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2nd Automotive CFD Prediction

WorkshopMarian Zastawny, Peter Altmann, Sylvain Lardeau

Siemens Digital Industries Software

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Simcenter STAR-CCM+

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Tessellated Surface

Wrapped Surface

Remeshed Surface

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25%

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ALIN

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CORES

Complex Geometry Handling

Speed and Performance

Accurate Physics

Robust and Precise Meshing

Workflow Automation

Intelligent Design Exploration

Turbulence Modelling

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Statistical model (RANS)

SA

1. Standard

2. High-Re

k-e

3. Std.

4. Std. 2-layer

5. Std. low-Re

6. Realizable

7. Real. 2-layer

8. AKN

9. V2-f

10. EB k-e

11. Lag EB k-e

k-w

12. Standard

13. SST

RSM

14. Linear pressure-strain

15. Quad. Pressure-strain

16. EB-RSM

Scale-Resolving

DES

17. SA

18. SST k-w

19. EB k-e

LES

20. Smagorinsky

21. WALE

22. Dynamic Smagorignsky

Cost

Influence of modelling assumptions

Influence of user input

Robustness

Model

High

Low

Why to use SRS in automotive?

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Windsor Body RANS

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Analysed results

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Wall-Modelled RANS

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SST, a1 = 1.0 Lag EB

Wall-Resolved RANS

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SST, a1 = 1.0 Lag EB

RANS Comparison

• Wall-Modelled RANS appears to be closer to

experiment than Wall-Resolved RANS

• SST (a1=1) predicts higher drag coeffcients

• Wake prediction is somewhat correlated with the

reported forces

• Change in velocity profiles is less substantial than

change in drag coefficient

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Windsor Body SRS

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Wall-Modelled DDES

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Wall-Resolved DDES

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DDES Summary

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• Mean flow solution is achieved almost

instantaneously

• Wake prediction is visibly better than in

RANS

• Wall-Modelled mesh simulation appears to

agree more with the experiment

• Agreement in wake prediction is correlated

with the agreement in reported forces

Scale-Resolving Hybrid (SRH) Turbulence Model

Model Description

When to Use it?

Typical Applications

• Increased fidelity unsteady RANS type modeling

• Higher accuracy than comparable URANS models

• Enhanced temporal modeling for increased realism

• Enables potential accuracy improvement to existing URANS

simulations

• Minimal additional computational cost

• Minimal work for setting up

• Mid-fidelity unsteady applications

• Applications where URANS previously was used

Increased fidelity URANS

URANS

SRH

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Wall-Modelled SRH

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Wall-Resolved SRH

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DDES vs SRH

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• Impact of changing the mesh is the same for

SRH as for DDES

• SRH profiles are generally in better

agreement with experiment than DDES

• SRH shows less sensitivity with respect to

the numerical set-up

DrivAer

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Summary

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Forces Comparison

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RANS Scale-Resolved

Open questions

• Impact of time-step

• Impact of numerical discretization

• Impact of the tunnel walls on CL and CM

• Sensitivity to Boundary Conditions

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ContactMarian Zastawny

Senior Application Engineer200 Shepherds Bush Road

W6 7NL London

United Kingdom

E-mail marian.zastawny@siemens.com

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