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August 28, 2016 22nd Sunday in Ordinary Time
OUR LADY OF FATIMA Catholic Church
...a Eucharistic community living the
Good News daily.
Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission.
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MASS SAT 8:30 AM, 5:30 PM (Vigil) SUN 7, 99, 11 AM, 1 PM (Span) 5 PM, 7 PM (Span) MON 8:30 AM TUE 8:30 AM, 6:30 PM (Span) WED 8:30 AM THU 8:30 AM FRI 8:30 AM
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My child, conduct your affairs with humility, and you will be loved more than a giver of gifts. Humble yourself the more, the greater you are, and you will ind favor with God. - SIR 3:17-18
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SUNDAY 8/28 READINGS/LECTURAS Sir 3:17-18, 20, 28-29; Ps 68:4-7, 10-11; Heb 12:18-19, 22-24a; Lk 14:1, 7-14 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 7am Brian Frees 9am Lee Heersema + 11am Tommy Perrin + 1pm 5pm Robert Moro + 7pm Carlos Maldonado
LIVING AS STEWARDS The First Reading in today’s Holy Scripture is from the Old Testament Book of Sirach. At times this Bible book has also been called the Wisdom of Sirach. Similar to Proverbs, Sirach is a series of teachings recorded between 200 and 175 BC. The irst verse of this reading captures one of the key elements of stew-ardship. It says, “My child, conduct your affairs with humility, and you will be loved more than a giver of gifts.” The word “humility” literally means “of the earth” or in a phrase which might mean more to us “down to earth.” The good stew-ard realizes that he or she receives everything from a loving and generous God. That can be a humbling recognition. “True humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less,” is how the eminent author and theologian C.S. Lewis put it. We are important in the eyes of God. Jesus emptied Him-self in our behalf. He was humility incarnate. Washing the feet of His Apostles, He comes to us at every Mass in com-mon bread and wine. If we practice and pursue stewardship as a way of life, we choose to let others be more important; we are not controlling; we support others in silent ways. Are you willing to let God take charge of your life? Being a steward means that. That is the message from Sirach, and it is a message given us by Jesus over and over. For a longer re lection on living stew-ardship, visit: http://www.thecatholicsteward.com/ Para la traduccion en espanol ver la pagina 5.
The good steward realizes that he or she receives everything from a loving and generous God. That can be a humbling recognition.
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SACRAMENT OF RECONCILIATION (Confessions) Saturday 4 pm—5 pm EUCHARISTIC ADORATION Mon—Fri 9 am—9 pm Saturday 9 am—5:30 pm PARISH OFFICE HOURS Mon—Fri 9 am—12 pm; 1 pm—6 pm
MONDAY 8/29 READINGS/LECTURAS 1 Cor 2:1-5; Ps 119:97-102; Mk 6:17-29 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am Carlos Maldonado
TUESDAY 8/30
READINGS/LECTURAS 1 Cor 2:10b-16; Ps 145:8-14; Lk 4:31-37 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am 6:30pm
Daily Readings can be found at www.usccb.org/bible/index.cfm
WWEDNESDAY 8/31 READINGS/LECTURAS 1 Cor 3:1-9; Ps 33:12-15, 20-21; Lk 4:38-44 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am
THURSDAY 9/1
READINGS/LECTURAS 1 Cor 3:18-23; Ps 24:1bc-4ab, 5-6; Lk 5:1-11 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am Mary Zeek +
FRIDAY 9/2 READINGS/LECTURAS 1 Cor 4:1-5; Ps 37:3-6, 27-28, 39-40; Lk 5:33-39 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am
SATURDAY 9/3 READING/LECTURAS 1 Cor 4:6b-15; Ps 145:17-21; Lk 6:1-5 INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 8:30am Robert Moro + 5:30pm
SUNDAY 9/4 READING/LECTURAS Wis 9:13-18b; Ps 90:3-6, 12-17; Phlm 9-10, 12-17; Lk 14:25-33
INTENTIONS/INTENCIONES 7am Misa Pro Popolo 9am 11am 1pm 5pm 7pm
FROM OUR PAROCHIAL VICAR Dear Parishioners and Friends of Our Lady of Fatima,
HUMILITY I really admire Pope Francis for his humility. He is the shepherd of the Roman Catholic Church worldwide who could live like a king, but he has chosen to live in a simple way. Next to the Sistine Chapel, at the Vatican, there is a suite where popes have lived for centuries. But he chose to live at the Santa Martha Guest House, a place reserved for cardinals and bish-ops who visit the pontiff. Living in a simple
way is important for him. He does not need very much to live a happy life. Pope Francis has truly embraced the spirituality of Jesus Christ who teaches us to be meek and humble of heart. Yes, he has servants and many assistants as well as the Swiss guards that protect him. But imitat-ing Jesus Christ, the humble suffering Servant is important for the Holy Father. The world teaches us that we must be number one in all that we do and have the best of everything to be happy. By his own example the Holy Father teaches us that we can have a happy meaningful life, imitat-ing Jesus Christ who was and is God, but chose to live a simple life two thousand years ago. God bless you all! Fr. Sal
28 de agosto, 2016 28º Domingo del Tiempo Ordinario
Para la traduccion en espanol ver la pagina 8.
Financial Peace University Nationally acclaimed radio talk show host Dave Ramsey’s program is returning to OLF for nine weeks starting Thursday, September 15. The program is a Christian-based ministry designed to help people learn to get out of debt, manage their personal inances, and ind peace by handling money the Lord’s way. Contact Frank Garza at [email protected] for further information.
PAZ FINANCIERA Paz Financiera para usted y su fa-milia de acuerdo al plan de Dios Desea salir de deudas, aprender a aho-rrar para bien de su familia e invertir para bien de sus hijos ası como es el plan de Dios.
Le invitamos al curso de Paz Financiera para usted y su familia. Este se llevara a cabo en ingles y espanol todos los jueves empezando el 15 de septiembre y termi-nando el 17 de noviembre, de las 7 a las 9 de la noche, en el Salon Parroquial de Nuestra Senora de Fatima. Si desea mas informacion o para inscri-birse comunıquese al 949-365-6451.
PARISH CALENDAR/ CALENDARIO PARROQUIAL
Our parish calendar is online! Visit www.olfchurch.net/calendar.html for the most up-to-date information on events and activities. ¡Nuestro calendario de la parroquia esta en Internet! Por favor visite www.olfchurch.net/calendar.html para la informacion mas actualizada sobre eventos y actividades en nuestra parroquia.
Join Fa ma MOPS (Mothers of Preschoolers)!
Registration is now open for the fall semester. MOPS twice a month with onsite childcare plus playdates and Mom’s Nights Out. Meetings resume September 23 at 9am in McGowan Hall. Sign up today to reserve your childcare spot for this amazing group! For more information please contact Sarah Donovan at [email protected].
NEWS, EVENTS & OPPORTUNITIES Donate the Gi of Life! Blood Drive THIS SUNDAY 8:30am - 2:30pm McGowan Hall-A Walk-ins welcome! No appointment necessary. All blood collected will be designated for Mission Hospital. Thank you for your generosity.
Colecta de Sangre ESTE DOMINGO 8:30 am - 2:30 pm Salón McGowan-A Todos son bienvenidos! No es necesario tener cita. Toda la sangre colectada sera designada para el Hospital Mission. Gracias por su generosidad.
Graphic Designer—Bulle n Do you have a few hours a week to offer to your parish? The Sunday newsletter (bulletin) remains an important communication tool for our parish. It’s purpose is to draw the reader into a deeper relationship with the church. Good design is important and we need some help. The parish is looking for a volunteer graphic designer to manage the layout of our newsletter. Contact Robin Margraf at [email protected]
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Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion Mee ng September 10, a er 8:30am Mass
Among other items, we will be discussing some changes in our procedure to help the distribution of Holy Communion. You won’t want to miss this meeting. For more information, contact Timothy Donovan [email protected] or the Of ice of Music and Liturgy at 492-4101 x116.
Leaders & Teen Assistants for Liturgy of the Word for Children
Liturgy of the Word for Children is a program directed to children in grades 1-5 during the 9am Mass. This ministry currently has openings for leaders and teen assistants. Leaders must have a love of the Liturgy and an understanding of effective communication with children. Leaders serve on a rotating basis every 4-5 weeks. Training will be provided on Sunday, September 11 after the 9am Mass in McGowan Hall-E. This program resumes on September 18. Please contact Rosa Rama at 492-4101 or [email protected] to explore this opportunity.
We pray for all the sick Oremos por los enfermos Guy Gansel Mark Mikulics Elizabeth Lopez Geri Burns Michael Houska Kurt Schneider Leo Block Aida Perales Elba Johnston Janice Cooper
Holden Zimmerle Kathy Mitchell Jane Enquist Arthur Flores Cole Wilkins Don Reese Noel Kelley Avalon Bennett Larry Rice Shaldon Jacobs
and our beloved dead. y por nuestros queridos. Lee Heersema Antonio Mendoza Maria Porcel Alissa Burns Rafael Diaz Corrine Shahid Karl Schuler Sharon Tripp Corrine Throp Jay Torrez
Norma Hernandez Thomas Bell Maria Bocci Helen Lang Oscar Montiel Juanita Northrup Ida Ricci Sharon Melton and all victims of war and violence.
Children’s Choir
Parents do you know what your chil-dren are singing? Watch next week’s newsletter for exciting news on our children’s choir.
28 de agosto, 2016 22º Domingo del Tiempo Ordinario
UPCOMING EVENTS 2016-2017 Dinner Circles Kickoff Dinner October 7, 6pm—McGowan Hall
Dinner circles are a group of 6-8 parishioners who gather on a regular basis to share a meal together. All adults, couples and singles, are invited to join. Contact Carol ([email protected]) or Ann ([email protected]) for more info.
Annual Golf Tournament Knights of Columbus October 10 / San Juan Hills GC Includes lunch, green fees, awards banquet, and more. Support your church, school, and other Knights’ charities. For information contact Richard at 429-1151 or [email protected].
Women's Silent Retreat October 7 - 9 / Sacred Heart Retreat House, Alhambra "I have loved you with an everlasting love." Treat yourself to a wonderful retreat experience. Our retreat master will be Rev. David Kueter, OMV. Please contact Mary Harrigan at 714-290-6174 or 949-492-8945 for more information. We have a limited number of beds available but also have a Saturday only option. Carpooling will be arranged.
Refexión de la Corresponsabilidad
La primera lectura de hoy en la Santa Escritura es del Antiguo Testamento en el libro del Eclesiastico. A veces, este libro de la Biblia tambien se ha llamado la sabidurıa del Eclesiastico. Al igual que en Proverbios, Eclesiastico es una serie de ensenanzas registrados entre 200 y 175 antes de Cristo. El primer verso de esta lectura capta uno de los elementos clave de la Corre-sponsabilidad. Dice: "Hijo mıo, conduce tus asuntos con humildad, y se te querra mas que a un dador de dones." La pala-bra "humildad" signi ica literalmente "de la tierra" o en una frase que podrıa signi icar mas para nosotros "abajo a la tierra." El buen administrador se da cuenta de que el o ella recibe todo de un Dios amoroso y generoso. Eso puede ser un reconocimiento humilde. "La verdadera humildad no es pensar menos en sı mismo; es pensar en sı mis-mo menos ", es como el eminente autor y teologo C.S. Lewis pone. Somos im-portantes a los ojos de Dios. Jesus se despojo a sı mismo en nuestro nombre. Se encarno en humildad. Lavo los pies de sus apostoles, viene a nosotros en cada misa en el pan y el vino comun. Si ponemos en practica y buscamos la corresponsabilidad como una forma de vida, elegimos que los demas sean mas importantes; nosotros no estamos con-trolando; apoyamos a otros de maneras silenciosas. ¿Estas dispuesto a dejar que Dios tome control de tu vida? Ser un administrador signi ica eso. Ese es el mensaje del Eclesiastico, y es un men-saje que nos dio Jesus una y otra vez. Para mas re lexiones e informacion so-bre la corresponsabilidad visite http://www.thecatholicsteward.com/
Humility isn’t thinking less of yourself but thinking of yourself less.
C. S. Lewis
Women’s Study Group Fall Class Schedule All classes are eight weeks and take place in McGowan Hall. Register online at www.endowgroups.org.
Tuesdays beginning September 13, 8:30am - 10:30am "Letter to Women" by St. Pope John Paul II. Contact Maria Younker at 619-992-4337 or Kathy Eisele at 933-8019.
Wednesdays beginning September 14, 9:30am - 11:30am Salvi ici Doloris" (On the Christian Meaning of Suffering.) Contact Kathy Eisele at 933-8019 or [email protected].
Wednesdays beginning September 14, 7pm - 9pm "Letter to Women" by St. Pope John Paul II. Contact Tamara Martin at 374-1050.
Chaplet of Divine Mercy September 2 at 3pm in the church
"On leaving the earth, O Lord, You wanted to stay with us, and so You left us Yourself in the Sacrament of the Al-tar, and You opened wide Your mercy to us. There is no misery that could exhaust You; You have called us all to this fountain of love, to this spring of God's compassion. Here is the taber-nacle of Your mercy, here is the remedy for all our ills. To You, O living Spring of Mercy, all souls are drawn."
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August 29: School resumes
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Nurture. Encourage. Empower. Transitional Kindergarten (TK), teacher-student ratio of 9:1, and Kindergarten through 8th grade, teacher-student ratio of 18:1. If you are considering an excellent Catholic school educational experience for your child in a family-oriented community, with small class sizes, that meets the needs of the whole-child, please contact Kris Windes, [email protected] or 492-7320 and learn more about our implementation of 21st Century Learning opportunities. Check out our school website: www.olfschool.net
HUMILDAD Admiro mucho al Santo Padre Francisco, por su humildad. A pesar de que es el maximo lıder de la Iglesia Catolica en el mundo y de que podrıa vivir como un rey, vive de una manera muy sencilla. La suite en el vaticano donde han vivido los papas por siglos fue dejada por el Papa Francisco que se mudo a la casa de huespedes de Santa Marta, lugar donde se hospedan los cardenales, obispos y
sacerdotes que visitan el Vaticano. Diariamente celebra y comparte los alimentos en el comedor con estos visitantes. Con estas acciones nos demuestra que uno puede vivir sencillamente y ser feliz. Esta humildad se la imita a Jesucristo que era manso y humilde de corazon. A pesar de tener muchos empleados domesticos, asistentes y guardias suizos que lo protegen, el Papa nos ensena la virtud de la humildad. El mundo nos ensena que para ser felices, debemos de ser los primeros en todo lo que hacemos y que debemos de tener lo mejor que el mundo ofrece. Pero el Papa Francisco nos ensena que el mundo esta equivocado, que la sencillez y humildad son virtudes que debemos de cultivar, imitando a Jesucristo que era el Siervo humilde, a pesar de que era y es el Hijo de Dios. ¡Dios los bendiga a todos! Padre Sal
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Pro-Life Prayer Vigil September 3, 10am - 11am / Corner of La Paz & Chrisanta near Planned Parenthood, Mission Viejo
Join Catholics from throughout the diocese to witness for life and pray the Rosary to end abortion in our country. Bring a rosary, sunblock, water, sun hat, and chair if needed. Help build a culture of life as you shine your light. Matt 25:40 ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’ Who is more the least of these than the unborn?