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EDITED BY OYRUS E. BROOKS.

"The Wages of Sin is Death; but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Ohrist our Lord."

No. 6. vet, IV. PRICE ONE PENNY:MARCH, 1881.

TABLE OF CONTENTS.

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Christian and Jew

" This one thing I do " ...

To those whom it may concern

The Coming King (Part 1.) •..

~embers' Berean Class

Correspondence

" What of the Night? "

Correspondence Extracts

Notes, News, and Reviews ...

Question and Answer

Church and Mission News

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CHRISTIAN AND JEW.

By J. J. ROBBS.

[Unavoidably Delayed.]

CHRISTL~N-' Good morning, friend Amos, may I venture, without

giving offence, to 'wish you tbe compliments of the season? I only wish

you were able, with the rest of us, to enter into this joyful Christmas

celebration. "

AMOS-" Thank you very mnch, dear sir, for your kind wishes, but

you must know this Christmas season possesses but little charm for the

Sons of Jaeob."

CHRISTIAN-" I know it, my friend, and it grieves me to the heart,

that God's chosen people should still remain unblessed by the advent of

their King? ,.

AMOS-" Stay, dear sir, your words are gall and bitterness to my soul.

King, indeed! as applied to the Prophet of Nazareth. Don't insult my

understanding with such profane irony I beg you."

CHRISTIAN-" Ah, this is sad, to hear you speak thus of Him whom

we all delight to worship. But come now, friend Amos, take a seat, I

pray you, and for a few minutes this morning let us interview each

other as to our respective beliefs. Who knows but that we may provehelpers of each other's faith? "

AMOS-" Thank you, deal' sir, for your courtesy, but anything like

controversy I must respectfully decline. Experience has taught me

how profitless it is. The adage still holds good-

• Convince a man against his will.

He's of the same opinion stdll.' "

CHRIS~'lAN-" I do not desire to enter into any controversy, nor will I

detain you longer than you please; but just allow me to ask you can-

didly, to say-Why you, as a Jew, cannot accept the Christ of history

as your King? "

AMOS-" Then I will reply by expressing my profound surpr

sensible and intelligent people as many of you Christian pe

questionably are, students too of the sacred Scriptures, should

attach the least importance to the claims made by the amia

fanatical prophet of Galilee to the Messiahship of Israel."

CHRISTIAN-" Well you certainly are complimentary to our

gence; but proceed."

AlIIOS-" These two things then are an enigma to us Jew

acquaintance with the character, life, and death of Him you rethe Messiah, and at the same time, your knowledge of w

prophets taught concerning the Shiloh that was to come."

CHRISTIAN-" Explain yourself, my friend."

Al\IOS-" I mean just this, that although the prophets deli

the most glowing terms, the majesty of the coming King,

greatness and glory of His Kingdom, you point to the Nazare

was notoriously an outcast amongst men, and crucified in abje

lessness, as fulfilling all that the prophets have written con

Him! Yes, I know how you Christians endeavour to get o

difficulty. The throne of David is in heaven! Messiah reigns,

secret only, in the hearts of His believing people I Absurd! I

that the true Messiah will reign in the hearts of His people.

also rule those who disobey Him; but it will be with a rod

That is to be the nature of His government. You Christians say a

yourselves the Messiah's Kingdom is not to be of this world! T

Kingdom is not meat nor drink, but righteousness, peace, joy,

on. Right, so far as you allow these to be the moral pr

characterizing His Kingdom; but if you think His rule means

more than this, you surely have listened to the voices of the p

to little purpose. Depend upon it, wben the Messiah sets

Kingdom, the world will know it. The Kingdom may be heavenl

its character and source. The King will not owe His regal autho

any earthly line of kings any more than He will to the suffrages

people. No, the Almighty Father Himself will set Him on th

hill, and His own hand will place the diadem on the head of David

Our Daniel the prophet tells us-' The Kingdom and the dominio

the greatness of the Kingdom under the whole heaven (not a

shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High God

and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.' This is what

read and believe, and for this we still are looking and e

longing."

CHRISTIAN-" Thanks, my Israelitish friend, for this noble con

and exposition of your views. But you will be surprised to he

with very much you say I cordially agree. More than this, I

joiced to say, I now see the rock on which you suffer shipwreck.

are quite right in holding fast to the bright visions of the ancient

and in accepting all they foretell of the grandeur of the Kingly

Right in your rejection of the so-called spiritualizing of these thi

Christian Rabbis, by whose system of interpretation the Bible h

beclouded, and both Messiah and His chosen ones have

grievous wrong. I too say of this sky Kingdom, as being the ful

of all that the prophets have written-' Absurd! '"

AMOS-" Yet you say you see the rock on which we suffer shipw

CHBISTIAN-" Patience, dear friend. In speaking of this rock

me, without needless offence, to apply your own words to yoursel

slight variation-c-' I am surprised that sensible people, such as m

you Jews unquestionably are, students too of the sacred Scri

should strangely overlook so much that your own prophets

written!' Have you never read the 53rd chapter of Isaiah; se

the Psalms of David, wherein the Messia.h is evidently set for

8ujfering and dying one 1 The very same prophets that wrote

King and His Kingdom, wrote also of the pierced hands and fee



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slaughtered Victim! 0 Jew, the vail must surely be covering your

eyes, or you could not fail to see this in your Scriptures-first the

bleeding Victim; then the ruling Monarch! "

AMos-" What! two advents do you mean? You stagger me, my

friend."

CHRISTTAN-"Yes, this is truly what I mean. The Messiah is evi-

dently set before us thus. Before appearing in His character as King,

He must take the place of the subject. The subjects of the Kingdom

must be prepared for entrance into it. Sin must be atoned for and put

away. He also must qualify Himself as the Captain of their salvation

by a baptism of suffering. As with the subject so with the King; no

cross, no crown! Believe this, dear Amos. Give a glad welcome to the

sin-bearing Victim, and hereafter it will be yonr joy and mine to see

this same Jesus right royally filling the Throne of His Father David ,

reigning over His ancients glorionsly, and your beloved Jerusalem made

a city of joy in all the earth. Receiving Him thus you will then know-

A Happy Christmas and a bright New Year."

A~fOS-" The vail is falling! Light breaks in upon my soul!

Heaven's richest blessings be upon your head! This morning's talk is

an epoch in my life. Excuse my seeming haste, I must away to my

closet, and to the prophets. Good morning."

CHRISTIAN-" Good morning. God bless you! "

Blandford, Christmas, 1880.

"THIS ONE THING I DO."

By NATHANIEL STARKEY.

" Brethren, I count not myself to luuie apprehended; but this one thing

I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching [ortli unto

those things which are before, Ipress toward the mark for the prize of the

high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be per-

fect, be thus mindcd.-Phil. iii. 13-15.

" GOODMASTER,what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life ? " was

the enquiry of the young ruler. Blessed with every temporal good, he

was nevertheless the subject of conviction that death would soon end it,

and with somewhat of faith in a future life which would be eternal, and

that its possession depended upon a present doing, he came to this

" Teacher come from God," with this enquiry, expressive of a yearning

for something more than he at present possessed.

Nor can we wonder, seeing how conscious all must be that the body

soon will die, that the yearning of the spirit within us should be for

eternal life. Another world, a future state, whereof this is but the

preface, is the inborn conviction of the conscience of man, however rude

the race.

The answer of our blessed Lord to the young ruler confirmed tbe im-

portance of tbe enquiry when He said, "If tbou wilt enter into life,

keep the commandments."-Matt. xix. 17.

But in our text we find before the faith of the Apostle something more

than eternal life ; a high calling, a holy calling, a heavenly calling and

its prize, "the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus," Christ

a life within us here, and a crown of life upon us hereafter, an over-

comer's crown.

The Apostle, whose words we quote, has made us familiar with the

figure of a racer and a race-course, and says in one place, " Let us run

with patience-perseverance-the race set before us," and in another

place, " So run that ye may obtain." And the worthy Apostle that he

was, he first sets us tbe example by running himself, and then gives us

his mind about it. So then we shall consider from these words :-

Lst, A prize seen, and a mark to be reached in order to gain it. "Up to

the mark" is a common phrase used to express perfect health, conscious

power, competence. If we would be up to the mark at the end of the

race, we must be up to the mark from day to day, not knowing how

soon our race may end. The mark is not the prize, but so associated

with it, that it is reached forth after as if it were the prize itself. The

mark is, to be" approved unto God," (2 'I'im, ii. 15), "approved in

Christ," (Rom. xvi. 10), or, as He was said to be, ••a man approved o

God," (Acts ii. 22.) What then is the prize? An overcomer's crown

and title to an overcomer's portion, described at the close of each

message to each of the seven churches in Asia, "To him that over

cometh will I grant," &c, an individual prize for an ind'ividualover-

coming. A crown bestowed" in that day" upon those who are changed

at His coming or raised from among the dead in the first resurrection.

And hence the words of the Apostle, "If by any means I might attain

unto the resurrection from the dead," verse 11 (see Alford). And again

when the time of his departure is at hand, he says, " Henceforth there

is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord the Righteous

Judge shall give me at that day, and not to me only, but unto all them

also that love His appearing." 2 Tim. iv. 8. So then Paul is notyet

crowned, nor can he be while his body is in the grave, and his spiri

asleep in Hades. To which agrees also the words of the Psalmist,

" The upright shall have dominion over them in the morning." Ps

xlix. 14. And express dominion will be theirs who triumph over death

a thousand years before the rest of the dead (see Rev. xx. 5). To attain

this "better resurrection" the martyrs aspired, and this Apostle i

earnest for the same, wherein he says, "If by any means I migh

attain," for be it observed that this 11th verse should be read" the re

surrection from the dead," meaning "out of" or "from among th

dead," an election according to that special grace whereto overcomer

shall attain. For upon this resurrection depends not only bein

crowned as overcomers, but living and reigning with Christ a thousand

years while others sleep on. We must rise ere we can be crowned. W

must be crowned ere we can sit with Christ on His throne. (Rev. ii

21.) We must sit with Him in His throne if we are to reign with Him

on the earth. (Rev. v. 10.) For this is to be the portion of ove1·comers.

Now then it may be asked, What is meant by overcoming? Ove

coming what? That which threatens to overcome us. Overcomin

when? Here and now from day to day, never knowing which day ma

be our last. And," He that overcometh and keepeth My works unt

the end, to him will I give power over the nations."

What then is that which threatens to overcome us? The selfhood

the will. The stronghold within us which is the last to yield to th

reign of grace. Self-will in the temper of perverseness. The rather

doing not our own will, but His to whom we belong. Seeking not o

own interest, but His who gave Himself for us. And if put to sham

for His sake, ••Being reviled we bless, being persecuted we suffer'

being defamed we entreat."

The selfhood in its ambition too. If we would be His disciples, w

must follow His example, who "though on an equality with Go

deemed it not a thing to be grasped," when His Father's will required

should be let go, but "made Himself of no reputation, took upo

Himself the form of a servant," making Himself last of all and servan

of all, saying, " I have given you an example that ye should do as

have done to you; ye also ought to wash one another's feet."The self hood in its lusts moreover. The lust of the flesh, the lust

tbe eye, and the pride of life. "Put off the old man with his deed

Abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul. Ye also put

all these. And be not conformed to this world." The word that

read" I keep under my body," would he read in the Greek, "I brui

my body." Yet not the corporeal body, that, with Monks and Nu

we should lacerate the flesh; but the life in the self hood as thu

described in its will, its ambition, and its lusts. Especially the lust

covetousness which clings to the poor with their pence not less than t



84 THE BIBLE STANDARD.

rich with their pounds, covetousness which the Scripture calls idolatry.

2nd. "Not as though I had already attained;" so then after 30 years'

running, and running well, the Apostle counted not himself to have

insured the prize. And herein is seen the difference between the

Apostle's reckoning and the reckoning of some. With him it was a

great thing, the chief thing. With some it seems a small thing, a

secondary thing, to run well this race. A leap from the wreck into the

lifeboat will bring safe to land, but a race begun is not a race well run

or a prize gained. The Apostle was not content with a bare salvation,

he would have the prize of a successful runner, and those alone run

well who run to the end. This same Apostle had to complain to the

Galatians, "Ye did run well. Who did hinder you?" Many seem

willing for a season, Christians for a season, runners for a season,

"Hear the word, and anon with joy receive it." Promise well in bud

and bloom for fruit, but bring forth no fruit unto perfection; some indeed

turn aside altogether, and walk no more with us; others-like Ready-

to-halt-go limping along lamely all the journey through; while others

at the end of the race are able to say, "I have fought a good fight, I

have finished my course, I have kept the faith. Hepceforth a crown!"

Let U8 then hold fast our confidence in Him in whom we have believed

nnto salvation; but let us also hold fast qrace in that degree which

shall secure to us a daily overcoming!

3rd .•• Tbis one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind,

and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press."

In order to gain one end, the Apostle minds one thing; and the

secret of all success, be it in earthly or heavenly ambition, is concen-

tration of purpose. The successful man is he who frames his course

upon the principle contained in these words, "This one thing I do."

And things behind must not only be left bebind, but be forgotten. Tbe

racer, for the time that he runs, must forget home claims, pleasures,

and pastimes; his mind not less than his person must be in the race.

But pressure suggests opposition. Most racers have a clear racecourse

provided for them, while the Christian racecourse is crowded with

contending and opposing elements. The W01'Zd without, the flesh

within, and the devil everywhere, are allied forces to prevent our

running successfully. We must not only lay aside every weigbt, but

we must take unto us the whole armour of God, the shield of faith and

the sword of the Spirit, that so, clad right and left, we may be proof

against our spiritual foe. By force or by fraud he seeks to counteract

successful running. At one time a roaring lion, at another an angel

of light, but his one aim is hindrance of our success in running. " Let

thine eyes look right on, let thine eyelids look straight before thee,"

sonnds like an admonition expressly for racers. While reaching forth

there must be neither looking back nor lingering. On! On! On! is the

one watchword of the runner.I

4th. And finally, " Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus

minded." Here the Apostle admonishes us to become like-minded with

himself. The benefit of all acquaintance with truth consists in

personal application, " If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do

them." But we notice that the admonition comes to "the perfect."

The word" perfect" here signifies maturity in spiritual life, or, such as

seek it. Truth meets men on the ground it finds them, and deals withthem accordingly. To sinners it comes saying, " Flee from the wrath

to come. Repent and believe the Gospel." To babes in grace it comes

saying, "Desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow

thereby." 'I'oyoung men" grown up in Him" it comes saying, "Covet

earnestly the best gifts. Reach forth unto those things which are

before. So run that ye may attain."

What then is it to " be thus minded? " Minded to run with earnest-

ness. Minded to run with continuance. Minded to obtain the mark

for the prize. Not by fits and starts shall the race be run, or the prize

be won, but by patient continuance in well-doing "to the e

continue in My word, then are ye My disciples indeed." W

be His disciples indeed as we continue His followers to the en

" And that knowing tbe time, that it is now high time to

of sleep," but, "so much the more as we see the day app

What day? The day for awarding prizes, the coronation

never know how soon our running time may be cut short.

life that now is ends our opportunity for gaining the prize.

Bridegroom draws near, the importance of that word" now"

The coming of the Bridegroom will cut short the race of som

will find them as they tben are, ready or unready. The tim

overcomers must end the opportunity of overcoming, and

alone will stand before Him with confidence without shame

will be to be ashamed before Him at His coming is not re

that it will be to suffer loss in some way is most certain.

dead with Him, we shall also live with Him; if we suffer, w

reign with Him; if we deny Him, He also will deny us; if

not, yet He abideth faithful, He cannot deny Himself." It i

own lips we have the words, " Whosoever shall confess Me b

him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven,"

to intensify the force of the words, He adds, "But whosover

Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father w

heaven." And Dean Alford's commentary on 2 Tim. ii. 13,

the solemnity of the passage, " If we desert faith in Him, H

break faith with us. He baving declared whosoever denie

denied by Him, and we have pledged ourselves to confess Him

become unbelieving, and break our pledge; but He will not

As He has said, it shall surely be."

So then, "Little children, abide in Him, that when He sh

we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Hi

coming." (1 John ii. 28.)

Hackney, Jan. 1,1881.

TO THOSE WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.

[ We subjoin, for the benefit of OUj' readers, the copy of

iohicli is being posted in val'ious parts of the Gountl·

THE following Extracts from J. N. Darby's "Hopes

Church," Lecture IV., Second Edition, are com

to the notice of Christians generally, and esp

the "Brethren."

" The Word of God speaks of men glorified, of glorified b

never of glorified souls. But, prej ndices and human teach

taken the place of the Word of God, and the expectation of

rection has ceased to be the habitual state of the Church."

"This doctrine of the resurrection was acknowledged as th

publicly preached by the Apostles; it was not, that the soul

went to heaven, but that the dead shall live again."

" Socrates and other philosophers believed in the immortal

soul; but when these men, curious in science, heard of the re

of the dead, they mocked. An unbeliever is able to discou

immortality ; but if he hears about the resurrection of the

turns the subject into derision; and why? because in virtu

immortality of the soul, he may exalt himself, he can elevat

importance. There is something in the idea which can ally

man such as he is; but to think of dust raised again-of a l

glorious being made out of it! this is a glory which belongs on

a work of which God alone is capabJe; for if a body reduced to

be reconstituted by God into a living and glorified man, nothin

from His power; with the immortality of the soul man can stil



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the idea of self-of power in the body; but when the leading truth is

the resurrection of the body, and not the immortality of the soul, man's

impotency becomes glaring."

" The idea of a resurrection of the just was familiar to the disciples

of Christ; and such is represented as to happen in Luke xiv. 14, ' Thou

shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.' "

"But before coming to direct proofs, we would express our convic-

tion, that the idea of the immortality of the soul' has no source in the

gospel; that it comes, on the contrary, from the Platonists, and that it

was just when the coming of Christ was denied in the Church, or at

least began to be lost sight of, that the doctrine of the immortality of

the soul, came in to replace that of the resurrection: This was about

the time of Origen.'

NOTE -At the wish of the Darbyites or Brethren, we beg to state

that in the paragraph following the last one quoted from the" Hopes of

the Church," Mr. DARBY avows his belief in the immortality of the

soul. Reader, mark! An idea which has no source in the Gospel, that

came, on the contrary, from the Platonists, and was not received by the

Church till the time of Origen, A.D., 200, is nevertheless the belief of the

leader of the Brethren.

We would also note, that in the Fourth Edition, printed 14 years after

the one quoted from above, and which is the one now in use, the last

paragraph is altered, and reads as follows :-" Bnt before coming to direct

proofs, we would express our conviction that the idea of the immortality

of the soul, though recognised. there, as Lnike xii. 5, xx. 38, is not in

.general a gospel topic, that it comes, on the contrary, from the Platonists,

and that it was just when the coming of Christ was denied in the

Church, or at least began to be lost sight of, that the doctrine of the

immortality of the soul came in to replace that of the resurrection,

This was about the time of Origen."

Reader, again mark!! First, the blundering partial recantation in

the first sentence-and then, that an idea recognised twice in Luke's

Gospel, comes, on the contrary, from the Platonists, and came in about

the time of Origen.

Surprised reader, do you ask: Are this man and his followers deceit-

fnl or ignorant? We answer, they are neither; they are excellent

Christian people, who did run well, till they yielded to the blinding

influence of ecclesiastical assumption and sectarian intolerance.

R. J. H., Maida Vale, W.

'"As to the expression (2 Tint. i. 10), ., brought life and immortality to light j" immortal-

ity signifies the incorruptibility of the body, and not the immortality of the soul.

Copies of this Paper can be had at the Book Room, Harewood

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A Christian Gentleman, in Liverpool, offers a Reward of £100 to

any person proving, from the Scriptures, the doctrine of the in-

herent Immortality of the Soul; aud a further reward of £100 will

be paid to any person disproving the doctrine that Immortality is

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•THE COMING KING.

A Lecture delivered 'in Mint-lane Chapel, Lincoln, on Jan. 26, 1881.

By REV. H. B. MURRAY.

FROM the teaching we received in our childhood, we had been ac-

customed to think that the only purpose God had in Redemption, was,

that He might (so to speak) pick out a few of His creatures here, and

transplant them to some ethereal region beyond the skies, where they

should enjoy eternal glory and felicity, in His presence for ever. We

thought nothing of the world that we now live in, that, apparently, was

left hy God to go to wreck and ruin anyhow. Its blessing and regenera-

tion found no place in our scheme of theology. But now we believe

differently; we believe that Christ has not only redeemed us as in-

dividuals, but He has redeemed this earth for our future inheritance.

(See Eph. i. 14.) Christ, apparently, snffered an awful defeat in this

world. He came as God's Ambassador to men, and men took Him, and

smote Him, and put Him to death. But do you think that the Divine

Son of God is to be hustled out of the earth in that fashion? No!

The scene of His apparent defeat shall soon be the scene of His

triumphant victory. God made this world fair and beautiful for man,

but Satan in envy has done his best to mar and foul it. But this earth

which has been the scene of Paradise in the past, is to be the scene of

Paradise again. Christ is coming back to cleanse the world, to restore

it to its pristine beauty, and to set up His kingdom of everlasting

righteousness. The kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms

of our Lord and His Christ, and He shall reign for ever and ever. And

it is about this coming and kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ that I

desire to say a few words to you this evening.

In Dan. vii. 27, you get a complete outline of my subject. You read

there, " The kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom,

undeT the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the

Most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all Rulersshall serve and obey Him." Here you get the subject, " The kingdom

and dominion and greatness of the kingdom." Then its locality is

mentioned-it is "under" (not above) "the whole heavens." Then

you get God's purpose concerning it-" It shall be given to the people

of the saints of the Most High." Then you get a description and

promise-" Whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all Rulers

shall serve and obey Him." In this last clause is brought before us-

God's Divine King, the One who is soou to assume supr~me anthorityin the

earth-" All Rulers shall serve Him," this is the language of Ps. lxxii.,

"All kings shall fall down before Him, all nations shall serve Him."

For the appearing of this Divine King creation groans. Men, both in

ancient and modem times, have felt their need of such an one. Even

before the birth of Christ, the heathen world longed and hoped for His

coming. Thus we find Plato expressing the sentiment of his day whenhe said-" It is necessa,'y that a laurqiuer be sent down from heaven to

instruct us ; " and then he says, " Oh how greatly do I desire to see that

Man, and who is He, for He must be more than human." And although

we cannot always follow Plato (especially when he attempts to prove tbe

pagan fiction of the sours immortality), we gladly follow him here, as

his utterance on this subject will bear the light of Scripture. To-day

the same feeling fills the breasts of tens of thousands, and we say with

the old Greek philosopher, "It is necessary that a lawgiver be sent

down from heaven to instruct us; He must be more than human, and

we earnestly long to BeeHim," for, alas, the government of nations by

man has been from the very beginning productive (as a rule) of ruin,

disaster, and distress. The history, of near 6,000 years, has fully

proved to us the utter inability of man to goyern either himself, or the

peoples of the earth, for their permanent happiness and good. What is

it that fills the nations with sedition, revolt, bloodshed, and unhappiness,

but the inability or unwillingness of those in power to know how to deal

with those who are subject to tbem. Look at the effects of human rule

to-day. Consider the condition of Europe! Does not everything seem

to be out of gear, out of harmony? Things seem to be in a universal

mnddle, and all is wrangling, discord, and confusion. Nearly every

country seems to be in difficulties. England is burdened with the

Irish, and the many perplexing home questions. France is tronbled

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Socialism. Russia is tormented with Nihilism. The Rulers of the

Earth are in great perplexity, and often at their wits' end to know what

to do for the best, and there seems gradually coming up around them a

vast swelling flood of lawlessness and discontent, with which they seem

not only una ble to cope, but before which they stand terrified and

appalled. Their feeble attempts to control the masses seems only to

complicate matters, and the world seems sinking into a condition of

misery.and disaster from which nothing but the appearing of our Divine

King win be able to deliver us.

The world's great want is a perfectly righteous and sympatheticgovernment. With a perfect government once established on this

earth, social and commercial distress would be reduced to a mere

minimum. But, mark you, we are not met here to-night, to murmur at

our Rulers. No doubt they do the best they can, and if we were in

their places we should not do any better. They cannot give us that

perfect rule which we desire, simply because they themselves are not

perfect, and you cannot get perfect government from imperfect

creatures. How can a man properly rule millions of God's creatures,

when he has not yet learnt properly to rule himself? No! we say a

man to rule perfectly must be perfect. Human strength and intelligence

of itself, apart from union with God, never has been and never will be

capable of governing tbis world, as it needs governing. A man needs

Divine wisdom, Divine intelligence, Divine energy, to be able to rule

the nations as they need ruling. Indeed, he needs to be a Divine Man.Where shall we find such an one? Thank God there is such a Man

living, "The Man Christ Jesus," and He is coming back from His

Father's throne in glory, to occupy His own throne upon earth, from

thence to govern and rule the world in righteousness, joy, and peace.

We want such an one, one in whom all power shall be headed up, one

possessing perfect wisdom and perfect strength, one who shall be able

to take the reins of government in his own hand, and hold them firmly,

and yet a man in whom there shall be an utter abnegation of self.

One who, being Divine, will be above the need or temptation of using

His despotic power for personal advancement or dynastic ambition. A

man whose heart shall so burn with perfect love towards the human

race, that He shall use His Divine qualities and powers to promote the

happiness and prosperity of every living creature.

You are aware that from the time of the Prophet Daniel, human

government has been exercised principally in four great successive

universal kingdoms,-The Babylonian, the Medio-Persian, the Grecian,

and the Roman. Are you aware of God's estimate of the characters of

the Governments that have exercised power in these four kingdoms?

In Dan. vii. 17, you read-It These great Beasts which are four, are

four kings (or kingdoms) which shall arise out of the earth." 'Great

Beasts,' that is what God calls them. Now" Beasts" in this connection

are types of evil, thus the Antichrist, tbe forerunner of Ohrist,-Satan's

imitation of the Coming King,-is called a Beast (see Rev. xiii.) , and,

dear friends, has not that been the character of these Governments?

Have they not gone about in the earth, like wild beasts, ravaging, de-

vouring, and desolating the kingdoms? instead of nourishing, comfort-

ing, and building up. See Dan. vii. 23, "The fourth Beast shall be

the fourth kingdom upon earth, . and shall devour the whole

earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces." With some rare

exceptions this has been the character of human Government from the

beginning. The Leaders of Nations have often been like bloodthirsty

Tigers, going about shedding the blood of tbeir fellow-creatures. I need

not mention names to you, you know them,-AI'exander, Xerxes,

Antiochus, later down Napoleon I., these afford ample illustration of

how man has used the power committed to his trust,

But see how differently God describes His coming King. In Matt. ii.

6, we read-" Tbou:Bethlehem, art not the least among the Princes of

Juda, for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule My

Israel." If you look in the margin of your Bibles, you will s

that word' rule ' is 'feed,'-' A Governor that shall feed My

Israel." Ah! that is God's idea of a Ruler, a Feeder of the

God chose shepherds for the first kings of Israel, for God's id

king is one who will feed and. guard his people like a shepherd

his sheep. One who shall be as a nursing Father to them, for

the meaning of the word' king '-Father. So it is written of

" Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the gove

shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Won

Oounsellor, the Mighty God, the Father of the future age,' the

of peace, of the increase of His government and peace there shal

end, upon the Throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order

to establish it with judgment, and with justice from henceforth e

ever." (See Isa. ix.)

(Continued in our next.)

* Vulgate. Calvin translates=-" Father of the Age." Louth-" The Fath

everlasting age." Wyeliffe-" Father of the world to come." I think the Vulg

the best sense.

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MEMBERS' BEREAN CLASS.

[Under this heading we devote a portion of our space statedly to the use of Me

the Association,-to whom it will be cnntined,-for the purpose of mutOur own part will simply be that of receiving and selecting corresponde

placing' it ill the most suitable form before our readers. Three things wfromall contributors:-1. Brevity; 2. Simplicity; 3. Charity.-En. O :F ' B.

WE here insert two further replies to Mark ix. 49 :-" For ev

shall be salted with fire, and eve1'y sacrifice shall be salted with

which were crowded out last month.

REPLY BY MR. C. A. BOULTER.

Salt sustains things in condition, therefore it is a symbol of perp

The Israelites were commanded to offer salt with all their o

signifying they were to do what they were doing with firmness o

and not to be soon moved away from the purpose of the of

therefore it means unalterableness. If we read one or two p

and insert the word unalterable, it will demonstrate this.

Num, xviii. 19, " All the heave offerings of the holy things, wh

children of Israel offer unto the Lord, have I given thee, and t

and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for ever: it is a cove

salt (unalterable) for ever before the Lord unto thee and to

with thee." 2 Chron. xiii. 5, " Ought ye not to know that th

God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever,

him and to his sons by a covenant of salt? " (unalterable.) M

49, "Everyone shall be salted (settled) with fire." As· the c

with Aaron was unalterable. As the covenant with David and

was unalterable : so these, cast into Gehenna fire, and" burned

and branch," will be salted with fire, that is, their fate will be

able. It will be fixed, final, and perpetual.

"Everyone." That means the righteous and the wicked

(1 Cor. iii.), speaking of the work accomplished by the labou

God's vineyard, and master-builders, says, " Every man's work

tried by fire." If they put wood, hay, stubble men upon the

tions, there is a day coming that shall burn up the stubble. T

"Ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God,"

suffer loss." They will lose their hope, joy, and crown of r

" For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not

in the presence of our Lord Jesus Ohrist at His coming? Fo

our glory and joy." 1 Thess. ii. 19-20. But if they put

foundation gold, silver, precious stone men, then, when "Go

make up His jewels", His precious stones, they" shall receive a



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" The fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is." "Every

one shall be salted with fire." Their fate will then be unalterable.

The minister who is separated unto tbe Gospel, and wants a "com-

plete cbange" from the work and the Bible during holidays, is not

separated with a separation of salt.

P.S.-If the fires of Gehenna are purifying, I would not cast off the

offending hand, or pluck out the offending eye. I would rather retain

them, and go through the fire. I should reckon I had the advantage by

ultimately entering the kingdom intact, rather than avoiding the fire,

and going in maimed. But it is not so. "It is better for thee to enter

into life maimed." The opposite is death unalterable.

London, Jan. 7.

REPLY BY MR. ALFRED M. KING.

I think our Lord is addressing here, not the outside world, but His

own people, and after condemning those severely who cause His little

ones to offend, He proceeds :-" You who profess My name must cast

aside every impediment, even should the hindrance arise from health,

or wealth, or any cause. Even life itself must, if needs, be sacrificed

for My sake. And I, indeed, shall try My beloved ones in the fiery

trials of affliction, loss and sorrow. And as every sacrifice was salted

with salt, an emblem of its purity, so these trials will be sent by Me to

purify and purge you from the evil of the world."

Romford, Jan. 11th.

Up to the date of going to press, we have received three replies to the

query of Mr. Hammond in our last issue, as follows :-" Solomon, in

Ecclesiastes, knows of no future for man whatever. He mourns over

the thought that man, with all his intelligence, will go, like the beast,

to his eternal home, tbe grave (see Eccles. xii. 5, in Hebrew and Greek) ;

and recommends the same course that Paul does, IF there is no resurrec-

tion. Compare Eccles. ii. 24, with 1 Cor. xv. 32. Thus:' There is

nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that

he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour.'-' Let us eat and

drink; for to-morrow we die.' How is this compatible with the Book of

Psalms, written about the same time, and expressing clearly resurrection-

hope 1"

REPLY OF CRAS. UNDERRILL, ESQ., J.P.

The query suggested by the esteemed Treasurer of the Bible Standard

is founded upon a false assumption. "Solomon in Ecclesiastes knows

of no future for man whatever?" This statement is contrary to fact,

consequently there is no discrepancy between Solomon and Paul, and

nothing incompatible with the Book of Psalms. The raison d'etre of

the Book of Ecclesiastes is, that the present life under its most favorable

conditions is unsatisfactory and vain, unless a future life be predicated.

Our modern philosophers have been asking "Is life worth living?"

Solomon, more than three thousand years ago, in an argument upon the

principle of exhaustion, has reasoned out the question, and has shown

that the explanation of the difficulty can only be found in the fact that

there is a future life, in which both the righteous and the wicked shall

be rewarded according to their deeds. " Let us hear the conclusion of

the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is

the whole duty of man. For God shall b1'ing eve1-Ywork into judgment

with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil."

Eccles. xii. 13-14. This is really the philosophy of the Book; it

exhibits the unsatisfactory character of all earthly states and conditions,

viewed as limited to the present life, and terminable, and that even its

highest and best condition (in this aspect of the question) is profitless

and vain. He shows that of the two-a life of sin and folly, or a life of

goodness and righteousness-the latter is decidedly the better. "Then

I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness."

(ii. 13.) "Yet in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth

knowledge increaseth sorrow." (i. 18.) Given, no future, then" what

profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

(i. 3.) "Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, all is vanity." Having

exhausted all sources of earthly happiness and pursuits, his conclusion

is tbat a life of godliness can alone satisfy the mind of man: "Re-

member nolO thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil day

come not." Eccles. xii. 1. And why should a life of piety be desirable?

For this reason, "That God shall bring every work into judgment;"

obviously, because then the righteous man obtains his reward. Tbe

supposition that such a son as Solomon, and the son of such a father,

should be unacquainted and uninfiuenced by the writings and holy

example of David is altogether untenable, "For I was my father's son,

tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother. He taught me also,

and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: Keep my command-

ments and live." Proverbs iv. 3-i. The life of Solomon, his prayer

for wisdom, his dedication of the temple, his comprehensive and

spiritual prayer on that occasion, his prophetical description of the

incarnation of Christ under the personification of wisdom (Prov. viii.),

and his declaration that while" the wicked is driven away in his wicked-

ness: the righteous hath hope in his death," (Prov. xiv, 32,) all bear

witness that Solomon was not behind his eo-temporaries in the knowledge

of revealed truth. May we not consider the passage in Prov. viii. 35

"Whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of thc Lord,"

parallel with 1 John v. 12: "He tbat hath the Son hath life; and he

that hath not tbe Son of God hath not life" ?

Oxford, Feb. 3rd.

REPL,Y OF MR. J. W. DAVIS.

Endeavouring to answer the query of our respected Treasurer,

would submit that the compatibility of the Book of Ecclesiastes with

the Book of Psalms is to be found in the fact that, the" Preacher's"

view is confined entirely to the human and natural side of life, and that

he perceives it to contain all essential and necessary elements to render

it, with other departments of nature, a circle complete in itself, and

also in harmony with these other circles, as referred to in chap. i. 4-7.

Further, that this circle of humanity rights in one generation the

wrongs of another, and gives for the compensation of each individual

the pleasure of living, thus clearly defining the fact that Resurrection

is no human necessity, but belongs exclusively to the domain o

Revelation.

London, Feb. 12.

REPLY OF MAJOR G. J. VAN SOMEREN.

With reference to the query proposed at bottom of page 77 of you

issue for February, I offer the following reply :-In Ecclesiastes, the

Preacher, surveying the world and its doings, its pursuits, its follies, its

joys, its sorrows, comes to the conclusion that all is vanity" under the

sun," and" under the heaven." Thus limiting his view, and purposely

looking at the world from the world's level only, what other conclusion

could he arrive at? But he makes it clear that all the while he knows

that, though vain man would have it otherwise, there is a God wh

reigns. And, further, he lifts the veil for a moment and shows that h

knew of the hereafter, and that "under the sun" was not the onl

place in God's universe. Read chap. viii. 11-13. Solomon there says

" Surely I know it shall be well with them that fear God, which fea

before Him. But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he

prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not befor

God." As, in other parts of his book, he has spoken of the earthly

prosperity of the wicked, he here refers to the truth that the days o

the wicked are limited because he fears not God. This is similar to the

teaching of Ps. lxxiii., where Asaph finds it impossible to understand

the prosperity of the wicked, while "waters of a full cup were wrun

out" to God', people, till he went into the sanctuary of God. There



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he learnt how the wicked should be brought to desolation. Again,

what is Solomon's conclusion of the whole matter? " Fear God, and

keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. . For

God shall bring every work into judgment with every secret thing,

whether it be good or whether it be evil,"-cbap. xii, 13-14. If there was

no future iu his purview, why sho .ild he thus exhort his hearers? But

he knew, and here he speaks of the judgment in the future when it

" shall be well with them that fear God," but ill for the wicked, whose

days shall not be prolonged.

EaUng, Jan. 31.

From communications received, oral and written, it is evident that

this section of our paper is appreciated by both members and readers

and will prove, we trust, a most useful and helpful medium of com-

munication between the scattered members of tbe Association. It is

our personal desire to make of it an International Bible Class, where

members (resident in the flesh) in India, New Zealand, Australia,

Canada, United States, and the Home Country, may meet monthly (in

the spirit) and hold communion in the Word. We wish to thank our

kind helpers who have contributed to the first two meetings, and desire

their continued assistance. Communications for April issue should be

to hand before the 10th March.

Gyrus E. Brooks, The Link, i1Ialvern, Feb. 14.

•CORRESPONDENCE.

WHY CHRISTIANS DIE.

To THE EDITOR OF THE" BIBLE STANDARD."

Sir,-Allow me, in reply to Mr. Underhill's letter on my paper in

your issue of January, to state that that paper was, almost word for

word, my spoken answer to questions asked me by a simple-minded

enquirer. The questions were not propounded by me as pegs on which

to hang my remarks, but are given in the very words used. The reply,

I trust, contains no error, and I thank Mr. Underhill for amplifying it,

and strengtheniug my opinion.

With reference to General Goodwyn's letter, asking for my" Scriptural

warrant for such a statement as the following: 'The living shall go

through the same process of putting off the Adamie body that their

brethren had gone through before them, the only difference being thatthey do not lie asleep.'" I can only repeat my quotation from 1 Gm'.

xv. 52, "The dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be

changed." I confess I do not see that there is any practical difference

between General Goodwyn and myself in this matter. The space of

time occupied may be, to us, ' immeasurably instantaneous,' neverthe-

less, if a change is effected, a process must be gone through, though it

occupy but' the twinkling of an eye.' 'Corruption cannot inherit in-

corruption,' so, if we are to be' like Him,' a change must be undergone.

Thus the process seems to be clearly required, and there is a valid

reason for it. Mortality being' swallowed up of life,' involves a process,

however instantaneous, and that process results in a change. Nor can I

quite see where General Goodwyn thinks me to be wrong, when he

quotes John xi. 25-26, as deciding the matter. Our Lord is 'The

Resurrection' of all the dead, and' The Life' eternal, not only of those

who will be changed, but of all His people. But those who are alive

and remain at His coming shall be changed, and then the unending, the

Eternal, Life, now 'hid with Christ in God,' shall be manifested in

their glorious bodies.

General Goodwyn's letter called for a reply or I would not have

_occupied your limited space. Suffer me, however, now, to suggest

something practical. Mr. UnderhilI states an important truth, one apt

to be overlooked, when he says, "had Christ not died and risen again,

no man would ever have risen from the dead, or lived again." If we

have been enlightened by the Spirit's teaching regarding Life in

alone; if we have been entrusted with this great responsibility;

see clearly what terrible issues are involved in the rejection of th

by perishing sinners; what a burden is laid upon us, of all m

preach Jesus, to hold forth the Word of Life. To edify the Churc

grand calling; to settle and correct minutiss of difference is neces

but here, and in this age, we are to be witnesses to His resurre

who has given us life. That life and its fruits may be evidenced

lives first, by our written and spoken words next, just as powerf

by James, Cephas, Paul, or any of the 50) brethren who saw th

alive after His resurrection. The" hour is coming, in the which a

are in the graves shall hear His voice, And shall come forth; the

have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have

evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John v. 28-29.

death, the judgment." Awful and inevitable is the doom of th

whom the Gospel is but" a savour of death unto death." If the

has, in His mercy, shewn us great thiugs, it is our urgent, our ab

duty, knowing the terrors of the Lord, to persuade, entreat, warn,

pel perishing sinners to come to Him. May He so incite us t

work, and so help us, that many may find Him to be not only

Resurrection," but also "the Life." Then will our Associatio

justified by its works, if it results in men not only "searching

Scriptures which testify of Him," but also in their "coming to

that they may have life."-Y\lurs faithfully, G. J. van Someren.Ealing, Feb. 1st.

"WHAT OF THE NIGHT?"By" WA'l'CHMAN."

r:3" COURTEOUSEADER, suffer one word of introduction ere we p

with our appointed, though willing, task. We have undertaken,

the above heading, to furnish the 3,000 readers of the Bible Sta

with a series of remarks, touching those signs in the natural, soci

political world, which bear upon the question of the Second A

We hasten to disclaim all political bias, our purpose being to wri

student of God's Word, as it is being illustrated in the events of h

life; to cry, "The Lord is at hand," for your warning, encourage

and joy. Should any of you wish at any time to communicate w

kindly address, " 'Watchman,' care of the Editor."~ 'I'he "Eastel'n Question" still takes precedence of all

topics, in its intense and embarassiug importance, and must contin

until He comes who alone can settle it. Greece, after straining

nerve in preparation, stands ready to receive the further instalme

her ancient heritage; whilst Turkey-who never yields to justi

generosity, but only force or gain (when will Europe thoroughly

and practice this lesson?) -procrastinates and pal avers, like one

loth to give, yet fears to refuse.

S" There is some talk of a Greek Expedition to Syria, to pro

Midhat Pacha' as Sultan, but this is scarcely probable, for Greec

need, in Epirus and Thessaly, every man she can put into the fiel

would be greatly to the advantage of 'I'urkoy if so capable a m

Midliat Pasha could be placed on the Imperial throne; and we c

think Europe has not heard the last of his name, or yet felt the

of his influence. Even he, however, cannot regenerate Turkey,

that Islam is doomed.

~ In the recently-published writings of Lord Stratford de Re

occur these striking words (their subject being Turkey) :-" W

most re~arkable in the present situation is the extreme obscurity

future. We cannot foretell what is to take place. It may be th

this will pass away, and affairs continue to move as before. Or

be that 'the wolf has come at last,' that we are approaching that

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CORRESPONDENCE EXTRACTS.he dissolution of the Turkish Empire." He would be a bold man who

would deny the fitness of these words to the present day. Indeed, they

do but give a voice to what is in the minds of European statesmen, and

also in the minds of Bible students; only, the latter, having the" more

sure word of prophecy" to guide them, are able to think with confidence

"we are approaching that great event-the dissolution of the Turkish

Empire." Had we the power to stay that event we would not. Above

all things we desire our Master's presence. That cannot be, whilst Islam

bars the way against the return of His people to the land to which for18 centuries they have been strangers.

0There are not wanting signs of the long-expected" Latin Union."

The sudden cbange of Ministry in Spain-Sagasta for Canovas-is

likely to bring Spain and France into closer alliance, instead of that

German friendship which Canovas was credited with cultivating. True,

'Austria and Germany are, just now, very dear friends, and may be for a

while longer, but cannot permanently remain so, their interests being too

diverse. Russia (Gog) is Germany's (Magog's) true ally; Austria, belong-

ing to the Latin Union, should seek alliance with Italy and France.

~ As regards Greece, she is credited with most ambitious schemes

by the French journals,-to nothing short of the "heirsbip to the

Byzantine Empire," though Russia, "as head of the Greek Church," is

also a claimant. It is thought that J anina would place the key of

Salonica in the hands of Greece, which Austria covets, and, on the

principle that" He shall get who has the power, and he shall keep who

can," purposes to obtain. Doubtless, ancient" Thessalonica" is a prize

worth striving for, and in any other hands, than those of the non-

commercial Turk, might rival its former greatness in Apostolic times.

But, as the port of Macedonia, it belongs of right to Greece, as part of

her ancient inheritance, held by her before Alexander's famous march

upon Asia, which made Greece Asian as well as European. Probably

this explains the reluctance of certain Powers to give Greece all that the

" Berlin Conference" awarded her. All that, and more, must however

be hers, if we err not in our interpretation of the sacred Word. Greece

must have her own again. That is more than the" Berlin Conference"

awarded, for it includes Macedonia. It is idle, therefore, to dream of

peace, as some do, upon the basis offered by Turkey. One of two

things will shortly be,-either the collapse of Turkey in Europe, with

the lion's share falling to Greece, or a short, sharp war, in which Greece

will be the victor.

0That the peace of the Continent is but precarious is evident from

the jealous way in which France and Germany regard each' other. A

German writer, in the lYIilita1"!J Gazette, thus gives expression to the

military view :-" A terrible struggle, a struggle for national existence,

for bare life, a struggle which will demand the maximum tension of

every nerve and muscle, and for a long while, is before U8. In this

struggle we are not to count on rapid success, as in 1866 and 1870, but

rather on checks, and perhaps severe reverses. It will be a war the

success ofwhich will greatly depend on moral forces and energetic will.

Let us hope that in the overclouded days which it will bring about we

shall not vainly appeal to the heroism of the army." Weighty words

these! Wiser far, however, than the cuckoo cry of "Peace, peace."

There can be 110 peace until the advent of the" Prince of Peace."

~ Whether true or false, there can be little question the belief in

our "Israelitish Origin" is spreading. The latest contribution to its

literature being an Italian work, bearing the title" Britannia Israel."

~ The Jew-baiting system continues in Germany in undiminished

force, and has also spread to Austria. It is likely to prove a serious evil

in the latter kingdom, seeing that, probably, it contains a fourth of the

Jewish race. God is thus thrusting His people back to their own land.

"Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus."

Koemos, Feb. 15th, 1881.

[As we receive in our Genera.l Correspondence muoh informa.tion that ( thoughtended for publication) would be useful a.nd appreciated by many of our readpurpose making a.judicious selection monthly, under this heading.-Editor]

Aucklamd, New Zealand, Dec. 6, 188

" I am glad to be able to give you a good report. The blessi

our Heavenly Father is still manifest in our midst. Since I last

you we have formed a Church, called • t he Church of Christ.' I

exactly know how many members we have, but I think between

70. We have baptized nearly 50 since we commenced our labours

and there are. more waiting to be immersed. Vve have also sta

Sunday School, and our Thursday-night Bible Class is still

attended. Our Sunday congregation still keeps up, it cannot inc

for we have not more room, and until we can get a larger place w

have to stand at our present numbers. Opposition is strong, an

enemies say all manner of evil against us. We are now talking

building a place of worship in Auckland. It seems almost impe

that we should do so. We have already got some subscriptions.

Neio Zealand Bible Standard,' will come out about the 12th o

month. I am having 2,000 copies printed. I think most of the

be sold. I have commenced Lectures on the week-nights in place

side Auckland. Last week I was at the Thames Gold Fields, and

that the people are very anxious to hear on these most imp

themes. I shall have to go again, perhaps next week. It is ab

miles from Auckland by boat. We need help. Oh! that God

mise up men f01· the 100rk. The harvest is ripe. The old Maced

cry comes from our hearts, • Come over and help us.' "-Ge01·

Broum, CorTesponding Membel·.

--- Jan. 10, 188

"It may interest you to know I preached on Snnday afte

in the parish church here, from your motto-text, 1 John v. 11-12,

only in Christ,' to a considerable and very attentive congregat

-A.S.

Stephens City, Virginia, U.S., Jan. 15, 188

"The papers found in the Rainbow and Bible Standard ar

of interest to me. Several of them I have found new as well as st

-even to me, who am now comparatively old in the faith, having

an opponent of illtmol·tal soulisllt since 1838, and an advocate an

open disputant in behalf of •Life only in Christ,' since 1840."-A.B.lJ

Salfm·d, Jan. 15, 1881

••In Bible Standard. for January, under • Correspondence

tracts,' you have a note from Mam ches ter signed J.G. Would yo

kind enough to tell him he would find four' congenial souls,' who

together for the study of the Bible on the great truths for which the

battling. Perhaps he would join our little band."-l'.M.P.

• S'I11Tey, Jan. 17, 1881

••I shall be grateful to you if you can tell me of any membe

all near here, or of any anywhere who have been among the' Plsjm

Brethren;' I have been all my life connected with them, and for

have felt that many of them, if they had the courage of their co

tions, would avow themselves destructionists. If they could be g

understand the Greek, and have the Lord's answer to thedying

the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, Phil. i. 21, and 2 Cor.

put in their true light clearly before them, scores would come

believe, because they are such devoted believers, as well as ea

students of Scripture."-W.A.

Ramsqate, Jan. 20, 1881

•• Have recently been brought to see •Life in Christ.' I h

copy of the Conference No. of the Bible Standard. given me, and

so pleased with it I have since taken it in, and find it a great help

profitable study."-G.A.H ..



90 THE BIBLE

QUESTION AND ANSWER.irkenhead, Jan. 27, 188!.

"I am tolerably well posted up in these truths, as I have be-

lieved in them upwards of 30 years, and now I have lived to see so

mnch said and written upon them lately that I have cause to re-

joice."-C.O.

London, Jan. -, 188l.

"Bible Stamdard. just arrived. All the answers re salting the

sacrifice-are good, and how pleasant the news from Bro. Brown, of

New Zealand 1 I had a talk with (Rev.) Edward White last Sunday

evening, who told me of a marvellous movement in South France-

relative to his work among the Protestant clergy. They really seem coming

over en masse, and are sturdily opposed to Universalism. This, there

can be little doubt, is mainly due to the efforts of Petavel."-J. W.

•

NOTES, NEWS, AND REVIEWS.

~ The Revised New Testament promises to be a decided gain to the

teaching of " Conditional Immortality." This is the more grateful to

us, that no one, pleged to the teaching, was on the Revision Com-

mittee. It is therefore purely a scholarly result. We abstain from

using the insight into these changes, supplied us by the press, as com-

ment thereon has been prohibited by the holders of copyright. To

some extent the Word of God is bound.

S" A decided gain to humanitarianism has been secured in Egypt.

" The Khedive of Egypt has prohibited the annual ceremony of the

Doseh, to the great satisfaction of the humane and doubtless to thegreat disappointment of the Faithful, as well as' of tourists and sight-

seers. The ceremony consists in the Sheikh of the Saeedeeyeh order

of Dervishes riding on horseback over the backs of a number of his

followers, who lie down packed like a layer of herrings in a box, and

form a compact road for him to travel over."

~ America is suffering from cold of the most intense description-

veritable Arctic weather. Even the" Sunny South" has 22 degrees of

frost, the ice being two inches thick on the borders of Mexico. Off

Sandy Hook the sea itself is frozen, whilst river navigation is closed.

r:s: In our previous issue we referred to Col. Robt. IngersoJl, of

Amencfl, and hIS challenge to discuss the Bible and its claims to

auth?r.it~" as h!!,ving been a.ccepted by Mr. Allan B. Magruder, of

Virginia, We give the result In Mr. Magruder's own words :-" On the

10th of November my card was published in thc Restitution Ind, In

this I distinctly expressed my willingness and desire to meet Col.

Ingersoll in debate on the credibility of the Bible. I forwarded by mail

the paper containing the original acceptance of his challenge to Col.

Inger~oll's address in Quincy, Ill., marking with a pen the article in

question. A few days later, and for greater certainty of transmission,I enclosed the card cut from the Restitution in a letter in courteous

terms inyiting a reply. Not receiving any response, on the 28th day of

Nov., I inclosed by mail another copy of the card, addressed to Col.

~ngersol~ at Washington, seeing by the newspapers that he was residing

In that CIty. I took the precaution this time to send a registered letter,

and I have before me the post-office evidence of its receipt and delivery

to Col. Ingersoll on the 29th of Nov., 1880. But to this letter and to

its predecessor, up to date, I have received no reply. '

" From these premises I am authorized to conclude that Col. Ingersoll

does not Intend to respond; that he stands mute, being either unwilling

or unable to undertake the modest task of demolishing the Bible. Let

us hope that he has wisely concluded to abandon any further defence ofhis revolting Atheism."

19' ". "The approaching Judgment Day of Nations," &c., (W. Guest,

WarWIck Lane, 6J.). A pamphlet of 16 pages only, containing extracts

from the published writings of Horatius Bonar and others."

.S" " The Coming of Christ" (see advertisement, last page). 'I'his

sIxpenny pamphlet of 45 pages has met with a rapid sale (which iu

itself is a most cheering sign of revived interest in Advent Literature),

and, as the First Edition is rapidly ruuning out, a Second Edition

is being printed, completing 4,01)0. As some of our friends have taken

i~ for granted that, because published by the Association, 'it is respon-

sible for all the sentiments advanced therein, we take this opportunity,

on behalf of the Association, of disclaiming such an idea."

~ We have marked with intense pleasure that" The Approaching

End of the Age," by Grattan Guiness, has passed into a Seventh

Edition, completing Twelve Thousand.

Q" We respectfully urge the attention of Members and Subscribers

to the Note in third column concerning due subscriptions.-Edttor.

Malvern, Feb. 16.

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lThis column is elatedly devoted to replies to such questions, objections, and suggetdons as may be of genera.l interest. We only undertake, however, to reply t~ succommunications ss may commend themselves to our own judgment, aimpacknowledging the receipt of others. 'Ve are persona.llyresponsible for thanswers given.-EDITOR.]

"Eternal Punishment:" Three Lectures by Rev. George Wood

E. U. Church, Airdrie. We are asked by a Scotch subscriber to review

this pamphlet. Our space forbids any but multum in parvo treatment.

The writer sadly shows his ignorance of " Life only in Christ" teaching

In this he is not alone, very few of our opponents, who join issue wit

us, are sufficiently candid or painstaking to learn our real position. I

may be easy to erect and demolish a man of snow, but is it just thus t

misstate another's teaching? With Mr. Wood, we believe that" Th

consequences of a life of sin are unending." That s • in the materia

world annihilation is not known"; tberefore we teach the destruction

being, not the annihilation of matter. We thank him for the admission-

" 'l'he denial of the doctrine of 'Eternal Punishment' (suffering) mus

not be tbought a new thing under the sun." No, verily, for from th

Second Century, when traditional teaching first began to supplan

Pauline Theology, truth has always had her noble army of confessor

against the Monkish Lie of 'Eternal Suffering.' Mr. Wood makes

dangerous admission on page 7, viz., that we must go outside the Sacre

Scriptures for proof of the nature and destiny of man. He says :-" Th

Scriptures (are) not the primary source of information." "The founda

tion must be deeper, the tilling in must be gathered other-where." I

this he concedes the whole point, that the Bible does not teach th

traditional view of man, his nature and destiny. We, on the contrary

deny that Scripture is insufficient; and, that, where nature is voca

the Word is dumb.

Further, he says" Man has a body, but he is a spirit." No Scripture

is quoted in proof of this. We reply by two simple facts :-1. Th

natural man is only regarded as "soulical," never as spiritual (tha

being confined to believers, see Rom, viii. 1-2, 9, 11, 14; 2 Tirn. iv. 222. The spirit of man is not held accountable, or said to suffer, alway

the soul-as a union of body and life. Mr. W. says" the spirit is th

man." The Word says" the soul that sinneth it shall die;" "wha

shall a man give in exchange for his s01l11" (Iife.) We leave him

harmonise his statements with those of the Holy Spirit. Then, o

page 8, he says :-" You are not forced like matter; or blindly guide

I Y !J instinct, like the brute." Here, instinct is deprecated as inferior

reason, yet, on page 9, he glorifies instiuct as a superior guide, thus :

•.For one thing, man expects to exist beyond the grave. This is not th

result of education or the force of circumstances. It is a natura

instinct." Thus, bearing in mind what he had previously said, " Th

Scriptures not the primary source of information," Mr. Wood (when

suits his purpose only) is willing to be guided by instinct, as above ispiration: We write wisely-as above inspiration. For the silenceScripture on natural immortality, is to be in terpreted by the" natura

instmct" of the NATURAL MAN. We decline to follow in such a dangerou

path.

Again he says :-" The moml sense prophecies a beyond." A futur

we reply, does not imply, of necessity, an eternal. future. Resurrection

life is perfectly consistent with a very limited lease thereof, to be follow

by the second death. Revelation alone can speak with altth01'ity as

the duration. of that" beyond." Further," The Christian'S heaven plsupposes a natural. immortalitsj," Quite the contrary, since it is t

heritage, not of all. men, but of some men. It therefore rather pr

supposes a conferred immortality, which is oUl' t-aching, 'Ve can on

note one other point,-what we have already noted is a fair guide to t

whole pamphlet,-" The soul of man is either created perishable

immortal; if perishable, then for the soul to cease to be is in •the natu

of things,' and not punishment." How came this" nature of things

about? By sin or disobedience, by which man forfeited his right to t

"tree of life," and being deprived of its renewing efficacy, perished.

withhold this "tree of life" (of which the righteous will freely partak

is punishment. It is on the basis of loss, not gain, the Word proceed

This loss of immortality, heaven, and bliss, Mr. Wood found it convenie

to ignore. 'Ve repeat, the punishment is in what the sinner loses. Tru

he is perishable, and, apart from Divine mercy, must die; but, Divi

mercy provides and offers a true and imperishable immortality" to tho

who by patient continuance in well-doing seek" for it, and this may

sin be lost for ever. Unex ampled. loss!

•

An old Scotch lady, who had no relish for modern church music, w

expressing her dislike for the singing of an anthem iu her own chur

one day when a neighbour said: " Why, that is a very old anthem

David sang that anthem to Saul." To this the uld lady replied: " We

weell I noo for the first time understan' why Saul threw his jave

at David when the lad sang for him."



THE BIBLE STANDARD. 91

CHRISTHURCH AND MISSION NEWS.

IN MEMORIAM.-Died January 29th, 1881, at Glasgow,

after long suffering from cancer of the brain, GEORGE DEAN

WILSON, Author of "Beulah," &c., &c.

TORQuAY.-Failing in their efforts to obtain a site, the friends here

have rented a house in East-street Torre, which has been altered to form

a convenient Meeting-room for near 80 persons, with dwelling over.

Since the removal, both Church and congregation have increased, and aSunday School has been formed, A Sale of Work was held on January

18th, but, owing to the terrible weather, was but thinly attended.

GRAVESEND.-Very successful services continue to be held here. Major

Van Someren having given several highly-interesting addresses. [We

are asked to state that we will receive the names and addresses of any

who have preaching gifts, and who would be willing to give their services

free in promoting the work here, and that we will forward such letters to

the proper address-e-E». B. S.]

LIvERPooL.-The Rev. Thomas Vasey has received a Cash Testimonial

on the occasion of his leaving for Bacup, to assume the pastorate vacant

by the decease of the late Rev. Jonas Smith.

BRADE'oRD.-The Church here has nobly decided to localise the BibleStarulard; taking 500 copies per month. An earnest effort will be made

to thoroughly distribute these, so that every copy may tell.

LINcoLN.-Increased activity is being shown by the Mint-lane Church

in the propagation of the truth. A series of Lectures have been given, and

1,000 copies of the localised Bible Standard are being circulated monthly.

[At the request of the friends there, we are publishing in our columnsthe Lecture given on January 26th, by the Rev. H. B. Murray, of

Cheltenham, on "The Coming King.v=-En. B. S.]

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