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Calculating the Cost for Calculating the Cost for Language Services Language Services
15 June 201215 June 2012
Evert van der Vlis Evert van der Vlis
Ministry of Security and JusticeMinistry of Security and Justice
The HagueThe Hague
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OutlineOutlineo Impact assessmentImpact assessmento Available data and statisticsAvailable data and statisticso Estimation of the cost of the Directive Estimation of the cost of the Directive
for Hollandfor Hollando Questions and discussionQuestions and discussion
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COMMISSION OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES
Brussels, 8.7.2009SEC(2009) 915
COMMISSION STAFF WORKING DOCUMENT
Proposal for a Council Framework Decision on the right to interpretation and translation in criminal proceedings
Accompanying theProposal for a
FRAMEWORK DECISION
on the right to interpretation and to translation in criminal proceedings
IMPACT ASSESSMENT
{COM(2009) 338 final}{SEC(2009) 916}
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Estimated number of criminal proceedings involving non-nationals 2007
Country Population Non-
nationals % Criminal
proc. non-
nationals Belgium 10.584.534 932.161 8.8% 18.628
France 63.392.140 3.650.100 5.8% 73.534
Germany 82.314.906 7.255.949 8.8% 255.498
Luxembourg
476.187 198.213 41.6% 3.961
Netherlands
16.357.992 681.932 4.2% 53.592
United Kingdom
60.816.701 3.659.900 6% 112.878
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Numbers and percentages of non-nationals in prison
and pre-trial detainees (2006-2007) Country Prison Pre-trial
detainees Prison%
Pre-trial
detainees %
Belgium 4.234 1.753 42.9% 41.4
France 12.341 -- 19.4% --
Germany 20.485 5.569 26.3% 27.2%
Luxembourg
546 255 73.4 46.7
Netherlands
4.246 1.315 29.1% 31%
United Kingdom
11.310 1.602 14.2% 14.2%
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Estimated costs of interpretation and translation
Country Criminal proc. non-
nationals
Costs Interpretation € 200
Costs Translation 30 pages € 255-€1500
Belgium 16.598 € 3.725.600 € 4.750.140 € 27.942.000
France 73.534 € 14.706.800 € 18.751.170€ 110.301.000
Germany 255.498 € 51.099.600 € 130.303.980€ 766.494.000
Luxembourg 3.961 € 792.200 € 1.010.055€ 5.941.500
Netherlands 53.592 € 10.718.400 € 13.665.980€ 80.388.000
United Kingdom
112.878 ₤ 37.500.000 ₤ 24.896.602₤ 146.450.604
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Calculations UK Cost of interpretation
1.881.306Number criminal proceedings in the UK
188.131 10% of cases involve non-nationals
£ 37.500.000 UK Spent on interpretation in 2007
£ 199 Average spent per case
€ 200 Average spent per case
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What is missing? • Reliable data on the number of people who need an
interpreter or translator (many non-nationals do speak the language)
• Second and third generation migrants• Data on current fees for interpreter and translation in
criminal proceedings (EULITA?)• Information about practical arrangements:
• National register• Contracts with agencies • Telephone interpreting• Videoconferencing
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The European Commission for the
Efficiency of Justice • 4th Report - Edition
September 2012
• Correspondents in all member states
www.coe.int/T/dghl/cooperation/cepej/default_en.asp
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Table 16.1 Number of certified court interpreters in 2008 and 2010. Evolution between 2008 and 2010 (Q199)
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AndorraArmenia
Albania BulgariaAustria CyprusAzerbaijan Czech RepublicBelgium EstoniaBosnia and Herzegovina FinlandCroatia FranceDenmark GermanyGeorgia GreeceIceland HungaryLatvia IrelandLithuania ItalyLuxembourg MaltaMonaco MoldovaMontenegro NorwayNetherlands PortugalPoland RomaniaSerbia Russian FederationSlovakia San MarinoSlovenia SpainThe FYROMacedonia SwedenUK-England and Wales SwitzerlandUK-Northern Ireland TurkeyUK-Scotland Ukraine
Yes (23 countries)48%
No (25 countries)52%
Table 16.5 Binding provisions regarding the qualityof court interpreters in judicial proceedings (Q200)
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Figure 16.2 Number of certified court interpreters per professional judge (Q46 Q199)
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• Crime and Criminal Justice, Crime and Criminal Justice, 2006-2009 - Issue number 2006-2009 - Issue number 6/2012 “6/2012 “Statistics in focus”Statistics in focus”
• Crime trends in the European Crime trends in the European Union Union
• Metadata files on the Metadata files on the Eurostat websiteEurostat website
• Crimes recorded by the Crimes recorded by the police:police:
• Prison population Prison population • European Demography European Demography
Report Report Migration: foreign Migration: foreign populationpopulation
• 31.9 31.9 millionmillion non-nationals in non-nationals in the EUthe EUwww.epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/crime
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Immigrants per 1000 inhabitants 2009
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European Sourcebook of Crime and Criminal Justice
Statistics - 2010 www.europeansourcebook.org
Contains data for 40 European countries
Council of Europe Annual Penal Statistics
www3.unil.ch/wpmu/space
Contains data on prison populations
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www.migrationinformation.org
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Implementation in the Netherlandso Draft bill consultation in December 2011
o Comments received from:o Bureau for Sworn Interpreters and Translatorso Bar Associationo Council for the Judiciaryo Policeo Public Prosecution Service o SIGV Court Interpreters and Legal Translators o Dutch Society of Interpreters and Translators
o Cabinet (today!)o The Dutch Council of State - advises the
government on legislation (July 2012) o Dutch House of Representatives (September
2012)o Senate of the Dutch Parliament (± April 2013)
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The Netherlands
Population 2009 Number
Immigrants 3.287.706
Dutch nationals 13.198.081
Non Western immigrants 1.809.310
Western immigrants 1.478.396
Africa 543.649
America 598.936
Asia 726.646
Oceania 20.025
EU countries 877.552
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217.000 suspects1.5 % of the population
2008Total ♂ ♀
Total 1,5 % 2,5 % 0,5 %
Dutch nationals
1,2 % 1,9 % 0,4 %
Western immigrants
1,5 % 2,4 % 0,6 %
Non-western migrants
4,3 % 7,0 % 1,5 %
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Origin detainees
Detainees on 6 December 2008
Number
Total 11.934
Dutch nationals 9.075
East Europe & Russia 455
Europe 369
Africa 775
America 402
Asia 117
Middle East 327
Unknown 414
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Language services in the NetherlandsLanguage services in the Netherlands
• Mainly oral translation• Lawyer client Interpreter • At all stages of the criminal case an interpreter
present • Fixed payments: Public Prosecutors, Courts and
investigation by the police• Public Prosecutors and courts have a centralized
booking system• Legal aid provided by agency (European tender)
± 50% Telephone interpreting (no fixed fees)
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Interpreting/Translating Legal Aid 2010
Total
Lawyer client Interpreter 86.111
Telephone interpreting 35.209
Face to face interpreting 34.055
Cancellations by lawyer or client 16.157
Cancellations by interpreter 690
Translations into Dutch 6.850
Translations from Dutch 1.241
Total Cost € 12.413.000
Cancellations € 326.130
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Interpreting/translating Police, Public Prosecutors, Courts 2010
Total
Police (Including tapping of telecommunications)
± € 13.000.000
Public Prosecutors interpreting € 2.834.000
Public Prosecutors translating € 3.516.000
Public Prosecutors travel cost interpreters
€ 1.414.000
Courts Interpreting/translating ± € 890.000
Total Cost 2010 Total
Interpreting/translations ± € 34.067.000
Register of Sworn Interpreters and Translators
€ 879.000
Total ± € 34.946.000
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NumberStandard
80%Unique
20%Total
Police detention order
8.000 6.400 1.600 ± € 100. 000
Provisional detention order
4.000 2.400 1.600 ± € 100.000
Sanctions public Prosecutor
3.000 2.500 500 ± € 100.000
Indictment 15.000 12.000 3.000 ± € 800.000
Verdict 14.000 11.200 2.800 ± € 600.000
Documents 7.000 ± € 5.000.000
Total Cost ± € 6.700.000
Estimated additional cost directive
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Impact assessment EU
Cost of Interpretation € 10.718.400
Cost of Translation minimum € 13 665.980
Cost of Translation maximum € 80.388.000
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Annual budget crime prevention and criminal law
enforcemento Total € 7.831 milliono Public Prosecution Service € 430
milliono Criminal Courts € 259 million o Legal aid in Criminal Cases € 111
milliono Salduz case: Right to consult a lawyer
prior to police interview € 30 million
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Questions and discussionQuestions and discussion