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Despite the act that the unemployment rate is currently 9.7% and projected to rise throughout much o 2010,
many policy makers remain reluctant to take urther strong action aimed at job creation in the short-term.
Further, many commentators have applauded this reluctance.
Policy makers most commonly cite a concern over the ederal budget decit to justiy their inaction on the jobs
crisis. A previous primer explored the economics and arithmetic o budget decits (Bivens 2010) and addressed a broad
range o arguments made about them. One o the most widespread (and most pedigreed) arguments used to malign
budget decits is the claim that rising decits will lead to rising interest rates that will choke o any incipient recovery.
Decit hawks invoke this specter every time these rates nudge upwards and routinely issue warnings about how todayslow rates can turn on a dime. Tis paper shows how these ears are misplaced. It argues that economic undamentals
are placing great downward, not upward, pressure on interest rates, and consequently, todays low rates will persist right
up until the economy has begun a robust recovery that sharply reduces the current slack in labor and capital markets.
It examines the historical relationships between decits,
savings, and interest rates and reviews the economic theories
behind these relationships. Its key ndings are:
Tere is no evidence that large increases in the ederal
budget decits during recessions or even periods o
slower-than-trend growth are associated with risinginterest rates.
Te mechanisms behind this non-relationship are
clearrising public borrowing during recessions
generally just makes up or allingprivateborrowing,
leaving pressure on interest rates in the markets or
savings and investment roughly unchanged. Further,
private savings rates tend to rise during recessions as
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households cut back consumption and businesses cut
back on new investments. Tis, all else equal, increases
the pool o unds available or borrowing and actually
puts downwardpressure on interest rates.
Te correspondence in the current recession between
large increases in the ederal budget decit and his-
torically low interest rates is nota uke or a puzzle.
Indeed, there is no serious reason to expect interest
rates to rise until a robust recovery is underway and
pre-recession unemployment rates are approached.
t m o f , llFigure Aprovides the empirical base or ignoring interest
rate ear-mongering in the current economic environment.
he bars in this igure show new borrowing by the
ederal government since the end o 2006, while the
lines show interest rates on long-term reasuries. As
the gure shows, large recent increases in ederal govern-
ment borrowing have clearly not translated into spiking
interest rates.
Te most important thing to note about this lack o
correspondence is that it is not a puzzle. Tis paper will
explain why.
Te very short version as to why decits are notleading to rising interest rates right now is as ollows:
decits only put upward pressure on interest rates when
there are no idle resources in the economy. Resources
are idled as households and businesses pull back on new
spending and throw the economy into recession. Further,
part o this spending pullback is reduced demand or new
investments, and this translates directly into lowerinterest
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rates as less new borrowing is needed to und investments.
In short, the upward pressure put on interest rates by
increasedpublicborrowing is ully oset (and then some)
by downward pressure on interest rates coming rom
reducedprivateborrowing.
Te very short version o the case against ederalbudget decits that is based on interest rate ears relies on
the assumption that private-sector savings and investment
demands are xed, and consequently as the government
begins borrowing more (i.e., it begins to run budget
decits) it is competing against (xed) private-sector
borrowers or (xed) scarce private savings. Tis competi-
tion bids up the cost o borrowing (i.e., interest rates) and
this rise in borrowing costs leads to less private invest-
ment. Future living standards depend in part on the
size o the capital stock, so less investment today that
leads to a smaller capital stock tomorrow can hamstring
uture growth.
Tis latter story is not implausible, and indeed there
are economic times and places where policy makers should
worry about just these circumstances. However, the United
States in 2010 (as in 2009 and almost surely 2011) is not
such a time and place. odays increased public borrowing
is not happening while private-sector borrowing is xed,
it is instead occurring in the midst o a record reduction in
private-sector borrowing and spending
Te rest o this brieng paper provides more back-
ground on the link between decits and interest rates. Te
irst section is an overview o how interest rates are
determined in the U.S. economy, discussing issues related
to the Federal Reserve and market or debt (or loanable
unds). Te second section examines trends in private
savings and spending in the current recession and outlines
their implications or interest rates. Te third section
examines trends in public borrowing and spending and
outlines how public and private savings have interacted in
the current recession to aect interest rates. It concludes
by arguing that increases in the ederal budget decit
will not push up interest rates or years to come and
certainly not beore a robust recovery is underway and
pre-recession levels o unemployment are approached. As
a robust recovery is achieved, then (and only then) the
budget decit should start being reduced.
t l rv mk o lol Te Federal Reserve (or, the Fed) controls a couple o
crucial interest rates in the economyessentially the rates
that set the price or very short-term (overnight) loans o
reserves rom the Fed to banks. Te common descriptionthat the Fed sets interest rates may give the impression
that the Fed controls all interest rates in the economy. It
does not.
Te interest rates that matter most or the decisions
o businesses and consumers to borrow and spend are
interest rates on debt that is longer-term than overnight
loans rom the Fed, riskier than reserves at the Fed, and
which can be aected greatly by movements in ination.
ake interest rates in the market or corporate debt,
or example. Firms that wish to expand plant and equip-ment purchases may decide to borrow (issue bonds) to
nance this investment. Tese bonds are typically long-
termthey oten have maturity dates quite a bit longer
than overnightthree, ve, or 10 years or even longer.
Further, these bonds are riskymost private corpora-
tions, even the largest, are less insulated rom the risk o
deaulting on debt than the ederal government. Lastly,
holding private debt or a long time leaves the lenders
exposed to the risk that a burst o ination will degrade
the value o these bonds.
Because o this, real (ination-adjusted) interest rates
in the market or long-term and risky debt will be quite a
bit higher than the very short-term rates controlled by the
Fed. Te Feds movement o short-term rates can inuence
these longer-term rates; as the Fed cuts short-term rates
this should create some downward pressure on longer-
term rates, mostly by providing the possibility o nancial
arbitrage on the part o potential lenders. But the real
interest rate or risky, longer-term debt is also largely
determined in active markets, not just through conven-
tional Fed policy.1
How the market or risky, longer-term debt(or, the loanable unds market) worksIn a well-unctioning economy, interest rate adjustments
theoretically allow any given households extra savings to be
seamlessly translated into greater investment spending. Te
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market where savings and investment meet is the market
or loanable unds. Savings (whether provided by domestic
or oreign lenders) constitutes the supply o loanable unds
in the economy while investment spending constitutes
the demand. When savings (supply) exceed investment
(demand), then interest rates (the price o loanable unds)should all.2 Lower interest rates should then spur demand
or new investments. I all o this happens seamlessly, any
pullback in household spending on consumption goods
that makes extra savings possible should not harm the
economy, as the market or loanable unds ensures that
investment spending (responding to lower interest rates)
rises one-or-one to oset the decline in consumer spending.3
Unortunately, theres a hitch in this argument that
makes large pullbacks in consumer spending almost never
seamless or the overall economy: both overall savings
and the demand or new investments (that is, the two
sides o the loanable unds market) depend on national
income. As national income rises, even i the savings rate
remains constant, overall savings rise and provide extra
supply in the loanable unds market. Further, as national
income rises, irms tend to respond by stepping up
investment demand.
o put it more succinctly, many things besides interest
rates determine the level o national savings and invest-mentand these other determinants have been moving
wildly since the recession began. Te next two sections
describe these developments in the demand and supply
side o the loanable unds market in some depth.
Pv v, p, oTe most important thing to note about developments in the
private sector since the recession began is that allo the
determinants o interest rates stemming rom it are actually
pushing them down, not up. Private supply or loanable
unds has increased, while private demandhas collapsed.
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SupplyOn the supply side, the bursting o the housing bubble
made tens o millions o households realize that they were
less wealthy than they had previously thought. Tis has
made them begin saving more to both meet long-run wealth
goals (or retirement income or paying or kids college edu-cation, or example) and to take precautions in the ace o a
higher probability that they will become unemployed.
DemandOn the demand side, this rise in savings by both house-
holds and businesses has not translated into a rise in
investment demand.4 Instead, the pullback in consumer
spending led to a large decline in total national incomes
not surprising, as consumer spending is roughly 70% o
the overall U.S. economy. And because the overall state
o the economy is a prime driver o the demand or
new investment, this urther led to a very sharp reduction
in demand or investments and the loanable unds oten
used to nance them.
Figure B illustrates this, charting the rise in the personal
savings rate against the pronounced all in total private
investment. Tis quick examination o the private sector
shows that leaping to the conclusion that interest ratesmust rise when public debt rises is to be guilty o ignoring
what is happening in the private sector, both on the
demand and the supply side o the loanable unds market.
Federal Reserve policyAt the same time and in response to this same all-o
in private demand, the Fed has slashed the short-term
rates it controls to eectively zero over the past three
years (see Figure C).
Yet, even this aggressive action by the Fed has not
been enough to spur investment spending and counter-
balance the pullback in consumer spending caused by
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the bursting housing bubble. And with the interest rate
controlled by the Fed now near zero, they are essentially
out o their conventional ammunition. I, somehow, the
Fed could engineer negative interest rates, this could con-
ceivably spur enough new investment demand to pull the
economy back out o recession. Indeed, researchers at theSan Francisco Federal Reserve had argued that interest rates
o negative 5% to 6% would be needed or interest rate cuts
alone to push the economy back to ull employment.
However, negative nominal interest rates are impossible
people can (and will) always choose to hold their wealth in
the orm o cash (or checking accounts) rather than bonds i
interest rates actually became negative. While zero nominal
interest rates can be associated with negative real interest rates
when there is ination, the last year has seen the longest sus-
tained period o deation in the past 50 years, and driving real
rates down through rapid ination in a recessionary economy
is unlikely unless the Federal Reserve undertakes a radically
dierent course than it has ever pursued beore. It very likely
should undertake this course, but let alone, real interest rates
will not go steeply negative because o expected ination any-
time soon.
Pl v p( f), rovya, Te initial pullback in private spending has now cascaded
into lost jobs and decelerating wage growth, leading to
even urther downward pressure on spending. And even
worse than that, the Feds interest rate cuts traditionally
spur economic activity in part through increased home
sales and home building. Te housing bubble led to
massive over-building in the residential (and to a slightly
lesser extent, the commercial) real estate market, so
ar ewer new housing units or commercial buildings
will be needed anytime soon, making this important
mechanism ineective.o stop this downward cascade o private spending
rom pulling the economy into a depression, the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) was passed to
ramp up public spending on relie and investments.
It is important to note that the inuence o ARRA on
the decit is actually quite small relative to the purely
mechanical inuence o a slowing economy on the ederal
budget. As incomes and asset prices all and as the labor
market weakens, tax collections all and saety net spending
expands, even absent any policy change. Te rise in the
decit that accompanied the extraordinary all in private
spending over the past year (a rise oten reerred to as the
result, in part, o automatic stabilizers) exceeded $800billion in 2009 alone. ARRA, by contrast, increased the
decit by roughly $180 billion in scal year 2009 and just
under $400 billion in scal 2010.
As the economy alls,decits risethankullyGiven the conventional Beltway wisdom that budget
decits are always and everywhere damaging, it is perhaps
surprising to hear that this large automatic rise in the
budget decit was a very good thing. Surprising or not,
however, it certainly was. Without the rise in the govern-
ment spending and reductions in taxes that led to the
budget decit, American households would have had over
$800 billion subtracted rom their purchasing power.
How important was this stabilization provided by
decit-nanced increases in spending and tax reductions?
Macroeconomic orecasters rom Goldman Sachs, or
example, estimate that the pullback in private spending
that began the current recession was larger (scaled against
the overall economy) than that which characterized the
beginning o the Great Depression. In 1930, however, the
government targeted budget balance as a goal and the initial
shock to private spending was ampliedby reductions
in public spending. In the current recession, the large
increase in the decit accompanying the initial shock to
private spending was instead mufed by a concomitant
rise in public spending.
However, while these automatic stabilizers cushioned
the initial shock to the economy rom the reduction in
private spending, they did not completely neutralize it.
Further public spending and increases in the decit wereneeded and this is why ARRA was passed. It has, so ar,
largely done its advertised job: in the rst three quarters o
implementation (the second, third, and ourth quarters o
2009), ARRA added between 2 and 3 percentage points
to overall GDP and created or saved between 1.5 to 2
million jobs. Over 2009, 2010, and 2011, ARRA will add
roughly $700 billion to the decit.
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Figure D provides some evidence on how large decits
and public spending, both those arising rom automatic
stabilizers as well as those associated with ARRA, have
mued the initial shock to the economy. Te gure
compares data on personal income minus transers, which
can be thought o as a rough proxy or spending power
generated by the private sector o the economy, and dis-
posable personal income, which includes the eect o taxes
and transers on households purchasing power. Personalincomes minus transers have allen by almost 7% since
the recession began, while disposable personal incomes
have actuallyrisen slightly. Tis stabilization o disposable
personal income kept consumer spending rom alling
even more than the 1% it has declined since the recession
began. In short, looking at Figure D, one realizes that i
consumer spending had tracked personal incomes minus
transersinstead odisposable personal income, that is, i there
had not been large increase in the decit, the economic
contraction would have been much, much greater.
Will large decits causeinterest rates to rise?We should not worry that large decits (resulting either di-
rectly rom the recessions impact on the ederal budget or
rom temporary interventions aimed at ghting recession)will lead to large interest rate spikes and threaten to choke
o the very recovery they were meant to encourage.
While the previous section provided the reasoning or
this sanguine take (recent increases in public-sector bor-
rowing are just mirroring pullbacks in private-sector bor-
rowing), Figure E provides the evidence, tracking budget
decits and interest rates over time. In act, large increases
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in the budget decit since 1954 are associated with large
alls in interest rates. It is important to note again that
this is not a puzzle. Large increases in the budget decit
occur exactly when the economy enters recession, hence
the decit rises just as private demand or loanable unds
plummets. Tis is not a coincidenceit is automatic
stabilizers (and sometimes legislated scal policy responses)
in action. he plummeting private spending is also
associated with a decline in private demand or loanable
unds, as rms shelve plans or new plant and equip-ment. Further, as the economy enters recession, the Fed
invariably begins cutting the interest rates that it controls.
Is public borrowing crowdingout corporate nancing?Figure F provides more direct evidence that growing public
demands in the loanable unds market are not crowding
out desired private investments. Tis gure shows the
corporate nancing gapthe dierence between cash
low and investment in ixed assets and inventories. I
investments exceed cash ow internal unds, then rms
will have to go into the loanable unds market to borrow.
For all o 2009, the corporate sector nancing gap
was actuallynegativemeaning that there was, on net, no
need or the corporate sector to venture into the loanable
unds market, as all investment could have been nanced
with internal unds. Tis negative nancing gap is espe-cially striking given the very large recession-induced
decline in corporate cash low. In this context, with
demand or new investments and new borrowing in the
private sector so small that it could be completely nanced
out o rapidly shrinking internal unds, it seems very hard
to make the case that anybody is being crowded out o
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How soon do we need to worry aboutrising interest rates?Given this pronounced weakness in private demand or
new borrowing, interest rates will only begin rising i
the economy begins moving briskly back to ull employ-
ment. In a sense, rising interest rates would actually be
evidence that the economy is recovering, not evidence that
incipient recovery is being choked o by proligate
government spending.
In short, we should worry about the impact o decits
on interest rates only atera robust recovery has put idle
resources (labor and capital) back to work. Tis has not
happened yet and is still years rom happening. Te Con-
gressional Budget Ofce (CBO), or example, projects
that a return to the pre-recession (2007) unemployment
rate will occur only in 2014.6 Further, this recession also
saw the capacity utilization rate (the share o the nations
actory capacity that is in use) reach the lowest level since
data on this began being collected in 1967. In short, absent
extraordinarily ast growth in coming years, there will be
idle resources in the economy or quite some time.
Crowding-in more likely than crowding-outCurrently the economy is nowhere near the point where
private activity is being crowded out. Private demand or
loans has plummeted, and idle resources abound. Further,
most economic studies o private investment decisions
actually nd that current GDP growth has a greater im-
pact on investment than interest rates have.7 So, a stimulus
package that adds to GDP will substantially crowd-in
private investment through this so-called accelerator
eect (rising GDP leading to rising investment spending).
Lastly, a robust economic recovery will actually
provide its own moderating pressure on interest rates.
As national income begins growing again, total national
savings will mechanically risetotal national savings is
generally an increasing unction o national income, so
as income rises savings will rise as well. Tis increase in
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national savings will increase the supply o loanable unds,
which will put downward pressure on interest rates.
Opponents o stimulus will use any uptick in interest
rates to generate ear that decits are threatening to choke
o growth. In the last two weeks o June 2009 there were
numerous stories about rising long-term interest rates and
the role o decits. Te Figure G shows just how odd
those claims werelong-term rates are wobbling up and
down a little, but they have been very low since the all o
2008 and remained so throughout the passage o ARRA.
The eect o the fight to saetySo, what happened in late spring 2009 to nudge up
reasury interest rates? Interest rates on government debt
have many determinants besides the level o the ederal
decit. Te most important determinant over the past
year has been the perceived level o risk o private alterna-
tives to government debt as stores o wealth: the nancial
crisis and widespread threat o bankruptcy in almost all
major nancial institutions made investors around the
world scared o essentiallyall private debt instruments.
Tey ocked to holding government bonds (this is some-
times labeled a ight to saety), driving up the prices
o these bonds and driving down their interest rates to
historical lows. As ears o widespread nancial institution
bankruptcy abate, it is expected that eventually investors
would be willing to exchange public or private debt
instruments, and this would lead to an uptick in interest
rates on public debt. Again, this would not be a problem,rather it would be an indicator o economic recovery
and stabilization.
Similarly, the last two weeks o March 2010 also saw
a slight uptick in long-term rates. Given that these rates
remained ar below the pre-recession levels, it would have
been obviously strange to make much o this. Instead,
many commentators wrote that the large spread between
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short- and long-term interest rates were a worrisome sign,
reecting either ears o a deault on government debt or
higher expected ination ears. However, most market
indicators o expected ination (which would surely be a
precursor to wholesale deault) show no such signs. Te
interest rate spread between nominal and inlation-
protected bonds, or example, has not moved at all in the
past ew months (see Figure H). In short, while worries
break out every time the long-term rate wobbles upward,
there remain no signs at all that decit spending is pushing
up interest rates to a degree that is osetting private-sector
pressures that are pushing these rates down.
Are oreign investors providing areprieve rom higher interest rates?It is clearly not true that we need to rely on oreign nancing
o recent budget deicits to keep interest rates rom
rising, though many oten raise this ear when discussing
the decit. Figure I shows that private-sector savings in
the United States rose more than public-sector borrowing
over the past year, meaning that the additions to public
debt o this time could be ully accommodated by domestic
savings. Foreign nancing can indeed be necessary to keep
interest rates low during economic expansions, but it is
not needed to stem upward pressure on rates during reces-
sions and periods o idle resources.8
coloTe connection between persistent low interest rates and
the expanding ederal decit in 2008 and 2009 is oten
presented as both a puzzle and also a uke that is likely to
quickly reverse and imperil any incipient economic recovery.
Both o these scenarios are wrong. Te correspondence
o low interest rates and growing decits is not a puzzle,
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rather it is ully predicted by mainstream economics. As
long as private demand or new borrowing and spending
is weak, then increased public borrowing will not cause
sustained upward pressure on interest rates. Strong private
demand or spending and borrowing will mark a robust
recovery that sharply reduces the current slack in labor
and capital markets. Only when unemployment rates and
capacity utilization rates are back near pre-recession levels
should policy makers worry about the impact o decits
on interest rates.
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eoNote that the Fed could intervene directly in the market or long-1.term debt by purchasing longer-term assetseven private assets.o a limited degree, the Fed has done this in the current recession.raditionally, however, the Fed restricts itsel to setting the veryshort-term interest rates mentioned above.
Tis assumes that there is not an innitely elastic supply o2. savings available to the economy at a xed interest rate. For alarge country like the United States, this assumption is almostsurely correct.
It is worth noting that3. investingin this regard has a very specicmeaning: building new plants and equipment or building newresidential housing. Buying a share o stock is not investing toan economistits just transerring ownership. Investing is some-thing that increases the physical capital stock o the economy.O course, spending money to augment human capital is also aproductive investment. In the macroeconomic statistical aggre-gates, however, only investments in physical capital are measuredand tracked.
Tis obviously begs the question o just how oten the economy4.is well-behaved. Many economists (including the author othis report) who would sel-identiy as Keynesian would arguethat the economy is very rarely well-behaved absent govern-ment management, at the very least through a Federal Reservethat took economic growth into account when making monetarypolicy decisions.
For more on this, see Irons, Edwards, and urner (2009).5.
Its worth noting as well that the pre-recession unemployment6.rate o 4.9% is by no means as low as unemployment can go. Inthe late 1990s the unemployment rate dipped below 4% withoutsparking any economic overheating.
See Bernanke, Gertler, and Gilchrist (1999); Carpenter, Fazzari,7.and Peterson (1998); and Binswanger (1999) or evidence on this.
O course, it is ar rom clear that oreign nancing that keeps8.interest rates low during economic expansions is a good long-term economic strategy. A orthcoming brieng paper will examinethis issue in some depth.
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