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Page 1: Access Node Control Protocol (ANCP) IETF 66, Montreal Wojciech Dec (wdec@cisco.com)wdec@cisco.com Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel.co.uk)

Access Node Control Protocol (ANCP)

IETF 66, MontrealWojciech Dec ([email protected])

Matthew Bocci ([email protected])

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Administrivia

• Blue Sheets

• Note takers + Jabber Scribe

• Mailing List:General Discussion: [email protected]

To Subscribe: [email protected]

In Body: subscribe your_email_address

Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ancp/index.html

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Agenda

• Introduction/agenda tweaking (Chairs)

• Working Group Charter (Chairs - 10 mins)

• ANCP Requirements (Stefaan de Cnodder - 15mins)

• GSMP extensions for layer2 control (L2C) Topology Discovery and Line Configuration (Sanjay Wadhwa - 15 mins)

• ANCP Graceful Restart Mechanism (Sanjay Wadhwa - 10 mins)

• ANCP MIBs (Stefaan de Cnodder - 10 mins)

• Outstanding Work Items (Chairs - 30mins)

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Charter Changes since the BoFhttp://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ancp-charter.html

• Clarified terminology and WG name• Clarified non-goals

– Set-up of VCs or generic Access Node Management.

• Firmed up security objectives• Reliability & Scalability

– Graceful restart– Distribution of functionality

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Revised Milestones

• May 2006 ANCP MIB Last Call • Nov 2006 Accept WG I-D for ANCP Framework

and Requirements • Jan 2007 Accept WG I-D for Access Node Control

Protocol (ANCP) • Jan 2007 Framework and Requirements last call • Mar 2007 Accept WG I-D for ANCP MIB • Apr 2007 Access Node Control Protocol (ANCP)

Last Call • Jul 2007 Re-charter or conclude Working Group

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Mailing list changes

• All subscribers to L2CP mailing list should have been moved to [email protected]

[email protected] has been closed• Please use [email protected] for discussion

relevant to the WG• To subscribe:

– Send mail with subject “subscribe” to [email protected]

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ANCP Requirements / Framework

• Stefaan

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GSMP Extensions

• Sanjay

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ANCP Graceful Restart

• Sanjay

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ANCP MIBs

• Stefaan

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Outstanding Work Items

• Functional Partitioning and multiple controllers

• Light-weight transport protocol

• ANCP Protocol Security

• Multicast control

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Functional Partitioning and multiple controllers

• What are the partitioning capabilities required?– Q1: Controller redundancy? How many redundant controllers?– Q2: Controller functional split?– Q3: Do we envisage both to be required? Eg Redundant controller

for QoS and single controller for OAM– Q4: Is it envisaged that multiple controllers, possibly managed by

different operators, would be controlling the same function?– Q5: How is the “ownership” of a controlled port to be negotiated?– Q6: What are the security implications of functional partitioning

across organisations?

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Light-weight transport protocol

• High level goal is to scale the number of ANCP controlled nodes without compromising the transactional capabilities – Q1: What are the real transport requirements? Do all

ANCP messages and interactions require the same mode of transport and message delivery, eg unicast reliable message delivery?

– Q2: Does the light weight protocol become the long term goal over TCP?

– Q3:Do we look for an existing light-weight transport IETF protocol?

– Q4: Can SCTP be a valid alternative?

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ANCP Protocol Security

• Minimally addressed in the current draft via pre-configured peer IP address based security at the moment.

• Transport protocol security is an option, but this might not be applicable for when an alternative transport is defined or might not cover ANCP risks : – ANCP Protocol security appears to require WG work

• Security requires from a threat model of ANCP and ANCP transport to drive the security requirements.

• Operational considerations also drive some security requirements: ANCP aims to simply operations across organisational boundaries. Use of pre-shared keys could impact such simplification.

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Multicast control

• Multicast control appears to encompass two main functions: – Controlling directly the per port multicast group

replication or multicast data plane filtering on an AN– Reporting to the NAS per port membership and stats

• Use-cases remain to be firmed up• Need to clarify relationship with exiting multicast

techniques and protocols• Input from multicast WGs would be beneficial

– No intention to reinvent the wheel.