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Mr. Speakers- I a^ sorry. Today, thejLe is no o^her

business except discussion on Ethics Coaaaittae*

(I nterrupt ?.ons)

There is no other business today. I am not entertaining

any other business today.

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Mr. Speaker:- I am s rry. In advance I told the House

that exclusive discussion on Ethics Committee would take

place today.

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Mr. Speaker:- Take" your seat. I don't allow any other

thing now. I categorically said.

Sri P. Ashok gajapathi Raju:- Before f present the

Report to the House, I would like to bring to the notice of

the House that there is a correction at page No. 3

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Mr. Speaker:- Please go to your seat. Please leave the

Well. Mr. Narasimhulu, I don't allow.

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Sri P. Ashok Gajapathi Raju:- Sir, as you have named

Sri Narasimhulu, under Rule 300 (2) I beg to move:

"That Sri M. Narasimhulu be suspended from the service

of the House for the duration of the day."

(Interruptions )

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Mr. Speakers- Yesterday I told that no ether business

would be taken up today.

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Mr. Speaker:- Ne^t time, I will take it up. This is not

the time Ramaiah g<*ru.

Sri P. Ashok Gajapathi Raju:- Speaker sir^ u-ader rule

300 (2) I h3Vtj* already moved a m ti Y gatw^ sri a^^^hah^l^

whom you hav?* named.

(Interruptions)

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Mr. Speaker:- I am sorry. Please co-operate vith the

Chair.

(Interruptions)

You told ô many things.

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Mr. Speaker:- That was over yesterday. I don't allow

any other thing now. I am sorry.

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Mr. Speaker:- I am sorry. I don't allow.

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Hr. Speakers- I told your Members. I told the House

that nothing could be taken up today except Committee on

Ethies*

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understand. I am very sorry Ramaiah garu. Is this the way of

behaving?

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Mr* Speaker:- Why do you raise all these things now? Today we have allotted one full day for Ethics. If you don't want, please*

(Interruptions)

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Mr. Speaker:- Today, I want to take up this issue of Ethics Report only.

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Mr. Speaker:- He was ready yesterday also. I myself

took a decision. I cannot wait for a long time. I waited

upto 5'0 Clock. Then I adjourned the House. I consulted your

leader also.

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Mr. Speaker:- I have consulted you on the issues which

were on the Agenda yesterday. I have consulted some leaders.

I obtained the opinion of the leaders. This is not correct.

I can also expose you. But, I don't like.

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Mr. Speaker:- This is not good Narasimhulu. You resume your seat*

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Mr. Speaker:- Yesterday the job was over. People are

laughing at us.

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Mr. Speaker:- P. Janardhan Reddy garu^ you are the

leader of a particular political party. I consulted your

Members. Shall I tell your name. What is this? It is not

good on your part.

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Mr. Speakers- Yes, I told him to take up. Government

was ready. But I consulted certain leaders. They told me

certain things. Then I got the House adjourned- I can expose

all the leaders* This is not correct.

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Mr. Speaker:- On the First day itself, if was decided

that 28th would be allotted exclusively for discussion on

Ethics Committeeo

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Mr. Speakers- Mr^ Narasimhulu, please take your sean. I

cannot take up any other issue now.

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I will permit you for five minutes.

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Mr. Speaker:- Let this subject be over. I will permit

you later.

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permit you to speak.

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33*^&-^ 1 am giving speech on Ethics Committee Report. Let

it be -over first. I can permit you thereafter. Mr. Narasimhulu

please resume your seat.

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Sri P. Ashok Gajapathi Raju:- Mr, Speaker Sir^ under

Rule 300 (2) I beg to moves

"Taat Sri M+ Narasimhulu be suspended from the service


Mr. Speaker:- Motion moved. The question is:

"That Sri M. Narasimhulu be suspended from the service


(Pause)

The motion was adopted and Sri M. Narasimhulu was

suspended ^rom House for the duration of the day.

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Mr- Speaker:- Leave him. His leader is requesting.

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Srj p. Ashok Gajapathi Raju:- Before, I move the

resolution, I just wanted to draw the attention of this

August House to Rule 258(G) 1 in page No. 3 of the Report of

the Committee on Rules wherein one word 'but', between

'including the Minister but 'other than the Speaker', is

misprinted. The sentence should be read like this 'A

complaint relating to the unethical conduct of the Member,

including a Minister, other than the Speaker' etc.

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Sri p. Ashok Gajapathi Rajus-Mr+ Speaker, Sjr, with

your permission:

"I beg to present the Report of the Committee on Rules

embodying the recommendations of the Committee on Ethics".

Mr* Speaker:- Report of the Committee on Rule is

presented. *

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"it is not easy to define what are the acts and deeds

which maybe deemed to bring Parliament a.nto disgrace. That

would require a considerable amount of discussion and

3306)5. !998 3 ( & ^ ^ 0 ^ § ^ ^ ^ ^.'^

exainination. That is one reason why we did not think of

enumerating these privileges and immunities. But there is

not the slightest^doubt in my mind, and I am sure also in

the mind of the Drafting Committee, that Parliament would be

so much exposed to calumny, to unjustified criticism that

the Parliamentary institutions in this country might be

brought down to utter contempt and may lose all respect

which Parliamentary institutions should have from the

citizens for whose benefit they operate."

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therefore, that a Member so obstructing the business of the

House cannot be required under S+0* No. 21 to withdraw from

the House for the remainder of the sitting. He is, however

guilty of a contempt of the House and may be named."

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some letting-off of steam, human natmre being what it is.

J. 325-3

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cannot be totally impermissible. But repetition of "Scenes"

saakes them stale, undignified, unpleasant and derogatory to

the country as a whole."

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9-40 Hr. Speakers-Mr. Narsimhulu, this is not good. Please

^1 take your seat. I have obliged when your Leader

requested. Please take your seat. This as not good* I

acceded to the request of the Leader of the Opposition.

Please, you accede to his request and obey the Chair. What

is this? This is not correct.

(Interruptions)

I have honoured the opinion of the Leader of the

Opposition. Please take your seat. This is not good.

(Interruptions)

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(o)$§ g & ^ g & O ^ ^000^03) ^

Then 1 have to call the Marshal. No. I am sorry; please

Narsimhulu. What is this? I don't allow. I have taken a

different subejct. Please take him away. I don't takeup any

other subject. What is this?_ Please take him away. You

should have minimum courtesy. We should maintain certain

discipline when we are takingup a very serious issue. After

that if you want you can raise.

(Marshals entered the House took Sri M. Narsimhulu out of

the House.)

(Addressing the Minister for Legislative Affairs you please

speak on the sobject.

Sri P. Ashok Cajapathi Raju:- Speaker Sir, today, in a

way we are fortunate, fortunate for this historic moment.

Probably we are the first Legislature in our country to take

up the issue of ethics and to discuss it in this August

House. Here the role you have played has made all of us to

feel proud. We live in an age where the moral values have

deteriorated, were despite the fact that people elect us,

they are finding it difficult to repsect us. We have to

command respect. Unfortunately, we demand respect* We can

only command respect if our behaviour is such that will help

us.

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&oOa6a<3 6(3oS^ e(XD^O^- if you look at the deterioration

angle, besides others, I cannot be exhaustive here, soft

state, the licence quota raj, distorted values, electoral

systems, discretions, even appointments and transfers and

various othex administrative factors have all contributed to

the deterioration of certain values, Sir, Besides that, our

economy itself has contributed willy-nilly to such a

situation. According to an estimate Sir, in our country in

1980-81, 41*73; of the money was unaccounted money? black

money. In 1997-98, it grew to 51.7%. This also definitely

has an impact on the people of the country and also on us as

ths*3r representatives. Rahatma Gandhi said, "It requires a

jaigh code oi morals, extreme vigilance on &he part of those

who are Atree from the corrupt practice and who have

influence over corrupc servants. Indifference in such

matters is criminal*! Unfortunately, we developed indifference

in ail th<:a& meters and not only we as people represen-

tataivea bua eyen bhe people are facing these difficulties

whj.ch have been created over the years. It is not my

intantion to fijs responsibility, Probably another wing of

the Constitution ^hich has to fix the responsibility. Hexe

it is not my intention to fix any responsibility. But it is

necessary, absolutely necessary that all democratic institu

tions or constitutional institutions have to come out of

this morass if Democracy has to be vibrant in these parts of

our country and if we are to set an example for all the

legislatores to follow. Lord Nolan who chaired the Committee

on 'Standardisation in Public Life' in England laid down

seven principles. They are selflessness, integrity,

objectivity, accountability, openness, honesty and last but

not the least is leadership. All these qualities seem to

have deteriorated. It is a step in the right direction that

the Ethics Committee has met and is involved in these

processes. Sir you are right, we have neither codified our

3d533oSbje iM 3 ^ 5 ^ 6^ 28 ;3Soa6. !998 23

privileges nor can we really codify what the ethical

standards ought to be because these will charge facm time to

time. If geniuses like Ambedkar could not codify on

privileges, I think, it will be fool-hardy for us to attempt

it. But our standards, peoples standards, change from time

to time. So it would be necessary in a similar way that the

Ethics Committee from time to time should . lay down its

principles and lay down on what it would do in case of

violation of these principles. Sir, the nation must be ruled

by its best elements or it will perish. We are on the road

to destruction. Sir, it is high time that w^ out of it and

move forward. In this connection sir, you are taking

interest in the ethics and bringing it to this August House

for discussion to enable all of us to express our views

freely so that democratic institutions can be taken to a

different plance and we become useful and relevant and also

command respect of our people. Thank you very much for

giving me this opportunity.

Mr. Speaker:- let the Members of the Ethics committt^

speak first.

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^$^y^, The trouble with the whole world is, the

stupid are sura and the intelligent are full of doubts. ^3

3$OiT, We want to change others. How difficult is to change

ourselves* You always consider now hard it is to change

others. &^3^rro$arrr, ^X^Mâaeorr &>;6o & !3ab*er3j) &r*5j, airao

^ggorr aSarreoS, ^^So eRgg3r3$a>,j6 ^ M o h&33 $ ^ e^6^ 6 ^

e3 e gs c&tr go s 6 ^ e3 3gorr Mark Twain said. When two

persons quarrel, when two parties quarrel both of them are

equally wrong. e§S"g3g^0 a*g)„, g ^ o 3*&n "^0^)0^" ^^g

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$r3aD^^r^&- Faith is flash in darkness* Knowledge is unfol

ding the light of the day and the reason is that road which

leads to success. There is no reason in the Assemblies and

there is no reason in the Parliament and people likely to go

astray.

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time teacher and there can be a part-time Government Servant

but there cannot be a part-time legislator. He is a

full-time Leislator. He is a full-time Minister. He is a full

time Chief Minister. What he does outside should be equally

an example to b^ emulated by common man. . eo&lg gs HS6 i3*

atR>&r3§S 30$ &3.,on* R&ar3,i dMô a^R^S* aBRoa^

5P$6^%. rro$rr& ?3*A3b - 'I always derive my politics

from ethics. Politics without ethics is like a body without

soul.'

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Thegre is best in every man aia t re is worest in every man.

You must know how to exploit goodness in you and become a

better human being so that the other people can emulate you

because you are an elected representative of the people.

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in English by Samuel Johnspn. 'The last resort for a scoundrel

is politics.' u*ag(RrS*„ Jg& $&,&) eoS ^g^c- 3gy^ 3*&t,

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6dS)33 &rô5^ 'A Member should not write recommendatory

letters or speak to Government Officials for employment or

business contracts for any of his relations or other persons

in whom he is directly or indirectly interested. B #§ 8,

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gti Assuddin Owaisi (Charntinar):- Speaker Sir, at the

outset X wale&3K3 ^he Report of the Committee on Ethics. ^

have to safeguard the Parliamentary system of Democracy. ^

have to preserve the dignity of the House. As regards the

Ethics, I would like to say that it is the function of the*

Ethics Committee to evolve those rules which could h^

followed because they are good in themselves whereas the 3.3

on the other hand consists of the rules which are recognise

and acted upon by Courts of justice. It balances the benef^

secured by its constitutents. Ethics concentrates

principles affecting man's conduct. The social relationshi

of man and the social consequences are ensuing therefrom

Most of the society considers the Ethics as motives whereas

law and the rules insist merrily on the compliance of conduct

with certain standards. Ethics deals with absolute idealism.

Law, morals and ethics are overlapping circles which can

never ccncide? but the need of man can move them and

determine the content that is common to all or confined to

one. In my opinion, the true laws of society are only those

which decide the treat of punishment. It obliges the

conscience of the citizens too. Aristotle as way back as 100

years ago in his Nicomakyam Theory of Ethi^^ said? "Ethical

man will do a lot for his friends atd fog his cai&Rtry. Re

will sacrifice money and property and will gladly surrender

positions and honours to others if necessary he will even die

for others and for his country." These are the things which

6:very legislator has to imbibe in him. Various jurists have

said y Many religious thinkers, authors and prophets have also

said; The holy books have also said? "God will not change a

man unless and until he changes what is wrong within

himself." Why was there the necessity for you to form Ethics

Committee? It is not because the Presiding Officers of the

State Assemblies have met in Simla, but because of the

standards which were lowering gradually, just because the

Members are not performing their due duties. It was because

that this House has been witnessing some un-parliamentary,

un-ethical and in-democratic behaviour of the Members. At the

same time it is also very wrong to blame the opposition also.

I am satisfied if an answer is given to me in this August

House and action has later followed on it. Even if an answer

is given, the next day a news-item will appear saying that so

and so Minister had given answer assuring that the particular

problem would be solved. When time passes, I see, that

assurance has not been fulfilled. Once again, the same

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problem is raised. What happends is that frustration creeps

in the Member. When frustration creeps in, then we see that

all these wrongs will come to happen here*

it-to }Sir, last year you have given me an opportunity. You

&- have sent me to the Common Wealth countries. I would

-=—*—! lik** to ment^a the incident that has happened there.

Myself and two other &As of our State were being introduced

to the other Members of the Common Wealth countries Youth

Parliamentarians and wnen they ^j-e told that we were from

India, every Member there thought that we were from U.P.

Assembly, They asked us: "How you people beat inside the

House?" That was the view held by them. We felt ashamed. We

said them sorry. We said that we were not from U.P. but were

from Andhra Pradesh. Our Assembly has not gone to that stage

and I hope it will not go to that stage, I said.

It is very important that we should always remember for

what purpose the people of Andhra Pradesh had sent us here.

We are not here to represent our egos. We should always try

to project the problems of the people over and above our

party lines. We belong to one party. We belong to one

idealogy. At the same time, we belive that the people's

problems are more important than our egos, than our

personalitieis and than all other things.

Another thing which I would like to say is that I am the

first time Member of this House. I have seen a number of

scenes where Speaker's table has been touched. Members have

gone there and started thumping on it. I have seen that

papers have been thrown on Speaker's place. This is very bad.

With the live-telecas- of the proceedings of the House,

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people are making us laughing-stock* We are being made the

butt of jokes. People asked us, you have raised a problem,

but beyond that you have acted in a very indecent manner.

Speaker Sir, as you have rightly pointedout in your

speech that the Press also has a role to play. I am not

against Press. I am for Freedom of Expression and Feeedom of

Press, But at the same time, there is a need that the

electronic media also do not try to project a Member ^s a

Hero who behaved in a very irdignified manner. Becaup^ of

their projecting in such a eray, it is ^v?"^ aeauragament. I

have also acted sometimes, because I also wantee ta be a patt

and parcel of the fixst page headline in the newspapers. As I

have acted so, I was suspended and I was thrown out. This has

all happended.

Speaker Sir, as the Hon'ble Finance Minister has rightly

pointedout., there is a fall jn the morals in the society. He

also said that it was because of economic things. 1 don't

believe that. I have seen many more poor people who have more

higher morals than me. I have sec*n many people who are lower

in the economic strata ^Aan me, but they have more strong

character and more committeda to the welfare of the people.

Their whole aim is that. Sir, one Urdu poet has said:

Thijs thing is v<2;ry important. It is the order of the day that

whatever has been submitted in the Ethics Committee by the

eminent journalists and eminent people of the society that we

try to imbibe in us. I thank you for giving me this

opportunity.

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opinion expressed by all politicians, legal luminaries, jour

nalists, professionals and people of all walks of life.

3B a,go <Rr3A, 3dbRo&R e336o &08* 3o&SS dir^^^3oo^^ <&rRA§t,-

Maf ia gang and criminals are commanding most of the politicians

in the country. They are entering into politics and carrying

illegal activities both inside and outside the House. On this

aspect in 1993, I remember very well, the then Home Minister

Sri S.B. Chavan appointed N.N. Vora Committee to submit a

report regarding nexus between politicians and criminals.

This is the origin that was discussed in Lok Sabha and Ra^ya

Sabha* A report was submitted to both Houses of Parliament on

1st August, 1995. This has been discussed by Parliament on

8th, 23rd and 24th August, 1995. Subsequently, an opinion had

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cSb &qMf3o& OQo$o3) *

developed. A meeting of all political parties should be

convened. 39^ 9$3$*)(3S30 S 3 ^ ^ & !5-9-95i$ e ^ & $ 6 rr yô

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3^d5jogycrobôe^3o&3§^Âê^go&oa' The Committee consists

of Sri S.B. Chavan^ Sri Sikander Bakth^ Srinjithi Kam^3 Sinha^

Sri E. Salana^day Sri G. Swatainathan, Smt. Renuka Chowdhary^

Sri Ram Gopal Yadav, Sri N. Giri Prasad and Sri Jayant Kumar

Malhotra. Because Sri N. Giri Prasad died, Sri Gurudas Gupta

was nominated afterwards as a Membe of the Committee. This

was inaugurated by the then Vice-President of India and the

Chairman of Rajya Sabha, now the President of India. 5 R

g ^ S ^ S ^ ^ S ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ? ^ ^ ^ * Because there is some

apprehension in the minds tsf the Members that the House is

restricting the freedom of the Members. 38* §*&JT* S*5&<,ar&

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3&y^ a>g &T& S ^ & - He described the Ethics Committee as a

High Level Committee imbued with prestige and influence. This

is the wording used by Sri K*R. Narayanan at that time. Sub-

sequently, they had gone to other countries. 33a3-3- 80^c3a3*aH

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pS5*&* They haê also toured various countries and submitted

their reports- This is the origin for the formation of Bthcis

Committee in the entire country* Sod)S** 3 3$orr 33ôB eS Rao

&H3*A&3- 5%Sgo rr A^Sr^ S^3o^ e $ ^ y$j5^ e6ao&- e&âo^

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!997 ?* aSrrcoo- Then all Presiding Officers decided to have

an Ethics Committee for every State. 3&B*8 & B R ^ O X ^ &Ho&5

g&^lj&r^ That was accepted by the Rules Committe on 7-11-97

This is the history and back-ground for formation of Ethics

Committee. This is the idea of proposed Ethics Committees in

all the states of the country. C&& &^J5* aPo^R* *R& U*3o30&*

^ A6&0&30&) 83*8o $Jtb&JS SoX S^$&TY& constituted the Ethics

Committee. The main concept of the Ethics Committee relates

to the conduct of the Members. Members mean and include

Ministers* There is no question of exemption of Ministers* It

includes the Chief Minister and Ministers both inside and

outside the House. There is al3? a feeling, why should he

have this Ethics Committee? Some people are raising it. My

opinion is: there are certain Rules inside the House to regu

late the business. Why should there be no rules and official

conduct regarding conduct of the Members outside the House?

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5 ?yj. o* The House of Commons lays down certain principles

of conduct of the Members* Already Sri Ashok Gajapathi Raju

had read them. They are selflessness, integrity, objectivity,

accountability, honesty and leadership. Keeping all these in

view, the Ethics Committee has to function. I would also like

to inform that we had inter-acted with so many people in

Delhi also. They are Sri Balayogi, the Hon'ble Spekaer of Lok

Sabha, Smt* Najma Heptulla, Hon'ble Deputy Chairman of Rajya

Sabha, Sri Shivraj Patil, Ex. Speaker of Lok Sabha, Sri Balram

Jakhar, M.P* and ex-Speaker of Lok Sabha, Sri S.B. Chavan,

M.P. and Chairman of Committee on Ethics in Rajya Sabha, Sri

Haleem, Speaker of West Bengal Legislative Assembly, Sri

K.N. Tripathi, Speaker of Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly,

Sri P. Shiv Shankar, M.P., Sri Jaipal Reddy, M.P., Sri

T.N. Chaturvedi, M.P., Dr. Subhas, C. Kashyap and Sri

S.L. Shakdhar. Sri Subash C. Kashyap is a person who worked

as a Secretary General. Sri Shakdhar is a person whom we

always refer in this House. We have also inter-acted with Sri

S. Gopalan, Secretary General and Sri S. Malhotra, Addl.

Secretary, Lok Sabha and Sri Tripathi, Addl. Secretary, Rajya

Sabha. We have met all of them and interacted. Subsequently,

we have met so many leaders here. 3S&.3& &*B* 8$5 3Xb j[oSco-

!2-20 i Qo^6c&rg^$ aH&ri) Bco&ny^^ ^ ^ o d n - 27, 2a 3*6goS%, ^* ^ we held so many meetings. <&5S58& &^, e03oy3r 3S 6g 6

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Sri Gade Veakat Reddy:- Sir, I am sorry. The Chief ,

Minister could not understand my real version. My opinion is

that the present position is like that. &3^& SR&o S^, J<T?

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Sir^ there are some amendments which we would like to

move. S3oRogr<9 &&3f^33 5?3%o sr?r 3jd^^^6o- aâfRJ^ 8X3 3o$3§, Jo^S^ eo&c" cSanp§&M3§3rr&, ^0^0 eo&y ^ ^ & o - g § e^ go^§o o ^ ^ § & ^ ^ K)8o5 srcr3bo8 &^5r& ^gu^y &xr^* Jg*oa

6§^ e^ 3 & R ^ 6 ^ 3rE* !T r e3^8o* We have framed certain rules

also. 636* 9&6S* S*3&3 M^§ D&eo j&r d)- The concerned ministers

will note down the points. §3* ag§8* OM&PS& §033^ ^ , US)

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Sri P. Ashok Gajapathi Raju:- Sir, the Hon'ble

Member was suggesting to club both Ethics and Privileges

Committees. Sir, ethics is basically the morality of an indi

vidual or a group. That is why technically it is differ from

privileges. That is my submission.

Mr. Speaker:- Reply is not required, because the

Member is entitled to give his amendments.

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issue on a non-party basic. So, I request him through you not

to cast such aspirations, which are not desirable. Here ê

are dicussing this issue beyond all these things. J. 335-9

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Sri Basheeruddin Babukhan (Bodhan) :- Mr. Speaker Sir, the philosophy q^ the Members .of this August House is reflecting the words of famous British Poet, Lord Tennison who said: 'to live by law, acting the law without fear, for, as the right of the right is to follow the fight where the wisdom is the scholar of consequences'. The institution of Legislature is one of the democratic constitutional bodies. Over the years, I felt that this institution has been reduced to a mere 'talking chamber'. In some places, in has also been reduced to a 'boxing ring'. We have the nuclear headed missiles. If I may be permitted .to say, sometimes, our mikes are becoming the missiles. This HkRise has also become a political battle field, where the Opposition criticizes the Government. From the beginning, our Hon?ble Chief Minister has been stating that the Assembly should not be used as the political battle field, as it is the forum for governance and for redressing the grievances, of the public at large. But, it is very unfortunate that some times, the will of the public as a whole is not being reflected here. When we refer to the debates on the Floor of the Parliament, we heard from the senior leaders viz., Jawaharlal Nehru, Medhu Lime etc., that every word they uttered in the House was used to appear on the front pages of the dad.ly newspapers. Now, even the Parliament debates no longer appear on the same front pages and they are being inserted 'somewhere in the middle of the pages. Sometimes, the debates are not of high order. We are here only to reflect the people's problems and for their redressal. By electing us, the people expect us to develop their constituencies &y all means possible. But, during Assembly sessions, wha/t I feel is rhat a majority of the Members do not get chance to speak.

In this Session itself, ?we have seen that the Zero Hour was extended beyond 4.00 p .*m., thus, the Hon' ble Speaker allowed as many Members as possible to speak about their constituency related issues and problems. It is quite necessary to evaluate, at the end of every Session, the achievements of the sittings and to what extent the Government is conceding to the demands made by the Membeis.

Sir, now, we are 'talking about political behaviour. We are talking about Etiquette. Most of these flow from our own religious scriptures. But, the fact is that even religious scriptures are going out of the lines. The duration of the Sessions, I feel, should be long enough, so that every elected representative of the people gets a chance to reflect the will and aspirations of the people on the Floor of the Assembly. &s per the report, it is mentioned that the Hon'ble Members are to be provided orientation programme which would enable

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to bring in a qualitative improvement, in reflecting the aspirations, needs and problems of the people by whom they are being elected, in the shortest possible time and also in the most effective manner* There is a need for introspection as to whether the elected representatives are discharging their duties upto the expectations of the public at large. No matter, as to which party forms the Government, but it is the primary responsibility of every Government to provide an effective administration for the benefit of tha people of the State as a whole. Even though the Government has made many attempts to develop the State, the other side is not satisfied.

A positive approach, a transparent approach and an open approach from both the sides, i.e., Government as well as the Members, must be necessary to develop the State in every aspect.

Lastly, Sir, with regard to criminalisation of politics, the political parties, at the time of giving tickets to contest in the elections, must âoose the right men. We cannot expect clean and honest politics, unless the criminals are denied to contest in the elections. So as to filter the criminals from the politics, more women candidates must be encouraged. I think, this may be possible only if a Bill providing 33% reservations for women is passed in the Parliament. I heartily congratulate the Hon*ble Speaker for having made this gigantic and timely exercise, which was never done before in the history of Andhra Pradesh, in evolving the Code of Conduct for the Members, in the form of Rules, of this August House.

With these few words, I conclude. Thank you for giving me this opportunity. Sir. :-40j ,. j€^ 3s*&a> o*&RoR)u*3> ( e * ^ ^ ) : - 39%gs\,, &3*d3 gjaRRgSS* 3o3&o

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Ms. Delta Godfrey (Nominated):- Hon'ble Speaker, Sir, the word * ethics' as defined by the dictionary is the science of morals and that branch of philosophy which is concerned with human character and rules of behaviour. As Rothay j&aid there is no outward sign of courtesy, that there is no rest of deep moral foundation. There is a charm in straight forward and truthful character without guide. The well read^human being is honest without fear of public opinion, there should be a sincerity of purpose, commitment and accountability. We are reflections of peoples' votes and like a mirror all actions are reflected back. The essence of ethics and politeness consists in conducting ourselves in word, 'deed' and mannerisms that others may be pleased with us and with themselves. Ethics should be actuated by a spirit of service, especially when it comes to people's representatives. The well read person with ethics is complete instinctively and with no thought of impressing others. Our manners are like a printed, page on which people read of what you are inside. The most practical and workable kind of politics is the politics of decency. The decency when we say should be reasonability down to earth, truthfulness, respect for others, respect for authority, respect for protocol. At the same time, we being people's representatives have to fulfill the aspirations of the people. Therefore, there should be a two track method of governance. The question should have clarity and definition and answers should also have clarity and definition^ We should

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lead with example. Washington said: "At the age of fjfteen labour to keep in your heart that little spark of celestial fire called 'conscience' which is themost important element". The ethics should be a symboiity. The Hon'ble Speaker has constituted the Committee on Ethics for the first time in the country and the Government here should be a symbol for ail other Governments in the country to follow what is laid out here. We should be here as leaders representing the rules that are laid down and we should follow certain practices with a moral conscience and we should follow protocol and authority that you have laid down. It is my sincere request that this should have taken place on the first day of the session itself but somehow you have given a start. It makes us all look in retrospect into ourselves to feel that we have to contribute the best we can. We are people's representatives with a truthful and conscience sense of feeling. Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity.

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Mr. Speaker :-This is not correct. Mr. Jeevan Reddy, you

must have observed the Members who had spoken by now on the

Floor of the House. You have to follow the same discipline.

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Mr. Speaker:-Yes. You give suggestions. But don't go to

the past.

Sri T. Jeevan Reddy:-Why not? What is ethics ?

&>;So R%&* 5*^6 &g3L 333 3S*gS eoD^ J§§^ <3a* e&tboB? Ethics includes not only the behaviour of the Member inside the House but behaviour of the Member outside the House. Besides that, honesty is very important. Honestly means^ political honesty. That political honesty is very important. oJ s* §3go&*

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Mr. Speaker:- That is not good. You are a lawyer. You have known all these things. Making allegation is different from speaking on Ethics.

Sri T.Jeevan Reddy:- I am not making any allegations.

Mr. Speaker:- You must understand how other Members Spoke.

Sri T.Jeevan Reddy:- I am also Senior Member. I cai. understnd what I speak.

Mr. Speaker:- You can't dictate to me. You have made some allegations against the Chair.

Sri T.Jeevan Reddy:- I am not making any allegations against anybody.

Mr. Speaker:-On which subject you are speaking ?

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Mr. Speaker:- You speak on the subject only.

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Mr. Speaker: You see, 1 allowed ten Members from your

side, ycu are the eleventh Member.

Sri T. Jeevan Reddy: It is a special debate.

Mr. Speaker: You should learn from your Members also.

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Mr. Speaker: That is my interest.

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Mr. Speaker: Why do you go to that subject?

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Mr. Speaker: At least you should respect the majority

opinion of the House.

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Mr. Speaker: This is not what we intend to.

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J. 325-14

Mr* Speakers 1 am sorry. You conclude.

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but a person is not supposed to be immoral* That is more

important.

Mr. Speaker:-! have mentioned in my speech,

Mr. Speaker:-Why do you say all these things ?

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Mr. Speaker :-I have permitted all other Members only for

five minutes. You are permitted fox ten minutes.

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Mr. Speaker:-! cannot spare more time.

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Mr. -p*?<akeft ^his 1^ not wj,th regard to :,uîri^^ of the

government. Y:t is with regard to our behaviour.

Mr. Speaker:-! am sorry, Jeevan Reddy garu. You are a

senior Member. I cannot say more than this.

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Mr. Speakers^ Why do you say all these th^g&. ?

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Mr. Speaker:-Entire country is watching us. Why do you

spoil the time ?

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Mr.Speaker:- It is very bad. You cannot speak whatever

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Mr.Speaker:- I will allow you to protest. You have every

right to protest in a democratic way.

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discuss over the subject. Don't deviate from it.

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I will supply the stastics. I have been analysing ever^'.hing

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Mr. Speaker: I assure the Members that I will protect the interests of all Members. There is no doubt about it. But whenever there is deviation, I vill disconnect the mike.

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Mr. Speaker:- I am to announce to the House that only

Two Nominations, one from Sri D. Sivarama Raju and the other

from Sri M.Vijayapal Reddy have been received to fillup the

two casual vacancies existing on Committee on Public Under

takings. I therefore, declare that Sri D. Sivarama Raju and

Sri M. Vijayapal Reddy are duly elected to serve on the

Committee on Public Undertakings.

2- e*R6 ajSs 336arKo*<bo 3o3)aog}e g&)4[5*

&3!$aJK)&g3 %*&6;3%3$3 J&jg RaRoA-

Mr. Speaker:- I am to announce that only one nomination

from Sri P. Narayanaswamy Naidu has been received to serve on

the Zonal Railway Users Consultative Committee of South

Eastern Railway. I therefore declare that Sri P. Narayana

swamy Naidu has been duly elected to serve on the Zonal Railway

Users Consultative Committee of South Eastern Railway.

28S&oSoa3b, !998*

3- 53*^ X & ^ Ko-og 3SC2ho o

Mr. Speaker

1. No. of days for which the Assembly sat

2* No. of hours for which the Assembly worked

127

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

16.

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

No. of Starred Questions answered orally .

No. of Supplementaries answered

No. of answers to Un-starred Question included in the lists and circulated to the Members (Printed list).

No. of Short Notice Questions answered

No. of Calling Attentions admitted and Statements made by the Ministers.

No. of Notices under Rule 304 admitted and Statements made by the Ministers.

No. of answers 'to Un-starred Questions placed on th*e Table of the House on 28.11.1998.

No. of answers to Starred Questions placed on the Table of the House.

No * of Speeches made by the Members

No * of Statements made by the Ministers

No. of Bills introduced

No.of Bills passed

No. of Short Discussions discussed

No. of Reports presented (including House Committee Reports)

11 days 80 Hrs. 20 Mts.

76

349

92

4

1

7

17

52

174

24

13

10

2

8

PARTY POSITION IN THE ASSEMBLY AS ON 28.11.1998

Telugu Desam Party

Indian National congress

Communist Party of India

Communist Party of India(Marxist)

Bharatiya Janata Party

Majlis Batchao Tahreek

A.I.M.I.M.

N.T.R. Telugu Desam Party(LP)

^ Independents

Nominated

Total:

217

27

18

15

2

I

2

1

11

1

295

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Mr. Speaker:- Now, with the consent of the House,

I adjourn the House sine die.

(The House then adjourned sine die

at 4.28 P.M. on 28.11.1998).

3- S55^cS iy&R&gS ^sro^ SSScreD-.

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