

That makes Spirit Baptismnecessary for salvation!

That DENIES your proposition!

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16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

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(Rom. 6:3-4, 9; Col. 2:11-13)Jesus Died

We Are Raised To Walk In

Newness Of Life

We Are Dead In

Sin

Was Buried

“We Are Buried With Him By

Baptism”

Jesus Was Raised “From The

Dead”

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BIBLE TEACHING (Rom. 6:3-4, 9; Col. 2:11-13)

BAPTIST TEACHING

NEW LIFEDEAD

NEW LIFEYOU BURY

THE LIVING!Spiritual Murder!

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FAITHFAITH

REPENTANCREPENTANCEECONFESSIOCONFESSIONNBAPTISMBAPTISM

CCHHAANNGGEESS

HEART HEART (Ro.10:9)(Ro.10:9)

LIFESTYLELIFESTYLE (Ro. 2:4-5) (Ro. 2:4-5)

ALLEGIANCE ALLEGIANCE (Ro.10:9)(Ro.10:9)

RELATIONSHIP RELATIONSHIP (Ro. 6:3ff, 17-(Ro. 6:3ff, 17-

18)18)

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Does This Mean It Is Unconditional?

FREE GIFT

If so, then ALL are saved:Jesus gave himself ‘for the life

of the world” (John 3:16, 6:51).

Jesus “tasted death for every man” (Heb. 2:9).

“He is the propitiation for our sin; and not our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

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If my opponent admitsfaith is a condition

FREE GIFT

THEN conditions do NOTnegate a “free gift” of grace!

A FREE GIFT MUST STILL BE RECEIVED!Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and

said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to

you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting

life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.(Acts 13:46)

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Is one “in the flesh” when he repents? If so, by your logic, he cannot please God!

Unsaved are “in the flesh” (Rom. 8:8) so baptism cannot

please God???

Obviously Your Logic Is NOT Biblical!

Is one “in the flesh” when he believes? If so, by your logic, he

cannot please God!

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1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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Justifies & Saves (Rom. 3:20; 10:1-3)!

BUT they were not saved because they did not submit to God’s righteousness (Rom. 10:3)!

Strongs’ #5293 hupotasso from 5259 and 5021; to subordinate; reflexively, to obey:--be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.

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13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? …

16. But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17. So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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Whosoever calls - saved (Acts 2:21)!

Baptism & sins removed “calling on the name of the Lord” (22:16)!

Thus, what is “in His name”?Baptism for rem. of sin (Acts 2:38)!Baptism & rejoicing (8:16; 8:35f)!Baptism whereby saved (10:48;11:14)!Baptism to be saved (16:30-33)!Baptism & life (18:5-6, 8)!

Why Call, If Not Do? (Lk. 6:46; Mt. 7:21)!

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11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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14. I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.

16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know

not whether I baptized any other.17 For Christ sent me not to baptize,

but to preach the gospel:

(See also Jn. 4:1-3; Acts 18:8!)

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“…how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the

sea…” (1 Cor. 10:1-2).“And the children of Israel went into the midst of

the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and

on their left.” (Ex. 14:22)Thus the LORD saved Israel that day out of the

hand of the Egyptians; and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore.”

(Ex.14:30)Their Physical Salvation Is Parallel To Our Spiritual

Salvation!

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9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

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1. Opponent believes baptism is a work of the Missionary Baptist Church.

BAPTISM NO PART OF THE GOSPEL?

But though we, or an angel

from heaven, preach any

other gospel unto you than that which we

have preached unto you, let

him be accursed.

2. Opponent also believes baptism is a not part of the gospel.

3. Thus Missionary Baptist Church does work that is no part of the gospel.

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But when it was the good pleasure of God, who separated me, even from my mother's womb, and called me through his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles; straightway I conferred not with flesh and blood: (Gal.1:15-16)

CALLED = SAVED?

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew

thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I

have appointed thee a prophet

unto the nations.(Jer. 1:5)

IF CALLED = SAVED BEFORE BAPTISM THEN CALLED = SAVED BEFORE FAITH!

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26. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Strongs #1063. gar…properly, assigning a reason… explanation…

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22 But the scriptures shut up all things under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept in ward under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 So that the law is become our tutor to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But now faith that is come, we are no longer under a tutor.

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26 For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ.

28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye are Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, heirs according to promise.

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Gal. 2:16 “…not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ”

Gal. 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Gal. 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

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Gal. 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith

which should afterwards be revealed.24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster

to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

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Salvation (2 Tim. 2:10)

Redemption (Rom. 3:24)

Forgiveness (Col. 1:14)

Reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:19)

Promises (2 Cor. 1:20)

Inheritance(Eph. 1:11)

Eternal Life(1 Jn 5:9-12)

(Ephesians 1:3)

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“BAPTIZED INTOCHRIST”

(Rom. 6:3-4; Gal. 3:26-27)

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VS.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is

the gift of God:”

“For by grace are ye saved through faith, before and without water

baptism; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

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8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained

that we should walk in them.

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(Ephesians 2:8-9 & Acts 19)

THE EPHESIANS: Heard the Gospel (Acts 19:5; Eph. 1:13). Believed the Gospel (Ephesians 1:13). Repented of their Sins (Acts 20:21). Confessed Christ (Acts 19:18). Were Baptized (Acts 19:5).

AFTER this, Paul writes them a letter saying,“by grace are ye

saved, through faith”!

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The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)1 “Now Jericho was straitly shut up…” 2 Lord “I have given into thine hand Jericho”3 “And ye shall… go round about the city

once. Thus shalt thou do six days.”4 “…and the seventh day ye shall compass

the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.

5 “And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn… the wall of the city shall fall down flat...

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The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)

GRACE: “I have given …” (Josh.6:2).

FAITH: “By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they had been compassed

about for seven days.” (Heb.11:30).

WHEN DID THEY TAKE THE CITY? First Day?

Second Day?Third Day?Etc.?

NO!NO!

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The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)

My Opponent Would Accuse Joshua & Israel Of Trusting In Their Works!

“And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for

the LORD hath given you the city.” (Josh. 6:16)

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Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)10 Elisha sent messenger: “Go and wash in Jordan

seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.”

11 But Naaman was wroth, and went away, and said, Behold, I thought, He will surely come out to me, and stand, and call on the name of the

LORD his God, and strike his hand over the place, and recover the leper.

12 Are not Abana and Pharpar, rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters of Israel? may I not wash in them, and be clean? So he turned

and went away in a rage.

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Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)13 And his servants came near, and spake unto him,

and said, My father, if the prophet had bid thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have

done it? how much rather then, when he saith to thee, Wash, and be clean?

14 Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.

15 …and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel…”

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My Opponent Would Accuse Naaman Of Trusting

In His Works & The Water!

After cleansed: “…and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel…”

(2 Kings 2:15).

Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)

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These were OBEDIENCE OF FAITH in God, not in the power

of earthly items!

Naaman dipped seven times in the Jordan & was cleansed (2 Kings 5:1-5).

Blind man washed in the pool of Siloam & returned seeing (John 9:1-12).

People looked & lived (Num. 21:4-9).

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Gal. 2:16 “...not by the works…” Titus 3:5 “Not by works…”Eph 2:9 “Not of works…”

“But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted

with him.” (Acts 10:35)“Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” (John 6:29)

Are All Works Excluded?

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Works of men (Eph. 2:9)? NO!NO!Works of the Devil (1 Jn. 3:8)?

NO!NO!Works of Old Law (Ro.3:27-29)? NO!NO!Works of God (Col. 2:12)?

YES!YES!“Work of God” (John 6:27-29).“Law of faith” (Rom 3:27).

“Obedience to the truth” (1Pt.1:22).

“Law of the Spirit” (Rom. 8:2).Obedience of the gospel (Rom.

1:5).

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“For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”

“Baptized into Christ… Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that life as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.” (Rom. 6:3-4).

Created in Christ . . . Unto Good Works

Baptized into Christ . . . Walk in New Life

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11 ¶ Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 ¶ For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

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15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

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1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus in behalf of you Gentiles,--

2 if so be that ye have heard of the dispensation of that grace of God which was given me to you-ward;

3 how that by revelation was made known unto me the mystery, as I wrote before in few words,

4 whereby, when ye read, ye can perceive my understanding in the mystery of Christ;

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5 which in other generation was not made known unto the sons of men, as it hath now been revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit;

6 to wit, that the Gentiles are fellow-heirs, and fellow-members of the body, and fellow- partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,

7 whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of that grace of God which was given me according to the working of his power.

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8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, was this grace given, to preach unto the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

9 and to make all men see what is the dispensation of the mystery

which for ages hath been hid in God who created all things;

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10 to the intent that now unto the principalities and the powers in the

heavenly places might be made known through the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11 according to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

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“There is… one baptism”

Infant baptism = WRONG SUBJECT!

SUBJECT: Penitent Believer (Acts 2:38)ACTION: Immersion / Burial (Rom. 6:3f) MEDIUM: Water (Eph.5:26; Ax10:47-48;

1Pet.3:21)

Sprinkling = WRONG ACTION!

“Because you are already saved”= WRONG PURPOSE!

PURPOSE: Remission of Sins (Acts 2:38)

Holy Spirit = WRONG MEDIUM!

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John 3:3,5

born of water

& the spirit

enter Kingdo

m

1 Cor. 12:13

baptized

by one Spirit

into one body

Eph. 5:26

by wash of water

with the word

sanctify

& cleanse

Ti. 3:5

wash of regen.

renew of

H.Spirit

saved

Heb. 10:22

body washed

heart sprinkle

d

access to

Heaven

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11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in

putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also

ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having

forgiven you all trespasses;”

(Col.2:11-13)

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Body of Sins Put off Forgiven

of the flesh you all trespasses

UNCIRCUMCIZED CIRCUMCISION CIRCUMCIZED W/O HANDS

Dead In Sins Buried & Raised Quickened

With Him (Made Alive)

“In Baptism”

Col. 2:11-13

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WHO WILL BE CONDEMNED?

8 rendering vengeance to them that know not God, and to them that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus: 9 who shall suffer punishment, even eternal destruction from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his might, 10 when he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be marvelled at in all them that believed…HERE IS YOUR NEGATIVE

STATEMENT!

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18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that were disobedient? 19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

(ASV)

Strongs # 544 apeitheofrom 545; to disbelieve (wilfully and perversely):--not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving.

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8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he

suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

JesusWe

SaviorSaved

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15 ¶ And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

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“by FAITH Abel OFFERED unto God a more excellent sacrifice” v.4

Saving Faith (Heb. 10:39; 11:5-6, 16).

“by FAITH Noah MOVED with fear, PREPARED an ark…” v.7“by FAITH Abraham OBEYED…and WENT OUT…” v.8“by FAITH Abraham OFFER UP Isaac…” v.17

“by FAITH Moses FORSOOK Egypt…” v.27

“by FAITH they PASSED THROUGH the Red Sea…” v.29“by FAITH…walls of Jericho WERE COMPASSED…” v.30OBEDIENCE OF FAITH (Rom.

16:26).

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James 2:14-26v. 14 “…can that faith save him?”v. 17 “faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.”v. 20 “faith apart from works is barren”v. 21 “Was not Abraham our father justified by works, in that he offered up Isaac…” (Work of Devil? Men? Law? Faith?)

v. 22 “faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect”

Defined

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v. 23 “and the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness…” v. 24 “Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith.”v. 26 “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead.”

James 2:14-26

Defined

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“…Suffer it now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness…” (Mt.3:15).“and shall not the uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who with the letter and circumcision art a transgressor of the law?” (Rom. 2:27).“But I say, walk by the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” (Gal. 5:16)

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UNMERCIFUL FAITH (v. 15-16) DEAD FAITH (v. 17, 20, 26)

DEVILISH FAITH (v. 19) VAIN FAITH (v. 20). UNJUSTIFIED FAITH (v. 21, 24) IMPERFECT FAITH (v. 22)

James 2:14

THESE ARE

ACTS OF THE HEART

!

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22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 ¶ For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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20. Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.21. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

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TEMPORAL SPIRITUAL

NO and NO!

Rock (1 Cor. 10:2)Christ

Thus, Noah’s Salvation is the image of Baptism!

Is CHRIST the figure of the ROCK? Is HEAVEN the figure of

the HOLY PLACE?

FIGURE TRUE

Holy Place (Heb. 9:24) HeavenNoah’s Salvation (1 Pet. 3:20-21) Baptism

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…got salvation through water: And baptism, of which this is an image, now gives you

salvation (BBE)

NOAH’S SALVATION IS:

…were saved by means of water. And baptism, which this foreshadowed, now

saves you…” (TCNT)

The Image of Baptism!The Foreshadowing Of Baptism!

…were saved through water. This is a symbol of baptism, which now saves you

(WEB)

The Symbol Of Baptism!

…And this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you…” (NIV)

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“…The antecedent to the relative, whichever word is used, is clearly not the ark, but water; and the idea is, that as Noah was saved by water, so there is a sense in which water is made instrumental in our salvation. The mention of water in the case of Noah, in connexion with his being saved, by an obvious association suggested to the mind of the apostle the use of water in our salvation, and hence led him to make the remark about the connexion of baptism with our salvation…”

(Albert Barnes’ NT Commentary)AS Noah was saved by water…

SO are we in baptism!

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I ask my opponent,“What does baptism save us

from?”

“…baptism doth also now save us…”

?

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“…but the answer of a good conscience toward God, by the resurrection of Jesus

Christ” (KJV)Strongs # 1906from 1905; an inquiry:--

answer.

“but the interrogation of a good conscience

toward God” (ASV)

“but as an appeal to

God for a clear conscience” (RSV)

“but the question of a good

conscience in regard to God”

(YLT)

Strongs # 1905 is from 1909 and 2065; to ask for,

i.e. inquire, seek:--ask (after, questions), demand,

desire, question. “But the answer of a good conscience toward God.” The word here rendered answer means properly a

question, an inquiry. (Albert Barnes' NT

Commentary)

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By Silvanus, our faithful brother, as I account him, I

have written unto you briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God.

Stand ye fast therein.

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“THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD”

1. “And” (Mark 16:16)2. “Into” (Rom. 6:3; Gal.

3:27)3. “Then” (Rom. 6:18)4. “Now” (1 Pet. 3:21)5. “Wash Away” (Acts 22:16)6. “Wherein” (Col. 2:12)“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them

of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own

destruction. (2 Pet. 3:16)

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“But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.” (1 John 2:4-5)“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments…” (1 John 5:3).

“And this is love, that we walk after his commandments.” (2 John 6)

“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (Jn 14:21)

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Believe (1 John 5:1)

Love (1 John 4:7)

DoRighteousness

(1 John 2:29)

BORNBORNOFOF

GODGOD

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IF “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God” proves that man is saved by faith “only”, then...

Does I John 4:7 prove that a man is saved by love “only”?

Does I John 4:2, 15 prove that a man is saved by confessing Christ “only”?

Does I John 2:29, 3:10 prove that a man is saved by doing righteousness “only”?

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Opponent, Have You Not Read…

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:3-4)

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“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say,

Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” (Rev.

22:17)1. You must respond to the invitation!2. “Blessed are they that do his

commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.” (22:14).

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Six passages expressly tell us that salvation comes when & with

baptism:

Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38Romans 6:3-4 Acts 22:16I Peter 3:21 Col. 2:11-13

Name ONE Scripture which places N.T. salvation BEFORE baptism!!

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Other passages illustrate that salvation comes at the point of

baptism:

Acts 16:30-34 Philippian JailerActs 18:5-6, 8 Corinthians


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And still more necessarily imply that salvation is at the point of

baptism:

Acts 8:16 (2:21) Phillip in SamariaActs 8:35-39 Ethiopian Eunuch

Acts 11:14 (10:47-48) CorneliusActs 19:5 (2:21; Eph. 2:8-9) Ephesians

Gal. 3:26-27 Galatians


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(Met August 5th & Later Phone Conversation)

“Saved at the point of faith, before and without baptism.”

“At the point of faith, that’s when you aresaved. But you haverepentance in there.”

“Faith is before baptism. When a person believes with all his heart – that person at that time is saved.”

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(Jacobs-Holland Debate 2/25&26/05)

“If you teach works, you destroy grace.”“When you bring in works, you bring in rules/laws. If you are saved by rules, then you are saved by law. So Christ died in vain, if you are saved by the law.”“If you teach salvation is faith plus law, then you make grace void.”

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Do you believe it? Is it the principle behind your argument? Is it the logical consequence of your arguments?

“FAITH ONLY – That is not my

affirmative!”

(Jacobs-Holland Debate 2/25&26/05)

Speaking of faith in Heb.11:1-4 “by it, not anything else”

What is the difference between that and “at the point of faith”?

Speaking of faith in Acts 16:30-31“didn’t say nothing else”

Alone – Excludes anything else

(web)

Only- Nothing more (web)

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“I knew I was saved because I felt it in my heart” before baptism

(Oct. 27, 2005)“So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.” (Rom.

10:17)“And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;” (1 John 2:3-4)

“…ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine… being then made

free from sin” (Rom. 6:17-18; Cf. Acts 8:35-39)

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Paul saved men (1 Cor. 9:22).Timothy saved self & others (1

Tim. 4:16).

If baptism is essential, then that

makes man a mediator/priest.

Convert erring, save a soul (Js.5:20).

Does These Usurp The Role of Christ? If not, then neither

does baptism!

Preacher preaches so people can believe & be saved (Ro.10:13-

15).

I give you $20, postman delivers it (1Cor.3:5-7).

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NO THIRD PARTY!

Opponent says baptism is not essential because it requires a third party to do the baptizing.

SOFaith is eliminated as essential since it requires a third party to teach the gospel (Rom. 10:14; 1 Cor. 1:21; 1 Tim. 4:16; Acts 8:30-

31; Eph. 3:3-5)!OPPONENT’S LOGIC RULES OUT FAITH!

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Jn 3:16 doesn’t say “repentance”…Jn 3:16 doesn’t say “confess”…

Since _______ doesn’t mention baptism,

then baptism is not required!

When you explain why these verses INCLUDE faith,

repentance & confession – then you explain also why they

INCLUDE baptism.

Lk. 24:47 doesn’t say “believe”…

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1. “No baptism in Rom. 5:1”BUT no repentance

either!

Since _______ doesn’t mention baptism,

then baptism is not required!

Since repentance is not specifically mentioned in these

verses, does that make it unnecessary?

2. “No baptism in John 3:16”BUT no repentance

either!3. “No baptism in John 3:36”BUT no repentance

either!

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Was it fully revealed before?(1 Pet. 1:10-12; Eph.

3:5-6)

What gospel was preached to Abram (Gal. 3:8)?

The Gospel doesn’t change. Same

gospel preached in old times.

Is the shadow = to the body? (Col. 2:17)

All truth was not yet given!(John 16:12-13; John 8:32)

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HOW Gospel revealed? By promise (Gal. 3:8;

Gen. 12:6).

OPPONENT CONFUSES HOW & NOW!



WHEN? “NOW revealed” (Eph.3:5-6)HOW saved?

By grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) WHEN? “NOW saves you” (1Pet.3:21)

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1. Faith always been essential.I AGREE THAT:



BUT The Conditions of Faith that Lead to the Blood Have Changed!“New & Living Way” (Heb. 10:19-22).

Did Those Before Cross Believe In A Resurrected Savior?

2. Christ’s blood is means of salvation.

“Law changed” (Heb. 7:12). Foreknown, but now manifested (1 Pet. 1:20).

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VS.

“Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the

holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a NEW and living way…”

“Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the

holiest by the blood of Jesus, By an OLD and living way…”

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But God connected the new “covenant" with forgiveness (Heb. 8:8, 12)!

Saved by promise. A promise is

unconditional. If add conditions, promise is

made a covenant.

And God connected the new “covenant” with the blood of Christ (Mt. 26:28; Heb. 12:24)And God connected “covenant” with forgiveness (Rom. 11:27ff).

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Promise of “life” via the new “covenant” (2 Cor. 3:6).

“Better covenant” enacted upon “better promises” (Heb.

8:6)!

If have the Son – have life (1Jn 5:12).

Saved by promise, not covenant…

24 LET that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. (1 John 2:24-25)

193

1. He that believes & comes shall eat dinner with Mr. Holland; he the believes not, shall miss out.2. Go, and be fed every one of you in the

name of Mr. Holland for the satisfaction of your hunger.

If I invite you to dinner, There are no

conditions.

3. And now why tarriest thou? Arise, go to his house and eat dinner, calling upon the hospitality of Mr. Holland.4. For you are all satisfied by faith in Mr. Holland. For as many of you as ate at his house have filled your stomachs.

194

1. He that gets in & drives shall arrive home; he that gets not in, shall not arrive.2. Get in, and drive every one of you in the power of your automobile in order to get home.

If I get in my car… There are no conditions!

3. And now why tarriest thou? Get in, drive home, relying upon the power of your automobile.4. For you are all home by faith in your

automobile. For as many of you as got in and drove home have arrived at home.

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1. According to your doctrine, you should already be there at the point you decide to go! “Before and without” leaving your house, getting in your car, driving, etc.2. What is the purpose of McDonald’s sign? Is it to show that you are already there? Or “in order to” get you into McDonalds? When is its purpose fulfilled?

McDonald’s Sign… A sign of what is already

there.

BEWARE! Mr. Holland Will Steer You

Wrong & Leave You Hungry!

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The Spirit Speaks Expressly (1 Tim. 4:1):What Is Baptism’s Purpose? TO SAVE! (Mk. 16:16, Acts 2:38; 22:16; etc.) (Gal. 3:26-27)What Is The Purpose Of Attending, etc? To KEEP Us Saved! (1 Cor. 11:32; Heb. 10:25-26f) (Eph. 2:10)

Baptism is like the Lord’s Supper, Singing, Prayer.

“Make disciples” (Mt. 28:19) “all things” (v20).

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JESUS: “I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” (Lk 5:32).OPPONENT: “I came not to call sinners, but the righteous who already have eternal life to repentance.”

Salvation Comes Before

Repentance

OPPONENT’S “LOGIC” RULES OUT REPENTANCE!

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1. Opponent says that repentance comes before faith.2. Notice what is ascribed to

repentance:Sins blotted out (Acts 3:19).Repentance unto life (Acts

11:18). Repent for remission of sin (Ax 2:38).

Repentance Comes Before Faith

OPPONENT’S LOGIC RULES OUT FAITH!

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1. Do our emotions determine what is Truth (John 17:17; 1 Cor. 2:13)?2. Can we issue pardon to ourselves (Rom. 3:26; Pr. 14:12)?

HEART FELT SALVATION?

If oppose obedience, is your heart right?

3. The Bible “heart” includes: Thoughts &

Intentions (Heb.4:12).Will to obey (Rom. 6:17).

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Repentance Simultaneous With Faith

(Mk 1:15; Ax 20:21).

Then AFTER faith/repentance, he still needs to be

converted and have his sins blotted out!

“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out” (Acts 3:19).

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(Mk 1:15; Ax 20:21).

1. The goodness of God leads to repentance (Rom. 2:4). 2. One must believe in God’s

goodness before he can be lead to repent.

Therefore: Faith occurs BEFORE repentance. They do NOT occur

simultaneously!

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(Mk 1:15; Ax 20:21).

1. Godly sorrow works repentance (2 Cor. 7:10). 2. One must believe in God’s love / judgment before he will be sorry toward God.Therefore: Faith occurs BEFORE repentance. They do NOT occur

simultaneously!

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(Mk 1:15; Ax 20:21).“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). PROPER

ORDER?“And we are witnesses of all things which He did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree” (Acts

10:39). PROPER ORDER?“That, if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt

believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead…”

(Rom. 10:9). PROPER ORDER?

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(Mk 1:15; Ax 20:21).DOES OPPONENT UNDERSTAND “IN

ORDER”?“But Peter began, and expounded the matter unto them IN ORDER, saying,”

(Acts 11:4).“Who shall speak unto thee words, whereby thou shalt be saved, thou

and all thy house. And as I BEGAN to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them,

even as on us at the beginning.” (Acts 11:14-15)“And he commanded them to be

baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.” (Acts 10:48).

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1. Paul baptized to have sins washed away (Acts 22:16).2. Paul was “not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.” (2 Cor. 11:5)

No record of apostles being baptized, except

Paul. Were the apostles saved?

It Is A Necessary Conclusion!

3. Therefore, even the “chiefest” of apostles had to be baptized to have their sins washed away!

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1. Peter commanded baptism in the name of the Lord, for the remission of sin (Acts 2:38; 10:47-48).2. Apostles bound only what was

necessary (Acts 15:28).

No record of apostles being baptized, except

Paul. Were the apostles saved?

It Is A Necessary Conclusion!

3. Therefore, it was necessary to be baptized (even for the apostles)!

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1. What Christ died to unite, my opponent now tries to divide (Eph. 2:11-16)!

Baptism required of the Jews (Acts 2:38), but not

of the Gentiles.

2. Paul wrote to the Gentiles about baptism (Rom. 6:3-4, 16-18)!3. Are there TWO gospels now?

TWO faiths? One for Jews & one for Gentiles (Eph. 4:5)?

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SOME OF YOU HAVE JOINED THE BAPTIST

CHURCH

My opponent says some have left the Lord’s church to Join the

Baptist church.

Paul said, “some shall departfrom the faith” (1 Tim. 4:1).

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1. Saved before & without baptism.2. Baptized to enter Baptist church.3. Thus, salvation is before & without the Baptist church!

Your doctrine makes the Baptist church UNNECESSARY!

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2. But, baptism is when people were saved (Ax 2:38, Mk.16:16).3. Thus, your version of baptism is different from Bible baptism!

1. Saved “before & without” baptism.

Following man’s doctrines shows a rejection of God’s traditions

(Mk. 7:7,9).

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2. Opponent believes that baptism is no part of the gospel.3. Thus, the Baptist churches are

engaged in a work that is not part of the gospel.

1. Opponent believes that baptism is a work of the Baptist church.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him

be accursed. (Gal. 1:8)

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1. John would have hindered Him(Mt. 3:14).

2. Baptism was still a command of God!

John knew Jesus was not in need of sins being remitted! (cf. Lk. 3:3; Heb. 4:15)

“…for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness” (Mt. 3:15; Ps. 119:172)

To Reject Baptism Is To Reject God’s Counsel! (Mt. 21:25; Luke 7:30; 1 John

2:4-6)

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To Reject BaptismIs To Reject God’s Counsel!

“The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with

themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not

then believe him?” (Matt. 21:25)

“But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not

baptized of him.” (Luke 7:30)

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You Know An Argument Is Weak When…1. Resist The Holy Spirit (Acts

7:51-53):

2. Special pleading (emotion) (Matt. 7:7).

a. Add/subtract (Rev. 22:18f; Dt.4:2).b. Ignore Bible usage (1 Pet. 4:11).

d. Appeal to silence of Scriptures (Heb.7:12-14).

c. Deny plain truth (Gen. 3:3-4).

3. Create straw-man (Mk. 14:56-59).

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7:51-53):a. Add/subtract (Rev. 22:18f; Dt.4:2).Faith “only” or “alone”

“At the point of” faith.“Before and without”

baptism.

Faith “by it, not anything else”

Add the word “NOT”. Subtract the word “baptism”. Redefine the word “for”.

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7:51-53):d. Appeal to silence of Scriptures (Heb.7:12-14).

“John 3:16 does NOT say baptism!”“1 John 5:1 does NOT say baptism!”

“Again it is written…” (Mt.4:4; Ps.119:160).“The whole council of God” (Ax

20:28).“All scriptures…” (2 Tim. 3:16-17).

“Mk 16:16b does NOT say baptized not!”

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7:51-53):d. Appeal to silence of Scriptures (Heb.7:12-14).

“Thief was not baptized!”“Woman at well not baptized!”

Does Mr. Holland Know What Is

NOT Revealed (Deut. 29:29)?

“Zachaeus not baptized!”

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You Know An Argument Is Weak When…2. Special pleading (emotion).

Man in desert… dies without water.

CH Dennis Newton baptizes a solider in an onionskin waterpod, February 1991.

http://www.usachcs.army.mil/museum/DesertS.htm

Pfc. David Kurns is baptized by Task Force Chaplain Capt. Ron Cooper, left, and 1st Lt. Brian Case, right, in the desert north of Kuwait City, Wednesday, March 12. Eight members of the 3rd

Infantry Division were baptized in the desert on Wednesday. (2003)

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You Know An Argument Is Weak When…2. Special pleading (emotion).

Man in desert… dies without water. Man in space shuttle…

Man on way to be baptized…

All true seekers are granted opportunity (Matt. 7:7; Rom.

1:20)!What about the sincere man on the way to hear opponent speak & he dies? Will he be saved without faith?

Condemns my parents…

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You Know An Argument Is Weak When…3. Create straw-man (Mk. 14:56-

59).

Ex. Indicate I Don’t Believe The O.T. There is a diff (Jer.31:31ff; Heb.8:8ff; Heb. 7:12; Eph.2:11ff)!When Philip preached Jesus

beginning at Isaiah 53, he taught baptism (Acts 8:28-40)!

Assert / imply that I hold a view that I do not.

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You Know An Argument Is Weak When…3. Create straw-man (Mk. 14:56-

59).Assert / imply that I hold a view that I do not (Ex. “Campbellite”).

OPPONENT: I challenge you to name ONE thing I

believe, teach or practice that originated with Campbell !

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3. Create straw-man (Mk. 14:56-59).PRE-CAMPBELL CHURCHES OF CHRIST

(Besides those in Rom. 16:16)

“In 1052, a network of churches of Christ in central Germany was in existence… The churches of Christ did not only hold their

ground in their strongholds in Alsace-Loraine, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, but from 1518 to 1538 they succeeded in

multiplying their congregations”

(Hans G. Grimm, The Preceptor, “The Story of The Churches of Christ in Central Europe,” Vol. VI, pp.

3, 5).

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