transcends science contadicts science agrees with science

TRANSCENDS SCIENCE

CONTADICTS SCIENCE

AGREES WITH

SCIENCE

SCRIPTURAL WISDOM

3 Possibilities in contradiction

1. Science is WrongEx: Darwinian Evolution

2. Science is IncompleteEx: Big-Bang

3. Science & Vedas Observe from different Scales

Ex: Vedic Cosmology

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How Are They Diverging

Misinterpretation of Data

Is there Something beyond Science?

World Of Science (Gross Material Reality)

Reality. Ex: Mind, Emotions, Soul, God

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How Are They Diverging

Operating Platform

Spirit

Subtle

Gross

SCIENCE SPIRITUALITY

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How Are They Diverging

Operating Platform

Spirit

Subtle

Gross

SCIENCE SPIRITUALITY

PROGRESS OF KNOWLEDGE

SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE

BEYOND KNOWLEDGE

BEYOND KNOWLEDGE SCIENCE

GOD

BOUNDARY (INTERFACE)

KNOWLEDGE IS …

GOD

SCIENCE

SCIENCE

POROUS …KNOWLEDGE IS

Based on

AssumptionsAxioms

Leads to

Incomplete understanding

… AND IMPERFECT

GOD

SCIENCE

Silent about

ExistencePurposeValue

Faith and inquiry can

Coexist Complement

Reinforce

The Moon Mission-A Vedic Perspective

White Chalk Powder + (mix) Black Charcoal Powder

=Grey powder

+ =

Same Grey Powder under microscope

Appears as

White + Black Particles

=

Which is real??????

Vedic cosmology - two main sourcesPuranas – divine perspective

Jyotisha Shaastras – human perspective- astronomical siddhanta – similar to info in modern cosmology

Surya siddhanta- 253,000 miles

Modern measurement – 252,710 miles

Earth’s dia – 7840 miles compared to modern measurement of 7926.7 miles

Similarly we can’t know for sure where the astronauts went as Vedic scriptures say Chandraloka is higher dimensional planet for higher living beings.

Math book says 3+3=6.3+3≠6 surely wrong

THREE POSSIBILITIES

1.3 D can have 2 D projectionSimilarly space crafts cannot take us more

than 3 D.

So astronauts –may – in 3 D projection of Chandraloka but not experience its higher dimension- residents, heavenly opulences etc.,

If a person moves his finger from Pune to Mumbai in the map he does not experience the people and the skysrapers.

3. Could not have gone at all !!!!

2. High-tech diversion by demigods.

Where modern cosmology falls

short??

Scientific technology works – cellphones,internet etc.,

Spiritual technology works – eg-mantra meditation

Different things work at different levels

Goal – improve external comforts and control –then scienceGoal – to improve internal life – then spi technology

A quote from Noble Laureate Nobel physicist Erwin Schrodinger

‘I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously.’

Our birth, beauty, intelligence… cannot be explained by science

•Science cannot even explain life on this planet.•It says life comes from chemicals but cannot demonstrate.

It cannot explain how

and why

life arises?

Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, in his book Ignited Minds, quotes Albert Einstein recalling Werner Heisenberg’s words to him: ‘You know in the West we have built a large, beautiful ship. It has all the comforts in it, but one thing is missing: it has no compass and does not know where to go.’

More complete

Cosmology

Book Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy – by Dr. Richard L.Thompson – scientist disciple of Srila Prabhupada

Classical Physics – compatible with quantum physics in the domain it was originally applied.

Similarly Vedic cosmology- compatible with modern cosmology with regards to astronomical measurements

and Complete due to its ability to account for higher-dimensional cosmic realms, higher living beings and ultimately the higher purpose of life.

Vedic cosmology – theistic and spiritual - we are spiritual beings - we are on cosmic journey through

many ,many bodies in different parts of the cosmos.

-we are children of Supreme Being

Cosmos – created and controlled by God

Cosmos – created and controlled by God through assistants

called demigods of

which Soma, presiding deity of moon is one.

Humility – required in approaching works of God like cosmos.

We cannot expect to conquer the cosmos with our intellect and dominate it for our ends.

This vain attitude will lead only to bafflement. Eg – non- devotional approach of scholars.

A good example of a devotional attitude to

cosmic research is the following quote of Johannes Kepler: “I have endeavored to gain for human reason, aided by geometrical calculation, an insight into His way of creation; may the Creator of the heavens themselves, the father of all reason, to whom our mortal senses owe their existence, may He who is Himself immortal… keep me in His grace and guard me from reporting anything about His work which cannot be justified before His magnificence or which may misguide our powers of reason, and may He cause us to aspire to the perfection of His works of creation by the dedication of our lives.”

THE ULTIMATE COSMIC FLIGHT

Vedic culture – not against cosmic travel…….

- become transcendental cosmonauts and fly beyond moon , sun, entire universe to spiritual world(our eternal home).

Is sun closer to earth than moon?

Vedic(Puranic literature) –•based on evolution of consciousness of the residents of the cosmos• vertical dimension(unknown to modern science)•Places planets in hierarchy according to the level of their consciousness

Consider three flats…..

•Flat A (ground floor)

• Flat B(20th floor of the next building)

• Flat C(3rd floor of another building far away from Flat A)

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DIAGONALLY

VERTICALLYFlat C is much closer to Flat A

Flat C is farther away from Flat A than Flat B.

On the basis of hierarchy of consciousness

Flat A is like EarthFlat B is like MoonFlat C is like Sun

Modern Science – super speculative w.r.t cosmology

Vedic understanding –

•intellectually coherent•holistic and •based on higher dimensional perspective

HARIBOL!!!!!Thank you very much