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Game Rules Violation Bazaar of Moxen 8 Judge Conference

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Game Rules Violation

Bazaar of Moxen 8 Judge Conference

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Plan

• What is (not) a GRV?• What is the procedure? (penalty then fix)• Examples

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The documents

Infraction Procedure

Guide

Comprehensive Rules

Tournament Rules

Judging at Regular

3 Documents

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Infractions in Competitive

Infraction Procedure

Guide

Tournament Errors

Game Play Errors

Unsporting Conduct

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What is not a GRV?

Game Play Errors

Looking at Extra Cards

Failure to Maintain Game

State

(Improper Drawing at Start

of Game)DrawingExtra Card MT

Game Rules Violation

My mistakes

Their mistakes

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What is a GRV?

Game Rules Violation

Casting cost

Illegal target

Leftover creature

Forgot to discard

Forgetting to name

I played the wrong card!

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The Penalty

Warning :

For tracking purposesUpgradeable to a GL

Time Extension!

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The Penalty

Warning :

For tracking purposesUpgradeable to a GL

Time Extension!

Game Loss :

If an error can’t be detected by the opponent.

(morph, forgetting to reveal on a conditional tutor…)

If the information needed to verify the legality was ever in a uniquely identifiable position (such as on top of the library or as the only card in hand) after the infraction was committed, do not upgrade the penalty and reveal the information if possible.

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The 3 fixes :

Back-up :

You’re trying to get the gamestate as

close as possible to what it should be.

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The 3 fixes :

Leave it as it is :

You’re not making anything worse.

Back-up :

You’re trying to get the gamestate as

close as possible to what it should be.

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The 3 fixes :

Leave it as it is :

You’re not making anything worse.

Exceptions :

Naming ErrorForget to discard

Wrong move

Back-up :

You’re trying to get the gamestate as

close as possible to what it should be.

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Examples

PR Time:Apps.magicjudges.org <- forumsMtgfrance.com <- local forums

Knowledge pool <- scenario discussionsJudge Study Group

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Examples

The state from the future (knowledge pool edition) ;•A Path to exile a 2/2 Bear. B puts it into their graveyard… later in the turn•B plays Tragic Slip : “Morbid?”•A “What died? Snapcaster should have been exiled.”•B “Snap! Let’s exile it. (textbook partial fix)•A.. “so no morbid? You already played your spell right? Juuuudge?”

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Examples

Demonic Enlightement•End of Adam’s turn, Nolan cast Enlightened Tutor and does not reveal.•Beginning of his turn, Nolan draws and Adam calls a judge. Nolan has now 3 cards in hands.

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Examples

No takesies backsies•Nicol controls a Thalia, Guardian of Thraben•Ajani casts a Gitaxian Probe saying « probe you, pay 2 life ».•Nicol points out his Thalia and it appears that Ajani has several untapped lands. He does not want to use them. Nicol does not want Ajani to « take back » his spell.

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Examples

What did you name?•Niko controls an Adapative Automaton naming Sliver. Adam casts shock.•Niko reponds by playing Restoration Angel and blinks the Automaton <- oops

•Judge call !