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Page 1: 15-Feb-2008 By: Timothy S. Irwin, P.E. Senior Engineer mbesivibration.org/Presentation/Feb 2008/Integrally Geared Air... · 2019. 10. 30. · Integrally Geared Air Compressor Case

1515--FebFeb--20082008

13 Aberdeen WayElgin, SC 29045

Tel. (803) 427-0791

By: By: Timothy S. Irwin, P.E.Timothy S. Irwin, P.E.

Senior EngineerSenior Engineertsitsi@@mbesi.commbesi.com

Rotating Machinery Diagnostics & Instrumentation Solutions for Maintenance That Matterswww.mbesi.com

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Integrally Geared Air CompressorsIntegrally Geared Air Compressors

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Integrally Geared Air CompressorsIntegrally Geared Air Compressors

How do we monitor these types of machines?

What kind of components are we trying to monitor in these machines?

High speed gearingHigh speed shafts / impellersLow speed shaftsGeared couplingsDisc or shim-pack couplingsSleeve bearingsMulti-segment tilt pad bearings

This does not include the driver which could be a motor or turbine of whicheither one can add more complexities to the setup of a monitoring route

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What parameters do we have available for monitoring the overall condition?

Bearing temperaturesStage and drive gear vibrationStage inlet and outlet temperaturesStage inlet and outlet pressures Intercooler inlet and outlet temperaturesIntercooler inlet and outlet pressuresMotor amperage or kW

There are a lot of parameters that can be used including the above items and:

Performance testingOil AnalysisAnd visual inspections

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What do we use to monitor the vibration of the machine?

Is there a permanent probe of some kind on each stage?Is there a permanent monitoring / vibration protection system installed?Or are our only options temporary accelerometers?

Many permanent monitoring systems will have proximity probes on each stage,are they?

A single probe on the stage?Dual probes at 90 degrees?Any there permanent accelerometers?Can you plug-in to obtain the raw signal in your portable data collector?

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Integrally Geared Air CompressorsIntegrally Geared Air Compressors

Vibration Analysis:

Proximity probe useMagnetically mounted accelerometersHigh Frequency accelerometers

To use the above probes we need to figure out the expected fault frequenciesSo that we can set up the appropriate frequency spans and resolutions

The following segments of the case studies will be on several Joy (Cameron Compression) MSG 4-stage machines

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

What are typical Fault Frequencies:Shaft Running SpeedsJournal Bearing IssuesGear Mesh (and other gear fault frequencies)Vane Pass (diffuser vs. impeller)Coupling/Alignment

MotorShaft Running SpeedsJournal Bearing IssuesElectrical Frequencies

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Example Fault Frequencies:Shaft Speeds:

Motor, Couplings, & Gear 1781 rpmPinion Speeds 14,385 & 21,372 rpm

Gears (420 teeth, 52 teeth, 35 teeth):Gear Mesh 748,020 (12,467 Hz)Assembly phase 187,000 & 21,372 cpmHunting Tooth 1198, 203 cpm

Vane Pass 362,100 cpm (for bladed diffuser)

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Displacement Velocity AccelerationWhat is an acceptable measurementfrequency range:

3600 rpm 20,000 rpm 750,000 cpmDisplacement (mils) 1 1 1Velocity (in/s) 0.19 1.05 39.3Acceleration (g) 0.18 5.68 7988

3600 rpm 20,000 rpm 750,000 cpmDisplacement (mils) 27 0.88 0.0006 Velocity (in/s) 5.1 0.921 0.025Acceleration (g) 5 5 5

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Note the step changes in the trend plot

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Note the variations in amplitude over time

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Here is a recent comparison to the other stages on the same machine

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Just after the startup

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This is only 6 days later

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1X Amplitudes at different samples: 0.793; 0.851; 0.709; 0.713; 0.862

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Frequency in kCPM

NER - #6 JOY#6 AIRCOMP-P2B PANEL POINT TWO 2ND STAGE BOTTOM

0 30 60 90 120

Max Amp.86

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11:17:3313-Sep-07

14:47:1708-Oct-07

09:20:5020-Nov-07

08:59:0710-Dec-07

15:41:5007-Jan-08

Freq: Ordr: Sp 1:

19.051.004.862

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Case Study #1 Case Study #1 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Note the difference in the noise floor of a 10 mV/g vs. 100 mV/g

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Now we are at 20 kHz Frequency Span

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Now we are at 50 kHz

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Are the overall amplitudes really higher than expected?

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Case Study #2 Case Study #2 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

Differing time frames from the high frequency accel

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Case Study #3 Case Study #3 Cameron Compression MSGCameron Compression MSG

RawTimebase orWaveform

High FrequencyEnveloping

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Case Study #4 Case Study #4 IngersollIngersoll--Rand Centac IIRand Centac II

Note the amplitudes

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Case Study #4 Case Study #4 IngersollIngersoll--Rand Centac IIRand Centac II

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Case Study #4 Case Study #4 IngersollIngersoll--Rand Centac IIRand Centac II

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Thank You Any Questions?