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A TASTE OF MOTIVATIONAL INTERVIEWING
Alan Lyme, LISW, MAC
MINT
Training Director, Phoenix Center, Greenville SC
Goals
Present a brief overview of Motivational Interviewing
Look at the intersection of MI within the EMPath “Coaching for Economic Mobility Model”
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Motivational Interviewing is
making KNOWN what You KNOW
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Compassionate Conversation
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What most people really need is a good listening to. ~Mary Lou Casey
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LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN!
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Motivational interviewing is a
person-centered, evidence-
based, goal-oriented method
for enhancing intrinsic
motivation to change by
exploring and resolving
ambivalence with the
individual.
Motivational Interviewing 3rd Ed.
Miller and Rollnick, (2012)
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Motivational Interviewing
Collaboration
Acceptance
Evocation
Compassion MI
Spirit
MI literature
1991, 2002, 2013 Motivational
Interviewing: Helping People Change. Miller & Rollnick
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2011 Motivational Interviewing in Social Work Practice. Melinda Hohman
Four Fundamental Processes of MI
Engaging
Focusing
Evoking
Planning
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The processes are somewhat linear……
Engaging necessarily comes first
Focusing (identifying a change goal) is a prerequisite for Evoking
Planning is logically a later step
Engage - Shall we walk together?
Focus - Where?
Evoke - Why?
Plan - How?
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How Coaching for Economic Mobility fits with the Four Fundamental Processes of MI
Engaging - Engaging the Participant in Self Assessment
and Developing the Capacity to Aspire
Focusing - Motivation and Allowing the
Participant to Develop Her Own Goals
Evoking - Strategizing and
Creating Momentum
Planning - Providing Expertise
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ENGAGING: Open the Conversation
• Explain role • State appointment length • Ask permission
EVOKING: Build Motivation •Ask evocative questions
•Encourage elaboration
•Looking back/Looking forward
•Explore/Amplify ambivalence
•Explore goals and values
•Assess importance/confidence
FOCUSING: Negotiate the Agenda
PLANNING: Strengthening Commitment •Brainstorm ideas and opinions
•Negotiate a plan
•Explore barriers
•Identify support
•Elicit final commitment
Close the Encounter: •Summarize the session
•Show appreciation
•Support self-efficacy
•Arrange follow-up as
appropriate
•Link with available resources
Support the Transition: •Recognizing readiness
•Summarizing the big picture
•Ask about next steps
Provide Clinical Feedback •Use visual support materials
•Be clear, succinct, and non-
judgmental
•Compare to norms and
standards
•Elicit Participant's
interpretation
Elicit -
Provide -
Elicit • Education
• Advice
• Feedback
• Skills
• Referral
Clinical
Roadmap
Motivational Interviewing
Assumes motivation is fluid and can be influenced
Motivation influenced in the context of a relationship – developed in the context of a participant encounter
Principle tasks – to work with ambivalence and resistance
Goal – to influence change in the direction of health
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AMBIVALENCE
IS....
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Motivational Interviewing UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS
Acceptance/Potential for Growth
Autonomy/Choice
Less is better
Elicit versus Impart
Michelangelo Belief
Ambivalence is normal
Care-frontation
Unconditional positive regard
Change talk
Righting reflex
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Fundamental Belief
• The capacity and potential for
change and adherence is within
every person!
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O – Open questions
A – Affirmations
R – Reflections
S – Summaries
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Closed Questions sound like…
“Do you…Are you… Did you… Could you…Have you…?”
“Did you get a job yet?” “Do you care about finishing
your studies?” “Did you think before you did
that?” “Do you have a drinking
problem?”
Open-Ended Questions sound like…
“What…. Which…. Where… How… Tell me…”
“How does it feel to be back at work?”
“Where do you think your biggest challenge lies?”
“What do you think you’ll take care of first?”
“Tell me about your relationship with your boss/partner/daughter”
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Affirmations…
• Affirmations are sincere, specific and immediate.
• Affirmations are not cheerleading.
Affirmations
Emphasize a strength
Notice and appreciate a positive action
Should be genuine
Build feelings of empowerment
Instill hope and “can-do” attitude
Express positive regard and caring
Strengthen the coaching relationship
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Reflections
How to Form a Reflection
1. You can reflect the
participant’s…
• speech,
• facial expressions,
• behavior
2. Make a guess about the
deeper meaning (therapeutic
hunch)
How to Form a Reflection (cont.)
3. Capture only the key elements
GOAL: One reflection to each question
4. Make a statement rather than a
question
“You feel…because…”
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A hypothesis (guess) about speaker’s meaning
A statement to convey understanding
Intonation down
Short stems
– “So…”
– “Sounds like…”
– “So you…”
– “Seems like …”
– “Its like…”
– “You feel…”
The summary is like a bouquet of flowers that we give to the
client.
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Set up Bookend:
“Let me see if I have this right…”
“Let me summarize what you’ve said…”
Reflection, Reflection, Reflection
Follow up Bookend:
“So where does that leave you?
“What else would you like to add?”
“Now, tell me about ….”
“Tell me more about…”
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Give the message that the participant is being heard
Allow the participant to add important information
Shift the direction of the interview
Facilitate and guide
Reflect ambivalence
Accentuate “change talk”
Tuning into Change Talk
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Change and Sustain Talk
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Change talk is like gold!
• As Participants speak about change, they begin to see the possibilities
• No pressure or persuasion is needed
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Types of Change Talk:
• Desire I want to…. I’d really like to… I wish…
• Ability I would… I can…. I am able to... I could…
• Reason There are good reasons to…
This is important….
• Need I really need to…
• Commitment I intend to… I will… I plan to…
• Activation I’m ready… I’m able
• Taking Steps I completed my class assignment on time
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DARN CATs
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(Pre-) Action Preparation Contemplation
Yet another metaphor:
MI Hill
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Evoking Change Talk: Desire, Ability, Reason, Need, Commitment
1. Why have you been thinking about changing your ------? (Reveals desire)
2. If you were to change your --------, how would you do it? (Evokes ability)
3. What are your three most important reasons for wanting to change? (Evokes reasons)
4. How would things be different (better) if you decided to change? ( Reveals the need)
5. What is the next step? On a scale of 1-10 , how willing are you to change. (Encourages commitment)
6. Summarize
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What is Resistance? CHANGE TALK SUSTAIN TALK
DISCORD
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Sustain Talk and Discord
Sustain Talk is about the target behavior
I really don’t want to quit smoking
I need my pills to make it through the day
Discord is about your relationship
You can’t make me quit
You don’t understand how hard it is for me
Both are highly responsive to mentor style
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Change-talk Eliciting Strategies
Decisional Balance
Ambivalence is a normal part of the change process
Use ambivalence to promote positive change
Weigh pros and cons of behavior
Increase discrepancy
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Importance/Confidence/Readiness Rulers
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Negotiate a plan of action
• Invite active participation by the Client
• Participant determines goals & priorities
• Participant weighs options
• Together, work out details of the plan
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Giving Information and Advice: 3 Kinds of Permission
1. The participant asks for advice
2. You ask permission to give advice
3. You qualify your advice to emphasize autonomy
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Finalizing the motivational interview
Review the commitment
Review the plan
Set up a new time to meet/follow up
Express encouragement
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ENGAGING: Open the Conversation
• Explain role • State appointment length • Ask permission
EVOKING: Build Motivation •Ask evocative questions
•Encourage elaboration
•Looking back/Looking forward
•Explore/Amplify ambivalence
•Explore goals and values
•Assess importance/confidence
FOCUSING: Negotiate the Agenda
PLANNING: Strengthening Commitment •Brainstorm ideas and opinions
•Negotiate a plan
•Explore barriers
•Identify support
•Elicit final commitment
Close the Encounter: •Summarize the session
•Show appreciation
•Support self-efficacy
•Arrange follow-up as
appropriate
•Link with available resources
Support the Transition: •Recognizing readiness
•Summarizing the big picture
•Ask about next steps
Provide Clinical Feedback •Use visual support materials
•Be clear, succinct, and non-
judgmental
•Compare to norms and
standards
•Elicit Participant's
interpretation
Elicit -
Provide -
Elicit • Education
• Advice
• Feedback
• Skills
• Referral
Clinical
Roadmap
Some EMPath Qualities of a Good Coach
Being Present
Curiosity
Positivity
Honesty
Desire to Learn and Openness to Being Coached
Sense of Humor
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The MI Shift
From feeling responsible for changing participants’ behavior to supporting them in thinking & talking about their own reasons and means for behavior change.
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Source: National Training Laboratory Institute (Alexandria, VA)
Post-Training Knowledge Retention Levels
By Training and Follow-Up Strategy
Training 1-on-1 w/ Feedback & Coaching 90%
75%
50%
30%
20%
10%
5%
Skills Practice
Group Discussion
Demonstration Only
Audio/Visual Presentation
Reading Only
Lecture
Training 1-on-1 w/
Feedback and Coaching
Skills Practice
Group Discussion
Demonstration Only
Audio/Visual
Presentation
Reading Only
Lecture
Post Training Knowledge Retention Levels by Training and Follow-Up Strategy
Phoenix Center is following Implementation Science
Agencies are used to the “Train and Pray” model for learning new skills
Little to no incorporation of new skills into job duties
Building Skills –
Initial live training series
Incorporation of skills into job duties
Coding of recorded conversations
Coaching to competency
Communities of Practice (CoP)
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