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COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY

BEFORE THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION

In the Matter of:

LOUISVILLE GAS & ELECTRIC COMPANY ______________________________________ ALLEGED FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH KRS 278.495, 807 KAR 5:022, AND 49 C.F.R. PART 192

) ) ) CASE NO. 2017- 00119 ) )

NOTICE OF FILING

Notice is given to all parties that the following materials have been filed into the

record of this proceeding:

- The digital video recording of the evidentiary hearing conducted on November 8, 2017 in this proceeding; - Certification of the accuracy and correctness of the digital video recording; - All exhibits introduced at the evidentiary hearing conducted on November 8, 2017 in this proceeding; - A written log listing, inter alia, the date and time of where each witness’ testimony begins and ends on the digital video recording of the evidentiary hearing conducted on November 8, 2017.

A copy of this Notice, the certification of the digital video record, hearing log, and

exhibits have been electronically served upon all persons listed at the end of this Notice.

Parties desiring to view the digital video recording of the hearing may do so at

https://psc.ky.gov/av_broadcast/2017-00119/2017-00119_08Nov17_Inter.asx.

https://psc.ky.gov/av_broadcast/2017-00119/2017-00119_08Nov17_Inter.asx

Parties wishing an annotated digital video recording may submit a written request

by electronic mail to [email protected]. A minimal fee will be assessed for a copy of this

recording.

Done at Frankfort, Kentucky, this 28th day of November 2017.

_________________________ Gwen R. Pinson Executive Director Public Service Commission of Kentucky

mailto:[email protected]

Honorable Allyson K Sturgeon Senior Corporate Attorney LG&E and KU Energy LLC 220 West Main Street Louisville, KENTUCKY 40202

Louisville Gas and Electric Company 220 W. Main Street P. 0 . Box 32010 Louisville, KY 40232-2010

Honorable lindsey W Ingram, Ill Attorney at Law STOLL KEENON OGDEN PLLC 300 West Vine Street Suite 2100 Lexington, KENTUCKY 40507-1801

Louisville Gas and Electric Company 220 W. Main Street P. 0 . Box 32010 Louisville, KY 40232-2010

Service List for Case 2017-00119

Sara Veeneman LG&E and KU Energy LLC 220 West Main Street Louisville, KENTUCKY 40202

Louisville Gas and Electric Company Louisville Gas and Electric Company 220 W. Main Street P. 0. Box 32010 Louisville, KY 40232-2010

In the Matter of:

COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY

BEFORE THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION

LOUISVILLE GAS & ELECTRIC COMPANY ALLEGED FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH KRS 278.495, 807 KAR 5:022, AND 49 C.F.R. PART 192

CASE NO. 2017-00119

CERTIFICATION

I, Stephanie Schweighardt, hereby certify that:

1. The attached DVD contains a digital recording of the Hearing conducted in

the above-styled proceeding on November 8, 2017. Hearing Log, Exhibit List and

Witness List are included with the recording on November 8, 2017.

2. I am responsible for the preparation of the digital recording;

3. The digital recording accurately and correctly depicts the Hearing of

November 8, 2017.

4. The Hearing Log attached to this Certificate accurately and correctly states

the events that occurred at the Hearing of November 8, 2017 and the time at which each

occurred.

Signed this 1 J1h day of November 2017.

ephanie Schweighardt, Nota State at Large Commission Expires: January 14, 2019 ID#: 525987

jJ!.V~ Session Report - Standard 2017-00119 08NOV2017

Louisville Gas and Electric Company

Judge: Bob Cicero; Talina Mathews; Michael Schmitt

Witness: Bryant Claypool; Daniel Ersoy; Joel Grugin

Clerk: Stephanie Schweighardt

Date: Type: Location: Department: 11/8/2017 Show Cause Hearing Hearing Room 1 Hearing Room 1 (HR 1)

Event Time

8:21:24 AM 8:21:27 AM 8:29:15 AM 8:29: 19 AM

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Log Event

Session Started Session Paused Session Resumed Chai rman Schmitt

Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie Chairman Schmitt


Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie Atty Lindsey Ingram

Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie



Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie Atty John Park


Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie Atty John Park



Preliminary Remarks

Introduces Vice Chairman Cicero and Commissioner Mathews

Stating reason for hearing

I ntroduces staff and witnesses

Explains other witnesses are available for questioning

Request due to t imeline of hearing, if one witness is not finished, would like to suspend until next hearing Chairman Schmitt states that will not be a problem

Introduces Witness

Reviews petition for confidentiality.

Calls Witness Joel Grugin to the stand

Swears in Witness

Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, State name, employment and job position

Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Previous employment Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to Witness being certified as a Lead Inspector Stephanie

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Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the exam taken to become a lead inspector


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Witness preparing the gas pipeline safety branch incident Stephanie investigation report, August11 2016 regarding an incident that

occured in Oldham County, KY on Sep 17, 2014. Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the Witness' notification of inspection needed Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding time to prepare the report Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the document Attachment B to report, failure of coupling Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to Executive Summary, page 3 of the report and factors Stephanie that contributed to the failure. Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking about the harness and referring to the GTI report Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Diagram of a coupling to show on the projector and part of the Stephanie report. Laptops Activated Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to point out the components of the harness diagram Stephanie Chairman Schmitt



Confirming all parties are able to view the diagram shown on the projector. Parties confirm they can see the sl ide.

Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to point out the two sections of pipe


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the number of couplings needed on the segment of Stephanie pipe shown Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding guage and bolts used for a 12 inch pipe Stephanie Laptops Deactivated Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Maximum Operating Pressure Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Referring the inspection of the weld quality Stephanie Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the installation not properly rated Stephanie

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8:53:29 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the report and the design operating pressure

Stephanie 8:53:45 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding daily pressure readings provided by LG&E, and operating Stephanie pressure

8:54:09 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the GTI Fa ilure


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the couplings system on the 12 inch pipe Stephanie

8:55:49 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the defect of the installation on the 8 inch pipe

Stephanie 8:56:50 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if Witness he has seen this kind of fa ilure before Stephanie

8: 56:57 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if concerned of other installations like this and what

Stephanie would be the probable cause 8:57:22 AM Vice Chai rman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if ignition what would have happened Stephanie

8:57:58 AM Vice Chai rman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking how many structures were around this line

Stephanie 8:59:04 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if incident ould have been much worse Stephanie

8:59:20 AM Commissioner Mathews Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking how many homes where within the area

Stephanie 8:59:53 AM Chai rman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Asking how witness retained a copy of the GTI report and why was Stephanie GTI asked to examine the parts

9:00:39 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking if report was prepared by GTI by LG&E request

Stephanie 9:01:00 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Grugin

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding testimony of pipeline maximum pressure Stephanie

9:02:42 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Referri ng to the gas pipeline exceeding 3001bs


Note: Schweighardt, Referri ng how long the pipeline was in the ground Stephanie

9:03:28 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking if the failure occured during or after the excavation


Note: Schweighardt, Asking if the contractor contribute to the failure of the pipe or in Stephanie the GTI Report


9:04:57 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Referring to attachment C of the report


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to Table 79.2- how many luges needed Stephanie

9:06:17 AM Atty John Park Direct Exam of Witness Grugin Note: Schweighardt, Asking with only 4 luges, MOP could not have been 300 and were

Stephanie less than 9:07:00 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram

Note: Schweighardt, Ca lls Witness Lonnie Bellar to the stand Stephanie

9:07:10 AM Chairman Schmitt Note: Schweighardt, Swears in Witness

Stephanie 9:07:18 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to state full name, his employer and job title Stephanie

9:07:36 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar 9:09:22 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to explain why he is here today Stephanie

9:09:40 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to explain what happen on the day of the event in

Stephanie Sept 2014 9: 11 :30 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the installation of the coupling Stephanie

9:11:47 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if the stated information is acurate information


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the GTI Failure report and if company disagrees with Stephanie the report

9:12:33 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Di rect Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the installation failure of the coupling and what LGE did

Stephanie to address the problem that became known 9:14:49 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if it is fair to say the company develop a plan of Stephanie action

9:15:07 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to part of plan of action to improve followup inspection

Stephanie reports 9:16:01 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if Mr. Daniel Ersoy involved with the preparations of the GTI Stephanie Failure Report

9:16:17 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking did company hire Mr. Daniel Ersoy to assist with the review


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Arsoy's prepared report Stephanie

9:17:03 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the plan of action the company has developed

Stephanie


9:17:46 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the first category of the plan of action


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the use of the couplings on a limited basis and the Stephanie training of installation of the couplings

9:20:38 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the plan of aciton of the removal of the couplings and

Stephanie has company began this action 9:22:55 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding what LGE plans to do with data collected with the Stephanie removal process

9:23:28 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the removal process


Note: Schweighardt, Asking if LGE has taken steps to communicate to others in areas Stephanie where these couplings may be

9:24:54 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the third component of the plan of action


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the Oct 2017 written report by Mr. Ersoy of GTI, Stephanie section 4 and 5

9:26:26 AM Atty lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to describe the company's consideration of the items

Stephanie in section 4 and 5 9:27:10 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Referring to section 3 Stephanie

9:28:04 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to early 2000s, LGE untook a policy not to use mechanical

Stephanie systems on the transmission side and to start replacing these 9:29:11 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding decison made to determine how many couplings were on Stephanie the transmission system

9:30:40 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if LGE determined how many coupling systems have been

Stephanie installed on transmission side 9:31:22 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking of the ten, how many are still in service Stephanie

9:31:47 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if the existence of the coupling was know to LGE before the

Stephanie incident occured 9:32:21 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking did LGE know the coupling was there before excavation Stephanie began

9:33:17 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if any steps taken to reduce pressure or risk of coupling

Stephanie failure 9:34:01 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking before separtion occured and before coupling system know, Stephanie any plans to replace the coupling system

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9:35:02 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding coupling system that failed installed in 1998 and why

Stephanie installed 9:35:43 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding timeframe LGE used these couplings system on the Stephanie transmission system

9:36:06 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding removing couplings system and if any stress points

Stephanie 9:37:21 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding 1986 PHMSA advisory bulletins Stephanie

9:38: 14 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking did LGE employees undertake any training prior to the

Stephanie incident 9:38:54 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding PHMSA report fi led by LGE Stephanie

9:39:01 AM POST HEARING DATA REQUEST Note: Schweighardt, UPDATED PHMSA REPORT


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Grugin's report - operation and maintenance plan Stephanie

9:41:33 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if LGE disputes the configuration of installment


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the two injuries from the event Stephanie

9:43:21 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding property damage from the incident


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the dollar amount of the property damage Stephanie

9:44: 20 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the staff report PHMSA report, page 3 part D, Section 7

Stephanie 9:45: 19 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding 7 C of same report Stephanie

9:45:47 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to Line 7 D -estimated other cost


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding report cost of damage, $1,324,000 Stephanie

9:47:02 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding how much gas was released

Stephanie 9:47: 19 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking over how long of a period did the gas release occur Stephanie


9:48:03 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding consequences could have been much more servere


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Grugin's testimony of in a high consequence area Stephanie

9:49:48 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding when a section of pipeline is classified as an HCA


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the PHSMA report filed for this incident Stephanie

9:51:17 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Attachment A staff report, PHMSA Report, page 3 part D, line 3


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding KRS 278 992, payment of penalty and size of business Stephanie

9:53:26 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding plan going forward and appropriate precautions

Stephanie 9:54:59 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the ten couplers identified in transmission system Stephanie

9:56:04 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the seven removed and any others discovered


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding multiple installation failures Stephanie

9:57:12 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding procedures in place that should have been followed


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding practice going forward and retraining involved Stephanie

10:00:14 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Referring to new process going forward and making sure operators

Stephanie will be retrained 10:01:14 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding when couplers will be used in the future Stephanie

10:02:19 AM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding no circumstance above 601bs that couplings would be

Stephanie used 10:03:39 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding pipline originally installed Stephanie

10:04:16 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding a data request that asked who installed the pipeline

Stephanie 10:05:49 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding why was the coupler was installed Stephanie


10:06:20 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the repair made and who made the repair


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the number of welders Stephanie

10:08:13 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding welder responsible for the entire repair


Note: Schweighardt, Referring to the supervisor of the welder and the supervisor's job Stephanie

10:09:03 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if someone was supervising the supervisor


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding someone inspecting the weld Stephanie

10:09:43 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking if the welder is still employeed


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding work performed by Southern Pipeline Stephanie

10:11:29 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the number of coupers in placed on distribution lines


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding couplers replaced so far Stephanie

10:12:50 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking from date of incident to today, do you kow how many have

Stephanie been removed 10:13:50 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking what will you do if the information received shows there are Stephanie problems

10:14:50 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE third party contracts


Note: Schweighardt, Asking if LGE has anyone who spot-checks the welders Stephanie

10:18:05 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Asking how much does LGE expects the cost will be for removing

Stephanie one coupling 10:20:09 AM Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding leak survey - incident of leaks from pipe that has been Stephanie joined by couplers greater then pipe that have been welded

10:21: 10 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram ReDirect Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding removal of couplings


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding removal Stephanie

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Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar Note: Schweighardt, Regarding a properly installed coupling being safe

Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding no other inspection other than by welder himself Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the qualiifications to be a supervisor Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking how many years experience the supervisor has before being Stephanie a team supervisor Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE not doing a basic inspection Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding who inspects a contractors work Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if LGE employee on site wihen contractor is doing the repair Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding if LGE would want to know if repair is correct Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding examining a job when it is completed Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note : Schweighardt, Regardng the process of inspections Stephanie Commissioner Mathews Cross Exam of Witness Lonnie Bellar

Note: Schweighardt" Regarding the total budget set aside for the removal of the coupling Stephanie Chairman Schmitt

Note: Schweighardt, BREAK Stephanie Session Paused Session Resumed Atty Lindsey Ingram

Note: Schweighardt, Calls Witness Daniel Ersoy to the stand Stephanie Chairman Schmitt

Note: Schweighardt, Swears in Witness Stephanie Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Ask Witness to state name and employer Stephanie Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if aware of the incident that occur Sept 2014 Stephanie Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding GTI being contacted to preform a failure analysis report Stephanie


10:58:02 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to describe what GTI did to develop the report

Stephanie 11:00:45 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding being contacted by LGE to provide assistance in Stephanie developing a plan of action

11:01:09 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness to describe the work he did to provide the

Stephanie assistance to LGE 11:02:34 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding report that has been submitted as part of the record in Stephanie this proceeding

11:02:49 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Asking witness of his opinion of the Plan of Action LGE has

Stephanie developed 11:05:33 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Page 4 of October 2017 Report Stephanie

11:06:22 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE's inspection process and efforts

Stephanie 11:11:28 AM Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Witness's experience and qualifications Stephanie

11:16:17 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Witness' recommendation of the removal of the couplings

Stephanie 11:23:56 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE collecting data to decide to remove couplings Stephanie

11:25:55 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the Witness' role with LGE's developing the framework or

Stephanie action plan 11:27:32 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding the replacement of the three remaining systems Stephanie

11:30:55 AM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Witness giving an opinion of LGE prior to risk and action

Stephanie plan 11:32:16 AM Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding leaving couplings in the ground Stephanie

11:33:01 AM Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Asking if Witness would agree this coupling was done incorrectly

Stephanie 11:33:33 AM Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding could any type of inspection have occured Stephanie

11:38:19 AM Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Regarding no inspection had occured

Stephanie 11:42:30 AM Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness does LGE spot check on a regular basis Stephanie


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Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if he thought whoever installed it was qualified and

Stephanie proficient Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding negligence Stephanie Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding coupling being installed correctly or incorrectly Stephanie Vice Chairman Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Grugin's report Stephanie Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE employee put in the wrong number of rods Stephanie Chairman Schmitt Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regardaing multiple fai lures Stephanie Atty Lindsey Ingram ReDirect Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE never experienced a separation on its high pressure Stephanie system Atty Lindsey Ingram ReDirect Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding options with couplings Stephanie Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding record established of couplings removed Stephanie Commissioner Mathews Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding course of action, if installed incorrectly Stephanie Commissioner Mathews Cross Exam of Witness Daniel Ersoy

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding summary of cost Stephanie Chairman Schmitt




Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie New Event


Atty Lindsey Ingram states he has one other witness and would then request a brief recess. Ask for any other witnesses

Chairman Schmitt is in agreement.

Calls Witness Bryant Claypool to the stand

Swears in Witness

Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Ask Witness to state name, employer and describe work history

Stephanie with LGE Atty Lindsey Ingram Direct Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding being on LGE crew for the job in 1998 Stephanie Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Distributes PSC Staff Exhibit # 1 Stephanie


12:04:33 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding PSC Staff Exhibit # 1

Stephanie 12:05:24 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Witness' role of the installation Stephanie

12:05:55 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Supervisors present and what were the different crews

Stephanie doing 12:06:59 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Asking what his crew was involved with Stephanie

12:07:18 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Ball's role


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding work reports for other crews Stephanie

12:07:56 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Section on left side under Results, listed as "good"


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding testing of pipe Stephanie

12:09:07 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding training witness and others would have received


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding being a part of any other crew involved with installation Stephanie of coupling systems

12:10:38 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding number of couplings installed


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding classroom training and any records kept Stephanie

12:11:22 PM POST HEARING DATA REQUEST Note: Schweighardt, Training Records


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding working with Mr. Ball Stephanie

12: 12:18 PM Atty John Park Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Regarding LGE process of reviewing insta llai ton records of couplings


Note: Schweighardt, Regarding if LGE looked for other installations that involve Mr. Ball Stephanie and his crew

12:13:33 PM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Recall how long you worked for Mr. Ball

Stephanie 12:14:25 PM Vice Chairman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if it was common practice for one forman to review another Stephanie forman's work


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Vice Chai rman Cicero Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if he every welded

Stephanie Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding Mr. Ball being a forman and what type of crews did he Stephanie supervise Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Asking Witness if he would take all of the necessary tools and parts Stephanie to make the repairs Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if he had an operations manual with you and on the truck Stephanie Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Asking if the welder would know if welding was needed on one or Stephanie both sides Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding being a member of the union and if management was Stephanie present Chai rman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding who would make the inspection Stephanie Chairman Schmitt Cross Exam of Witness Bryant Claypool

Note: Schweighardt, Regarding no tell ing how many of these couplings were installed Stephanie using the wrong parts Chairman Schmitt

Note: Schweighardt, Ask for any other witnesses Stephanie

Note: Schweighardt, No other Witnesses Stephanie Chairman Schmitt





Note: Schweighardt, Stephanie Session Paused Session Resumed Atty Lindsey Ingram




Accepts document as PSC Staff Exhibit # 1

PSC Staff to File PHDR by November 15

LGE to reply by November 22

Request 10min recess

BREAK

Request to file post hearing brief

Date to file post hearing briefs by December 15

Adjourned

12:36:33 PM Session Paused


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*Denotes Served by Email Service List for Case 2017-00119

*Honorable Allyson K SturgeonSenior Corporate AttorneyLG&E and KU Energy LLC220 West Main StreetLouisville, KENTUCKY 40202

*Honorable Lindsey W Ingram, IIIAttorney at LawSTOLL KEENON OGDEN PLLC300 West Vine StreetSuite 2100Lexington, KENTUCKY 40507-1801

*Sara VeenemanLG&E and KU Energy LLC220 West Main StreetLouisville, KENTUCKY 40202

*Louisville Gas and Electric Company220 W. Main StreetP. O. Box 32010Louisville, KY 40232-2010

*Louisville Gas and Electric Company220 W. Main StreetP. O. Box 32010Louisville, KY 40232-2010

*Louisville Gas and Electric CompanyLouisville Gas and Electric Company220 W. Main StreetP. O. Box 32010Louisville, KY 40232-2010

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