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MEMORANDUM TO: Technical Committee on Single and Multiple Station Alarms and Household Fire Alarm Systems

FROM: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

DATE: December 9, 2014

SUBJ: NFPA 72 Proposed TIA Log No. 1163 Circulation of TC Ballots __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The preliminary ballot results of the TC balloting on proposed TIA No. 1163 are as follows: 24 Eligible to Vote 7 Not Returned (Boyd, Fraczkowski, Gottuk, Kittle, Pecht, Rader, Simpson) Technical Merit:

Emergency Nature:

2 Abstentions (Dedear, Olenick) 1 Abstentions (Dedear) 3

Agree

5

Agree

12 Disagree (Blum, Dallaire, Christian, Cleary, Gifford, Kryagin, McNelis, Miniszewski, Ogle, Orlowski, Parssinen, Ratzlaff)

11

Disagree (Blum, Dallaire, Christian, Gifford, Kryagin, McNelis, Miniszewski, Olenick, Ogle, Orlowski, Ratzlaff)

There are two criteria necessary to pass ballot [(1) affirmative ¾ vote and (2) simple majority] with both questions needing to pass ballot in order to recommend that the Standards Council issues this TIA. (1) The number of affirmative votes needed for the report to be published is 12.

Technical Merit: (24 eligible to vote - 7 not returned - 2 abstentions = 15 × 0.75 = 11.25 = 12) Emergency Nature: (24 eligible to vote - 7 not returned - 1 abstentions = 16 × 0.75 = 12)

(2) In all cases, an affirmative vote of at least a simple majority of the total membership eligible to vote is

required.

This is the calculation for simple majority: [24 eligible ÷ 2 = 12 + 1 = (13)]

Therefore, based on the responses received to date the preliminary results show that this TIA IS NOT passing ballot. Reasons for negative votes received from principal members are attached for your review. Ballots received from alternate members are not included, unless the ballot from the principal member was not received. If you wish to change your vote, please do so no later than December 16, 2014. Those of you who did not return your ballot may do so now. Ballots or changes may be submitted to Jenny Depew via email to jdepew@nfpa.org or fax to 617-770-0700. If you do not wish to change your vote, no response is necessary.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____________ AGREE ____X____ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

I believe the language, as it is currently written in the code, clearly states that an accessory

device that creates the low frequency signal can be used.

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE ______X______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

I do not feel this TIA has technical merit, as such I do not feel it is an emergency

Signature

Andrew Blum

Name (Please Print)

________________________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

1 Batterymarch Park

Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____________ AGREE ____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_As currently written section 29.3.8.1 does not prohibit the use of smoke alarm accessory

_devices from producing the low frequency audible signal. At present there are several listed

_smoke alarm accessory products that produce the low frequency audible alarm signal

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE _____X______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

__This TIA does not meet the emergency nature requirements as there are listed products

on the market._______________________________________________________

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_ __________

Signature

_David E. Christian________________

Name (Please Print)

_12/08/2014______________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

1 Batterymarch Park

Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____________ AGREE _____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________ The current language says “notification appliance.” That clearly allows listed accessories to be used.

_____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE ________X____ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________ I believe this is an education problem, not a problem with the code as written.

_____________________________________________________________________

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Signature

_Wendy B. Gifford_______________________________

Name (Please Print)

____12/5/2014____________________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1: _______X____ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ______X_____ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________

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_____ _________________________ Signature _______Rich Hoffman_________________________ Name (Please Print) __________12/5/2014______________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____________ AGREE _____x_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________ 29.3.8.1 Currently is correct, and allows for accessories that produce the low frequency alarm signal.

_____________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE ___x_________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

_the issue does not appear to warrant any emergency actions; some public release of

clarification, e.g. note or article in NFPA Journal, etc. should suffice.

_____________________________________________________________________

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Signature

Kim R. Mniszewski

________________________________

Name (Please Print)

____12/5/14____________________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

1 Batterymarch Park

Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____________ AGREE ______X______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

While I agree with the submitters’ intent to add clarity to this section to explicitly permit the use of

smoke alarm accessories in lieu of smoke alarms as a source of low frequency alarm signals; as the

proposal is currently worded, smoke alarm accessories could only be used in the absence of smoke

alarms that are capable of producing a low frequency alarm signal. I believe this conflicts with the

both the intent and the current wording of 29.3.8.1 and makes the use of accessories dependent only

on the lack of availability of smoke alarms that produce low frequency signals, rather than

permitting them as an alternative source of low frequency alarm signals in all situations._______

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

_____X_______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

________________________________

Signature

_John L Parssinen_________________

Name (Please Print)

_December 8, 2014________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

1 Batterymarch Park

Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

__________ AGREE ______X______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

The current edition states how to comply with the standard if the smoke alarm is not a

capable of producing a low frequency sound. See 29.3.8.1.1 Where listed smoke alarms

are not capable of producing the required low frequency signal, listed smoke alarm

accessories that produce the low frequency alarm signal shall be permitted

._________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE ____X________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

__29.3.8.1.1 explains how to meet the requirements of the standard if the alarm is not

capable of producing a low frequency sound.

___________________________________________________________________

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Signature

___Larry___Ratzlaff__________________________

Name (Please Print)

______12-08-2014__________________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT

PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree with the TECHNICAL MERITS of the Proposed TIA to Add a new Subsection 29.3.8.1.1:

____X________ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

Question 2: I agree that the subject is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

___X_________ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________________

_ ______

Signature

_Tom Waldron____________________

Name (Please Print)

__12-7-14________________________

Date

Please return the ballot on or before Monday, December 8, 2014.

PLEASE RETURN TO:

Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

NFPA

1 Batterymarch Park

Quincy, MA 02169 E-mail: jdepew@nfpa.org FAX: (617) 770-0700