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CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM

Seminar Part 2b: Cave Men?Seminar Part 2b: Cave Men?

Session 4 of 14.A Creation Seminar

byDr. Kent Hovindc/o 29 Cummings

RoadPensacola, Florida

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Session 4 of 14.A Creation Seminar

byDr. Kent Hovindc/o 29 Cummings

RoadPensacola, Florida

[32503]850-479-3466

www.drdino.comE-mail:

dino@drdino.com

Kent & JoJuly 14,

Pensacola, Florida

Hovind family 1-05

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,

walking after theirown lusts,

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,

walking after theirown lusts,

2 Peter 3:32 Peter 3:3

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all

things continue as they were from the

beginning of the creation.

And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all

things continue as they were from the

beginning of the creation.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God

the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the

water and in the water:

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God

the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the

water and in the water:

And God said, Let there be a

firmament in the midst of the

waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

And God said, Let there be a

firmament in the midst of the

waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Genesis 1:6Genesis 1:6

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament

from the waters which were above the

firmament:and it was so.

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament

from the waters which were above the

firmament:and it was so.

Canopy of water

overhead and water under the crust of

the earth.Pisture courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh

Average age before the

flood was 912 years.

Today, 70-80

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: … So God created man in his

own image, in the image of God created he him;

male and femalecreated he them.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: … So God created man in his

own image, in the image of God created he him;

male and femalecreated he them.

Evolution teaches we are getting better and will one

day be god!

Evolution teaches we are getting better and will one

day be god!

The Bible teaches we were made in God’s image and are

getting worse!

The Bible teaches we were made in God’s image and are

getting worse!

Why do we all pay to teach

the kids this is

grandpa?

That depends on what you mean

by Cave Men? Many peoplein the Bible lived in caves.

Lot and his daughters - Gen. 19:30

The five kings are found hid in a

cave at Makkedah. - Joshua 10:17

The children of Israel madethem the dens which are in

themountains, and caves, andstrong holds. - Judges 6:2

That depends on what you mean

by Cave Men? Many peoplein the Bible lived in caves.

Lot and his daughters - Gen. 19:30

The five kings are found hid in a

cave at Makkedah. - Joshua 10:17

The children of Israel madethem the dens which are in

themountains, and caves, andstrong holds. - Judges 6:2

World’s most

wanted “cave man.”

Former caveman!Former caveman!

Someone is trying to make a

monkey out of you!Aug, 2003

Someone is trying to make a

monkey out of you!Aug, 2003

Chart Available from CSE. $3

www.chick.com

Evolution’s Hall of Shame

This tooth is from the same jaw as

the original “Nebraska Man.”

It is in the Creation Evidence

Museum inGlen Rose, Texas.

One tiny new bone can make an entire new cave man and upset all old theories.

Nebraska Man and

his “wife” as shown

in Illustrated

London News 1922*

“Scientifically” built from

1 tooth!

The Real Nebraska Man

www.chick.com

www.chick.com*

Darwin Theory Proved True?1912

The entire court case is available from Bryan College 423-775-2041.

For a good expose of the errors in the movie Inherit the Wind, call:

George Sarrell 828-684-6232 (w) or 0374 (h)500 Christ School Road, Arden, NC 28704

October 1956 Reader’s Digest reprint of April 1956 Popular Science article

The first one was found in 1856 and classed as 100%

human. More than 300

“Neanderthals” have been found. Joachim Neander

(for whom the valley was named) wrote, “Praise to

the Lord, the Almighty, the King

of Creation.”

www.chick.com

www.chick.com *

Glencoe Biology,

1994 p. 358

Glencoe Biology,

1994 p. 358

Neanderthal finds

13% bigger brain than modern man.Males ave. 5’9”, females 5’3”.

After examining the famous“Rhodesia Man” or Broken Hillman Neanderthal skull, Dr.Cuozzo said, “You mustunderstand that this skull reallycries out disease. The teeth arebadly decayed, and the bones ofthe vault of the skull are extremely thick. There are many features that testify … of acromegaly or excess secretion of growth hormone in adulthood…”p. 72, Available from: CSE, 850-479-3466, $13973-743-7074, drjackcuozzo.com

Average age before the flood was

912 years. Today, 70-80

Average age before the flood was

912 years. Today, 70-80

400 years400 years

200 years200 years

100 years100 years

The brow ridge never stops growing. This size probably indicates an individual over 200 years old.

Dr. Jack Cuozzo, New Jersey 5-05

Dr. Dennis Swift, Beverton, Oregon

Holt Biology 2004, p. 738

Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten lied about the age of Neanderthal skulls and artifacts for 30 years. A university panel exposed his frauds and he resigned Feb. 2005. www.worldnetdaily.com Feb. 19, 2005

The brow ridge never stops growing. This size

probably indicates an individual over 200

years old.

The brow ridge never stops growing. This size

probably indicates an individual over 200

years old.

Aborigine

European

Flathead Indian

Cro-magnon man was

modern in every

respect.Why is he listed as a

missing link?

Cro-magnon man was

modern in every

respect.Why is he listed as a

missing link?

Australopithecus africanus (Taung)

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358

Australopithecus africanus (Taung)

Australopithecus africanus (Tang)Found by Raymond Dart 1924 and proclaimed as an intermediate link between apes and man. In 1973

South African geologist announced that the

cave the skull was found in was no more than ¾ million years old.

This meansthe Taung skull could not be a

missinglink between apes and humans.

See: Bones of Contention

by Marvin Lubenow p. 50

See: omniology.comfor lots more onthe cave men.

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358 *

Pensacola News

Journal Sept. 5,

1999 p. 2a

Pensacola News

Journal Sept. 5,

1999 p. 2a

Johanson had gone to Africa on a grant to find a missing link.

Two weeks before his grant money ran out he found Lucy.

Johanson had gone to Africa on a grant to find a missing link.

Two weeks before his grant money ran out he found Lucy.

LucyLucy in the Sky with DiamondsBeatles

Lucy in the Sky with DiamondsBeatles

Typical Lucy skull shown in textbooks. How do you get such a detailed skull from so few

bones?See National Geographic, March 2000 to see how Lucy was pictured

4 different ways by artists.

ApeLucy?Man

This is not reallyLucy’s knee. It is the Hadar knee

found ayear earlier,70

meters lower and over a mile away.

National Geographic called it

“Lucy” 5 times in the Nov. 1985 issue. P. 593

See: omniology.com for

lots more on the cave men.

Lucy by Donald Johanson

p. 157

Tom Willis, 816-618-3610. Cleveland, MO 64734 CSAHQ@juno.com has loads of

details about this. Www.csama.org *

Tom Willis, 816-618-3610. Cleveland, MO 64734 CSAHQ@juno.com has loads of

details about this. Www.csama.org *

National Geographic Nov. 1985 issue. P. 593National Geographic Nov. 1985 issue. P. 593

ApeLucy?Man

He said the femur was

angled proving

Lucy was becoming a

human.

See: omniology.com for lots more on the cave

Lucy by Donald Johansonp. 157

ApeLucy?Man Man

Lucy’s knee was “slightly bigger” than a regular

ape’s knee.

Lucy by Donald Johansonp. 157

The bones ofa

Clydesdale are

“slightly bigger”

thana regular

horse.

That proves it is

evolving into a truck!

Big Horses and Little

Horses Exist Today

The St. Louis Zoo has Lucy

on display with human feet and

hands.No feet or hand

bones were found.

The purpose of the display is

not for education but

for indoctrination in evolution

theory.

The statue is “a complete misrepresentation.And I believe they knowit is a misrepresentation.”Professor David Menton,Washington University

“Zoo officials have no plans to knuckle under. We cannot be

updating every exhibit based on every new piece of evidence. We

look at the overall exhibit and the impression it creates. We think

the overall impression this exhibitcreates is correct.”

Bruce L.Carr- zoo’s director of education.St. Louis Post Dispatch July 22, 1996, p. 1

The footprints are described as “remarkably similar to those of modern man.” … “The form of his foot was exactly the same

as ours.” … “Weight-bearing pressure patterns

in the prints resemble human ones…”

“footprints, so very muchlike our own,”

Footprints in the Ashes of Time Mary Leakey National Geographic April

1979 p. 446-457.

The footprints are described as “remarkably similar to those of modern man.” … “The form of his foot was exactly the same

as ours.” … “Weight-bearing pressure patterns

in the prints resemble human ones…”

“footprints, so very muchlike our own,”

Footprints in the Ashes of Time Mary Leakey National Geographic April

1979 p. 446-457.

Russel H. Tuttle (U. of Chicago) did themost extensive study of the Laetoli footprints as well as studying thefootprints of more than 70 habitually barefoot people and found, “the 3.5million year old footprint trails atLaetoli site G resemble those ofhabitually unshod modern humans. None of their features suggestthat the Laetoli hominids wereless capable bipeds than we are.”Russell H. Tuttle, “The Pitted Pattern of Laetoli Feet,”Natural History, Mar. 1990: p. 64, quoted in Bones ofContention, p. 174, Available from CSE (850) 479-3466 $13

“If the G [laetoli] footprints were not

known to be soold, we would readily

conclude that they weremade by a member of

ourown genus, homo.”

Russell H. Tuttle, “The Pitted Pattern of Laetoli Feet,”Natural History, Mar. 1990: p. 64, quoted in Bones ofContention, p. 174, Available from CSE (850) 479-3466 $13

“If the G [laetoli] footprints were not

known to be soold, we would readily

conclude that they weremade by a member of

ourown genus, homo.”

Russell H. Tuttle, “The Pitted Pattern of Laetoli Feet,”Natural History, Mar. 1990: p. 64, quoted in Bones ofContention, p. 174, Available from CSE (850) 479-3466 $13

Footprints in the Ashes of Time Mary LeakeyNational Geographic April 1979 p. 446-457.

Why the added toe separation

in the drawing?

Why the added toe separation

in the drawing?

Orangutan foot is designed for graspingOrangutan foot is designed for grasping

“The variousaustralopithecines

are,indeed, more

different from both African Apes and humans in most

features than these latter are from each

other.”Dr. Charles E. Oxnard in Fossils, Teeth and

Sex-NewPerspectives on Human Evolution,

University of Washington, Press, Seattle and London,

1987, p. 149?

“The variousaustralopithecines

are,indeed, more

different from both African Apes and humans in most

features than these latter are from each

other.”Dr. Charles E. Oxnard in Fossils, Teeth and

Sex-NewPerspectives on Human Evolution,

University of Washington, Press, Seattle and London,

1987, p. 149?

Lucy alive

Creation Ex Nihilo Magazine, March-May 1996, p. 8800-350-3232

“Peking Man” was made from pieces of skull found in

the 1920’s in Peking, China. All evidence was lost

in WW II.Most people were never told that the

remains of at least 10 humans were also found with these

“monkey” bones so they could not

possibly be a “missing link.”

Homo erectus

Glencoe Biology, 1994 p. 358Homo erectus

See:omniology.com for lots more on the cave

Holt Biology 2004, p. 736Holt Biology 2004, p. 736

**Dubois had no formal training in geology or

paleontology at the time, and his “archaeological team” consisted of prison convicts with two army

corporals as supervisors.

Dubois had no formal training in geology or paleontology at the time, and his “archaeological team” consisted of prison convicts with two army

corporals as supervisors.

“Java Man” (originally called Pithecanthropus erectus-

meaning erect ape man and now called Homo erectus and

dated by evolutionists at 500,000 years old) was made

from a few scraps of bone found in 1891 in Java,

Indonesia. Dutch anatomist Dr. Dubois (1858-1940) believed in evolution and had gone to Java,

Indonesia to look for missing links between man and apes.

“Java Man” (originally called Pithecanthropus erectus-

meaning erect ape man and now called Homo erectus and

dated by evolutionists at 500,000 years old) was made

from a few scraps of bone found in 1891 in Java,

Indonesia. Dutch anatomist Dr. Dubois (1858-1940) believed in evolution and had gone to Java,

Indonesia to look for missing links between man and apes.

Dubois took an ape’s skull cap, and three human teeth plus a thigh bone (found a year later and 50 feet away) from a human and informed the world

he had found the “missing link.”

For a good expose of the errors in the movie Inherit the Wind, call: George Sarrell 828-684-6232 (w) or

0374 (h)500 Christ School Road, Arden, NC 28704

For a good expose of the errors in the movie Inherit the Wind, call: George Sarrell 828-684-6232 (w) or

0374 (h)500 Christ School Road, Arden, NC 28704

P. 277

Rudolph Virchow, who had once been Haeckel’s

professor and is regarded as the father of modern pathology, said: “In my

opinion, this creature was an animal, a giant gibbon, in fact. The thigh bone has

not the slightest connection with the skull.”

Rudolph Virchow, who had once been Haeckel’s

professor and is regarded as the father of modern pathology, said: “In my

opinion, this creature was an animal, a giant gibbon, in fact. The thigh bone has

not the slightest connection with the skull.”

Tell Tale Heart,

Edgar Allen Poe

He hid the fact that he had also found2 normal human skulls in the same

area.His deceit was revealed 30 years later.

See Bones of Contention p. 86

Dubois took an ape’s skull cap, and three human teeth plus a thigh bone (found a year later and 50 feet (15 M) away) from a human

and informed the world he had found the “missing link.”

“There are notenough fossil

records to answer when, where,and

how homo sapiens

emerged.”Takahata, Molecular anthropology,

AnnualReview of Ecology & Systematics 1995,

p. 355

“Fossil evidence of human evolutionary

history is fragmentary and open to various

interpretations.Fossil evidence of

chimpanzee evolution isabsent altogether.”

Return to the planet of the apes, Henry Gee,Nature Vol. 412, 12 July 2001, p. 131

“Fossil evidence of human evolutionary

history is fragmentary and open to various

interpretations.Fossil evidence of

chimpanzee evolution isabsent altogether.”

Return to the planet of the apes, Henry Gee,Nature Vol. 412, 12 July 2001, p. 131

September 2003September 2003

Where are We Going?Where are We Going?

Straight to Hell if we

don’t accept Christ!

Straight to Hell if we

don’t accept Christ!

A skull found in Spain and promoted as the oldest

example of man in Eurasia was later identified as a four month old donkey

skull fragment. A three day symposium to discuss the “Orce” man, named for the town in southern Spain, was

cancelled.“Ass Taken for Man” Daily Telegraph May 14, 1984

A skull found in Spain and promoted as the oldest

example of man in Eurasia was later identified as a four month old donkey

skull fragment. A three day symposium to discuss the “Orce” man, named for the town in southern Spain, was

cancelled.“Ass Taken for Man” Daily Telegraph May 14, 1984

A dolphin’s rib had been labeled “human

collarbone” and promoted as evidence

for evolution. Evolutionist Tim White

exposed the hoax.I. Anderson, “Humanoid Collarbone

Exposed as Dolphin’s Rib,” New Scientist, April 28, 1983, p. 199

A dolphin’s rib had been labeled “human

collarbone” and promoted as evidence

for evolution. Evolutionist Tim White

exposed the hoax.I. Anderson, “Humanoid Collarbone

Exposed as Dolphin’s Rib,” New Scientist, April 28, 1983, p. 199

Secondary microcephaly dwarfism*.

The first (and so far only) specimens were discovered by a joint Australian-Indonesian team of paleoanthropologists and archaeologists looking on Flores for evidence of the original human migration of H. sapiens from Asia into Australia. They were not expecting to find a new species, and were quite surprised at the recovery of the remains of at least seven individuals of non-H. sapiens, from 38,000 to 13,000 years old,

The first (and so far only) specimens were discovered by a joint Australian-Indonesian team of paleoanthropologists and archaeologists looking on Flores for evidence of the original human migration of H. sapiens from Asia into Australia. They were not expecting to find a new species, and were quite surprised at the recovery of the remains of at least seven individuals of non-H. sapiens, from 38,000 to 13,000 years old, from the Liang Bua limestone cave on Flores. An arm bone, provisionally assigned to H. floresiensis, is about 74,000 years old. Also widely present in this cave are sophisticated stone implements of a size considered appropriate to the 1 m tall human: these are at horizons from 95,000 to 13,000 years and are associated with juvenile Stegodon, presumably the prey of Flores Man.The specimens are not fossilized, but were described in a Nature news article as having "the consistency of wet blotting paper". Researchers hope to find preserved mitochondrial DNA to compare with samples from similarly unfossilised specimens of Homo neanderthalensis and H. sapiens. The likelihood of there being preserved DNA is, however, low, as it degrades more rapidly in warm tropical environments; in such conditions it is known to degrade in as little as a few dozen years.

from the Liang Bua limestone cave on Flores. An arm bone, provisionally assigned to H. floresiensis, is about 74,000 years old. Also widely present in this cave are sophisticated stone implements of a size considered appropriate to the 1 m tall human: these are at horizons from 95,000 to 13,000 years and are associated with juvenile Stegodon, presumably the prey of Flores Man.The specimens are not fossilized, but were described in a Nature news article as having "the consistency of wet blotting paper". Researchers hope to find preserved mitochondrial DNA to compare with samples from similarly unfossilised specimens of Homo neanderthalensis and H. sapiens. The likelihood of there being preserved DNA is, however, low, as it degrades more rapidly in warm tropical environments; in such conditions it is known to degrade in as little as a few dozen years.

All of theso-called

“cave-men” are dealt with in

great detail in this book.

Available from CSE(850) 479-3466

More about cave men in our college course CSE

102 andon www.omniology.com

All of theso-called

“cave-men” are dealt with in

great detail in this book.

Available from CSE(850) 479-3466

More about cave men in our college course CSE

102 andon www.omniology.com

Chart Available

from CSE. $3

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Chart Available

from CSE. $3

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FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(1) In addition to relying on statements of publishers or manufacturers of instructional materials, the

commissioner may conduct or cause to be conducted an independent investigation to determine the

accuracy of state-adopted instructional materials. (2) When errors in state-adopted materials are confirmed, the publisher of the materials shall provide to each district school board that has

purchased the materials the correctionsin a format approved by the commissioner.

(3) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials if he or she finds that the content is in error and the publisher refuses to

correct the errorwhen notified by the department.

(4) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials at the request of the

publisher if, in his or her opinion, there is no material impact on the state’s education goals.

FLORIDA STATUTE 1006.35Accuracy of instructional materials.--

(1) In addition to relying on statements of publishers or manufacturers of instructional materials, the

commissioner may conduct or cause to be conducted an independent investigation to determine the

accuracy of state-adopted instructional materials. (2) When errors in state-adopted materials are confirmed, the publisher of the materials shall provide to each district school board that has

purchased the materials the correctionsin a format approved by the commissioner.

(3) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials if he or she finds that the content is in error and the publisher refuses to

correct the errorwhen notified by the department.

(4) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials at the request of the

publisher if, in his or her opinion, there is no material impact on the state’s education goals.

California Textbooks shall be “factually

accurate and incorporate principles of

instruction reflective of current and

confirmed research.”

California Education Code 60200 (c) 3

California Textbooks shall be “factually

accurate and incorporate principles of

instruction reflective of current and

confirmed research.”

California Education Code 60200 (c) 3

Texas Administrative CodeTitle 19-Education

66.66 (I) “Instructionalmaterials shall present the most factual information

accuratelyand objectively without

editorial opinion or bias by the authors.

Theories shall be clearlydistinguished from facts and

presented in an objective manner.”

Texas Administrative CodeTitle 19-Education

66.66 (I) “Instructionalmaterials shall present the most factual information

accuratelyand objectively without

editorial opinion or bias by the authors.

Theories shall be clearlydistinguished from facts and

presented in an objective manner.”

Wisconsin Administrative Code

361 Rule

The criteria for selection

of textbooks…shall be:

3. Factual accuracy

Wisconsin Administrative Code

361 Rule

The criteria for selection

of textbooks…shall be:

3. Factual accuracy

Ala. Code 1975, Section16-36-70 “Adequate

textbooks” - provides: “(b) All students in the

public schools shall be provided

with adequate and currenttextbooks…” One might argue

that textbooks that containstatements and examples that

areproven to be false and

fraudulentare neither adequate nor

current.

Ala. Code 1975, Section16-36-70 “Adequate

textbooks” - provides: “(b) All students in the

public schools shall be provided

with adequate and currenttextbooks…” One might argue

that textbooks that containstatements and examples that

areproven to be false and

fraudulentare neither adequate nor

current.

8700.7500 Code of Ethics forMinnesota TeachersSubpart

2. Standards Professional Conduct.

G. A teacher shall not deliberately suppress

ordistort subject matter.

Code of Ethics For MinnesotaTeachers, Minnesota Board of Teaching,

2000.board.teaching@state.mn.us

8700.7500 Code of Ethics forMinnesota TeachersSubpart

2. Standards Professional Conduct.

G. A teacher shall not deliberately suppress

ordistort subject matter.

Code of Ethics For MinnesotaTeachers, Minnesota Board of Teaching,

2000.board.teaching@state.mn.us

Outdated teachings still in textbooks!

Glenco Biology 1995

P. 473

Outdated teachings still in textbooks!

Glenco Biology 1995

P. 473

False info still presented at Mankato State University in MN! (and just about every other

university in the world.)www.anthro.mankato.msus.edu

False info still presented at Mankato State University in MN! (and just about every other

university in the world.)www.anthro.mankato.msus.edu

sapien

Professing themselves to be wise,

they became fools.

Professing themselves to be wise,

they became fools.

Romans 1:22

This is silly!

They don’t know that he is the daddy of anybody. Daily Mail June 12,

This is silly!

They don’t know that he is the daddy of anybody. Daily Mail June 12,

Articles like this appear every few weeks in

the paper.In order for

propaganda towork it must berepeated often.

Articles like this appear every few weeks in

the paper.In order for

propaganda towork it must berepeated often.

Smithsonian Nov. 2003 p. 44

If you find a fossil in the dirt:

All you know is, it died!All you know is, it died!

If you find a fossil in the dirt:You don’t know if it had any kids.

You sure don’t know that it produced different kids.

Why do evolutionists claim the bones in

the dirt can do something the living animals cannot do?

(produce different kinds than themselves)

No fossil would count as evidence in a court of law.

Similar design demonstrates a

common designer.

You sure don’t know that it produced different kids.

Why do evolutionists claim the bones in

the dirt can do something the living animals cannot do?

(produce different kinds than themselves)

No fossil would count as evidence in a court of law.

Similar design demonstrates a

common designer.

Where does the “Stone Age” fit into

the Bible?

Where does the “Stone Age” fit into

the Bible?

1996 p. 3071996 p. 307

(Israel)

The people after the flood could not go to the

hardware store to buy a hammer or shovel.

There were no hardware stores!

FloodFlood

The “Stone Age” was after the flood when they got off

the ark and faced a devastated world and some bad people were

banished-driven out from society.

The “Stone Age” was after the flood when they got off

the ark and faced a devastated world and some bad people were

banished-driven out from society.

Many cultures today make and use stone

tools.Many cultures today make and use stone

tools.

Not only were the people

living longer before the

flood,the animals were also.

*** Rhinoceros (18feet tall)

Rhinoceros 18 feet (5.5M) tall

University of Nebraska Museum

old dictionaries 1860 w/o “prehistoric”17661766

No “Prehistoric”No “Prehistoric”

1860 Webster’

s Dictionar

No word “Prehistoric”

1892 Webster’s CommonSchool Dictionary

No word “Prehistoric”

A canopy of water overhead would increase air pressure which allows

insects to grow larger. They breath through their skin.

Today’s bugs are limited in

size by the amount of

Oxygen and the air pressure.

Highlights for Children p. 8, May 2001

Today’s bugs are limited in

size by the amount of

Oxygen and the air pressure.

Highlights for Children p. 8, May 2001

Bugs growing

in oxygen rich

waters grow “up to 1000 times

heavier than those

living off Europe!”

Bugs growing

in oxygen rich

waters grow “up to 1000 times

heavier than those

living off Europe!”

sideside Volume

Volume

Surface areaSurface area

Surface area to Volume

ratio11 11 66 6 to 16 to 1

22 88 2424 3 to 13 to 1

33 2727 5454 2 to 12 to 1.1.1 .001.001 .06.06 60 to 160 to 1

.01.01.000001.000001.0006.0006600 to 1600 to 1

As an object gets larger it has less surface area (skin) compared to its volume. This is why huge insects can’t breathe in today’s

atmosphere.

As an object gets larger it has less surface area (skin) compared to its volume. This is why huge insects can’t breathe in today’s

atmosphere.

A 50 inch (1.27M)

wingspan dragonfly fossil was found in

Italy.Www.creationevidence.o

A 50 inch (1.27M)

wingspan dragonfly fossil was found in

Italy.Www.creationevidence.o

Madagascar Giant Hissing Cockroach - Adult Male

(Gromphadorhina portentosa) http://lonestar.texas.net/~rtremper/roach.html

Madagascar Giant Hissing Cockroach - Adult Male

(Gromphadorhina portentosa) http://lonestar.texas.net/~rtremper/roach.html

Cockroach fossils over 18 inches (45cm) long have been

found!

Cockroach fossils over 18 inches (45cm) long have been

found!

A fossil centipede

8.5 feet (2.6m) long has been

found.

A fossil centipede

8.5 feet (2.6m) long has been

found.

Aug. 28, 1999 DTAug. 28, 1999 DT

2 foot grasshopper2 foot grasshopperFossils of

grasshoppers over 2 feet long (60cm) have been found.More on giant insects in seminar part

Fossil of giant tarantulaHighlights for Children p. 9, May 2001

Fossil cattails

60 feet long (18.3m) have been found

in sedimentar

y rock.

A donkey was excavated near Lubbock, Texas that was 9 feet (2.75 m) high at the shoulder!

Giant sloths lived

on earth before the

flood!

Giant sloths lived

on earth before the

flood!

Fossil Buffalo horns have been found with a 12 foot span! (3.7m) This 8 foot horn core is in Joe Taylor’s museum. Www.mtblanco.com

Giant Elk

with 12 foot (3.7M) antlers lived on

earth.

Giant Elk

with 12 foot (3.7M) antlers lived on

earth.

“A remarkable cache of prehistoric marsupial remains, including giant lions, 10ft-tall (3.4 M) kangaroos and a wombat the size of a Mini, has been unearthed in remote caves in the Australian outback.Wombat the size of a Mini unearthed By Barbie Dutter in Sydney (Filed: 31/07/2002)

“A remarkable cache of prehistoric marsupial remains, including giant lions, 10ft-tall (3.4 M) kangaroos and a wombat the size of a Mini, has been unearthed in remote caves in the Australian outback.

How the giant kangaroo would dwarf a 6ft man. Scientists described it as “the find of the century” amid growing excitement that the fossils, entombed in perfect condition for up to 1.5 million years, may include previously undiscovered species of Australian megafauna.

The haul contains the first complete skeleton of a marsupial lion called Thylacoleo carnifex and the remains of the world’s largest kangaroo, Procoptodon goliah.”

Wombat the size of a Mini unearthed By Barbie Dutter in Sydney (Filed:

31/07/2002)

“A remarkable cache of prehistoric marsupial remains, including giant lions, 10ft-tall (3.4 M) kangaroos and a wombat the size of a Mini, has been unearthed in remote caves in the Australian outback.

How the giant kangaroo would dwarf a 6ft man. Scientists described it as “the find of the century” amid growing excitement that the fossils, entombed in perfect condition for up to 1.5 million years, may include previously undiscovered species of Australian megafauna.

The haul contains the first complete skeleton of a marsupial lion called Thylacoleo carnifex and the remains of the world’s largest kangaroo, Procoptodon goliah.”

Wombat the size of a Mini unearthed By Barbie Dutter in Sydney (Filed:

31/07/2002)

Sept. 18, 2003Sept. 18, 2003

“...Dinornis maximus, which, reaching a height of 13 feet…(4m)”

Strange Stories, Amazing Facts p. 246Readers Digest

Elephant bird egg in

Ripley’s Museum,

St. Augustine, FL 11-04

Elephant bird egg in

Ripley’s Museum,

St. Augustine, FL 11-04

Ostrich egg

Giant gander found in Australia

David Fickling in Sydney, Friday August 16, 2002 The Guardian

Scientists in central Australia have discovered fossils of a giant prehistoric goose which stood as tall as an elephant and weighed up to half a tonne. The flightless birds are thought to have browsed on leaves, fruit and seed pods, although some scientists say their powerful beaks could have been used to eat meat.

They have been named dromornithids - running birds - because of their apparent agility. Most appear to have had springing ligaments in their legs similar to those found in horses, and unlike modern ostriches and emus, the huge dromornithids balanced on horse-like hooves.

One of the geese discovered is thought to have lived in Australia until 35,000 years ago, well after first humans arrived on the continent. But there is no evidence yet that they were hunted by early Aborigines. “You would instinctively have stayed miles away from them,” said Peter Murray of the Museum of Central Australia in Alice Springs. “They were big and agile and had nasty beaks. Some of the bigger ones could easily have sheared your hand off with a bite.”

Giant gander found in Australia

David Fickling in Sydney, Friday August 16, 2002 The Guardian

Scientists in central Australia have discovered fossils of a giant prehistoric goose which stood as tall as an elephant and weighed up to half a tonne. The flightless birds are thought to have browsed on leaves, fruit and seed pods, although some scientists say their powerful beaks could have been used to eat meat.

They have been named dromornithids - running birds - because of their apparent agility. Most appear to have had springing ligaments in their legs similar to those found in horses, and unlike modern ostriches and emus, the huge dromornithids balanced on horse-like hooves.

One of the geese discovered is thought to have lived in Australia until 35,000 years ago, well after first humans arrived on the continent. But there is no evidence yet that they were hunted by early Aborigines. “You would instinctively have stayed miles away from them,” said Peter Murray of the Museum of Central Australia in Alice Springs. “They were big and agile and had nasty beaks. Some of the bigger ones could easily have sheared your hand off with a bite.”

8 foot beaver8 foot beaverFossils of beavers over 8 feet long (2.4 m) have been

found.

Fossils of beavers over 8 feet long (2.4 m) have been

found.

beaver jaw

Found by Jim Erb 920-699-2516 in JohnsonCreek, Wisconsin. I met him 10-9-98.

Jaw of 7-8 foot beaver!

Beaver skull from Ohio, est. 6’ (2 m) longBeaver skull from Ohio, est. 6’ (2 m) long

5 ½ - 8”

15-20 cm

5 ½ - 8”

15-20 cm

SALAMANDERS OVER 6 (2m) FEET LONGSALAMANDERS OVER 6 (2m) FEET LONG

A canopy of water overhead would increase air pressure which puts more air into the water and allows more and bigger fish to

live per cubic mile.

646 lb catfish caught in Thailand June, 2005

1” shark tooth @ 15 feet

(4.5 M) of shark.1 cm= 1.8M

Sharks were 80+ feet (25M) long before the

flood!

Sharks were 80+ feet (25M) long before the

flood!

Creation Magazine March, 01, p. 50

Ripley Museum St. Augustine, FL

Creation Magazine March, 01, p. 50

Ripley Museum St. Augustine, FL

The pre-flood probably had a much stronger magnetic field.

The pre-flood probably had a much stronger magnetic field. Dr. Baugh is raising pirhana in an aquarium with greatly increased magnetic field.

Dr. Baugh is raising pirhana in an aquarium with greatly increased magnetic field.

Dr. Baugh has been raising Pirhana 4 times larger than normal by simulating pre-flood

conditions.

Yale Museum, New Haven, ConnecticutYale Museum, New Haven, Connecticut

Oysters 11.5 feet

wide! (3.5 M)Express

Times 3-2-01

p. A-2, 1 800 360 3601

Eastern PA.

Oysters 11.5 feet

wide! (3.5 M)Express

Times 3-2-01

p. A-2, 1 800 360 3601

Eastern PA.

Daily American Republic

Friday, March 2, 2001 Poplar Bluff, Missouri

Daily American Republic

Friday, March 2, 2001 Poplar Bluff, Missouri

300 KG300 KG

Holt Modern Earth Science, 1983, p. 207

450 (700 km) miles to the beach!

Clams open when they die.

“The biggestpterosaur flying over

the inland sea is Pteranodon. Like all

reptiles, it grows throughout its life…”Holt Earth Science, 1991, p. 293

“The biggestpterosaur flying over

the inland sea is Pteranodon. Like all

reptiles, it grows throughout its life…”Holt Earth Science, 1991, p. 293

Iguana

Lizard picture

Jackson Chameleon

Triceratops

Dinosaur means terrible lizard.

Dr. Cabrera holding human vertebrae (5th lumbar) found in “cretaceous sediment” in

Ocucaja Desert, Ica,

Peru. Man and dinosaurs

lived together.The message of the Engraved Stones of Ica by Dr. Cabrera

Dr. Cabrera holding human vertebrae (5th lumbar) found in “cretaceous sediment” in

Ocucaja Desert, Ica,

Peru. Man and dinosaurs

lived together.The message of the Engraved Stones of Ica by Dr. Cabrera

Evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together has been found in: Russia, Lagoa Santa, Brazil; Matto Grosso, Brazil, Ica, Peru;

Glen Rose, Texas and Charleston, SC.

Dinosaur and humanlike footprints have been

found together in Turkmenia and in Arizona.

See: Alexander Romashko, “Tracking Dinosaurs,” Moscow News, No. 24, 1983, p. 10. Paul O. Rosnau et al., “Are Human and Mammal Tracks Found Together with the Tracks of Dinosaurs in the Kayenta of

Arizona?” Parts I and II, Creation Research Society Quarterly, Vol. 26,

September 1989, pp. 41–48 and December 1989, pp. 77–98.

Noah to Abram, the Turbulent Years by Dr. Erich von Fange, p. 36-37

Evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together has been found in: Russia, Lagoa Santa, Brazil; Matto Grosso, Brazil, Ica, Peru;

Glen Rose, Texas and Charleston, SC.

Dinosaur and humanlike footprints have been

found together in Turkmenia and in Arizona.

See: Alexander Romashko, “Tracking Dinosaurs,” Moscow News, No. 24, 1983, p. 10. Paul O. Rosnau et al., “Are Human and Mammal Tracks Found Together with the Tracks of Dinosaurs in the Kayenta of

Arizona?” Parts I and II, Creation Research Society Quarterly, Vol. 26,

September 1989, pp. 41–48 and December 1989, pp. 77–98.

Noah to Abram, the Turbulent Years by Dr. Erich von Fange, p. 36-37

Fossil human hands found in “cretaceous” rock near a large Ichthyosaurus (marine dinosaur) by Dr. Jamie Gutierrez in South America. Info and

more pictures at www.creationevidence.org

Fossil human hands found in “cretaceous” rock near a large Ichthyosaurus (marine dinosaur) by Dr. Jamie Gutierrez in South America. Info and

more pictures at www.creationevidence.org

According to New Scientist, 24

February, 2001, p. 13.Researchers found

several types of dinosaur and were

surprised to find frog, fish, turtle, small

mammal and plant fossils as well.

According to New Scientist, 24

February, 2001, p. 13.Researchers found

several types of dinosaur and were

surprised to find frog, fish, turtle, small

mammal and plant fossils as well.

Pre-Inca Indian riding dinosaurPre-Inca Indianriding a dinosaur

Pre-Inca Indianriding a dinosaur

This Icastone found in Peru is

of about 11,000

in Dr. Cabrera’

s museum

in Ica, Peru.

This Icastone found in Peru is

of about 11,000

in Dr. Cabrera’

s museum

in Ica, Peru.

Dr. Baugh has two of the stones, some textiles and a great video

about the Ica area. 254-897-3200 or Don Patton, 813 Trails Pkwy,

Garland, TX 75043, 972-279-5325, dpatton693@aol.com

Dr. Baugh has two of the stones, some textiles and a great video

about the Ica area. 254-897-3200 or Don Patton, 813 Trails Pkwy,

Garland, TX 75043, 972-279-5325, dpatton693@aol.com

Over 50,000 “ICA stones” have been found in Peru since 1961.

Much more about the Ica Stones on seminar part 3 and 2005 Boot

Camp DVD’s

Much more about the Ica Stones on seminar part 3 and 2005 Boot

Camp DVD’s

map to Glenrose, Texas

Puluxy River Dr. Baugh’s pink book

“dinosaur” tues -Fri 10-4 817-897-3200

Limestone layers in Paluxy River, TexasDinosaur, by Dr. Carl

2 feet of limestone picture “””

Dinosaur, by Dr. Carl Baugh creationevidence.org

Dino footprints in limestone - Park book

Location: Dinosaur Valley State Park, Glen Rose, Texas

chiseled out tracks “””

Dinosaur Valley State Park, Glen Rose, Texas

Tommy Pendle

y photo

from cover of Dinosaur Valley State Park

In 1930 Roland T. Bird, field explorer for the

American Field Museum, reported 15-20 (50 cm) inch long

“clearly defined” human footprints with the dinosaur tracks.

Photo from Valley of the Giants,

by Dr. Cecil Dougherty p. 4

(Dr Dougherty was a chiropractor in Glen Rose for

17 years and spent thousands of hours studying

and photographing thehuman tracks there.)

“Much to my surprise, the book documents literally

hundreds, not just a handful, of well-exposed dinosaur

tracksites spread all over the world.”

“Tracks, trackways, nests, eggs and coprolites of the

reptilian masters of the Mesozoic are chronicled from

all over the world, and the record is an impressive one – indeed, in terms of not only abundance and geographic distribution but also quality

of preservation.”Ekdale, A. A., “Dinosaur Tracks and

Traces”

“Much to my surprise, the book documents literally

hundreds, not just a handful, of well-exposed dinosaur

tracksites spread all over the world.”

“Tracks, trackways, nests, eggs and coprolites of the

reptilian masters of the Mesozoic are chronicled from

all over the world, and the record is an impressive one – indeed, in terms of not only abundance and geographic distribution but also quality

of preservation.”Ekdale, A. A., “Dinosaur Tracks and

Traces”

“Lockley and Gillette report more than 400 dinosaur

tracksites in North and South America alone, and they especially note 12 ‘large’

localities around the world that contain more than 1000 individual tracks and/or more

than 100different trackways each.”Ekdale, A. A., “Dinosaur Tracks and Traces,” review of

symposium Dinosaur Tracks and Traces, edited by D. D. Gillette and

M. G. Lockley (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1989, Palaios,)

(April 1990), p. 199Gorie Carpenter 5170 Ches Ln. Kernersville, NC 27284 336-

996-3439 owns property in VA with over 1000 dinosaur tracks.

“Lockley and Gillette report more than 400 dinosaur

tracksites in North and South America alone, and they especially note 12 ‘large’

localities around the world that contain more than 1000 individual tracks and/or more

than 100different trackways each.”Ekdale, A. A., “Dinosaur Tracks and Traces,” review of

symposium Dinosaur Tracks and Traces, edited by D. D. Gillette and

M. G. Lockley (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1989, Palaios,)

(April 1990), p. 199Gorie Carpenter 5170 Ches Ln. Kernersville, NC 27284 336-

996-3439 owns property in VA with over 1000 dinosaur tracks.

In 1884, Earl Flint, a geologist representing the Peabody

Museum and Harvard University, discovered in

a rock quarry near Managua,Nicaragua, on the shores of

Lake Gilva, a layer containing fossilized human tracks, 16 to

24 feet below the surface.Flint described the tracks in

these words, written in 1884:

In 1884, Earl Flint, a geologist representing the Peabody

Museum and Harvard University, discovered in

a rock quarry near Managua,Nicaragua, on the shores of

Lake Gilva, a layer containing fossilized human tracks, 16 to

24 feet below the surface.Flint described the tracks in

these words, written in 1884:

“The footprints are from one-half to three inches in depth and none exceeded eighteen inches. Some of the impressions are nearly closed, the soft surface falling back into the

impression, and a crevice about two inches in width is all one sees, and my first glance at

some parallel to one less deep, gave me an idea that the owner of the latter was using a stave

to assist him in walking. In some the substance flowed outward, leaving a ridge around it - seen

in one secured for the museum; the stride is variable, owing to the size of the person, and

the changing nature of the surface passed over. The longest one uncovered was seventeen

inches, length of foot ten inches, and width four inches, feet arched, steps in a right line,

measured from center of heel to center of great toe over three steps.

The people making them were going both ways in a direction consonant to that of the present

lakeshore east and west, more or less.”