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dhic button phot o LOOK MA, no sidewalks — but who needs boots when you can use all those nifty bridges from mud to puddle, or even (for adventurous) from puddle ; to mud. the pric e we protest "I like to teach and I have no intention of giving i t up," said Dr . Kenneth Hare on Tuesday . Hare is giving two lectures to each section of G graphy 101, this week . Hare said he would like to teach a section of Geo- graphy 101, but that he doesn't have enough time to do so . Hare is lecturing on "Regional Climatology of Nort h America" . He said he may give more lectures during th e winter . "Teaching is good for you," he said . "It clears the mind and keeps you fit . " Hare's book, The Restless Atmosphere, is used as a supplementary textbook in Geography 101 . ka2» : .< .a<a .ME&w: s"SW: M: . :a,:<z:: .«c :<, :. : . .z,;sMOMM'::a` .tW' :aMx :MESrv s h < Beer garden ticket s to go on sale Frida y "The time has come," the ombudsman said, "to talk o f many things . Of cabbages, kings and beer garden tickets . " Ombudsman Rob Gilchrist announced Tuesday that I D - . tickets for the beer garden will be on sale starting 11 a .m . Friday in his office across from the SUB information desk . The tickets will cost $1 and are obtainable by presentin g suitable pieces of ID, one of which must be your AMS card . They will carry the photograph of the bearer to ensur e there will be no faking ID . Location of the garden will be the party room, startin g Thursday, Nov . 21, from 3 p.m . to 11 p .m . until the south - . west corner of the SUB basement is finished, when the bee r garden will take up permanent residence there, 228-2305 Vol . L, No. 2 7 Protest ha s a price but VANCOUVER, B .C ., WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 196 8 AMS pays toke n prof-pad damage s Council isn't going to pay for more tha n $6,000 damage done to the faculty club durin g the Oct . 24-25 sit-in . In a letter to council, faculty club boar d chairman David Huberman, asked for $6,122 .6 1 to repair or replace such items as "one broke n W .C . $190 ; one missing 18" by 24" teak coffee table $65, and two Mark IV cigars 80 cents . "We have no legal obligation to pay fo r this damage . However, in the interest of good- will, we should give them a few hundred dol- lars," said law president Peter Braund. Internal affairs officer Ruth Dworkin sai d the estimate was too high. "Some of the items they have listed ar e ridiculous. I don't think anyone could walk of f with 15 dozen terry towels ($66 .15) . "I would like to know when the last in- ventory was taken at the faculty club . Muc h of the damage and theft could have happene d before the sit-in," she said . Council also discussed the validity of the Canadian Union of Students . Stuart Clark, arts 3, told council that CU S was no longer relevant to U13C . "We are spending $13,500 a year on CU S and we are getting very little in return . Edu- cation is a provincial matter and CUS is no t relevant . Most people don't know what CU S does," he said . CUS field worker Jim Russell said CUS i s still relevant to local university problems . "Education is very much a federal concern . Eighty per cent of financing is provided by the federal government—student loans for example . CUS was responsible for the lobbying that le d to the student loan and tax exemption bills, " he said . Arts rep Ralph Stanton was concerned tha t the anti-CUS movement was a political one . "The argument that we spend too much i s meaningless . Clark opposes CUS because it i s a progressive political body . If CUS was con- servative he wouldn't be here," he said. Braund supported CUS . "A national student union is essential . CUS was the prime mover behind the student loa n lobby, and they provide specific services suc h as insurance and travel plans . "They also help with specific local issues . CUS is relevant to local problems that may have no meaning to other universities," he said . Treasurer Donn Aven amused himself dur- ing the CUS debate by chuckling with engineer- ing president Fraser Hodge over pictures o f bare breasted cuties in nursing rep Jennife r Johnson's copy of Playboy. In other news, council : Approved a $750,000 loan for addition s to the winter sports center ; Referred a request from the Industrial Education Teach Training Student Associatio n for a $500 grant to the finance committee .

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— dhic button photo

LOOK MA, no sidewalks — but who needs boots when you can use all those nifty bridges from mud to puddle, or even (for adventurous) from puddle; to mud.

the price

we protest

"I like to teach and I have no intention of giving i tup," said Dr. Kenneth Hare on Tuesday .

Hare is giving two lectures to each section of Ggraphy 101, this week .

Hare said he would like to teach a section of Geo-graphy 101, but that he doesn't have enough time to do so .

Hare is lecturing on "Regional Climatology of Nort hAmerica" . He said he may give more lectures during th ewinter .

"Teaching is good for you," he said . "It clears the mindand keeps you fit . "

Hare's book, The Restless Atmosphere, is used as asupplementary textbook in Geography 101 .

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Beer garden ticketsto go on sale Friday

"The time has come," the ombudsman said, "to talk o fmany things . Of cabbages, kings and beer garden tickets . "

Ombudsman Rob Gilchrist announced Tuesday that I D- . tickets for the beer garden will be on sale starting 11 a .m .

Friday in his office across from the SUB information desk .The tickets will cost $1 and are obtainable by presenting

suitable pieces of ID, one of which must be your AMS card .They will carry the photograph of the bearer to ensure

there will be no faking ID .Location of the garden will be the party room, startin g

Thursday, Nov. 21, from 3 p.m. to 11 p .m. until the south -. west corner of the SUB basement is finished, when the bee rgarden will take up permanent residence there,

228-2305Vol . L, No. 27

Protest has

a price but

VANCOUVER, B .C., WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1968

AMS pays tokenprof-pad damage s

Council isn't going to pay for more than$6,000 damage done to the faculty club duringthe Oct . 24-25 sit-in .

In a letter to council, faculty club boardchairman David Huberman, asked for $6,122 .6 1to repair or replace such items as "one brokenW.C. $190; one missing 18" by 24" teak coffeetable $65, and two Mark IV cigars 80 cents .

"We have no legal obligation to pay forthis damage . However, in the interest of good-will, we should give them a few hundred dol-lars," said law president Peter Braund.

Internal affairs officer Ruth Dworkin saidthe estimate was too high.

"Some of the items they have listed areridiculous. I don't think anyone could walk offwith 15 dozen terry towels ($66 .15) .

"I would like to know when the last in-ventory was taken at the faculty club . Muchof the damage and theft could have happenedbefore the sit-in," she said.

Council also discussed the validity of theCanadian Union of Students .

Stuart Clark, arts 3, told council that CUSwas no longer relevant to U13C .

"We are spending $13,500 a year on CU Sand we are getting very little in return . Edu-cation is a provincial matter and CUS is no trelevant . Most people don't know what CUSdoes," he said .

CUS field worker Jim Russell said CUS isstill relevant to local university problems .

"Education is very much a federal concern .

Eighty per cent of financing is provided by thefederal government—student loans for example .CUS was responsible for the lobbying that le dto the student loan and tax exemption bills, "he said .

Arts rep Ralph Stanton was concerned thatthe anti-CUS movement was a political one .

"The argument that we spend too much i smeaningless . Clark opposes CUS because it isa progressive political body . If CUS was con-servative he wouldn't be here," he said.

Braund supported CUS .

"A national student union is essential . CUSwas the prime mover behind the student loanlobby, and they provide specific services suc has insurance and travel plans.

"They also help with specific local issues .CUS is relevant to local problems that mayhave no meaning to other universities," he said .

Treasurer Donn Aven amused himself dur-ing the CUS debate by chuckling with engineer-ing president Fraser Hodge over pictures ofbare breasted cuties in nursing rep Jennife rJohnson's copy of Playboy.

In other news, council :

• Approved a $750,000 loan for additionsto the winter sports center ;

• Referred a request from the Industrial

Education Teach Training Student Associationfor a $500 grant to the finance committee .

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T H E

UBYSSEY

Wednesday, November 13, 1968

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OLD PRESIDENTS never die — they just strike out in the tenth frame .

VCC discrimination alleged;SFU picket-protest planned

Vancouver City College and other B .C. stu-dents plan to picket the Simon Fraser Univer-sity registrar's office Thursday noon to protes twhat they allege are unfair selection and ad-mission procedures .

The pickets, who will include UBC, SFU ,

Columbia and Selkirk College students, are

demanding accreditation throughout B.C. for all

courses offered at VCC . They maintain that

Teach-in successstill being felt

A follow-up to the teach-in drew about adozen faculty and 80 students to the Delta Up-silon fraternity house last night for severa lhours of informal discussion .

The discussions, sponsored by the fraternity ,followed a debate between poli-sci prof Michea lWallace and Malcolm MacGregor on the sub-ject, "Anarchy — its implicationse on campus" .Wallace supported the case of anarchy agains t

MacGregor 's self-described position as a re-actionary .

The debate lasted about 45 minutes befor efree beer, coffee and tea were served and thegroup broke into discussion groups on a widerange of topics .

A spokesman for the organizers, Glen An-gus, poli-sci 4, said they were pleased with th etalk-in .

"We wanted to duplicate spirit of the fac-ulty club — the free discussion between thefaculty and the students," he said. "I think wedid this, to some extent at least . "

Angus also said at least three more "talk-ins are planned for the spring . "

Last Thursday, a similar event in SUB,sponsored by the philosophy department, dre wabout a hundred participants .

This group plans to meet again Nov . 21 andinvites everybody to come and/or leave a lis tof grievances for discussion in Carey Linde' s

office, SUB 258 .

Positive results from the teach-in are als oin evidence in the biology department with theformation of a student committee to study firs tyear courses .

The committee is preparing a questionnair eto present to Bi . 101 students in their lecturesnext week .

VCC students at present are discriminatedagainst by the SFU registrar 's office when theyseek admission to the hilltop university .

A spokesman for the group, Michel Lalain ,said a rally will be held outside the southwes tcorner of SUB today at noon to discuss andplan the protest .

As well as immediate accreditation, thegroup demands that the SFU registrar's offic eopen its files to a committee of students for a ninvestigation into the alleged discrimination .

They also ask that an appeal board be set upso that students who have been refused admis-sion at SFU can have their cases reviewed .

SFU associate registrar Dennis Meyers, wh oreportedly handles all admission cases to SFU ,was unavailable for comment . A spokesmansaid he is out of town .

SFU registrar H. M. Evans refused comment

Tuesday on the situation .

Lalain charged Tuesday that Meyers is th e

person responsible for the misunderstanding .

"He often discriminates purely on the basis of

a student's socio-economic background when

deciding who he will let into SFU, " Lalain said .

He said his information came from VCCstudents including second-year student Lyle

Osmondson who have laid formal complaint s

with VCC registrar Raymond Turner about th e

SFU policy.

Turner said much of the misunderstandin g

arises from the fact that VCC is an institution

primarily designed to prepare students fo r

UBC .

He said in an interview that about 100 VC Ccourses are accepted by UBC while students

are given credit for only about 65 by SFU .

Turner said the reason for thas was prob-ably that SFU was attempting to maintain a

high academic standard and only wants the to p

students from VCC .

"It's definitely true that they are trying t o

shunt people from SFU to UBC, " he said. "Wemake it sufficiently clear to students through

our compulsory counselling program that som e

of the courses they take may not be accredite d

by the universities .

"This situation should be rectified immedi-

ately. We are absolutely in favor of the prin-ciple of accreditation, although we don't agre e

with the students' tactics ."

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Wednesday, November 13, 1968

T H E

UBYSSEY

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Clients committee approvesWireless residence plans

— dick button photoREAPING FALL'S HARVEST, a grounds worker is caught i nthe act of sweeping leaves under nature's carpet by eagle-lens Ubyssey photog who rose with the sun .

AMS committeechecks Ubyssey

If you don't like your student newspaper, you now have achance to air your beefs and meet The Ubyssey editorial boar din person .

The AMS has set up a committee under internal affair sofficer Ruth Dworkin to investigate the paper . It will hold apublic meeting Friday noon in SUB room M (upstairs on thesoutheast side) .

"This will give people an opportunity to talk about what astudent newspaper should be, and give them a chance a mak especific complaints," Miss Dworkin said Tuesday .

The investigation was prompted by complaints to AMS pre-sident Dave Zirnhelt about fabrication of news, distortion ofnews, unrepresentative editorial policy, and refusal to print cer-tain letter to the editor.

Miss Dworkin said the Friday meeting is one way for th ecommunications commission to get information for a report i twill make to students' council about The Ubyssey .

The communications commission is a group of ten student swho help the internal affairs officer co-ordinate communicationsand public relations on campus .

The report, which will also be based on a random publicopinion survey, will look into the role of a campus paper, itsrelationship to students' council and the students, the appoint-ment of Ubyssey editors, and alleged shortage of funds for th epaper .

"Complaints have to be specific ; I'm not interested in gen-eral comments," Miss Dworkin said .

She added that anyone who has complaints or suggestionsbut can't make it to the meeting should drop off a letter in heroffice .

"Hrrumpph," commented Ubyssey editor Al Birnie .

By ERIK BRYNJOLFSSONUbyssey Housing Reporter

Plans for the wireless site residence com-plex were approved Friday by the residenc eclients' committee .

The clients' committee is a joint student-administration-faculty committee studying plansfor the 1200-bed residence planned for thearea near the UBC traffic office north of SUB .

Plans must now be approved by the boardof governors before a Central Mortgage andHousing Corporation loan can be secured andnegotiations for the contract started.

Housing director Les Rohringer sees no dif-ficulty in obtaining support of the board .

"Mr. Arthur Fouks, a member of the clients 'committee is also a member of the board, is asenthusiastic about the project as the students, "he said .

Terry Odlum, one of three student member sof the eight-man commiteee, said the new typeof residence is a definite improvement .

"The residence offers plenty of flexibilityfor senior students," she said .

Rohringer said Wednesday, "This new resi-dence complex is a unique approach to resi-dences — far ahead of any other in Canada orthe U.S . "

The complex will have housekeeping suitesin low cluster dwellings to be shared by twostudents, and single rooms in three high-rise swith common facilities shared by groups of sixstudents .

Residents will be free to choose betweencooking their own meals, buying .a meal pass,or using food vending machines, which willprovide a wide variety of hot or cold meals 24 .hours a day .

The complex is designed for students ove r20 years of age and provides for libraries, sem-inar rooms, and social areas .

Indian poetrecites in I H

India's national poet Ramesh Gupta, whos esongs inspired Nehru and Gandi, will recite hisworks in International House tonight (Wednes-day) at 7 :30 .

Admission $1 . Further information from Dr.Parekh (228-3609) or Dr . Varma (228-2721).

"The design is based not only on the desireof the students on the committee, but also onthe AMS housing survey, and a questionnairecirculated in the residences," he said .

The residence is expected to be ready foruse by September, 1970.

Student housingpriority urgedby admin. brief

Student housing should have a high priorit ywith the federal task force on housing andurban development, says a brief by the UB Chousing administration .

The brief was presented to the task forceFriday by housing director Les Rohringer ,resident student John Stewart, and DewanCallahan of the housing administration staff .It said the average student income, includin gloans and bursaries, does not pay for muchmore than room and board, and tuition .

The board of governors at UBC has approv-ed an objective of providing accommodationfor 25 per cent of the single. students enrolled ,it said.

The brief points out, however, that the uni-versity is over 2,500 beds short of this require-ment .

The brief suggested that :50 per cent of the overall costs of stu-

dent residences be made available by a govern-ment grant and the rest come from a CentralMortgage and, Housing Corporation loan ;

• that overall interest rate of CMHC loansbe reduced from its present level to three percent ;

• that a slum clearance fund be madeavailable to absolve the cost of replacing theold army hut residences (Acadia Camp andFort Camp) .

Rohringer said Tuesday, "The public hearsa great deal of adverse publicity about students,but it must not be forgotten that any invest-ment made on these lines is made towards ageneration of better educated, better trained

people . "

— gordie tong photo

WHILE THE MOB FIGHTS for lunch in the cafeteria and artists around the world starve, UBCstudents find happy medium in the serenity of a lunch hour spent in SUB art gallery .

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T H E

U B Y S S E Y

Wednesday, November 13, 1968

THE URYSSEY

LETTERS TO THE EDITO RPublished Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year sby the Alma Mater Society of the University of B .C. Editorial opinions ar ethose of the editor and not of the AMS or the university . Member,Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey subscribes to the press service sof Pacific Student Press, of which it is founding member, and Undergroun dPress Syndicate. Authorized second class mail by Post Office Department ,Ottawa, and for payment of postage in cash . The Ubyssey publishes PageFriday, a weekly commentary and review. City editor, 228-2305. Othe rcalls, 228-2301 editor; Page Friday 228-2309; sports 228-2308; advertising228-3977 . Telex 04-5843.

NOVEMBER 13, 1968

AccreditationWho says everyone in B .C. has equal educational

opportunities ?Students at Vancouver City College and Selkirk

Junior College in Castlegar find, to their non-amusement,that the Socred propaganda about decentralizing educa-tion, about establishing junior colleges `separate butequal' in standards of teaching to the two overcrowdeduniversities, is just that — propaganda with no basisin fact .

As documented elsewhere in the paper, student sat these institutions, and in some, cases UBC, find thei rcourse credits are not accepted at SFU .

The reasons given for the discrimination may becalled `attempts to maintain a high academic standing' .But this standing is based on the fact that there isinequality of educational opportunity for all citizensin the province — those from out of town who cannotafford room and board are obvious victims .

The fact that everyone who wants to cannot ge tinto Simon Fraser is not entirely due to the SF Uauthorities — they have only sa much money for facili-ties with which to accommodate an unlimited numbe rof students — so the have to set some sort of unfair,arbitrary standards.

For students who seriously want to pursue post -secondary study with prohibitive cost to themselves ,however, the accreditation issue is just another barrie rin their path .

They can possibly get into UBC — but not for long,if enrolment restrictions come into effect .

More and more students may be crammed into thejunior colleges, which may eventually grant four-yea rdegrees, but for what ends ?

If their two-year degrees are not accepted by otheruniversities, what value will four-year degrees have ?And if the quality of education is so inferior, why goto the trouble of creating junior colleges in the firstplace ?

The reasoning, we say, is mainly for the purposeof channeling youth off the labor market into largelyunnecessary academic pursuits, because of lack of placesfor them in industry .

And as alienated youth questions the process anddrops out, they are doubly stigmatized by having neithertechnical nor professional training, and the stigma as a nacademic failure, with no possibility of gaining creativ eemployment .

No MoralmanWoe is us! Fellow Moralman fans, we share you r

shock and disbelief at the vile change of character in ourbeloved hero.

Moralman, defender of virginity, motherhood, and al lother forms of purity, has sold out! After years of faithfultrue-blue righteousness, he has been perverted by Albert ,symbol of obtuse degeneracy .

Is nothing sacred anymore? What will be the reactionof the tens of thousands on campus who regularly readMoralman and looked to him for spiritual guidance, tothe shocking hypocrisy in recent strips ?

The Ubyssey's reaction, as defender of truth andwholesomeness on this campus, is quick and decisive .

After today, this filthy and obscene strip willno longer appear on our lily-white pages . We must purgethis cancer immediately .

Adieu, and good riddance, Moralman. When yourefuse to conform to the virtues we have held in suchhigh esteem since time immemorial, you must be elimin-ated .

(P.S.—we'll miss you, Arnold.)

so our most appauling obknoxious dis-torter did his story. Elaine Tarzwel lgiggled apprehensively at Erik Bryn-jolfsson's brief. Filthy, said Sue Gordon,who stayed around to enjoy it . FrankFlynn tried to pin down hedge-hodgebut Dick Button took down Woodd' spinups in the darkroom . Norm Gidne yshowed us the CP slant, so Gibbs adapt-ed it to the newsdesk twist, a paltr yprelude to Phil Winch's sports stomp ."If you get objective, I go," cried Irv-ing as he fled, carrying Ann, with tear sstreaming onto Ann A's bald pate ."Hurrumph," was all AI could say sinc ehis mouth was nailed close to avoidany editorial bias . "This is gettin grediculous." commented Leo Tolstoy offthe record .

EDITOR : AI Blrni eNews John Twig gAss't News John GibbsCity Peter Ladne rAss't City Alex VolkoffManaging • Bruce Curti sAssociate Mike Finla yPhoto . . . . Dick Button, Powell HargraveSports Jim MaddinWithout Portfolio Paul Kno xPage Friday Andrew Horva t

They're after us . but we ain't scared .Alex Volkoff stayed up all night worry-ing so James Conchieanxiously coveredcouncil while Nader Mirhady looked on ,dumbfounded at the dashing wit andsparkling debate . Michel threatened us,

DiscriminationEditor, The Ubyssey, Sir :

Regarding the proposed Thursday picket atSFU, I wish to offer my own experience per-taining to the alleged arbitrary admissio npolicy .

After four years in the education faculty atUBC, majoring in math and physics, I decide dnot to finish my fifth year, but instead accepte da teaching position in Smithers, B .C. In 1968 ,I applied to enter the dept . of sociology at SFU .I had previously studied sociology at UBC an dhad published papers on educational sociologyin Canada while I was teaching . I fully ex-pected to lose some accreditation in the trans-fer from UBC to SFU, however I did not expectthe complete rejection of my qualifications .After this, I continued my teaching post an dre-applied the following year under the adviceof the head of the sociology dept . at SFU .Again I was rejected with no further explana-tion and no form of appeal. Being persistant ,I applied a third time and, with much workbeing done in the dept . on my behalf, I wasfinally accepted. I was credited with less tha none year of study for my four years at UB Cand received no credit for my sociology or mypublications .

Now working on my M.A. in sociology a swell as finishing my undergraduate require-ments, I have so far received 77 semester hour s(2 1 years) of straight A's, have been nomin-ated for the Woodrow Wilson scholarship, an dam currently working under a $2,400 depart-ment scholarship . Though the sociology dept .is fully satisfied with my work, the registrarat SFU still refuses to review my case of los sof accreditation through transfer .

In personal conversation with the registrar ,D. A. Meyers, has stated that he feels my com-ing to SFU indicates "an attempt to escape th eindustrial system", and he has suggested tha tall mature students (I am now 35) who wishto come to SFU do so because of the radicalelement within the university. He refused toaccept my explanation regarding the excel-lence of the PSA dept . at SFU.

I have in my files all written communica-tion between Mr. Meyers and myself . I amalso able to produce witnesses to verbal com-munications . I am sure that mine is not anisolated case and I ask others in similar cir-cumstances to appear with me Thursday at theRegistrar's office at SFU .

S. LOCKHART

Joint conferenceEditor, The Ubyssey, Sir :

The issues concerning the student-senatejoint conference proposal have not been cor-rectly presented in your front-page articleNov. 7 .

AMS prepared a brief of reform proposals .Senate said, "O .K., let's discuss it", and set upa committee for the purpose . The committeemethod is how senate handles all its business,and it works .

But this did not satisfy the AMS representa-tives, who said (and council has now backedthem up), "unless senate accepts the format fordiscussion that we dictate, we won't play" .This in spite of the fact that on the few occa-sions when the AMS representatives have drop-ped the procedural wrangle and discussed rea lissues, great progress was made .

There is nothing sinister or mysteriousabout senate's refusal to buckle under to AMSdictation, and "breach of faith" is involved .The joint conference would be a new institu-tion based on a new principle : that thereshould be no role distinction between facultyand students . This new principle is one of thethings the brief is about . To adopt the jointconference as the format for discussion wouldmean that senate must accept the brief 's prin-ciples before it discusses them. Senate did notthink this was reasonable.

The point is evidently quite well understoodby Carey Linde who is quoted in The Ubysse yas saying : "The idea of openness is not only aprocedural matter but inherent in the mainissues of the brief" . Exactly. Linde insists thatSenate must accept the brief's premises beforethe AMS will condescend to discuss the pro -

posals based on them . Surely this does "notmake sense .

Linde goes on to say (according to Th eUbyssey) : "The manner in which we bringabout the reforms is more important than thereforms themselves". At least he's honest .

A final word about the senate vote . I amconvinced that senate was essentially of on emind on the point of principle I have discussed ,and that the vote represented in the main thesplit between those who regard student leadersas mature adults to whom one can simply say :"Look, I think you are wrong", and those whoregard student leaders as well-intentioned chil-dren who are liable to kick up a tantrum i fthey don't get their lollipop : the joint confer-ence. I belong to the former group, and I amstill hoping we can get on with the job of dis-cussing reforms .

Yours very truly ,G. ROSENBLUTH ,professor of economics

Whither UBC?Editor, The Ubyssey, Gentleman :

I am profoundly disappointed at what uni-versity has come to be . Belling a young ma nof the most correct breeding, I expected to findin university many of the highest pursuits be -fitting my station. Here I feel the faculty ha sindeed slighted me and my own kind . Univer-sity was devised and developed for gentlemento pass their leisure time in pursuit of the fine rpoints in life, and more importantly functionedas it still should, as a training ground for th echosen few most suited to be the leaders of th ecommunity .

I find it inexcusable that the current uni-versity policy allows for those of the masses ,the uncultured and the ill-bred, to attend uni-versity — none of this nonsense about the in -creasing demands made upon it by the indus-trial world . How do you expect to be properlyfinanced by business and industry when theuniversity ceases to play its most importan trole, that of a tool of development for younggentlemen to help prepare them socially forthe responsibilities of leadership that mus tawait any young man of the upper crust . Doesanyone expect the aristocracy to perpetuateitself; surely not .

What is all this talk of rights, freedoms forthe masses — communism, that's all it is . Whycan't they accept their stations in life as weall must? I did not come to university to learnof poverty, but social grace ; I care not ofdeath and misery, only of life and the pursuitof happiness, which is the right of any gentle -man .

I suggest that faculty get to work and re-store this institution to one of high ideals . Wemust reinvolve ourselves in studies of the clas-sics, physics, metaphysics, in studying God' sword, correctly articulated speech, sophisti-cated carriage, horsemanship and proper lifestyles . We cannot attempt to do that if we arecontinually confronted by the riff-raff who at -tempt to make us believe that we must con-cern ourselves with pollution, hunger, poverty ,freedom or self-determination, etc . I suggesttherefore we stop offering loans and simultan-eously raise the tuition fee to at least $2,00 0per annum, lest we be overtaken by the in-grates and the impure who would have usdirty our hands . For God's sake, gentlemen, letus get on with our duty.

STEPHEN BLOCK ,Lambda Sigma Delta '6 9

Socred stuff

Editor, The Ubyssey, Sir:The UBC Social Credit club has been mak-

ing successful steps to the improvement ofallocations to education while some of theAMS executives criticize aimlessly with n oclear proposals that go beyond the university .Our constructive lobbying is getting effectiveresults .

First, our proposal of having bursaries forout of town students who have the liability ofhaving to pay room and board while manycity students are able to live at home withoutthis extra cost, has been fully supported andaccepted by education minister Brothers . Hehas now set up a committee to study the de-tails of implementing it .

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Student movementhas limitations

By JULIUS LESTE RThe Guardian (New York )

A student movement has its own built-in limitations ,both in terms of how much it can do and how much it canunderstand. In some ways, a student movement tends to beartificial, because the student lives in an artificial environ-ment — the university . Thus, it is natural that a studentmovement generally concerns itself with issues that th emajority of society has hardly any time at all to be con-cerned about . This is good to a point . Without the studentdemonstrations against the war,- there would've been noantiwar movement. Without student consciousness of rac-ism, blacks would be even more isolated and vulnerable toattack .

• A student movement evolves to an inevitable poin twhere it realizes that wars and racism are the manifesta-tions of an inhuman system and if wars and racism ar egoing to be stopped, the system itself must be stopped an danother created. And it is at this point that a student move-ment reaches the boundaries of its inherent limitations .When this juncture is reached, the student movement findsits members becoming increasingly frustrated and th emovement seeks to relieve that frustration through activ-ism and/or by turning its attention to changing he students 'immediate environment, the university .LOOKS ARE DECEIVIN G

A student movement which concerns itself with bring-• ing about changes within the university is engaging in a n

act which can have all the appearances of being important ,while being, in essence, quite unimportant . Regardless ofhow unending one's stay in a university may seem, the factyet remains that after four years of serving time, the stu-dent leaves . The university is a temporary society for mos twho live within its confines and as such, any radical activ-ity aimed at it is of limited value .

• Because the university is a temporary society, an ymovement coming from it is in danger of being temporary .The next student generation may have more traditiona linterests than the one which kept the campus in an uproa rduring the preceding four years . And while student move-ments are characterized by a great willingness to confron tthe reigning social authority, there is nothing inherent ina student movement that will insure its evolution into a

• radical movement once the students leave the university .

POWERS TO DISRUPT AREN'T REVOLUTION POWERSPerhaps the greatest liability of a student movement

is that it is only able to speak to other students . While thi sis of limited value, the fact still remains that there is per-haps no group more powerless than students . Not only ar estudents without power, the instruments of power are no teven part of their world . If all students went on strike, itwouldn't cause the society to pause in its step . The mostthat a student movement can do is to disrupt . The powe rto disrupt, however, cannot be equated with the power t omake a revolution. A student movement is only a revolu-tionary force when it can act as an adjunct with othe rforces in society . It is needless to say that such a situa-

• tion does not presently exist .

RADICALS LIVE IN OWN WORLDWhen student radicals leave the campus, they can

avoid coming into direct contact with other forces in thesociety by creating their own little worlds where they con -

• tinue to live with each other, talk only to each other andremain unconcerned about the concrete problems whichmost people have to face . The student radical is never hear dtalking about a rise in the price of milk, new taxes, rea lwages or doctor bills. The student radical creates his ownsociety in which money is not an overriding problem an dbecause it isn't, the student radical thinks that revolutionis all about love, because he has time to think about love .Everybody else is thinking about survival .

While the goal of revolution is the creation of the newman, people turn to revolution when that becomes the onl ymeans of satisfying their material needs . They do not be-come revolutionaries because of any ideas about the ne wman.

CAN EVERYDAY RADICALS BE TRUSTED?The student radical has to become an everyday radi-

cal before he can be totally trusted. He must know theconcrete problems which face the everyday person. Andwhile such issues as the war in Viet Nam, the repressionof Mexican students and the invasion of Czechoslovakiaare important, revolution is made from the three eternalissues — food, clothing and shelter . Our job is to showpeople that they are being robbed of their birthright fo ra mess of pottage and that that is not necessary .

As long as the movement is dominated by students, themovement will carry within it the seeds of its own death .As long as the student, upon graduation, carries his radical -ism to an apartment three blocks away from the campusor to the nation's East Villages where a thousand othersjust like him reside, his radicalism will remain theoreticallycorrect and pragmatically irrelevant, except as a gadfl yforcing the system to make minimal reforms .

MORE LETTERS TO THE EDITO RSecond, a resolution passed

unanimously (with Brothers 'support) at the recent Socredconvention called for increasedper capita grants to universi-ties .

Thirdly, a resolution callingfor lowering the drinking ageto 19 was narrowly defeated .We feel that this resolutionwill be passed for sure nextconvention after lobbying o fmembers and MLA's by ourconcerned members .

In addition to this we brin gout MLA's for speaking en-gagements and seminars whichfamiliarize them with theneeds of the university and it sstudents.

DAN BANOV,president, UBC Socred s

NonleaderEditor, The Ubyssey, Sir :

Last Thursday a mob of en-gineers raided the science com-mon room .

With the group was engineer-ing president Fraser Hodge .

When they could not gainadmittance to the commonroom, the engineers chained th edoor closed from the outside.

And Fraser Hodge watchedthem do it .

They then left the buildin gto finish their childish prank .But once outside, they decide dthat they, as engineers, coul dperform any acts of violenceand vandalism that they de-sired .

And so they threw three bot-tles and rocks through theclosed windows and threw fire -works through t h e broke npanes . Finally one tossed a con-tainer filled with some darksticky syrup into the room,ruining a large area of thecarpeting .

And their leader, FraserHodge, was there .

This is the third time thissemester that the engineer shave damaged the science com-mon room, despite an agree-ment between science and en-gineering to exclude the com-mon rooms from their infantilerivalry .

And Fraser Hodge was ther ethis time .

Hodge vehemently claimsthat he went along to try t o

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stop the others . This explana-tion is not plausible when oneexamines the strong position o fleadership that has tradition -ally existed for the engineerin gpresident .

Had Hodge exerted positiv eand forceful leadership the act sof vandalism would not havehappened .

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(Ed. Note: Hodge, when con-tacted at Tuesday's councilmeeting, said he was walkin gpast the math building whenhe saw a group of frosh engin-eers . "Remembering the troublewith frosh last year, I took acloser look and was in time t oprevent them breaking downthe door . I was not a memberof the pranksters," he said . )

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Dow Chemical sticks with it,defends napalm manufacture

By STEVE PETRANEKMaryland Diamondbac k

MIDLAND, Mich . (CPS-CUP )— Dow Chemical Corporatio nhas elected to take a mora lstand on napalm—they're goin gto stick with it .

"You can debate the war ,you can talk about whether ornot we should be there," Dowpresident H. D. Doan saidThursday, "but while our guy sare there we feel like givin gthem the weapons they need,and believe me, they reall yneed thjs one . "

Although Doan feels theVietnam war has "gotten com-pletely out of hand" and favor san immediate troop withdrawal,he also says that napalm is " afantastically useful strategicweapon . "

"There's only one tactica lweapon that can turn back thehuman wave and that's nap-alm," he said. "This liquid firebomb is the only way to seepdeath into concrete bunker sand heavily protected troop em-placements ."

Doan also said he believedthe American soldier wouldhave been pushed out of SouthVietnam in military defea twithout napalm .

With napalm representin gless than one-half of one percent of all Dow sales, the deci-sion to continue making thesticky and firey gasoline jellycould be little more tha nprinciple .

Dow is not forced by anygovernmental pressures to con-tinue making napalm . Govern-ment contracts represent les sthan five per cent of total sales .

But Dow does have an image 'problem .

Citing a recent student sur-vey taken by the company,Doan said that although no oneassociated Dow with militaryproducts in 1966, over 90 percent of college students pollednow know Dow makes napal mand "the great majority of th estudents think Dow is the num-ber one supplier of war mater-ials . "

Dow ranks 75th on a list oftop defense contractors forthe war and Doan noted tha tthe top defence contractors for

he was "not a bit surprised tosee several universities aheadof Dow . "

According to company re-cruiters, response of top stu-dents to Dow campus inter -views has not been affected,despite the more than 180demonstrations in the last year.

Doan says the company feel sa "right and a responsibility t obe on campus for those student swho want to discuss job oppor-tunities, and we have alway ssupported the right of othersto debate the issues, to demons-trate peacefully, and I hope wealways will . "

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WINNIPEG (CUP)—"I have a right to get a job where Iwant to . "

It's Dow Chemical Co . time in Canada again.

Violence erupted at the University of Manitoba Thursdayin the wake of a protest against the presence of a Dow recruite rat the university placement office .

The recruiter was forced to leave after completing onl ytwo of 13 scheduled interviews .

The protest began at 8 :30 a .m. when 15 students gathere doutside the Canada Manpower centre . They carried signs read-ing: Students don't help Dow murder, Dow shalt not kill ,Engineers don't participate in murder, and Human beings arenot fuel .

By 9 :15, nearly 200 people had gathered outside the centre .Fisticuffs broke out between demonstrators and engineers.

"Sock it to 'em," "kill him", "pound the hell out of him" ,cried the counter-protestors . Clothes were torn, people knockeddown and one demonstrator had his face cut .

Dean of arts Lloyd Dulmage had earlier notified the man -power office of possible violence and recommended the recruite rleave .. He left at 10 a .m., just before the violence broke out .

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the status quo," he. said . "Rather you mus texpand and develop techniques, practices, meth-ods of learning and most important, the devel-opment of thought . "

He said burning of the university would notbe stopped by holding "back-room meetings onhow to handle the student radicals . "

"But, it would be stopped only by con-sideration of "why student radicals exist, whatrole they could legitimately play in the uni-versity and by a serious consideration of theirideas . "

Pelletier examined the relationship of th estate, industry and the university in his speech ,particularly in reference to research .

He emphasized the necessity of extensiveresearch for Canadian universities but added"The university at all costs must avoid becom-ing the hand-maid of industry . "

His comments should soothe the fears ofmany administrators who had expressed worrythroughout the AUCC conference that a moreactive university would mean more public re-action and death to the university .

The popular breakdown of the universitypopulation into student faculty and adminis-trative sectors was criticized by Pelletier . In-stead, he proposed, all members of the com-munity be regarded as apprentices with a "d efacto rank of apprenticeship" separating thegroups .

He also attacked the idea that increased"participation" by students and faculty in uni-versity affairs would solve all problems . A fa rmore viable solution would be a new definitionof the responsibilities of every member of th ecommunity .

many institutions could not comply with itbecause of their charter .

Besides, he said, it would not be wise formany discussions and decisions of the univer-sity to be made public .

Gibson was joined by Dr . H. H. Saunderson ,administration president at the University o fManitoba, who said the proposal was "toovague" and "unwise at this time. "

Proponents of the proposals said there wasdistrust of the university because many of it sactivities were kept secret . The university ha snothing to fear, they argued, therefore th epublic should be informed .

Less than 10,0 of 600 delegates turned upfor the legislative assembly . Only 20 supportedthe openness proposal .

OTTAWA (CUP) — Studentsshouldn't worry about ho wmuch money they make at asummer job since "it keepsthem out of trouble", says astudent counselling official .

W. H. Rutledge, operation sdirector for the federal Man-power department was com-menting to a commission onjobs and student aid at theannual conference of the Asso-ciation of Universities an dColleges of Canada .

Jobs are being phased out b yautomation and students ar etoo choosy about the jobs leftover, said Rutledge .

"This is a capitalist system ,you can't change it — if yo udon't like it, get out," said

'Conscience or reflectio nAUCC choice'—Pelletie r

OTTAWA (CUP) — A university with aconscience or one which merely reflects societywas the choice Gerard Pelletier, secretary ofstate, gave university administrators Wednes-day .

Pelletier, speaking to 600 administrators tothe annual convention of the Association o fUniversities and Colleges of Canada, left nodoubt as to which alternative they should take.

"It is necessary for you to break down th ebarrier of the aristocratic university and re -build it as the university of the people . "

Administrators, said Pelletier, must definetheir role to be able to "rationalize" it .

"Surely your role must not be to maintain

AMS circusdresses up

More AMS offices have been decorated, butthis time seemingly without any repurcussions .

The reception room to the AMS executiveoffices was given a layer of stars and othe rdecorations on Monday night .

About seven students raided Mamooks forscraps and then went to work, creating starsfor the walls and name plaques for theoffic edoors .

Some mobiles were added yesterday morn -, ing by the secretaries who were very willing

to get into the swing of things .

OTTAWA (CUP) — Administrators have re -versed an earlier stand against secrecy in uni-versity affairs.

Wednesday a commission of 50 delegates tothe conference of the Association of Univer-sities and Colleges of Canada voted unanimous-ly to accept a proposal that "all informatio nregarding a university . . . be considered publicinformation unless specifically decided other-wise . "

Thursday a plenary session shunted the pro-posal to the Association of University Informa-tion Bureaus for "further consideration" afte rit met heavy oppostion from senior adminis-trators .

Dr. James Gibson, administration presidentat Brock University, opposed the motion, saying

Association reverses standinfo won't be public after al l

Robert Pomerantz, a studentobserver and director of theMcGill University Entrepreneu-rial Association .

He wants to be in manage-ment because "that's where th eaction is . "

Another student said "Th estudent is a capital investment ,like a stock or a bond . It wouldbe dishonest for me to acceptmoney for going to school . "

Dr . D. C. Smith, head of theadult education program atYork University, accused theexisting student aid system ofbeing "aristocratic", maintain-ing it discriminated againstlower income groups .

The commission's concensuswas that there is a problem ;

there must be more aid andsummer jobs for students .

A vice-president of UnionGenerale des Etudiants deQuebec tried to bring the com-mission around to discussingstudents as intellectual workersand stipends for them .

However, he wasn't verysuccessful ; his ideas were term-ed "impractical" and dismissed .

The commission decided toset up "interim action com-mittees" at various universitie sand proposed a national stud yof student employment .

The plenary session of theAUCC later voted to ask gov-ernment agencies to study theproblem and help create stu-dent jobs .

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In Friday's opener the PowellRiver Regals came out skatinghard and hitting even harder .

RegaIs drew first blood mid -way through the first perio dbut Laurie Vanzella scored t oeven it up at 1-1 at the end ofthe first period .

Mickey McDowell scored a tthe 15 :20 mark to make it 2- 1going into the final period .

The first eight minutes of th efinal game saw both club sengage in wide open hocke yas the Regals scored twice androokie Barry Wilcox replied fo rthe Birds .

With the score tied 3-3 bothteams settled down to someclose checking each waiting fora break, but again it wasWilcox who broke loose at the18:31 mark to score the win-ning goal .

Although a closely foughtgame it was marred by man ybad penalty calls as the refere emade as many mistakes as someof the players .

Before a crowd of over 900the Regals came on strong Sat-urday night to take an early 2- 0lead but the Birds fought backwith two goals by Mickey Mc -Dowell to end the first period2-2 .

The Regals laid on the heav ychecking as well as the woodas they attempted to physicallybeat the Birds .

With the calibre of referee-ing leaving much to be desire dthe teams managed to get awa ywith a lot of high sticking ,

JACK MOORES managed t oget a lot of ice time this week -end .

cross-checking and spearing .

Early in the game CowboyRichards was cross-checked i nthe face but there was nopenalty.

Richards had his nose brokenand required several stitches .

The Birds outscored th eRegals 2-1 in the middle perio don goals by Barry Wilcox an dWayne Schaab to lead 4-3 goin ginto the final twenty minutes .

Urged on by an enthusiasticcrowd the Regals tied the gameat the 9 :32 mark on a goal b yMcNeil .

Immediately after this goalLaurie Vanzella was clippe dwith a high stick in the eye .

This required several stitche sand forced Laurie to leave th egame leaving the Birds withonly two defencemen for theremainder of the game .

With ten minutes left in atied game coach Bob Hind-march was forced to shuffl esome of his forwards on todefence .

Again the checking got clos eas both teams were lookin gfor a break but this time th etables were reversed as McNeilbroke loose for his third goa lof the evening to put the Regal sahead 5-4 .

Hindmarch pulled goalieRick Bardal, who had playedan outstanding game, in thefinal minute in an attempt t otie the game .

The Regals had three longshots on the open net bringin gthe crowd to its feet as one ofthe shots hit the post.

Soccer 'Birds wingnow lead league '

At least one team at UBChas demonstrated its ability t owin consistently and take thelead in their league .

The soccer Thunderbirdsunder coach Joe Johnson ar ecurrently in first place in th ePacific Coast Soccer League .

In their game against theVictoria O'Keefes, the defend-ing PCSL champions, the Birdsplayed well to win by a 1-0score, on a picture goal byHarvey Thom who connecte d

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UB'C's wrestling team all butswept a weekend meet againstRoyal Roads . They won sevenof the eight weight classes ,losing the eighth by default .

Dennis McDonald of UB Cpinned Al Johnson when th e125-pound class match was only45 seconds old . (This time isamazingly fast for wrestling . )

Alex Jamison of UBC deci-sioned Carl Ripley 6-3 in th e138-pound class .

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Pete Rombough pinned Mik eBateman in 1 :11, adding victoryin the 152-pound division toUBC's total.

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By JIM MADDINUbyssey Sports Editor

The UBC football team ended its season with a0-8 win-loss record and an average score of 32.4 fortheir opponents and 2 .6 points per game for them.

Usually the team is excused because their opponent shave players on athletic scholarships and our teamdoesn't.

Well, on Saturday they played a team with n oathletic scholarship program and got hosed again . TheOregon College of Education offers no scholarships, ha sa total enrolment of about 2500 students and of thatpopulation more than half is female .

This speaks very poorly of the Birds ; although thegame was played under bad conditions in the mud at theThunderbird stadium, the coaches thought before th egame the Birds should win .

They did not and there must be a reason behind it .We can see the team is weak, that they do not blockor run with authority, that their passing attack is no nexistant and their defensive coverage has more hole sthan Swiss cheese, but there must be some way ofgetting these problems solved .

Players that I talked to feel that the coaches knowwhat they are doing, but observing practises one quickl ysees that the team does not do the physical work neces-sary to remain in good condition .

The old saw about not having any players is truehere, because no one wants to play for a losing team ,unless they think that their addition will make th eteam better .

Since UBC does not offer athletic scholarships ,then there must be other ways of enticing players tocome, or even taking the players that are here andgetting them out to the practices.

Possibly the best way to get this attitude will beif and when the athletic department and the coachin gstaff get together as they are attempting to do next yea rand make the athletes feel that they are both wanted andas we know, needed .

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Wednesday, November 13, 1968

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— dick button phot o

DANYLIEU HEADING FOR LIGHT . UBC halfback, Paul Danylieu has a hole opened for him ona first and goal to go from the five-yard ine .

Weekend action sta rThis box will appear in the first issue

after every weekend and will introduc eathletes who were individual stars in thei rsport over the weekend; so congratulatethem when you see them .

In a losing cause, Bob Laycoe a twenty -one year old six foot two inch guard whoweighs in at 235 pounds, was a standout.

The son of an athlete, his father Halmade his name in hockey, Bob has receivedpro rating from the staff out here.

He also received plaudits in other gamesthis year, for instance, Cal Murphy the coachat the University of Hawaii said that he wasone of the only good players on the teamand that at times he carried the whole back-field by opening the only hole in the line.

The UBC coaching staff can't take all th ecredit though, as he played for Linfield Col-lege, and made all-conference tackle in thei rleague .

Bob is in his first year of'grad school i nPE.

The Thunderbird footballteam topped off a perfect seaso nSaturday afternoon as theywere trounced 42-7 by the

Oregon College of EducationWolves.

This made eight in a row th eBirds have lost this season, i nattaining their particular levelof perfection.

While doing this the Birdsscored a fantastic total of 2 1points while holding theiropponents to a mere 2 ,59 .

The game was an hour lategetting started, as Oregon' splane was delayed by fog .

It was decided not to allo wthem any warm up time. Inspite of the handicap, Oregon' sfine back Bob Zeigler caughthis first three touchdown passesat 1 :33 of the first quarter ,from the arm of quarterbac k

SEASON TOTA L

Football Birds loselast arse of season

DICK BUTTON9

Don Ruecker on Oregon's first was a quarterback, a coachin gplay from scrimmage .

staff, a dozen linemen and aNot to be outdone, Ruecker dozen backfielders .

himself later scored two touch-downs and passed for the other.

Larry Koenig converted allsix Oregon touchdowns .

Zeigler scored his secondtouchdown at 11 :47 of the firstquarter, and his third at 1 :10 o fthe second quarter, again onpasses .

Keeping in the spirit of th egame, Oregon scored again a t3 :27 of the second quarter a sRuecker fired to end JimRehberg for their 4th major .At the magic time of 8 :09 ofthis same quarter, a miracletook place as UBC back Berni eFandrich, running in place ofthe absent Dave Corcoran, fellinto the end zone on seconddown and goal from the two .Dick Stein converted .

Ruecker ran the last two TD shimself in the last quarter tofinish the slaughter .

In retrospect, all the footbal lteam really needed this year

andPHIL- WINCH

Other than these vacanciesthe team was as solid as a rock .

This is the fourteenth seasonthat the football team has beenthe shame of the university ,with one possible exception ,coincidently the same length o ftime that Gnup has been here.

Since a good part of theathletic budget goes towardmaking this university lookfoolish, it just might be an ide aif they would at least loo kfoolish gracefully .

The athletic department i sbuzzing with ideas for improv-ing the team next year, bu tany permutation of this year' sversion cannot be successful .

Perhaps it is time for achange. Who knows whathidden talents could be un-covered on the football teamif they had more time to devot eto the search for them.

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SUNDAYS —7 :30 1.o 9 :30 p.m .

*Except when Hockey Games scheduled:November 1, 2, 15, 16, 29, 3 0January 10, 11, 24, 2 5February 14, 15

Admission: Afternoons—Students 35c . Adults 60cEvenings—Students 50c . Adults 75c .

Skate Rental - 35c a pair. - Skate Sharpening - 35c a pairFor further information call 228-3197 or 224-3205

7:30 to 9:30 p.m.3:00 to 5:00 p .m .7:30 to 9:30 p .m. *3:00 to 5:00 p .m . *7:30 to 9 :30 p.m.

12 :45 to 2:45 p .m .

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If you are interestedin seeking employment upon graduation wit ha large organization, having well develope dtraining programs for management and pro-fessional staff, you might like to read some o fthe detailed information which Ontario Hydr ohas on file in your Placement Office . We areengaged in an expansion, through which ou rpresent capacity of 10 million kilowatts will bedoubled in less than 10 years through the us eof very large nuclear and coal-fired therma lplants . This program will provide a continuingchallenge in a wide range of professiona lcareers .

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'TWEEN CLASSES. .

Despite the odds:young love .wins

CLASSIFIE D

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The Family Way, an Englishcomedy about sex and th emarried girl, shows Thurs . a t

12 :30, 3 :30, 6, 8 :30 p .m . Fri .at 6, 8 :30 p .m ., old Aud., 50cents .

COMMUNICATIONS COMM."What' s a campus paper al labout? Is The Ubyssey doin gits job?" Your chance to sa ywhat you think . Meeting

noon Friday, SUB M .

CIASPMeeting noon today, SUB105 B .

UBC SOCREDS

Herb Capozzi speaks noontoday, Bu. 106 .

SDSGeneral meeting 7:30 p.m .

tonight, SUB clubs lounge .

HISTORICAL ASSOC.

Ian Ross speaks Thursday 8p.m., Grad Centre .

NEW DEMOCRAT SGeneral meeting to discussleadership, noon today, Bu .217 . Dave Barrett speaks Fri-day noon, Bu. 106 .

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Car rally, Thursday noon ,

South end of D lot, entry 5 0cents .

BIRD SKI TEAMTickets for annual Rosslan dski trip on sale in SUB mai nfoyer .

MUSConcert today noon, Musicbldg. recital hall. Charle sIves, "Concord sonata", DaeBaird, piano . Faculty stringquartet, music of Bartok ,Smetana, Mozart . Thursday

noon .

CAMPUS CAVALIER SDancing Thursday, noon-2 :30p .m ., SUB 207L .

FLYING CLUB

Search and Rescue speech byCapt . Madden, 7 p .m . tonight ,

SUB 205K .

UBC LIBERALS

General meet, Thursdaynoon, Bu. 106 .

EL CIRCUL O

Meeting for those intereste din international folk dancing ,SUB 113, Thurs . noon . Danc e

Friday, Nov. 1'5, IH, 8 :30 p .m .

LEGAL AID COMM .

Free legal advice in vp' s

office, SUB, every Monday,

Wednesday and Friday .

GRAD STUDENT CENTREAnnual general meet, gra d

center assoc ., Friday, Nov .

15 ; to open centre to al l

members of academic com-munity .

FINE ARTS GALLERY

Dr. Alfred Seimens conduct stour of his exhibition, Wed .Nov. 13 .

SPANISH STUDENT SOrganizational meeting formajors and honors, Bu . 203 ,Wed, noon .

PSYCH CLU BGeneral meeting Thursdaynoon, SUB 111 .

PRE-DENT HYGIENE, SO CMeeting Thursday noon, SU B117 D .

SUB OPENINGMeeting noon today, SUB224 B .

MARKETING CLUB

General meeting Wed. noon ,Ang . 215 .

PRE-SOCIAL WOR KSpeaker on Juvenile Proba-tion, Thursday noon, SUBK. Willingdon volunteer in-terviews, Thurs. 1:30 p.m .SUB K .

GOSPEL STUDENT SMoody film, Red River o fLife, noon today, Bu . 104 .

MOTORCYCLE CLUB

Meeting noon today, SUB211 .

PRE-LA W

Harry Rankin speaks on Th eLaw & Social Change, Thurs .noon, Bu . 100 .

CIRCLE KGeneral meeting Friday noon ,SUB council chambers . Pam-phlet staplers needed .

PHOTO SOCContest for members, detailsin Brock exten . 163 .

CONSERVATIVES

P o l i c y committee meet sThursday noon, SUB 224 .

DANCE CLUBLearn groovy dances forparty on the 29th, today thr uMonday noon .

NEWMAN CENTER

'General meeting noon today ,SUB 215. Zirnhelt on Stu-dent Protest, tonight 8 p .m . ,SUB 211 .

AQUA SOCGeneral meeting Thurs . noon ,SUB 125 F. Diving film, 8p.m. Hebb .

NISEI VARSITYDance at International House ,Sat. 9 p.m., Blues Crusade,members $1, non - members

$1 .50 .DEBATING UNION

Meeting of the tongues, Fri-

day noon, SUB 111 .KOOTENAY MEN'S CLUB

Dance Friday, 9-1 p .m., PlaceVanier, Tomorrow's Eyes ,Seeds of Time .

CUSO WORKSHOP COMM .Meeting Friday noon, SUB

220 .CRUSADE FOR CHRIST

National director talks noo n

today, Ed. 201 .

ANNOUNCEMENT S

Dances

1 1SEEDS OF TIME & TOMORROW' S

Eyes playing simultaneously, lightshow, two dances : $1.50, Plac eVanier. Friday, Nov . 15, 9-1 .

PSYCH - SOUL - ROCK — S .U.B .Nov . 15, 9 :00 - 1 :00 . Guys $1 .50, girls$1 .25 .

PAPA BEAR'S MEDICINE SHOWConcert-Dance. November 14th, 8p .m . to 11 p .m . 600 Campbell Avenue.Admission $1 .00 . Committee of Pro-gressive Electors Benefit .

Greetings

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THE UNKNOWNSUBTLETIES O F

'68 — INVITATION — '6 91. SKIING—Mt . Baker ski pass i s

valid on any holiday .

2. MOVIES—12 movie passes ar evalid during 3 weekChristmas holiday ex-cept 3 legal holidays .

3 . RESTAURANT—Valid as manytimes as youwant anytime.

BUY NOW

Lost & Found

1 3WILL PERSON WHO WALKED OFF

with grey ring-binder from civil sKey-Punch return it to C-16 o r SUB info. desk .LOST OCT. 25 NEAR ANGUS . ONE

Teak and Silver tie pin, sentimentalvalue. Please phone 224-1578.

FOUND CHANGE PURSE LEFT B Ygirl hitchhiker from 70th and Gran-ville. Harvey, 278-1031.

FOUND : SILVER RONSON LIGHTE Rwith initials "EMR" and slide rulein green leather case . Inquire at Math Office .FOUND: ONE PAIR OF BOY' S

brown glasses by elevator in Anguson Oct. 23. Phone 922-5683 for iden -tification .

LOST: SLIDE RULE LEFT IN CARlast Thursday morning . Driver pleasecall Diane at 266-4375.

Rides & Car Pools

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Special Notices

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THE GRIN BIN HAS POSTERS,Jokes, Cards, Gifts and a PostOffice. You'll find It across fromthe Liquor Store at 3209 West Broadway.

'68 — INVITATION — 'UA student-oriented booklet of 3 3different entertainment passesvalued at over $50.00 . Availableat the Bookstore, He & She Cloth-ing (The Village) Canteens in theResidences and the Informationdesk at S.U .B . $2 .50 .

NEEDED IMMEDIATELY MAL Estudent volunteers to supervise TeenDrop-in Centre, Wednesdays 7 :30 -10 :00 p .m . Phone John 224-3619 .

THE NEW YORK LIFE AGENT O Nyour campus is a good man toknout .

REDUCE THE COST OF YOUR IN -surance by as much as 200/s. Allrisks insured and no cancellations .Motor bikes also. Phone Ted Elliott .299-9422 .

SKI APEX — STAY TWIN LAKESGUEST RANCH IN PENTICTO N

Make up a group for an exceptiona lski weekend . For a minimum of 1 2people we provide accommodation ,lodge facilities and meals, Fridaynight to Sunday for only $12 per per -son . For complete details write orwire Twin Lakes Guest Ranch . Box37, Penticton .

C .U .S .O . WORKSHOP ON AFRICA .Intn'l. Ilse. Sat., Nov . 23, 10 :00 a.m . -1 :30 p .m . Panel discussion will fea-ture African Students and returne dvolunteers . Everyone is welcome.

HEAR DAVE ZIRNHELT SPEA Kon "Student Protest " , in SUB. 211 ,from 8-10 today, presented by theNewman Club .

GORDEN SHAVE WILL GIVE A NIntroductory Talk on Logo-Dynam-ics, noon today in Buchanan 202.

AQUA SOC — DIVING IN CARRI-bean . Film & commentary by Gino

Gemma, Thurs. 14, 8 :00 p .m. Hebb Theatre .

LIGHT SHOW FANTASTIC : FRI-day. Place Vanier, " AndromedaVoyage " .

Travel Opportunities

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Wanted Information

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AUTOMOTIVE

Automobiles For Sale

2 1'63 TR-4 GOOD SHAPE, LOOK S

sharp, 55,000 miles . Want to sel lsoon . Asking $900 . 874-9788 .

'66 RAMBLER 220 . 4-DR. STN. 6.Clean. Make an offer. 733-6183.

Automobile—Repairs

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Motorcycles

2 6MUST SELL, LEAVING FOR

Europe . 1966 Suzuki 80ce only 3,000miles . Exc . condition $175 or best.733-0649.

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Miscellaneous

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tifully made . Lowest Possible cost.24 hr . service . 731-7301 .

PSYCH - SOUL - ROCK . SUB NOV.15, 9-1 . Guys $1 .60, Girls $1.25 .

Home Entertainment

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Record Players — Radio sStereo Equipment — Tape Recorder sALEXANDER AND AXELSON LTD .

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CAR NEED REPAIRS ?. . . COME TO THE SPECIALISTS

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THE GREAT E .E. CHALLENGE Sall lower forms of eng . i .e . snivels,comicals etc . to E .E . car rally Nov .14th .

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Help Wanted—Female

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exchange for babysitting, l i g h thousehold help, U .B .C . Campus area .224-0047 .

XMAS? GIRLS TO WORK PART -time in an expanding business . W eoffer an opportunity for rapid ad-vancement plus choice of workin ghours . For interview phone Heathe r521 .-3603 . Bet . 5-7 p .m .

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GROUP FOLK LESSON S10 Evenings $9.88 — Starting Soon

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FIRST YEAR MATHS, CHEMISTRY,physics lessons given by excellent tutors . 736-6923.ENGLISH, FRENCH, HISTORY LES -

sons given by B.A., M.A., B.L.S.Other languages offered. Phone 736-6923.

FRENCH LESSONS BY NATIVEFrenchman . Reasonable rates . 738-8400 evenings.

MISCELLANEOUSFORSALE 71

SCUBA ' 66 TANK, BACK - PACK ,boot, $60 . U.S . Divers Calypo-J ,regulator $95. 224-9017, Rm. 410. S .Lett Place Vanier.

YES, WE STILL HAVE COCONUToil best for your hair and skin . Plu sappointment service. Upper Tent hBarber, 4674 West 10th Avenue, 224 -6622.

HEAD METAL SKI COMPETITION.210 cm. 3 years old . $95. Phone 731-6270 .

SKIS HEAD STANDARDS N E Wbase, new marker, rotomat bindings .Overall excellent condition. $60 . 738-6785 evs.

STEREO TURNTABLE, B SR Mc -Donald 500, complete value $123.00 .Best offer . Call between 6-7 p .m .682-7966.

TESTOR PULSE PROPORTIONALR/C single channel as new $70 .00.Phone 327-5508 .

ENGLISH 200 NOTES SECT. "A" .Full term compiled by English gradstudent $2 .00 . 24 pages . 988-0847 or926-1205 .

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RENTALS & REAL ESTATE

Rooms

8 1FURNISHED ROOM FOR RENT ,

kitchen facilities, girl preferred .Phone 879-8736 after 5 :00 p.m .

(M) $40 .00 . 224-9662 KIT PRIV. MEA LServices . Close at hand . Lounge &T .V . 2250 Wesbrook .

Room & Board

82ROOM AND BOARD AVAILABLE

(bd . optional) single or double . 30thand Dunbar . 224-9303 .

GIRI, TO SHARE, 3 MEALS, LAUN -dry, extra study-studio room, semi -

private entrance . 224-0074 .

ROOM AND BOARD AVAILABLE I NAlpha Delta Phi Fraternity house .Great Food and good facilities .Phone 224-9866 .

ON CAMPUS ROOM AND BOAR Din professional home for mature fe-male student or married couplewithout children in exchange forlight household duties . Phone 224 -7441.

Furn. Houses & Apts.

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MALE TO SHARE LARGE FURN -ished house near gates . Own bed -room . $50 .00. 224-6643 .

TWO GIRLS TO SHARE FURNISH -ed house near UBC gates. Phone224-7472 .

Unfurn. House & Apts .

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TWO TWO - BEDROOM UNFURN-ished suite available December 1st ,1968. Rental $125 per month includ-ing heatng. Electricity at meteredrate . Applicants should be full-tim egraduate students at this University ;-with children. Please apply—Offic eHousing Admin . Hut 0-3 .

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Auto. For Sale (Cont .)

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atGRAND PRIX MOTORS

Special Consideration To StudentsPh. Lee 682-7185 or WE 6-205 7

YEAR END DISCOUNT SALE O Nnew Peugeot — all models . Call at1162 Seymour St .

GRAND PRIX MOTORS

1956 DODGE SEDAN, 4 DOOR, MO -tor, finish good . Phone days MU 4 -3941, Eves . WA 2-9249 .

'61 FIAT-TUDOR GOOD COND. EX.clutch, brakes $400 or best offer .Ph . 224-1677, 7-8 p .m.

'60 METEOR AUTOMATIC . NEWLYrelined brakes . New battery. 4-door .Good condition, radio. $375 . 263-7327evenings .

1961 AUSTIN 850 . GOOD CONDITION .Private sale $200 . Phone 261-5840 .

VW 1960. RUNS WELL, NEED Snew clutch . 263-5350 .

1968 MGB RED, black interior, wir ewheels, excellent condition. HE 5-6102 .

1965 ENVOY EPIC — LOW MILE -age, good condition, $750 . Call 263 -5248 .

Automobile—Parts

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GASTOWN SOUL

FASTER THAN THE SPEED O FSound! That's how fast they'll read,Friday, Nov. 15th, 7:00 & 9:00 atEvelyn Wood's Reading Dynamic sMini-Lesson . 1900 W. Broadway .

LINCOLN ALEXANDER—THE CON -servatives Soul (sole?) Urban M.P .Nov . 22 .

RENT THE PAISLEY MULTICOL -ored Strobic Light-Show to mak eyour party or dance happen . Rea-sonable rates. Paul 731-7301.

AQUA SOC : — FILM AND LECTUREon Diving in Carribean by GinoGemma. 8 :00 p .m. Hebb Theatre,Thursday, Nov . 14 .

PSYCH - SOUL - ROC KSUB, NOV. 15, 9 - 1

Guys $1 .50 - Girls $1 .2 5

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ESSAYS TYPED . REASONABLErates . Call June 261-4122 .

EXPERIENCED TYPIST, — ESSAYS ,etc . Seas . rates. Phone 738-7881 .

TYPING. PHONE 731-7511 . 9 :00 T O 5 :00 after 6 :00 — 266-6662 .

APEX TYPING SERVIC E(Mrs . Gow)

Mimeographing, Typin g4370 W. 10th

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Rates : Students, Faculty & Clubs—3 lines, 1 day 75*, 3 days $2.00 .

Commercial—3 lines, 1 day $1.00, 3 days $2 .50.

Rates for larger ads on request .

Classified ads are not accepted by telephone andare payable in advance.

Closing Deadline is 11 :30 a .m. the day before publication.

Publication Office: 241 STUDENT UNION BLDG., UNIVERSITY OF B.C., Vancouver 8, B.C.

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