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TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE. THIS IS DETECTIVE SKUTA. TODAY'S DATE IS JANUARY 31ST, 1990. CASE NUMBER IS 90 01 31 0233. LOCATION IS UH, 700 BLOCK OF EAST 6TH STREET. UH, I'M IN MY VEHICLE. THIS IS A STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO, UH, INVESTI­GATION OF A DEATH AT, UH, 737 EAST 6TH STREET.

Q Sir, would you state your full name please?A My name is BERUZ(ph) MOFIDI(ph) SHIRAZI. (Ahem)..excuse me.Q Alright, and for the, uh, secretary's benefit that's ... your

first name is B-E-H-R-U-Z?A Yes.Q And middle name is M-O-F-I-D-I, and last name is S-H-I-R-A-Z-IA Yes sir.Q O k a ^ ^ ^ A n ^ v o u ^ d a t e of birth, sir?

Q And your address?A Uh, 749 East Sixa(ph) Street, Tucson, Arizona, 85719.Q And your phone number, sir?A Uh, 622-1894.Q And are you a U.S. citizen?A I'm permanent resident.Q Alright. Do you have a social security number?A Yes sir.Q And it is...do you remember it?

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A Yes.Q Alright. And how long have you, uh, lived in...here in TucsonA I moved in...yeah, I moved in on twenty-six or twenty-sixth

twenty-seventh of, uh, December.Q Just this...1989?A Yes.Q And where did you live before that?A Stockton, California.

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Alright, and how long did you live there? About three years.Alright. And your nationality, sir?Uh (inaud).Alright. And how long have you lived in this country?Uh, the first time I came by was 1972.Alright.I was going to school and I went back home and came back.And you became a citizen when?Permanent resident...Permanent... . .1976 .1976? Are you employed, sir?I was...I'm working in the Mosque...right here...Alright.... at the Mosque.What are your, uh, duties?Uh, I am translating the ____________(inaud) to far sealanguage. The Persian language.Alright. In regards to your...when did you start here at this Mosque?Uh, (ahem)..excuse me. I heard about Doctor Khalifa about ten years ago. I read the newspaper back in New York... about this...the miracle of nineteenth(p h ). But, actually, I become a ...became...a believer on a...third month of last year.Alright.And...(ph) . . .Is that when you came here to live?No. No, no.

Q I mean came here to be with, uh, with him?A Exactly. Exactly. That's___________________________________

(inaud).Q And then you moved in...A ...moved in over here.

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Q ...uh, when an apartment became available?A Yes. Yes. I came by..a couple of months before that and.,

to look around and I went back home. I'm sorry, before I come, I said, RASHAD, I would like to come o..come in and check it out. I want to move over there. He said, what you waiting for, I have your desk ready and your apartment is ready to.

Q Alright.A So..that's why I'm here_______________ (inaud).Q Now...the apartment that you're, uh, you're in, is that owned

by. . .A Yes, Doctor Khalifa.Q Alright.A Yes.Q And you pay rent for that?A Well, he said, uh, by the time you have not got the job...

________________(inaud) . . .Q Ah-huh.A ...I'm not going to charge you rent.Q I see. So that's part of your wages then?A Sort of..I'd say.Q Alright. And your occupation basically, is a religious

translator...then?A Yes.Q Okay. And you, uh, you obviously have a close relationship.,

you had a close relationship with, uh, M...Doctor KHALIFA?A Exactly. He has become my father.Q Alright. You'd see him everyday?A Yes.Q Were you, uh, pr...did you have privileged information as

to, uh, not only his religious, uh, beliefs and his work, but also some of his personal life?

A Other words you mean, do I know anything(p h )...Q Did y..did you know his family and...and did you...A No, no, no. No, not at all. No.Q You know his son and daughter at all?A Now I know 'em(ph), yes.Q Okay I...and his wife?

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A YesWas his wife active in the Mosque?Uh, not really.Alright. Was she a believer...Yes...in..in his..in his religion?He was telling me...yes. Yes. And actually, twenty-seventh of this month, couple days ago, they were the twenty-seventh of their anniversary.I see.She came in...and they went out for dinner.I see. Now we have been told that recently, because of, uh, some statements that Doctor KHALIFA has made publicly about being a messenger of God..Right.... that..that caused some trouble with some other..Sure..exactly....within the Muslim religion, is that what...?It's not actually the Muslim religion itself.Okay.Uh, he got...he's been working...uhhhh..trying to work out the Ghoran(ph), believe twenty years.Alright.And God reveals the secret of Ghoran to him. That was___________ (inaud) for fourteen hundred years. Now to this,God revealed to him that you are the messenger.Alright.And we became a believer, we came over here. Now he's telling everybody in the world, that only God, nothing but God, forget about all the prophets that you're idolizing, they are good prophets but they ________ (inaud) die. Now, all we have to...Only when they're mortals.Right. We have to get together and worship only one God.And this is against all the religion in the world. Because they always have someone beside the religion. They thought God is enough...God himself is not enough for the religion.

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A Islam needed Mohammed, uh, Christianity needed Jesus, Mos...uh, Judism needed Moses and so on and so forth. And...his message, God's message actually, was that just only sent(ph) me to God alone, and that is happiness. And that's how come everybody in the world is against him and the whole thing, which I looked at it is...three days ago, he faxed a message to whole world(ph)...he has been faxing this message all over the...years to..especially to Saudi Arabia and Arab countries because they are..those are the ones...they, uh, are not...they did not fulfil the sub­mission, to his(ph) law(ph). So he faxed the fact, coming from God that asks(ph) for..

Q A..a written...was it a written word?A A written...a written word..___________(inaud)..Q In English?A In English, yes. Every time was in English.Q Alright.A Send it all over the world. And, uh...Q But he faxed it to...A He faxed it to the leaders of the world. Uh, two years ago,

when he became a messenger...Q The leaders of the...A Arab..Q ...Arab world or the...A All the world.Q ...the free world?A Every free world.Q Communist world?A United Nation...probably communist world. I don't have...Q Alright.A ...I don't recollect it, but...uh, we know that all these

doors of communism being opened is because God's will.Q Alright.A Because the message would be free to go all over the world.

And it's gonna(ph) be open up all over. It's...Q Alright.A ...beautiful freedom is gonna be all over, everybody has

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Q Let me ask you this. Somewhere in his office...A Ah-huh.

...is there documentation of where he sent these messages? Probably. Sure.For all the different machines?Sure, sure we have the addresses...Alright.... on data base.Alright.Sure.Did you work with his computer?I did work with the..as a matter of fact, couple of weeks ago,I was, uh, correcting the new addresses.I see.From(ph)...up-dating them. I guess.Also recently we understand that he has received some threats? Yes.Uh. . .This is not...listen please(p h )...he has been given...you know..receiving these threats from all over the world...Okay....especially Arab countries. But two days ago, I..I heard it just like you heard it. That, uh..two detectives...Right....and he told one of our brothers that it was a...two gentlemen from F.B.I. brought in some pictures from inside the message(p h )...say here is...watch it. You're being watched and...uh..you watch yourself, that's all I heard.But that(ph) this morning, when we talked to the policeman, he said, uh, some terrorist group ... they're(p h )..you know., against him, they were gonna terrorize him. But this is not(ph) something(p h )...Does he...has there been anybody strange around here...Uh. . ....that you didn't know?Not that I can recall. Their(ph) son(ph) is strange, as far as the beliefs, but...it's not...

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Q Okay, I mean...I mean strange as far as sight. Someone thatyou didn't know...

A Uh. . ....sneaking around, uh, taking photographs, driving around.Uh. . .Anything that you remember?No, no. Not that I know. No.Did, uh.. .Uh, there was. . ....Doctor KHALIFA confide in you about anything that he was in fear of?No.By na..by a person's name or anything like that?Uh...no. No. But we had like... excuse me...in Christmas time, there was a Sweden guy, he's coming from Sweden, and he said, uh...he had some different beliefs and idea...uh.. and..they told him, please...he tol..asked him please leave the Mosque. We don't...we don't want you with this(ph) ideas. And then one of the brothers find out that, uh, he had the phone number of Saudi Arabia's Embassy's ... in his., briefcase. And... then..yesterday, that guy...uh..somebody sent him a package over here, he returned it to somebody in... uh, Michigan I guess. I'm not exactly... I'm not..you know.. I'm not sure about the address. But that was the only personeverybody was kind of..you know...a suspicious_______________________ (inaud)..And he was from Sudan(ph)?Sweden, Sweden.Sweden?Yes. You know it came back(ph phrase).You know what this person...ERIC...I don't know his last name. Everybody knows_____________________(inaud)...Oh.We have his address, phone number.

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A But everybody thought that he's making note of everything.Ah...Doctor KHALIFA was saying...uh(p h ), like...

Q Did Doctor, uh, KHALIFI(ph) keep notes on threats? Did hewrite down...

A I really don't know. No. The best person would be Lisa.Q Alright.A She would know about...Q What about threats on the phone?A Uh, I didn't hear it but he said, "I'm getting threats on the

phone."Q Have you ever answered the phone and received a threat...A No.Q ... against him?A Not that I...no. I didn't.Q Now you were here last night?A Exactly.Q At, uh, prayer?A Seven-thirty_________ (inaud).Q Were you here before that?A Yes, I...yesterday, I was here, Tuesday in the morning.

Yesterday... after seven-thirty at night.Q Alright.A And I said, "RASHAD, I won't be able to come back tonight,

because I'm very, very tired." A..and..I loved it..you know., to come early because... this is how I translate the Koran early in the morning, my mind is so fresh. So..but I couldn't. I just couldn't get up, and...____________________(inaud)..

Q Got up this morning you mean?A Yes.Q Okay.A And so five-thirty as normal, as usual, I got up and took a

shower and came by. And we have...six o'clock we do the prayer. And after that we have a..like...five, six of us..you(ph) know(ph)...had a class. ____________________________________(inaud).

Q So when you got up this morning, as soon as you opened thedoor, you saw who?

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I saw two cops, two policemen.Okay.They were running that way, it was really dark and I..as soon as I ran over there, I saw, uh, his sister saw it, and Lisa.Saw it was BEHRUZ(ph), how come you didn't come tonight?How come you didn't spend the night with him(ph), and Lisa... was..she said, BEHRUZ, get a hold of yourself. Then I found out this, uh(ph)...had(ph) happened(p h ).Alright. So you hadn't, or you haven't been into the...No, no, no....Mosque at all?I haven't seen it, no.So you haven't seen his body?N o, n o .What time did you go to bed last night?My wife called me last night about nine-thirty, nine-twenty, and she was wondering how come I didn't call her, I said, sweetheart..you know..I'm so..so tired.Ah-huh.So I couldn't...I was so tired when I was talking to her.And then you went to sleep right after that?Yes, yes. I went to bed..eight o 'clock... eight-fifteen, but., she woke me up.Alright.Sort(ph) of(ph) nine-twenty-five, I guess(ph).Did you hear or were you disturbed at all last night by anything in your sleep?No. No.Arguing? Loud noises?Na(ph), na(p h )...not(p h ) the(ph)...You didn't hear any gunshots or anything?No, no. That's what I asked Lucille. She lives next door.She didn't hear anything.Dr. KHALIFA'S in the habit of sometimes working all night long? Yes. Yes, God(ph) bless(ph) it(ph), he worked... believe me, he sometimes work..as he was saying all the time, I work nineteen hours a day, but..he really was. He really was.

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Do you know what his plans were for last night?Last night when he left, he put his jacket on, he said,"I'm going to sleep at home. I hope I can sleep at home, but if not, I'll be back."Okay.And, uh, as I was talking to his son, he said that he woke him up three-thirty or something... last night. Told him that...he told...hm...something. I..I'm sure it was private, but he said, "Son, I pro..I'm proud of you." A..and he left.He came by with a..._________________ (inaud)...So you talked to...Sam?SAMMY KHALIFA.And he said his father left about three-thirty?He said...yeah, they talked to each other that time. But I don't know what time he left _______ (inaud)...And he was on his way ho...and he was on his way home? Apparently, yes. That's what he told.._______________ (inaud).Recently there had been some trouble here with, uh, MAHMOUD, and his wife, Linda?Yes, this guy. I...this guy..right here...Okay....this(p h ) apartment(p h ).Do you...Uh...I (p h ) know(p h )......know what that was about?I...sort of..I heard about it. But, I really...uh, do not know the whole a story, but the thing is, they didn't divorce, they didn't separate it(ph), and all I know, the wife..._______________ (inaud) came and took the children, took his___________ (inaud), took his computer. Uh..she was..uh..coming over here to get his car. And two times she came by..by policemen and...last time Doctor KHALIFA, uh, hada complaint against her... for the______________________ (inaud).And that was it.Do you know if, uh, do you know if she owned a gun?Yes, I heard. Uh, as a matter of fact, uh...on nineteenth... one-thirty, I woke up and, uh, I stroll(ph) around sometimes... and I was...as I was going to...passing the office, I saw him and one of our friend's ... brothers came in. Just came from, uh, Canada.

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A And I ran inside, we had a cake and coffee, and he said,let's go..three of us_________________ (inaud) around andthen we go to sleep. And let's go take BEHUTH(ph) home.And, uh, then he went to...___________________ (inaud) came back,he showed us the guns(ph)________________________________________________(inaud).

Q And who had the gun?A Doctor KHALIFA. And...Q What kind of a gun was it?A ...and then I found out..it was a small black gun.

Small gun? Black gun?Yeah, yeah. Jmd then I found out from MAHMOUD that..that was his wife's gun. That she stole it from him, he was gonna go sell it to him, Doctor. KHALIFA. But Doctor KHALIFA gave him., gave her some money and he told her that not that I am buyingthis gun...if you need the money...Ah-huh....here is the money, and he took the gun...

Q I see.A ... ( inaud) for

_____________ (inaud).Q Did Doctor KHALIFA have any other guns?A Not that I know of, I doubt it because he was always talking

about God's protection.Q Alright. Do you own a gun?A No I don't.Q Alright. Was he worried recently that someone was going to

take his..or try to take his life?A Uh..you wouldn't believe this. This guy..you never ever

have seen the worry. He was always in a good mood. Like., you know..they shot..he just got shot by some energy..you know..and, uh, but..okay..it's really hard for me to explain it. I'm in this process..I 've been in this process for a year. Uh, I know, uh, what I'm talking about but, to you..I..I guess might..might be crazy. GABRIELLE(ph) and(ph) JOE(ph) was here two days ago, four o'clock in the morning.He quoted some verses from Koran, that he is the messenger of the highest, highest messengers, among those highest messengers. And..uh, he recalled that in a Koranic class in the morning, six o'clock. And then yesterday morning, I went asking, I'm very excited, tell me what else GABRIELLE told you, and he didn't talk about that. We got into another

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A discussion. But, somehow within the year, day(ph) and(ph)half(ph) ago..he was kind of different...you know. He didn't want to talk much to everybody, open up a subject. But, uh, he would just keep telling me yesterday, that don't worry BEHUTH(ph), we gonna(ph) be the king in this world, and you're gonna be very successful...because I have a lot of trouble in my life..not personally, but as far as jobs and things concerned. And, uh, like he give me lot of fate(ph), but he would not talk about what exactly, so we think probably that he'd been notified that he would(ph)...you're gonna be gone...probably, I don't know. God knows best. Hm..and he was kind of different. You know, he was on the ball, joking and everything, but he didn't want to sit down and talk about a subject. You know, he was not in the mood for that.

Q There is..there is no one person that you could put...A No, no.Q ...your finger on as to who...A No.Q ...would want to take his life?A No, not at all. All I can put..point a t ... everybody that..

that don't believe his message. They could be the victim(ph).Q Alright. Sir, is there anything else right now about, uh,

Doctor KHALIFA'S death that you think it's important for meto know, that I haven't asked you?

A (inaud)..Q Something material in the case?A Uh, no. I really..you know...Q Let me ask you this. Do you think that, uh...I..I understand

that LINDA, MAHMOUD'S wife...A Uh(ph)...Q ...was upset with Doctor KHALIFA.A No, I that's not...Q Is she capable of murder?A I..I..I only saw her once at the car when policemen came by.

U h ...I ..I don't know if she's capable of doing what(ph) in this, I don't know, but my feeling is..she could not be the one...you know. It..you have to have hate so much. She had to had ha..hate his hus..her husband.

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A Not the Doctor KHALIF... KHALIFA didn't do anything to her.Q Okay.A You know...But there are billions(ph) of people...Q Did he take sides with her husband?A Pardon me?Q Did he take sides with her husband?A He did, yes.Q Alright.A All of us did.Q Okay.A Apparently... because she was wrong and she knows that the

police department knows it. But, the only thing is..this message... people didn't like.

Q Ah-huh.A And he's been sending it for ten years to Saudi Arabia, and

they had many, many threats from them. And we don't have a single Arab person as a believer. And... because God quoted in Koran, when I give you this mess..this book, this a scripture, if you do not follow it, I'm gonna give it to the better people. And that better people, the best people in the world right now, is United States. It's...they are the most blessed in the whole world. Anywhere you go from here, you're gonna have terrible disasters. If you go to the supermarkets, you see...a packa...get a package of meat, there is one meat under. You go to my country, you have tostay for one piece(ph) package of meat for si..six hours toget this package. So th..this is a blessed country. This is the most freedom country in the world. And he believed that all the time that this is gonna be the center of Islam, within twenty-two fifty years. And this country gonna besubmitters to the God..God___________ (inaud). And somedisaster is gonna happen to Middle Eastern country, especially Saudi Arabia, that..about the asteroid. Uh, God told himanything, you believe any moment, any second, this __________________(inaud) going on, is believed by God. It's..it's..you know... spared..inspired by God. The work does not go to the computer. I..I..I witness it. That we write this newsletter in the computer and he writes it. I went to ask him something last week..week... ten days ago, and he said, BEHUZ(ph), look at the sentence, it does not want to go into the computer, either it's short or it's too long. God does not want me to write this. And..I know this, but to you or others, might be sound crazy. Nothing will happen in this Mosque(ph) unless God's will is..it's just like we think

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A he's just looking at us right here.Q Ah-huh.A And...then he inspired with the..asteroid. He said in 1990,

it..it gonna hit somewhere. And then the night before channel six was showing the asteroid. I don't know if you seen it or not, then that..the day after the newspaper had the asteroid information right in the front page, and he put some of the pictures in our newsletter. He faxed it to all over the world. And the...this is the center of the world. He was all the same telling us, and we knew it. This is the center of..new center of the world. It's gonna be shown to everybody within the near future. God's will. Because we..I believe in(ph) him(ph), because I have seen..you know it's..it's very difficult for me to..

Q Ah-huh.A ..explain it, but...and then, uh, the same day, he opened the

Koran himself, God told him four months, not even to the end of the 1990. So like..about three and half months for the asteroid to hit us. And constantly we hear all these__________ (inaud)..at..and then the same night that he wasgonna say it in the morning, I had a dream that I was going to a shopping center and there was a new movie, and theproducer was putting the pictures on the wall. And thepicture says "it" like E.T...

Q Ah-huh.A ..it was like a crumbling fa..uh, shape. It says "it",

"It", it was the name of the movie, all over the picture was "it". And then, uh, he said, "Do you have a market?" I said, "Yes." I gave him the market, I was passing by, I said, "Wow", this is the producer. Uh, then I went back, I grabbed him,I said, "Do you...are you a producer?" He said, "Yes." I..Itold him I have a beautiful story of creation. It's coming from God, it's proven by God, we know the creation. The story of creation. And he a start telling me and there was a couple of..Arab guys, they came by to take out these pictures, and..he, uh, start talking to them, I said, "Don't worry about these guys, they gonna hit by asteroid pretty soon." The same day. So when I told him that confirmed his...when the news said something in newspaper. When, uh... everybody..see, when., when he thinks about something, when something comes, every­thing around us is(ph) proves it. And he said, "I was gonna call it something, "it" like coke it is...coke is it..."

Q Ah-huh.A ...he said, coke is it. This is what I'm..I was gonna call

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Q I see.A _________________________ (inaud).Q Is there..is there anything else?A That's(ph) a million of things but...Q Sure.A ...as far as the case concerned, no.Q I know.A I think there..there is a billions of in this world that

they're against his message, but the messenger died, but the message is gonna be alive__________________________(inaud).

Q What would..what would the Arab world gain by his death?A They gonna stop, uh, spreading around the message.Q Ah-huh.A And this message, it says, don't forget about Mohammed. Do

not idolize Mohammed. You just have to strictly go by Koran. But...Arabs, they have two different books that happen(ph) go to the Koran. He says leave those books alone. And they said, "We cannot leave those books alone." And in Arab countries, they are a still in that Arab country. Saudi Arabia that they kill the orphans when they just born... because they are girls, and they put them in trash cans, there was a guy coming over here..h e ..he..told them, I have a tape that he recalled in one of the sessions.

Q Are they...A And(ph) they(ph) are(ph)..Q ..are they that much afraid of what comes out of this

country...by word? Fear of word?A Arabs?Q Ah-huh.A Yes. Yes, yes. Yes, because the truth is gonna come out

of this country.Q And so they don't...A It's ... truth..truth of God.Q Ah-huh.A It's gonna come out, and they don't like it.Q So that's what bothers them?A Exactly. Exactly. And they all know about this miracle of

nineteenth. And this is a miracle that..it's the biggest miracle of all..like the...Moses and Jesus had those miracle,

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the serpent and the...Ah-huh....breath of healing people. But his is gonna be witnessed for t..the end of the world. But Jesus, only like ten, twenty, hundred people on the street, they saw him..uh, it was a dead guy he...blow on him, he got up. But this is gonna be witnessed on the computer disk all over the world. And there is a verse in Koran, that God says in the future, um, you...it's gonna be a creature from the earthly creature which is the computer, it's gonna prove to you this secret. And he found out about this secret about fifteen years ago. But it took him four years to realize it. And everyday there is a new miracle...I mean not a new miracle, uh...Something that prove......new information about this nineteenth. Every day there is a gentleman comes...two, three times a week, he'd check his pocket, he..he was the miracle that exactly coded the mir..the mathematical code of the Koran...like the...it's a literally in his mathematical title(ph) to get...if you pull one a string like from your shirt, they gonna find out, one is missing. .Ah-huh....and that's why we found out there were two verses in Koran was Satanic...was not in the Koran. And exactly that was the time when Satanic verses popped up. That was the time he was taking two..these two verses out of the Koran. And now the..the Arab countries, they don't like it. The Moselum, so-called Moselum, they don't like this. They said you touched the...oh, it's God..God..you know..Ah-huh....scripture. But he is God's messenger. And it came to., uh, Torah and Bible and Koran. If God says there's amessenger of _______________ ( inaua) . .we (p h ) come (p h )... purifyall the religion. And it's one message only, believe in God, that's it.Sir, has everything you've told me today on the tape been the truth?Yes sir.Okay. And would you state your n a m ^ a g ^ ^ ^ f o ^ m ^ p l e a s e ?My name is BEHRUZ MOFIDI SHIRAZI,Alright. That'll conclude the statement for right now. The time is approximately 1105.

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