2021 lsta virtual asia investor conference
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2021 LSTA VIRTUAL ASIA INVESTOR CONFERENCE
INVESTING IN THE U.S. LOAN MARKET
2021 LSTA VIRTUAL ASIA INVESTOR CONFERENCE
INVESTING IN THE U.S. LOAN MARKET
Lending & Investing in aPost-Pandemic Loan Market
Moderator: Lee Shaiman, LSTASpeakers:Jeff Bakalar, Voya Investment ManagementScott Baskind, InvescoJason Duko, Ares ManagementDavid Golub, Golub CapitalJohn Popp, Credit Suisse Asset Management
Secondary Market Loan Prices Recovered Quickly as Compared to the Great Financial Crisis
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Avg. Secondary Loan Market Bid Level
Source: LSTA/Refinitiv MTM Pricing
The Amount of Loans Outstanding Began Increasing Once Again in 2021, Rising $29 Billion Year-to-Date
$900B
$950B
$1000B
$1050B
$1100B
$1150B
$1200B
$1250B
Jan-18 Jan-19 Jan-20 Jan-21
S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index Outstandings
Source: S&P Global LCD
After Returning 3.1% Last Year, 2021 Loan Returns are on Target to Surpass That Level by the End of Second Quarter 2021
3.1% 2.6%
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S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index: Historical Return
Source: S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index
2,0002,5003,0003,5004,0004,500
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-17
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S&P 500 Index
Source: Federal Reserve Bank and Bloomberg
US Markets are Seemingly Looking Past the COVID-19 Pandemic as the Vaccine Rollout Stokes Optimism for 2021
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10YR Treas. (%) 3-MO Treas. (%)
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Consumer Price Index (%)
Consumer Prices Rose 4.2% Year-Over-Year in April 2021 as Consumer Price Inflation Accelerated in March and April 2021
Consumer Price Index: Year-Over-Year Growth
Consumer Price Index: Annualized Month-Over-Month Change
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Source: Bloomberg
The Rise and Eventual Fall of LIBOR
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4.03-Month London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR), based on U.S. Dollar, Percent
Source: Bloomberg
LIBOR Transition: What to Expect
Speaker: Meredith Coffey, LSTA
• LIBOR: Things to Know
• Comparing the potential replacement rates
• Implication of LIBOR transition for CLOs
Topics
• The USD LIBOR transition is bifurcated. Most USD LIBOR rates will be published through June 2023, but banks will not be permitted to enter into new LIBOR contracts after YE 2021.
• Therefore:o USD LIBOR Origination by banks ends on December 31, 2021
o USD LIBOR Transition for most legacy contracts not required until June 30, 2023
o This bifurcation of dates may have implications for CLOs
• Several Replacement Rates are in play in the US syndicated loan market, including Term SOFR, Daily Compounded SOFR, Daily Simple SOFR and Credit Sensitive Rates (CSRs)o ARRC and market have made significant progress toward developing a Forward Looking Term SOFR
o CSR loans (most recently BSBY) are beginning to emerge
• There are economic and operational implications for the different replacement rates
LIBOR Transition: Things to Know
Characteristics of LIBOR vs Potential Replacement Rates
Rate/Characteristic
Known in Advance of Interest Period?
Significant Calculation Required ?
Credit Sensitivity? Current Use Cases Strengths/ Weaknesses
LIBOR Y N Y Nearly all Floating Rate Products Fragile; LIBOR loan origination ends at 12/31/21
Credit Sensitive Rate (CSR) Y N Y Loans, potentially FRNs
Nearly seamlessly substitutes for LIBOR in loan & CLO systems; May be less robust than SOFR; May be impacted by Money Market Reforms
Forward Looking Term SOFR Y N N
Used as top step and "flip forward" in Hardwired waterfalls; Used as "flip forward" in Daily SOFR loan agreements
Easily substitutes for LIBOR in loan & CLO systems; CME Term SOFR has been launched, which ARRC will recommend once all indicators have been met; Economically different from LIBOR.
SOFR Compounded in Advance Y N NMortgages; RMBS; possibly ABS generally; some business loans
Robust and easily substitutes for LIBOR in loan & CLO systems; Viewed as stale and arbitragable by loan borrowers.
Daily Simple SOFR N N N Some business loans; some FRNs
Robust and relatively easily hedged. Does not substitute easily for LIBOR in CLO & loan systems and conventions, but more implementable than Daily Compounded SOFR.
Daily Compounded SOFR N Y N Derivatives; most FRNsRobust, very hedgeable. Viewed as challenging substitute for LIBOR in loan & CLO systems and conventions.
• USD LIBOR is a credit sensitive, forward-looking term rate with 1M/3M tenors.• Credit Sensitive Rates (CSRs) are calculated using inputs such as CP, CD, bank deposit rates and bank bonds and are correlated to LIBOR.• SOFR is an overnight nearly risk-free rate based on overnight treasury repo. A 1M/3M “tenor” rate is developed by either averaging the
rate (in advance or in arrears) or by using a term curve developed by futures trading.
• The LIBOR and CSR curve should be higher and steeper than SOFR because LIBOR and CSRs have credit risk and SOFR does not
• All the SOFRs should be very similar, because they are all built around SOFR. Specifically, they reference:o Where SOFR is in the current calculation period (Daily
Simple/Daily Compounded)
o Where SOFR was in the prior calculation period (SOFR Compounded in Advance)
o Where Daily Compounded SOFR is expected to be at the end of the calculation period (Forward Looking Term SOFR)
Interest Rate Comparisons for LIBOR, SOFR & CSRs
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Fig. 1: Comparing LIBOR, BSBY and SOFRs(April 2021)
LIBOR CME Term SOFRBSBY SOFR In Advance
Source: St. Louis Fed, CME, Bloomberg
• LIBOR origination ends 18 months before LIBOR transition for legacy assets; this has implications for existing CLOs
• Before the liabilities in existing (pre-2022) CLOs transition from LIBOR to a replacement rateo These CLOs typically will have liabilities based on LIBOR and will hold many pre-2022 loans originated on LIBOR; thus,
assets and liabilities are initially both based on LIBOR and there’s limited basis risk
o However, beginning Jan 2022, new loans should reference a CSR or SOFR; thus liabilities and assets increasingly will be on different reference rates
o If new loans are based on CSRs, they would be correlated to LIBOR and would introduce less basis risk into CLOs
o If new loans are based on SOFR, they may be less correlated to LIBOR and could introduce more basis risk into legacy CLOs
• What happens when existing pre-2022 CLOs transition from LIBOR to replacement rate?o CLOs may transition i) early through an Asset Replacement Trigger or ii) at LIBOR cessation in June 2023
o If an “Asset Replacement Trigger” exists in the CLO, it is possible that when the CLO transitions away from LIBOR, liabilities might transition to SOFR or to the rate on the majority of the assets in the CLO
o If there is no “Asset Replacement Trigger”, then after June 2023, CLO liabilities are likely to transition to SOFR and assetsmay be on i) SOFR, ii) a mix of CSR and SOFR, or iii) mostly CSR
LIBOR Transition: Rate Implications for Existing CLOs
• New CLOs issued after 2022 may or may not follow the reference rate adopted by loans
• If loan market adopts Term SOFR, the CLO liabilities are likely to adopt SOFR as wello In this scenario, the liabilities are aligned with other securitized products and there is no basis risk for CLO equity
• If the loan market adopts a CSR and CLO liabilities adopt SOFRo There potentially is more basis risk that CLO equity must absorb or CLOs must have more robust hedging language
o CLO liabilities should be aligned with other securitized products (assuming they adopt SOFR)
• If the loan market adopts a CSR and CLO liabilities also adopt a CSRo There is limited basis risk between assets and liabilities
o CLO liabilities may be on a different reference rate from other securitized products (assuming other ABS adopt SOFR)
LIBOR Transition: Rate Implications for New CLOs
• LIBOR transition is coming
• It is not yet clear what the ultimate LIBOR replacement rate will be for loans, though it is likely to be Term SOFR or a CSR
• Clarity on the US loan replacement rate should emerge in the next few months
• The bifurcated LIBOR transition timeline in the US will have implications for CLOs
• It is important to understand the fallback language in your existing CLOs to know how your CLO may transition
• The LSTA can be a helpful resource, with many publications, webcasts and member calls that discuss key issues around LIBOR transition
LIBOR Transition: Key Takeaways
LSTA Resources: LIBOR Call, Podcasts, Documents & News
Actively Positioning Loan Portfolios During and After the Pandemic
Moderator: Theodore Basta, LSTASpeakers:Brian Goldberg, Shenkman CapitalFrank Longobardi, AlcentraMatthew Maxwell, BlackRockDaniel McMullen, Blackstone CreditChristopher Remington, Eaton Vance Management
The Loan Market Proved to be Resilient Through the Pandemic
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Annual Loan Return
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AVG Trade Price Median Trade Price
Source: The LSTA Trade Data Study and S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index
2020 Secondary Loan Trading Volume Surged to a Record $720 Billion, and is on Target to Surpass $800 Billion in 2021
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Monthly Secondary Trading Volume
Source: The LSTA Trade Data Study
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Bid-Ask Spread (in basis points)
Visible Flows Into the Loan Asset Class are Robust as Index Outstandings Increase Above $1.2 Trillion in 2021
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Loan Mutual Fund/ETF Flows CLO Issuance
Source: Refinitiv & S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index (LLI)
$1150B
$1170B
$1190B
$1210B
$1230BS&P/LSTA Lev. Loan Index Outstandings
CLOs (64%) and Loan Mutual Funds/ETFs (9%) Combine to Represent 73% of Total Loans Outstanding
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Loan Mutual Fund/ETF % CLO %
$172 $112
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LLI Outstandings
Loan Mutual Fund/ETF AUM
CLO AUM
Source: Refinitiv & S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index (LLI)
The Leveraged Loan Default Rate Has Steadily Declinedas Downgrades Have Shifted to Upgrades
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Source: S&P Global & JP Morgan as of 4/30/21.
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Lower Rated Credits Have Outperformed Over the Last 12-Months
Source: S&P/LSTA Leveraged Loan Index (LLI)
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Index BBB BB B CCC
Index BBB BB B CCC
Trailing 12-Month Loan Return% of Loan
IndexBid Level Spread (bps)
Index -- 97.8 L+435
BBB 8% 99.6 L+218
BB 21% 99.1 L+305
B 61% 99 L+443
CCC 8% 91.9 L+871
The Relative Value Profile of the Loan Market has Strengthened
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EM Bonds
US Investment Grade
US Agg
US Treasury Bonds
Municipal
Bonds3-Month US Treasury Bill
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Loans HY Bond HG Bond 10 YearTreas
YTD April 2021 Fixed Income Total Returns
Source: Barclays, Bloomberg, S&P LCD. “US Bank Loans”=S&P Leveraged Loan Index, “US Treasury Bonds”=BarCap US Government Bond Index, “US Agg”=BarCap US Aggregate Index, “US Investment Grade”=BarCap US Investment Grade Corporate Index, “Municipal Bonds”=BarCap Municipal Bond Index, “US High Yield Bonds”=BarCap US High Yield Index, “EM Bonds”=Barclays Emerging Market USD Bond Index. As of 4/30/2021. Indices are unmanaged and one cannot invest directly in an index.
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CLOs: Where We’ve Been, Where We’re Going
Moderator: Meredith Coffey, LSTASpeakers:David Moffitt, Investcorp Credit ManagementKonstantin Kulev, MUFG SecuritiesHimani Trivedi, NuveenThomas Wong, Oak Hill Advisors
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• Financial Crisis vs Covid-19: CLO Resilience and Manager Strategies
• Market Trends & Outlook I: Volumes & Issuance
• Market Trends & Outlook II: Spreads & Returns
• Market Trends & Outlook III: Investors
Topics
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Financial Crisis vs Covid-19:CLO Resilience & Manager Strategies
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Rating Agencies Downgraded Rapidly During Pandemic, But Loans Are Now Being Upgraded
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Rating Agencies Downgraded Aggressively in Pandemic (Downgrade:Upgrade Ratio)
Source: S&P
• In May 2020, there were 43 downgrades for every upgrade
• In April 2021, there were 2 upgrades for every downgrade
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Share of CLOs with Defaulted Loans Rose in Pandemic, Then Declined Sharply
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Share of U.S. CLOs with <1% Defaults Fell Below 50% in Sept '20, Recovered to 86% by April '21
0 Defaults <1% >=1%Source: Refinitiv LPC Collateral
• In February 2020, 78% of CLOs had less than 1% of defaulted assets
• By Sept 2020, only 47% of CLOs had less than 1% defaulted assets
• But by April 2021, 86% of CLOs had less than 1% defaulted assets
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In Pandemic, Loan Prices Fell Sharply, But Have Recovered All of Their Losses Since Then
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Source: Refinitiv LPC Collateral
• Prices of loans held in CLOs declined sharply at the beginning of the Covid-19 Pandemic
• After falling to an average of in the low 80s in March 2020, prices have since recovered to pre-Pandemic levels
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Self-Healing? Share of CLOs Failing Jr OC Test Rises in Pandemic, Then Declines
• As loans were downgraded (and some defaulted) and loan prices dropped, some CLOs failed their Jr OC test
• But by April 2021, Jr OC test failure rate was < 1%
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In Pandemic, Rating Agencies Downgraded a Number of CLO Tranches; Many Ratings Were Subsequently Affirmed
% with any rating action
Currently on watch
On Watch, then Downgraded
On Downgrade Watch, then
Affirmed
On Watch for Upgrade/ Upgraded
AAA - - - - -
AA 1% 0% 0.3% 0.3% 8%
A 7% 0% 2.4% 3.9% 9%
BBB 42% 1% 14% 27% 8%
BB 59% 1% 35% 24% 3%
B 85% 2% 61% 23% 5%
• Anticipating near-record default rates, rating agencies took quick rating actions on CLO tranches
• Actions primarily affected tranches rated BBB and below
• No AAA tranches were downgraded
• Some tranches have been upgraded or are on now watch for upgrade
Source: BofA
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1. How did the Covid-19 crisis compare to the 2008 financial crisis for CLOs?
2. What strategies did managers use to manage through Covid-19?
3. How did flexibility help managers manage through the pandemic? What other tools
would or will be helpful?
4. What would have happened to CLOs if the US government hadn’t stepped in with rescue
programs for many (other) markets?
5. Did the CLO asset class actually benefit as a result of the Covid 19 crisis?
6. Do you think CLO reputations are improving to where they should be? Why or why not?
CLO Performance, Resilience & Manager Strategy: Panel Questions
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Market Trends & Outlook I: Volumes & Issuance
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U.S. CLO Issuance, Refinancings & Resets Have Recovered
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Source: S&P/LCD
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1. Where does U.S. CLO activity (new issue, refi, reset) go in 2021? Why?
2. How should managers approach the market as an issuer?
3. How has the pace of activity changed; what are the logjams?
4. What does new issue pace (and logjams) mean for investment
opportunities?
5. How would you explain the syncopated issuance volumes in first and
second quarters?
Market Trends & Outlook I: Volumes & IssuancePanel Questions
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Market Trends & Outlook II: Spreads & Returns
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US CLO AAA New Issue Spreads
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US CLO AAA Spreads
Source: Refinitiv LPC Collateral
• In the pandemic, CLO spreads widened significantly, and significant manager dispersion appeared
• By 1Q21, spreads had tightened significantly; April 2021 saw a bit of widening off the bottom
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CLO New Issue Spreads Across Capital Stack
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Source: S&P/LCD
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1. Explain where spreads have gone and why? Where are they going?
2. Discuss dispersion between managers
3. What is rich/cheap in the cap stack?
4. How can managers best approach the market to optimize new issue pricing?
Market Trends & Outlook II: Spreads & ReturnsPanel Questions
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