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• S7:vlO!CER. Paul D081111766Jefferson CountySheriffs Department100Jefferson County ParkwayGOlden, CO 80204303·271-5688
On 042099 at 1300 hours, I received a call at my residence from Dispatcher RAINEY of the Wheat Ridge PoliceDepartment advising Lt. CHISM was requesting me to respondto Clements Park. ~"EY advised I was needed as par:of the Jefferson CountyCritical Incident Team.
I responded to Clements Parkand spoke to Lt. CHISM andCom GRAlNGER. 1was advised of the shooting at ColumbineHigh School(6:01 S. Pierce St.),
At 1630 hours, I was assigned to a team of investigators who would be responsible for the interviews of officers whcdischarged theirweapons The teamassembled in a classroom at LeawoodElementary (6555 W Leawood Dr).
I was assigned to interview Deputy Paul SMOKER. The interview was taped. SMOKER provided the following;. .......rmaucn;
i 02:288.signed to Motcrcycle Patrol.
• Carrying a GlockModel 17 (9=) semi-automatic- Serial i;l LN453 .• Fired 3 to 5 shots.- Is unsure ifhe hit the suspect.See transcript of interviewThe interruptions in the interview are from the intercom system in the school.S7:vIOKER's weaponwas secured by Jefferson County Sher'Jfs's Department Deputies.
On iJ4: 199, I gave the audio tape to Judy StiLLIVAl'l (Chiefs secretary) to be transcribed.
On 042199, 1reviewed the transcript. I delivered the transcript andoriginal tape to COOL GRAINGERat ArvadaP D
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JEFFERSON COUNTY SHOOT TEAJ.':1
OOERvn:W AT LEAWOOD ELEMENTARYSCHOOL6555 W. LEAWOOD DR, LITrLETON, CO 80123
DATE: 042099 • APPROXIMATELY 5:00 PM!J'....rERvn:wn: OmCl!R KEVIN ARI'IISTRONG, W ll.l' D; JEFF<:OSHOOT TEA,"'fINTERVIEWEE: DEPUTY PAULSMOKER, JEmRS91'f COUNTYSHERIFF'S DEPT
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RE; INCIDENT AT COLllMBINE HIGH SCHOOL· 6lat S, l'IERi;;'$I', Ll1'TLll.TON,CO 80123
K.,;" PAUL. COL1.D YOU STATE YOCRFt1.L NA..vIE FOR:'.'IE PLEASEry
PS: PAUL ROBERT SMOKER.
K...., YOUR DATE 0 F BIRTR. PLE:\SP
zs. NOVEIvlBER 17,1966.
K.;" 'WHAT DEPARTMENT DO YOU WORK FOR?
PS, JEFFERSON COl.iNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
KA: "liREN DID YOU START WITH THE POLICE DEPARTIvIENT • AT JEFFCO, I'MSORRY?
PS: IT WAS JA.."lu......NO· FEBRUARY 22, 1988
K....: 22'"' • CORRECT?
PS: CORRECT.
K..\.: OKAY. WHAT IS YOiJ"R Cl.TRRENT ASSIGN?vIENT A..'ID HOW LONG HAVE VOr:BEEN WITH THIS ASSIGNME1'IT?
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PS, I A..v! P:\RT OF PATROL· WE'RE CALLED DIRECTED OPERATIONS uNT, DOC,AL'.;'D I .~'v[ A MOTOR OFFICER. I HAVE BEEN CURRENTLV AT THISASSIGN1\!ENT ABOLl THELAST TWO YEARS.
K...., 'WHAT OTHER. ASSIG1\'MENTS A..'ID DUTIES DOYOU· HAVE YOU HAD?
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PS: I WAS ON PATROL FROM TIlE BEGINNING OF NIT CAREER FORAPPROX!MATELvrrvs YEARS; IOlDTHREE YEARS INNARCOTICS,ASSIGNEDTO DEATASK FORCE; At"ID THEN I CAJvlE BACKTOPATROt.
K.-\; THE CTJRRENT ASSIGN1vlENT THAT YOU ARE IN, WHICH IS TIlE MOTOROFFICER FORTHE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTIvrENT, HAVEYOURECEIVED At'N SPECIAL TRA.lNlNG?
PS: WELL, YES, ESPECLAJ.LY ASA MOTOR OfFICER., I AtYl A MOTOR INSTRUCTOR.I A.Yl ,AJ.SO A R..l,DAR INSTRUCTOR., FIREAR."lS INSTRUCTOR....
K.-\; HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEENA FIREAR.'vl$ INSTRUCTOR?
ps: trHlvL...IBELlEv"E ITS BEEN ABOllTFIVE OR SIX YEA.RS.
K."'-: HAVE YOU WORKED WITH .""-"OY OTHER DEPARThlENT BESIDES JEFFERSONCOUNTY?
PS: NO, I HAVEN'T.
K.-\: DID YOU USE OR DlD YOU HAVE SPECIAL TRAINING AS A FIREAR..YlSINSTRUCTOR?
ps: YES.
K."'-: At,,'D WHAT WAS THAT? COliLD YOU GIVE lvlE THE DATES AND TIMES OFTHATPLEASE?
ps: YEAH....ROUGHLYFIVE YEARS AGO,SO L'H...THATWmJW HA'v'EBEENIN'93I GUESS......·93 • '94 SOlvlETHING TOTIL T EFFECT,
K.....: OK.".Y. A:"'I""D WHAT ARE YO'U"R RESPONSIBILITIES AS A FIREAR.'v!SINSTRUCTOR?
PS: Ufu'vL..J TEACH STUDENTS AS WELL AS CHECK WEAPONS, CONDUCT INSERVICE TRA1NlNG FOR FIREAR.'vlS; STILL HAVB TO QUALIFY ONCE AQUARTER., MYSELF. THAT'S BASICALLYIT.
K."-.: OK....Y \ilRAT ASSIGNMENT ARE YOU ONRIGHT NOW?
PS: 'N"E ARE ESSENTIALLY ON A DAY SHIFT; \lIE RUN 0630 TO 1630 TtJESDAY
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THROUGH FRIDAY,
K..A,: OKAY AND WHAT WAS YOURPREVlOUS DAYTHAT YOU WORKED THEN?
PS: TIiAT WOULD HAVE BEEN"..ACTUALLY, I WAS OFF LAST FRIDAY, SO Th"ELAST DAY I WORKED W.'I15 THURSDAY, A1'ID I DON'TRElYIEMBER TIlE DATE,
KA: OK..A,Y, A1'ID THAT WAS A NORlvIAl SHIFT FOR YOU TI:lEN?
rs. YES IT WAS.
KA: SO THIS WOULD BE YOliR FIRST DAY ON,CORRECT?
ss. CORRECT,
K..>.: OKAy, VlHEN WAS TIlE LAST m..-LE YOU ATE?
ps: f..,"H1vL...I HAD SOME BREAKF.'I15T RIGHT ABOI:T...OH I BELIEVE IT W,>.S 0730,
K..>': OKAY, A.'-<'D \\iHERE DID YOU EATTHAT" AT HOlVlE?
PS: UH,NO,ACTUALLY I ATEAT HEADQI:AR.TERS TODAY
KA: OR, OKAY, A1'ID WHAT DID YOU EAT?
PS: I HAD SOME CA.'.IADL\.;.'\f BACON AND SOlvLE CHEESE. I THIN'K IT WASPROVOLONE.
K.",: OK.A,Y, A.'\fD "''HAT DID YOU DRTI-<'K?
PS t"-H".l HAD }10THING FORBREAKFAST TO DRTI-<1<..
K.>.: HAVB YOU CONSI.JlvLED A.'<'Y ALCOHOL INTIlE LAST 24 HOURS?
PS: NO.
K..>': HAVB YOU TA.'<EN A.'\fY DRUGS OR);LEDICA.TION INTHE LAST 24 HOli'RS?
PS~ NO.
K.....: HOW MUCH SLEEP DlD YOU RECEIVE LAST NIGHT BEFORE COMING TOWORK?
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PS, OH, ATLEAST EIGHT A1\1D A HALF TO NINE HOURS.
KA' WHAT IDIE OlD YOU GOTO BED LAST NIGHT?
PS, UHM....I TIllNK IT WAS 9:30 -!viA¥BE 10:00.
KA.: A1'ID HOWLONG WERE you ONDl.,TY PRIOR TOTHE SHOOTING?
PS, SINCE 0630 THIS MOR.\IlNG.
KA.: A1\ID WHAT IDlE OlD YOU GETTHE CALL FROMTHE SHOOTING?
PS YOU I01OW, I C..,N'T REMEMBER....r WAS JUST CLE.A..RING A TRAFFIC STOPWHEN THEY AlRED IT....A1'lD I CA,,\I'T REwlElv£BER THEThvlE.
K-\: W}J.AT K.:.1'>'D OF CALLS DID YOl; HAi\rDLE PRIORTOTHIS lNCIDE);T?
PS. liBM....AITER CLE..\.RlNG Ol:R BRIEFING AT 0630, I HAD A SPECL..IJ.ASSIGNlYlENT. THEY 'HAD SOJ<..IE TYPE OF BRE.A.KFAST AT JEFFERSON COUrlTYFAIRGROUN'DS \V1UCH I PROVIDED TR.>.FFIC CONTROL FOR BASICALLY A1""HOliR. AFTER THAT I '(,lENT BACK TO HEADQUARTERS ."'-\ID TOOKCARE OFSOME P.A.PER ITElvIS; LEFTTHERE. RODE DOWNHERE, SOUTH, ANDDlJRINGTHAT IDrE 1 DlD ABOUT MAYBE SITE SELECTIONS OF TRAFFICENFORCElvlENT.
KA: A,,"IY TR..l"IJi),L.l"TIC CALLS THAT YOU HAD PRIORTOTHIS?
PS, NO, .IlJST SPEEDING TICKETS.
KA: Al\l¥ PROBLEMS \V1TH rrlE PEOPLE TRA.T YOUHAD GIVEN TICKETS TO?
PS, THE LAST GlJY WAS A LITTLE UPSET AT ?vIE BEFORE I CLEARED Ac\ID W"ThTTO THE SCHOOL, BUT THERE WAS :--iOTHING OUTOf THE ORDINARY.
K,,' HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ."'-'lY FA.VllLY PROBLEMS R.ECENTLY?
PS; NO.
K.l,,; OKAY. HAVEYOl' axo .",,'IY RECE);, WORK PROBLEMS AT ALL?
PS, NO.
K.I.' DO YOU WEAR PRESCRIPTION GLASSES?
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PS: NO,
KA: DO YOUWEAR CONTACTS?
ps: NO.
KA: HA.VE YOU EXPERIENCED Al\lY RECENT iVlEDICAL PROBLEMS AT ALL?
PS: NONE
K..>,,: ANY PHYSICAL COl'!uITIONS AT THE SCENE THAT AfFECTED YotJRCONDITION AT mE TIWlE OF THE INCIDENT· 'NHET'dER IT BE WEATHER.,\\lIND, Ai"fYTHING?
PS: NO.
KA: WHAT TYPE OF WEAPON DO YOr: CARRYry
PS: I CARRY A GLOCK 17 'W'H!CH IS A 9M1{
KA: HOW LONG HA\iE YOC OW),eD THAT WEAPON?
ss. APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YE.A.RS.
K..>". ViRA.T TYPE OFTRAI),1NG DID YOC' HA.VE ONTHAT 'WeAPON?
rs. WE HAD A...J BELIEVE ITWAS A30·HOUR CDtJRSE OFIN·SERVICE TR.A.Th1NG.WE WENT FROM TR.-\i.'\lSmON TRAINING FROM OtJR REVOLVERS TO SEMI·AUTOS; SOI BELIEVE IT WAS 30 HOl"RS. Ai'\lD THEN ACOT3PLE YEARS AFTERTH.A.T I WAS A R.-\i."<GE SAFETY OFFICER AT THE FIRING RAi"<GE, A.NU THEN 1BECAivlE· WE:N"T TO A SCHOOL A.c'·m BECA.cvlE A FIREAR.vIS INSTRUCTOR,WHICH EN"TAlLED FURTHERTRAlNlNG WITHTHE Sa-IT·AUTOMATIC WEAPON,
K..>,,: OK.W, Ai'ID HOW MA,,'IY SHOTS HAvs YOU FIRED WITH THAT G1.JN •APPRO:x::l},llATELY?
PS: APPROXIMATELYI'D PROBABLY SAY FIVE THOUSAi'ID.
K.... HOWiVL-\i."!Y ROlJNDS ARE PROVIDED FOR YOUR Du"TY WEAPON'
PS: I BELIEVE FIFTY·FOllI<..
K.'\. A,.'\lD WHO PROVIDES THAT Ai\-IMUNITION?
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PS: OUR ARMORER. ROGER COX
K.....; Ai.'lD WHAT TYPE OF A.i.'vIMO'
PS: I BELIEVE IT'S AFEDER.'..L.....I·};[ ~OT EXACnY SURE.:
Ie;,.; HOW.MAi.'fY ROlWS DO YOU CARRY IN YOCR DUTY WE."J'ON?
ps: INIT! CARRY A:NlAGAZINEOF SEVE",TIEN A.i.'ID THEN ONE INTHECHA.'vtBER.
K..;,.; AND HOW :VIA.'1Y ROlJNDS ON YOl"R D1JTY BELT?
PS: UH...I THI:N1< THE WHOLE FIFTY·FOl"R.
K..:"; SO YOU C.'\RRY TWO MAGAZn-rES '#1TH YOUR DUTY WEAPON?
PS: YESlDO.
K."'.; HOW IvL...NYSHOTS OlD YOU FIRE DL"RlNG THE INCIDDiT TODAY?
PS. L'HM....ROtiGHLYTHREE TO FIVE.
K.."'.: OK.:"Y....A.i."<U \\I1L"'T CAUSED YOL- TO USE YOUR Wli:APON TODAY? WHATREASON DID YOU HAVE TO USE DEADLY PHYSICAL FORCE'
ps: I RESPO!'<1JED TO THIS SHOOTING SCENE A.i."<1J WHEN I GOT THERE IOBSERVED Nl1vlEROUS KIDS LAr1NG AROLW BLEEDING IN THE GRASSYA.."'tEA AN1J ON UIE SIDEWALK AREA OFTHE WEST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL. ASWE WERE TRYING TO GEFTHn-iGS COt-.lTROLLED, THERE WERE OTHEROFFICERS 'il/1TH ~lE_ 01'iE, SCOTT DOVORSKY, RIGHT ATTHE S",,'vl:E CARl WASAT, USING ASCOVER; A.i.'iD THERE WAS A.i.'iOTHER OFFICER WITHA SECURITYPERSON FROM THE SCHOOL ITSELF, DEPUTY GARDNER. BEING THESCHOOLRESOURCE OFFICER FOR THE SCHOOL, WAS ABOlJT ONE HUNDRED FEETAWAY FROM /vlE, USING A CAR. AS A COVER IN THE PARKING LOT.UH....rriERE WAS LO\.>1J BA..'iGS, BOOMS, GGNSHOTS, BOMBS GOING OFF INTHE SCHOOL, );!AKlNG UNBELIEVABLE NOISE. KIDS WERE RUNNINGEVERYWHERE, SCREA,'vlING. WE WERE ADVISED THAT THERE WERE TWO •AT LEAST TWO • SUSPECTS INTHE SCHOOL TF.AT WERE SHOOTING THESEKIDS, A.l'lD sttOOTING AT Ac'iYTHING THEY COULD A.'ID TIL.'-O'#1NG HA..'iDGRENADES· INSOME KID'SWORDS· AS THEY WERE RtjNNING OUT TO US,WE'y,'ERE TRYlNG TO GET A.i.'1Y INTEL P.-<'FORJ.\ilATION WE COULD FROM THEM,DL"RlNG THAT TIME. I DON'T K..'iOW THE EXACT TIME LAPSE, IT SEEZvlEDFA1RLY QU1CK; OFFICER GARDNER YELLED OUT..."TIrERE'S ONE OF THEM,
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HE'S ATTHE DOOR"! A..'ID THERE WAS A DOOR KIND OFJUST A LITTLE BITOFF TOwlY LEFT...rr WAS LIKE BIGFOURDOORS THROlJGH .;'.N AlRLOCK, ANDAS I LOOKED, I SAW A PERSON STA..'lDING....lT LOOKED LIKE A lvL-'l.LE IN ADARK JACKET, STA..'lDING AT AWINDOW THAT HAD BEEN BROKEN OUTORSHOT OUT - SH.'"TIERED- A)iD A RIFLE STICKING OUT...A BLACK COLORBARREL RIFLE STICKING OCT. ABOUT TH.'-\T TUvlE, THERE WAS A CDtJPLERor..rNDS FIRED FROM TRAT RIFLE. OTHER OFFICERS, I BELIEVE DEP\JTYGARDI\jER STARTED TO FIRE, NOTK?'O"-lNG\\!HERE THESE ROUNDS ';\lERECOlVlING AT lYlE, IF I CO\;1..D SEE HI;,l OR IF HE COULD SEE filE, PLUS THEDA..'iGER TO THE OTHER OFFICERS A..'ID THE KIDS THAT WERE IN THE!MIv[EDlATE AREA. I FIRED THREE TO FIVE ROUNDS, NtTMBER ONETO STOPTHE FIRING FROM THE SUSPECT .-\.."'''0 PROTECT ANYBODYTHAT WAS THERE.AFTER THOSE THREE TO FIV'E ROL1-iDS THAT I SHOT, THE SUSPECTDISAPPEARED BACKINTO THE BllLDING.
K..>,,: C,""'-'" YOl' DESCRlBE HOW YOC RECEI\I'ED THIS CAlL Ii'<lTIAlLY:
ps: I C",...YT. (':,,[ SORRY IF I \H:-.iTA LITTLE TOO QCICK I WAS AT A TRAFFICSTOP ,"-T WEST BOW1..ES AVB-.l:.:'E AND SOL'TH PIERCE STREET JUSTTO THE'W"ESL..I H.m STOPPED A Gr..:y FOR SPEEDI)iG...1 WAS SHOOTl)iG FlFTEE:-.iOVER TH.-\T DAY, SO HE WAS DOl)iG CPWARDS OF FIFTH" yCPH OVER. ISTOPPED HIM, GETTl)iG HIS Ii'<'FOR:vL'l.TION, BACK TO THE BIKE, I HEARONTHER.mlO- OUR PRll\.L~YCHAN·i,iEI.. AFTER I CALLED OUT MYSTOP,TH.;,.TTHEY \It"ERE DISPATCHING O!'<"E OF THE DISTRICT CARS TO THE AREA OFCOLUiMBIi'<'E HIGH SCHOOL BACK LOT TO CHECK ON A PERSON DOWN- AWOIYL'l.N DOWN...NOTlvlUCH OTHER ll';'FOR.\'(ATION FROM rdERE. AT TIiATTIME, THAT c.~ WAS l)i ROLlE, I TOLD OCR DISPATCHER TH.AT HEY, I'MGOi:;"NA CLEAR THIS STOP .-\..'\;D THEN I'LL HE.m OVER THERE ,,\;"'''0 CHECK IT.AS I W.-'l.LKED UP TO GIVE THE GE:-.iTLE:.L.....'" HIS TICKET, AS I MENTIONEDEARLIER. HE WAS NOT RE.-'I.L HAPPy V,,1TH :VIE, BCT I GAVE HTIvl HISTICKETA.."''D WAS GETIlNG HI:VI ON HIS WAY, W'l:!E:-.i Ov"ER,YlY PORTABLE R.4,.DIO, IHEARD THE SCHOOL RESOL'RCE OFFICER., ONE NEAl GARDl'i"ER, SAY IRATTHERE WAS SHOTS BEING FIRED, fu'm rarv !'!'EED HELP AT HlE SCHOOLAND THERE WAS MORE PEOPLE DOWN. A."'''O I'M ROGGHLY EIGHT BLOCKSAWAY FROM THE SCHOOL..."""'']) I BEllE'lL IT WAS IN THE SOUTHWESTLaT.-.SO I GOT ON ",lY BIKE A:'-iD RODE OVER TOCLE:'[E:-.iL..I DECIDED TORIDE THROUGH CLEMENT PARK. \VHICHIS ADJACB-.'T,IT BCTTS RIGHTCPTOTHE SCHOOL PROPERTY TO COME THROUGH THE...HEADED SOL'TH...FROMTHE NORTH DIRECTION TH.'l.T I WAS...GOING SOUTH BY THE BAlLFIELDSWHICH I K......."EW wortn Dl1vlP /v[E OUT RIGHT BEHIND THE SCHOOL. SO AS IWAS RIDING OVER THERE, I HEARD LOl;']) NOISES WHICH SOL:1'I'DS UKEGUNSHOTS ORBOMBS GOlNGOFF l)i THE DIRECTION OFTHESCHOOL WHICHICONTIN\.TEDTO RlDE. EVERYBODY WAS JUMPING ONTHE AIRSAYINGTHEY
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WERE COMING. AT THAT TIME, I HEARD....! WAS RIGHT BEHIND THEFURTHEST SOUTHER.."- BALLFIELD.._"--''\iD I HEARD NE.-\1 GARDNER...YELLCODE 33 \VHICH IS OURE:VIERGE:iCY CODE FOR "OFFICER NEEDS HELP" Ai'-'""DNOw....TIl.AT HE WAS TAKEN ON FIRE. AS 1 NEARED THAT BALLFIELD, IOBSERVED A PATROL CAR WAS BEHn-iU }.IE...r MADE A DECISION TO....ITSOllNDED LIKE ITWAS \VAYOn OFCONTROL....TOLEAVE :v!Y:V10TORCYCLEWHERE IT WAS....DEPtTI SCOTT DOVORSKY WHO WAS RIDrNG BYHIMSELFASTHE DRiVER OF THIS PATROL CAR.nOLD HIM.."LET/vIE INA...'ID ViE'LL GOOVER TIlERE WITH A LmLE BIT MORE COVER THAi'l A MOTORCYCLE". ATTIlAT POC\li ,VE ALSO RUN nrro ....1 GUESS A GYM TEACHER....THAT HADHOPPED THE BALL FENCE AND 'W1O FIGURED OUT THAT HEWAS ....INTERRUPTION...... .w1O GOTfr.iTEL HEHAD WHICH W."-S NOTHING, BL"THE DESCRiBED CHAOS OF KIDS HURT, PEOPLE SHOOTlNG.....THINGS LIKETF-AT. WE LEFT Hl1'vl .-\;-'10 PROCEEDED IN THE PATROL CAR A.ROl.'NU THEBASEBALL FIELD WHICH ",\-10 FOL",U A tvl-\fl\lTENA...\fCE SHED ..A BIG....IT'SWHERE THEY KEEP THEIR SPORTS EQl1P:VIENT...}<lCE BIG Bl"'1<.ER KIl'iD OFTHING. \VE TOOK UP APOSITION THERE. FROM THERE. GETTING OCTOFTHE"v1OHICLE. IT WAS JUST CHAOS....KlDS RCi'iNlNG .-\1L OVER. THERE 'W'EREPEOPLE EXlTINGTHENORTIl E'+U OFTHE BllLDING...KlDS RL"1';1NG ..TR'11010TO Rl"N UP TO US, I SAW AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE THA.T 'W'ERE LA'r101GTHERE BLEEDING..L\.Yl}iG INTHE GRASS. KlDS Rl",,,,lNG EVERy\VHERE. ATTHAT TIME. 'W'E DECiDED \V'E ="1OEDED TO GETTHESE PEOPLE OCT OF HEREAS QlJ1CKLY AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN...THESE Bm,IBS. GL"'lSHOTS. \VHATEVERras HELL THEY VV1ORE ....'W1ORE GOING OFF, INSIDE THE Bl.!1LDING THERE ISABIG GLASS AREA WHICH IS THE CAFETER.lA. li"'UER.'lEATH ....."v.'.fD THELIBR..>.RY ON THE TOP. ASTHESE BOMBS OR GRENADES \V1ORE GOING OFF,YOU COULD SEE THE WI:::-iDOWS JUST FLEX-TNG; I:NUICATING THERE WAS ABOi'v1B GOING OFFINTHERE. SO 'W1O DECIDED TO MAKE A DECISION TO GETTHESE PEOPLE OLl AS QllCKLY AS 'W1O COl:1..D-THE ONES TH.-\.T WERELA'rlNGDOW"N, BLEEDING .-\.;';0 \VHADiOT-I HAD DEPllY DOVORSKY DRIVETHE CAR ltVTERRUPTIO:'<:....I n:SL.I HAD DEPUTY DOVORSKY DRIVE THEVEHICLE ",\-10 WERE GOING TOUSE THE VEHICLE AS COVER TO GET TO THErOTALLY INJURED PEOPLE WHO COlLDN'T MOVE ON THEIR Ow;.; Pow"ER,THERE WAS ON"E IN PARTleCLAR LAYING ocr IN THE MIDDLE OFEVERYTHING, I COliLD SEE DEPCTY GARDNER....A...'lD I EXPLAINED THIS AUTILE BILnL E.'<PlAINlTlN)'[L"CH)'IORE DETAll...HEWAS OVER INFRONTFROM 'WHERE TH..>.T Bl1'<UR WAS TO THE RIGHT, DO'W"N BEHIND ..>. ",\-1lITEBLAZER...HIDING BEHIND A WHITE BLAZER. BECAUSE OFTHE Gt'NFlRE A.'iDTHEN THE BOtvtBS GOrNG 01'1'. ws DECIDED TH.-\.T ",\-"E W10RE GOING TOEVACAS "!..-I.::-JY PEOPLE AS 'W1O CQUD...TRE MOST INJURED- THE OTHERS, WE'W"EREGOINGTOTRYTO GlVErr:lE),[ sm,IE PROTECTION. DEPlTYDOVORSKYDROVE THE CAR...! R.-\.;'l BEHDiD ITAS COVER FORRI:-'-£, 'W'E P..>.RKED THECARSlDEWAY5 RlGHT INFRONT OFTHE FIRST DOW); PERSON. AND AS \VE orD, A
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\VHOLE SLEW OF KIDS RAN OUT OF THE CAFETER1A. NtiMEROUS HADGtiNSHOTS, BLEEDING xu, OVERTHEPLACE. PROBABLY rnAT FIRST WAYEViE TOOKONAT LEASTT\VENTYKIDS. ViE GOTTHEM1..Ji'lDER COVERBEHINDOUR CAR. I COL1.D STILLSEE AT LEAST FOUROF THE KIDS CLOSERTO THEEXJT TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CAFETERIA 'NnICH ALSO GOES INTO THETEACHERS' LOUNGE·ORREAL CLOSE TOIT, LA'lING DOWN BLEEDING. A;'IDTHEYWERE J1..:ST...COl·LDWT :..rOVE...WE COlLON'T GETEMTO US...!T WASUNBELIEVABLE WHAT WAS GQf:\iGON. SO VlE FELTIT WAS SAFERTO HOLDOl'R PERlMETER...GH..•"....'lD GO FROM THERE. DCRING THAT Tli'vlE, WE w"EREGETTING 11'-iTEL FROM THE KIDS. A COUPLE OF THE STIrDENTS TOLD METHERE w"ERE TWO PEOPLE f!';'VOL YEo: 01'<'E WAS A YOt"NGER KID, KI!'<uATh'TN, WHO COCLO PASS AS A HIGHSCHOOL STUDENT. 'N"EARlNG A BLACKTRENCH COAT, HATON BACKW..>JmS. THE OUIER KID WAS A T."'-lLER, SIXFOOT KID ' LIKE BIG KID...WEIGHED TWO m:?,iDRED POl'NDS. A UTTLE BITOLDER. AGAIN. BLACK TYPE TRENCH COAT. THEKIDS DESCR.113ED THE:Vl ASHAJ.'lD GRENADES. SHOTGL"NS, SOME TYPE OF CZI OR Al'TOiVLe\TIC'N'EAPONS.....A,'\j'D THEY w"ERE ruST IN THERE R......'..mOML Y SHOOTINGA..'iYBODY THEY CONfROl:-<T£D AT ALL... ..LVTERRr.:PTION...,>..'iD THENGETTING INTEL FROM THE KIDS TR..I.T RADIO COM:Vlt:..iICATION WASWORKING...!.T WASN'T GREAT. H:SI BECAl'SE OF THE ST.;MBER OF PEOPLETR..I.T WERE TRYING TO f;SE IT .... 'N"ERE ABLE TO ..>JR A DESCRlPTION. THINGSLIKETHAT....."'-lSO GETBACK ..WDITIONALIT W,iSN'T Ai'iYTHING DIFFERENTTHA.'lWHAT WETHOUGHT WE."'-lRE.WY K..'1EW I WAS INCOtv11VIT.:'N1CATIONW1TH DEPUTY G,ARQNER TO :¥rY RlGHT BY YELLING BACK..","""u FORTH. 'N'EeOl'LD HEAR EACH OTHER FAIRLY W"ELL. HE AGA1N TOLD lYlE.....INTERRUPTION.. AS I WAS :¥IDiTIONlNG W1TH DEPeTY GARDNER· W"ECO\.;1.D YELL BACK ......xo FORTH. HETOLD METHEDESCRlPTION OFTHEKIDS.REITERATED THE DARKJACKETS, AliTOMATIC W"EAPONS. THE ,VHOLEII:\-lETtIESE BOMBS ARE GOING OFF, ..ic.'!D GL"NSHOTS BECAUSE THE WINDOWSWERE SHATTERlNG ALONG THE CAFETERlA....I.VTERRL"PTION.....SO.w'E'RE...BASIC."'-lLY wt lOiOW FOR A PRETTY M!;CH FACT TR-I.T WE GOTTWO SUSPECTS. LOADED FOR BEAR, AUTO/vl""TIC WEAPONS, LONG RlFLES,ATLEAST SHOTGL"NS, SOMETIIDiG TOTHAT EFFECT. LONG BARRELED GeNS.'N'EARmG DAR.'<. CLOTHDiG, B."'-lL CAPS. DEPl.rry GARDNER ",rE"''TIONEDTHAT HE THOUGHT THEY W'ERE WEAlIDiO FLACK JACKETS....DARK FLACKJACKETS....BECAUSE OF THEBl1.K ATTHATTIIYlE. ws ARE STILL EVAC INOKIDS....GETTINO THE),I on OF THERE. WOl"NDED FIRST, FOLLQI,VED BYTh'EREST. AT THA.T TIME. DEPCTYGARDt--iER YELLS ~THERE HE IS......A..'<O HE'SPOf:\iTING RlOHTTOTHE DOOR. ,\-nICHIS ALITTLE BITTO W{ LEFT. I H.W TOLOOK OVER THE CROSS OF THE HOOD OF THE PATROLO.R....l,VTERRC'PTIOi'L.AS I WAS EXPL.>JNING, HE....NEAL YELLED "THEREHEIS......THE DOORS...!T WA.S A FOGR·W."-Y YOU K'iO\V. :VIAIN EXITDOOR....ENTR.....'iCEJEXJT DOOR...KW FOl'R DOORS. THEY W'ERE MET.-\L.
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JC·001-008111
SILVER DOORS 1N1TH GLASS IN THE UPPER HALF WHICH WOULD BE ABOVEYOUR TORSO. ONE OFTHOSE WThiDO',iS IN PARTICULAR, THE THIRD DOORFROM YOlJR LEFT GOING RlGHT, WAS BROKEN OUT... THE GLASS WASBROKEN QUT....FROM SHOTS OR A BOMB OR w'RATEVER HAD BROKEN ITocr, strr IT WAS BROKEN OUT. AS HE'S YEl.LIN' THERE IT IS, I LOOK, I SEEA Gn STA,'lDING THERE...LOOKED LIKE A WHITE ~LA.L.E WEARING BLACK,PROBABLY A BALL CAP ..YOU COuLD:vIAKE OUT HIS WHITE FACE ."",,,,"0 THETHING THAT REALLY GOTMY ATIENTION W.-\S A BLACK BARREL OF SOMETYPE· A LONG GuN COMING STR."JGHT OUT SD-ILLTA,'iEOUSLY AS I'MLOOKING,IHEARO'N'E SHOT.lHEAR ,,,","fOTHERSHOT, AND rr WAS ~OT FROMA H"'-''lDGtjN; IT WAS EXTREMELY LO\.:'D. THERE w'ERE P(;LSES....BOOM!BEING IN TIL'"T SITUATION YOU~K YOU CA.'! EVEN FEEL THOSE...I DON'T!C'lOW,i\!lAYBE !DID. ATTH.-\T TIME, 1DlDN'TEVEN HAVE TIME TOLOOKATDEPt.'TY GARDNER. THE BARREL APPEARED TO BE POINTING IN MYDIRECTION OR DEPLTI' GARDNER'S DIRECTION WITH TWO ROl;'NDS OFF, [REThl,NED FIRE, FlRlNG THREE TO FIVE SHOTS DrRECTLYINTHEDIRECTIONOFTHE PERSON THAT EMERGED 1N1TH THE LONG BARItE!. GUN. HE FIRED ATLEAST TWO. THREE MORE .-'...."'D THD WENT BACK INTO THE BCILDING. Il0!OW SOMEBODY ELSE WAS SHOOTING, [ DON'T K..'\iOW IF IT WAS DEP\.iTYGARDNER OR NOT. THERE WAS .-\ DECE1'<T EXCHA'fGE OF Gt;f BATTLETtlERE...DEFINlTEI.Y. .'HTH.-\TIDIE.lDC'CKEDBACK tfNDER THE CAR AFTERSEEING HIM DfSAPPE.-\R....I DON'T K."fOW IF I HIT HL'vr OR NOT. IT WAS APRETTY FAR SHOT. I FELT IT WAS MOST DEFfl\<lTEI.Y:N'EEDED TO BE SHOT.I STILI. HAD PEOPLE L'\.YTNG IN THE GR.>,.SS ....KIDS RUN'NING, IN DANGER.THIS PERSON POSED TO SHOOT AT !vIE OR MY P,-\RTh'ERS OR ANYBODY INTHEARE..... HAD TO CEASE RlGHT THE:N A.""0 THERE. IT WAS...THERE WAS NOQUESTION IN MY MIND THAT PERSON NEEDED TO BE STOPPED; AND THEOl'iLY WAY TO STOP HI'Yl FROM 'W'HERE I WAS WAS WITH BHLETS THEREWAS NO OTHER OPTION. THE Ot';LY OPTION WAS TO STOP fID;I AS QLKKLYAS POSSIBLE BEFORE SOlvIEONE ELSE GOT SHOT AFTER HE DISAPPEARED.EVERYBODY IN OCR AREA WAS OK.".Y.....I DlD SEE SOME.....;,."-l'D I DON'TRE:.IEMBER SEEING THEM ....BEfORE WHEN [ \VAS TALKING TO DEPutYGA.ttDNER, BUT I DO RE!v[E),lBER SEEING TWO BULET ROUNDS IN THEINTh'DSHIELD OFTHE WHITE BLAZER HE WAS HIDING BEHIND. SO I ASSl.'METHOSE ROt'NDS CAME FROM THE LONG Gt'N SHOOTER THAT H.-\D JCSTOPENED FIRE ON US, AFTER EVERYBODY WAS OK.'\.Y, WE EVAC'D SOMEMORE KIDS...AGAIN· BOMBS ARE GOrNG OFF...WI>iDO\VS AREBREA.KING...ROCNDS ARE GETTING SHOT OCT BECACSE OL.IN MYDETER.'vrINAnON INTh'DOWS WEREBREAK1NG....LIKE ROl:'NDS WERE COMINGOUT CAt;SE IN'E WEREYT SHOOTING. A.BOUT THIS T1'vIE DENv'ER POUCEo EPART:vIE:--iT, i\IEi\fBERS FROM THE;"'1 SHO\V l'P.....AFTER WE GOT THECOM:'vfl'NICATIONS WORKED on, THEY TOOK l'P SOME POSITIONS 1N1THTHEIR CARS BEHIND DEPI,;TY DOVORSKY AND L THEY ALSO EVACD ....I
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JC· 001-008112
DON'TK.'lOW HOWMA.'lY KIDS.....CAUSE TIiEY rUST KEPT corvlINGOUTTHATDOOR....CONlING OCTTHAT DOOR., SO WE WERE ABLE TOGETTHEM BEHINDCOVER At'lD EVAC THEM AS QL1CKL Y AS POSSIBLE. I BELIEVE IT WASOFFICER ROMERO HAD Al'lMIL.HE CAl'vlE UP TOHELP US OUT. AL'lOTHEROFFICER WITH Al'l AUT01:vL-I.TIC 'N'EAPON ANTI SWAT GEAR AL'lD AL'lOTHERot...y BEHlND HIM WITH AUTO!vL-\.TIC WEAPON, FROM DPD, TOOK UP AposmON....CAUSE WEWERE TR"'tThG TO GETTa THE WOtTNTIED IDESCRIBEDLAYl.'NG ON THE SIDEWALK...\\11ICH WERE WE BELlEv'ED FOUR OR FMPEOPLE. THEY iJ.I'ERE BAD, BAD SHAPE....\"11...WITHOUT wIEDrCAL ATTEf.,TIQN,THEY W01..iLDN'T HAVE LASTED 'lEY LONG AT ALL. SO, BASICALLY, ViEHAD APLAi.'l, WE GOTTWO AlvIBl"LANCESTO COIYlE IN. WEPROVIDED COVERFOR rss A.'vlB1.;L<\J.'lCES. ROlVIERO "\,,,TI I FROM DENVER.......
K.-\; LET ",IE CLARIFY.....OfFICER ROMERO WAS FROM DENVER POLICEDEPARThlENT?
rs. YES.
K.-\.: OK..>"Y, GO AHEAD. I'M SaRIW.
PS, YES. OFFICERROIYlERO A.';TI [ASSISTED THE TWO GUYS FROM THE DPD...THESWAT GUYS MTHTHElRAUTO W'EAPONS.mIN GETTING THESEKlDS on. so.BASICALL'l WHAT iJ.I'E DID ISiJ.I'E RUSHED THE BL1LDING...ONTHEW'EST SIDETHERE.mWHICHIS ABIG BRICKW.-\LLBEFORE ITSTEPS DOWN TOTHEGLASSLIBR.-\RY 'WHICH I SPOKE OF...iJ.I'E PROVIDED COVER FORTHE A:,cvIBUL.<\J.'!CEDRIVERS WHO DID A.'I tTN""BELIEVABLE JOB, .""'\(0 IT GOT UGLY FORTHEM...A,'-iTI I'LLEXPLA."N'. THEY BROUGHT THElRAlVlBULAi.'lCES RIGHT INTOWHERE THESE KIDS 'N'ERE....TOJLSTGET 'EM ..>,.'lD THROWTHE:Vl INHEBACKOF THE .'>"'vlBU"L.~'!CE .<\J.~TI DR.-\.G '£.,1. WE GOT, I BELlEv'E TWO OF THECHILDREN LOADED....THE WORST...I ",IE.'>"'! THEY COULDN'T TALK, THEYCOULDN·T....BARELY MOv"E. WE GOT TWO OFTHEM LOADED WHEN SHOTSCA.'vlE FROM [BELIEVE II wortn THE UPPERAREA.ABOVE THELIBRARY....ORABOVE...I'M SORRY...THE U.:NGHROOM WHICH WOU"LD BE THELlBR.,-\RY..AGAIN. ITS BIG GLASS Vo-ThTIOWS. NUMEROUS SHOTS ERtiPTED,wn'<"DOWS BREAlG.'NG. SHOTS COlvllNG AT trs, THE DENVER OFFICERSRETUR...'\iED FIRE. I WAS NOT IN A POSITION....l WAS COVERING THEA.'lBl.J1........'1CECREW...r WAS Sl,;CKED L'"P AGk'NST A WALL; I DIDN'T RETIJR..'i""'IV!'IRE AT Tau TIrvlE. [COL'LDN'! SEE .<\J.'!YTHING. THEGLASS...THE seNAT THATTIlvlE OF" DAYYOU.",EXTR.E:'IELYMlRRORED. ...PLUS THERE \VAS ANUNBELlEVABLE A.'vlOl'NT OF" SMOKE COIvlING FROM THE GLASS ARE Of THEBlJILDING. ESPECIALLY T.iNDER.~'EATH. so PRETTY IvlUCH WH.-\T 'lOC SAWWAS REFLECTION, BUITHERE W'EREROtiNDS COiVlINGOUT OFTHOSE GLASS
IIJC·001·008113
WTh'DOWS LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. THE GUY MENTIONED....ATLEAST01'l"E OF THE DENV"ER GUYS RETIiR..'<EDS01vlE SUPPRESSION FIRE-COVERFIRETO SAVE THE A,vrBL"LA.'KE GUYS. CAUSE IT WAS JUST GETffii' UGLY...FORTHOSE GUYS. THEY w"ERE RIGHT THERE RIGHT liN'DER THE \"IINDOW. WEw"ER.£ ABLE TO GET THREE OCTOF THE FOUR ORFIVE, I BELIEVE THERE \VASA FIFTH ON"E ONTB:E AROlJND....P;J ;iOT POSITIVE WHO HE WAS ....TO GETTHREE OF THE FIVE ON"E OF THE KIDS THAT 10m NOT SEE ANY LIFE INHThtL.HE WAS LAYTNG ill,mER THE STEPS ONTHE WAY UP TO THE NORTHPART OF THE PAR!aNG LOT HE H.-ill ;i0 SIGNS OF LIFE...THE PAIV.:"rEDlCCHECKED H1.'vL.RESPO!'-<'DEDTO :VIE THAT THERE w"ERE;.10 VITAL SIGNS...HEWAS DEAD ...A,'<'D LOADED liP WH.-l"THE H.-ill RlGl:ITTHERE...GOT 'By{ OUT OfTHERE INTHE A.'v{]3l"LANCE. ATTH.U TIME. ROIvrERO FROM DPD....WE SENTHIMBACK FIRST. 1BELlEVE.A."ID THEN t:H....r W"ENT...TOOKA POSITION WITHras SWAT Gl:"Y TH,H WAS GIVING SL'PPRESSlON FIRE BACK TO THE FIRSTCAR...A LlTILEBLLJE TOYOTA. ORSOMETHlNG...IRESPONDED BACK \v1THHDt{CAUSE W"E HEARD MORE KIDS 1N THERE SCREA..'vITNG A>iD WH.",DiOT. 'W"Ec..\u'vlE BACK TO TH..l,.LHELD THE POSITION FOR HARDtY ANY LENGTH OFTIME. CAUSE ws W."..'\iTED BACK on OF THERE WHE>i sosrs ylORE KIDSC."..vlE OI.:T OF THE L1JNCHROOM DOOR. WE HAD ATLEAST EIGHT-TEN KIDSCOIvtE BEHTI-<'D us, BEHIND TH.-\T BLl"E TOYOTA l"?'iTIL ws c."..'vrE UP 'W1TH APL"..'iTO EVAC THEyL Dl'Rl>iG THE WHOLE Tl.ME AG,'J?-iIHESED",,"'vINBOMBSARE GOING OFF. ITW.>.:S ."..LITILE Q'CTETER, THEYW"ERE :vrORE RA:JDOM.BlJTTHEY WERE STILL GOI>iG OFF I>iSIDE THE BUILDING. I SAY THEY WEREBOMBS JUST BECAUSE OF THELDu'D REPORT THEY H..>"D. W"E FI>iALLY GOTTHEKIDS .. AGAIN. THESE POOR KlDS OlDN'TK..'\iOW MUCH ABOUT WHAIWASGOl>iG ON. strr THEY \v"ERE HID1NG, SO THEY DroN'T SEETHE Sl.'SPECTS.DIDN'TK..'\iOWWh"ERETrlEY'W"ERE. SAID THEY JUSTL1-iBELlEV:\BL YSMOKYDOWNSTAIRS IN THE CAFETERI,.l,. THEY BARELY FOL1-iD'TI-IEIR WAY OLl.W"E GOT THOSE GUYS SOME....BACK TO APOSITION.....N01'<"E OF THOSE w"EREW01.,'1';'DEDTH..l,Tl SAW \'iEGOTTHEMi3ACK TO APOSITION AT'W1'HCHTIIv[ETHE DPD OFFICER A..'\I'D I PL1.LED B•.l,CK TO ..l, F1.,'RTHER POSITION, AI WHICHTlIvrE I RE"'I.~'ED THERE I>i THE rN~iER, PERI1¥lETER TILL....r DON'T EV1E>iK'\iOW HOW LONG....TI!. 4:30 OR SOMETHING. DURING TH.U TlIvlE 'W"E....STlLLKlDS COM1NG OULKlDS COl\-IING OULSWAT TEAMS GET THEREA"<'D ",lOL"?'iITD A.'i .-\SSAt1.T TOTH.",T DOOR 1WAS SPE..>J(lNG OF·THEDOORTO THE LliNCHROOM· BRINGING PEOPLE OUT TO US ON THE n-.;';ER·PERn.lETER. THERE WAS A.....AfTER WE GOT A BU>iCH OF PEOPLE OlT.THERE WAS A GUY STUCK LOP 1>i THE LIBRARY w1TH ONE OF THE BROKE-::-iWTh'DOWS•..\u"';'D HE STIXKHISH:\~DOlT ..HE·S BLEEDI>iG ALL OVER..>".'''D HEPOPPED HIS HEAD OCT..'W"E TRlED TO GET HIyI TO COME DOw;'; TO THESAFETY AREA OF THE SWAT GL"YS WHO W"ERE GOING TO LEAP OFF THEROOF SO"'lE OF THE SWAT TEA.:"I TRU WAS USING THEAR.'v!ORED CARONTHESOUTHSIDEOFTHE Bl1LD1NG GOT THAT ,.I"R.'v[ORED CARTO DRIVE OVER
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JC·001.008114
IN FRONT OF THIS WINDOW A1\lD TWO SWAT GUYS GOT UP A1\lD THIS KIDJ(J~,!PED TO 'EM. HE WAS IN POOR SHAPE. THEY RETREATED...AGAIN, WEHELD THE INNER-PERIMETERUNTIL EVERYTHlNG WAS CLEAR. DURING1HATT',r,lE I DISCOVERED A PIPEBOlvlB WHICH WAS...UHM...FROMTHETOYOTA ITWAS THREE P.4,RKING SPACES AWAy....THERE WAS ABLANKSPOTOR ONEORrwo....A1";'D THEN THERE WAS AGREENSTN,A1\lD ONE OFTHE PIPEBOMBSa...IOBSERVED...A SILVER PIPE BOMB...OBVIOUSLY FROM TF.E SUSPECTS. ITAPPEARED TIL,,-T ONE OF THE BiD CAPSULES WERE OFF, BUT I DON'TK},lQW....WE RETREATED FURTHER BACK DURlNGTHAT Th'vlE..,A1\lD I'M JUSTG1VlNG YOUSOlvlE OFMY OBSERVATIONS NOW.....A1'.'D THERE WAS A1'iOT:..J:ERPIPE BOwlB TILU EXPLODED BETWEEN THE ROWS OF CARS THAT LEFT ADETONATION ;."r.....1?K ON T'dE CONCRETE - THE ASPHALT ITSELF· WITHONEOF THE B1'DS DOWN HERE A.\lD IT WAS PROBABLY A1'i INCH PIPE BY SIX:INCHES LONG. A.'iOTHER CAP HERE A1'iD WE FOUND "'u'iOTHER PIPESOlvlEVlHERE INBETWEEN THOSE.
KA: rust TO CLARlFY...THESE ARE GAl v .....'\;lZED PIPE?
PS; CORRECT.
K.-\.: NOT PVC?
PS: NO, GAlVA.'IlZED. EVERYTHING THAT I SAW WAS HEAVY DUTYGAlVlu'fIZED. THE SILVER O'N"E I SPOKE OF WAS PROBABLY THREEINCH....THREE A1'iD A HALF INCH DlA1vlETER lvlETAL END SCREWED OFF......HELD PERI!V1ETER tl'N"TIL RELIEFED...."W"E STILL EVAC'D 01,;"T ATLE..I"SLOHmTWO, TWO HtJNDRED FIFTY KlDS DURING THAT TIME, WHILE IWAS ONTHE PERIlvlETER AFTER SWAT GOTIN.
1<..-\: OI<..A.Y, tzrs GO BACK TO YOl'R SHOOTING INCIDENT. HOW FAR AWAYWERE YOU FROM THE SUSPECT?
ss. L'HM....lN MYESTIMATION, PROBABLY BETWO, TWO Hl"NDRED FIFTY FEET.
1<..".: OKAY. IF YOU TAKE THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE CAFETERIA ON THEBOTIOM...ISTHATWl-IAT YOU SAL.?
PS; YES.
KA: k'l'D THEN THE LIBRARY BEING ONTHE TOPOFTHIS GLASS PORTION OFTHETHING...
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PS: YES
KA; WAS HEONmE LlBRARYSECTION ORWAS HEINTHECAFETERIA SECTION?
es. HE WOULD BE AT rss HEIGHT OF THE LIBRARY SECTION, WHICH WASBASICALLY THE SALV!E HEIGHT AS I WOULD BE AT.
KA: OK.AY. IF YOU LOOK. AT THE LIBRARY SECTION, MY UNDERSTA}lDING IS...HOW YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT, IT'S HiLLY GLASSED IN A HALF-MOONGReLE, CORRECLOK.AY IF YOl.i~RE LOOKING ATTHAT BlHLDING, WOULDHE BE ONTHERIGHT OR THELEFT?
ps: HE WOULD BE ONTHE LEFTOFTHE GLASS PORTION.
K..-\: A.J.'\j]) YOU FIRED THREETO FIVE ROCriDS0
PS: CORRECT.
K..-\: DID YOUMOW THE SUSPECT AT ..\LL?
PS. NOT AT ALL.
KA: H.-\VE YOU BEEN IN\lOLYEO IN A.o.'IY SHOOTINGS PRIORTO THIS INCIDENT?
PS. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS, BUT NEVER DISCH.-\RGED MYVlEAPON.
K..-\: INTHELfrlE OF DUTY- IS WHATI'MLOOKING AT?
ps: YES.
K..-\: OK..-\Y. WHO DID YOUTALKTO FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT?
PS. UH.....GENERAL CONVERSATION TOOFFICER ROlYLERO WITH DPD...BECAUSEVlE Vv'ERE ON THE 11'iNER-PERJ1.LETER TOGETHER. I TALKED TO NEALGARD!'<'ER JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT...SENT HIM ...AFTER CONVERSING...HEK.."IOWS THE SCHOOL THE BESL.SDl"T HIM TO THE COlYlMk'\j]) PQST SO HECOLLD HELP OIJr THE SWAT TEAJ.\LFIGl.J1tE OUTWHICH WAY TO GO. A.o.'1DTHEN DEPUTY RICKBACJ:1]v!A_'l WHO DROVE ~LE OVERHERE.
K..-\: OKAY. OlD A.o."IYBODY ELSEH.-\J.'lDLE YOlJ"R \liEAPON?
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PS: NO,NOBODY'S TOUCHED IT,
KA; NOBODY'S TOUCHED YOUR WEAPON SINCE YOUFIRED THEWEAPON ATTHISTH:D<G AT COLUMBIN~ HIGH SCHOOL?
ps: NO,
K..-\., OKAY, PAIJL, WhY DON'T 'lor; TELL ME ABOUT YOT..:'R MAGAZINES ANDSTUFF,
ps: OK.."Y. AFTER I UH...DID THE EXCHAN'GE OF GUNFIRE, BASICALLY I om ATACTICAL RELOAD, WHICH ESSENTIALLYIS TAKING THE MAGAZINE 01..)1' OFYOUR Gt'N .""'m INSERTING A FRESH NlAGAZINE, FULLY LOADED, INTO THEGUN so IF THERE WAS ....."OTHER E.,'{CHA.'lGE OF GUNFlRE, I WOu'LD HAVEMORE ROUNDS.
KA: SO T;'-{AT'S THE REASON 'lot.: DID THE TACTICAL RELOAD VlHEN YOURELOADED YOL'R WEAPON?
PS, THArSCORRECT.
KA A'iY OTHER OFFICERS NEAR YOU THAT FIRED THAT YOU K..'lOW OF FORSURE?
PS, THE ONLY....W'ELL, I KNOW DEffi'<1TELY GARDNER DID...BECAUSE OF TI-:ESOlJ'N1) CO/YllNG FROM THERE...HE WAS THE Oh'LY OFFICER THERE. SO ITHIl'iK..I WOL'LD ASSillvIE A:."'IWAY THAT HEFIRED.
K..".; A..'m TIns IS THESRO?
PS YES,
K..>,.: SENIOR RESOURCE OFFICER?
PS: CORRECT.
K..-\: ....SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER......
rs. ruERE YOU G'O.....ROMERO FROM DPD DID AS....WHEN W'E WERE EVAC'INGruOSE KIDS wrra THEPA.RAvIEDlCS...TREA,\-lB lJLAl'lCES...I K.'\lO WHEFIRED;A~D THE OTHER DEN'VER OFFICER THAT I DON'T K:'lOW \VHO HIS N,""viEIS....HEALSO FIRED.
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KA; OKAY. IS THERE Ai"IYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, PAUL?
PS; NO.
KA: AS IS STA.'IDARD PROCEDURE IN THE JEFFERSON C01:JNTY SHOOT TEA.vl, IWIll BETAKING YOUR WEAPON.
ps: OK-AI.Y.
K.~; Ai'ID WE WILL DO A 'GSR' ON YOtlR HA.'-IDS, ALSO.
ps: OK.J"Y.
K.;', nus WILL CONCLUDE THE lNTERv1EW W1TH DEPUTY PAUL SMOKER. !T ISNOWS:4-5 PM.
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TABORSKY, S.
JC- 001-008119
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SUPPLEMENT X JCSO WALKER. KEVIN 99-16Z5-ACannectingCase Report No, Vk:tlmNamA: OriiinaJR~ DateTms Repo<t
04-21·99- X FIRST DEGREE MURDER XCl_•.,~ti(m Off6Nies~ Open E;weptionaJly Cl¢vtd q RecommendCase: Review 0
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INVESTIGAnON:
On 04-20·99, at approximately 1116 hours. dispatchadvised of'a female partydown in thesouth parking' lotof Columbine High
School. It startedoriginallyas a medical call. and several seconds later, Deputy Neal Gardneradvisedthe party wasdowndue
to gunshotwounds. I responded from the areaof WestChatfield andSouth Kipling Street, utilizing my lights andsiren. While
en route, Deputy Gardner advised that he had shots coming from inside the school on the southwest comer. I arrived at
approximately 1129 hours, and responded to the southwest comer of the parkinglot. Deputy Gardner advisedhe was under
heavy fire fromthe suspects. I drove in the parkinglot andwentto thesecond or thitd row of cars on my right.and parked my
patrolcar, andexitedmy vehiclewith the shotgun. I tooka position ofcovet behind a blackToyotaa-Runner, Frominside the
school I heard approximately 40 to 50 rounds, rifle tire, and small arms tire, there were approximately six to eight smaller
explosions, and two very large explosions, one by the south double door entry which blew out two windows and caused
considerable damage. As I wasmaintaining a perimeter onthe southend, shotswerestill comingfromwithinthecafeteria area.
- everal minutes later. I had six studentsexit the southcafeteria doors, running south towards me. As they exitedthe cafeteria.
when the doorswereopen, I observeda largefireball explosion within the confinesof the cafeteria. I securedthe six students
next to me, ensuringthat they wereout of line of fire. Theywere unable to evacuateat that time.
Approximately 45 minutes later, the gunfire and explosions had been continuing sporadically throughout this time. An
ambulance, possibly from WestMetro,drove inll> the southlot. I directed themoutof the lineof fire to respondover to the far
westcomer to help remove wounded children. Another ambulance pulledintothe parking lot,and drove over to assist the first
ambulance. They parked directly in front of the cafeteriaby the steps going up to the second story, At this time. the four
paramedics exitedtheirambulances, and immediately thesecond storywindows, from whatwaslaterdetermined 10be the libnuy,
were shot out from the inside by the suspects firing, I assumed at the paramedics and officers that were downbelow. 1heard
officers thai were on the west side of the building liIcing the library, return fire. I advised dispatch we were taking fire and
returning fire. At that time,I hada clearview of the windows thatwerebeing 'hot out. I utilized my shotgun, firing tworounds
ofslugs lntothe windowdirected at the muzzleflashthe! Ibad seen from inside. Several moreshots were fired from inside, and
then everythingwas quiet.
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Fifteen minUles Or so after exchanging gunfire with the suspects, two Denver PD Officers made their way to the six kids who
were next to me. These kids were safely evacuated by these two officers.
I remainedon my position until about 1530or 1545hours, at which time Lakewood's SWAT team arrived and gave me relief.
The Lakewood SWAT team and the other SWAT teams, Denver and Jefferson County, Were all inside clearing the building.
After the southwest comer was secured. I evacuatedone more elderlywoman,apparently a faculty member, from that location
in my patrol car to the command center.
At that point, I was utilized as a bomb tech with the rest of the bombsquad, and we set up on the west side of the building to
begin dealing with the devices that had been left behind. All of the devices that were located Were safely dealt with, 1had no
part in this. ather than assisting the other bomb squads. and getting those items disposed of properly.
DISPOSITION: Open.
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Defendant, EriCk Harris Doc:ket Number'case Number'Investigator,
99-70625Greg Neal
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On April 20, 1999, at approximately 5:00 p.m. R/I interviewed DeputyKevin Walker of the Jefferson County Sheriffs Department inreference to the shooting that occurred at Columbine aigh school.Theinterview was conducted at the Leawood Elementary School.
1'./I was assisting with interviews of officers who returned fit'e(shots) at the suspects.
Prior to getting into the interview Deputy Walket' was asked the.standard interview questions· in officer related shootings.
l} When did the officer start with the department?
July 15, 1985
2) Current shift/assignment and how long there?
Dayshift/January 19993} Assignment duties
Patrol/EOD/Firearms instructor4) Any specific: training for current assignment.
Basic/Firearms and EOD special training (2yrs with EOD)5) What shift/assignment did officer previously wot'k?
June 1998 Swing south6) Where is the officer at in his work days?
3rd day7) When was officers last meal before incident, what did he eat and
drink?SBQ beef, salad and ice tea
8) Has officer consumed any alcohol in the previous 24 hrs.
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no
9) Has officer taken any drugs in the last 24 hrs?no
10) How much sleep before coming on shift.seven and three quarter hours
11) How long working shift before shooting occurred4-5 hours
12) What type of calls handled prior to incident'
one harassment call with Juveniles had no effect on him.13) Has officer experienced any recent family problems?
His brothers mother in law passed away funeral was on 041999.
14) Make sure the officer articulates his reason for using deadlyphysical force.
discussed in the written text15) Has officer experienced any recent work related problems?
no
16) Does officer normally wear prescription glasses/contacts?no
17) Has officer experienced any recent medical problems that have
been treated or untreated?none
18) Any physical conditions that were effected by weather at time of
incident?None
19) What type of duty weapon does offioer carry?
870 Remington 12 gauge shotgun.20) How long has officer owned duty weapon?
the shotgun is a optional weapon has carried the weapon on a
consistent basis for the last two weeks.
21) Training for duty weapon.at the range. instructs shotgun firearm training
22) Number of rounds provided officer for duty weapon.
4 slugs23) Number of rounds carried in duty weapon.
4 slugs24) How many shots fired during incident being investigated.
fired two rounds
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25) Does the officer know the suspect?
no
26) Has office~ been directly involved in any prior shootingincidents?
no
27) Who did officer talk to following incident?
no one remained on the perimeter
28) Who handled officers weapon since the incident and why?
nO One still in his possession
29) Officers actions following incident.
remained in his position to secure the perimeter.
After completing the "Standard Interview Questions" R/I asked Deputy
Walker if he would go through the incident starting at the time he
waS dispatched.
Deputy Walker advised that he does not recall what time he was
dispatch but the call came in as a female down in the parking lot of
Columbine High School.
Deputy Walker who was coming from Kipling and Chatfield advised that
the SRO (school resource officer) came on the air to advise of shots
being fired. The SRO advised that he was at. the southwest corner of
the school.
Deputy Walker advised that he drove to the south west corner and
took a position behind some cars in the student parking lot. Deputy
Walker advised that he grabbed his shotgun, and exited the vehicle.
When he first arrived and once outside his vehicle he heard shots
being fired from inside the school as many as 40-50 rounds. In
addition Deputy Walker also heard 6-6 explosions. One explosion took
out windows on the south entry doors.
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Deputy Walker advised that kids were running out the south doors and
heard and saw a fireball from another explosion in a lower levelroom again in the south west corner of the school.
Deputy Walker advised that he could hear small' arms rounds as wellas rifle rounds going off inside the school.
Deputy Walker advised that the windows on the 2nd floor were beingshot out by the suspects and officerS and ambulance personnel were
being shot at from the 2nd floor, which later was determined to bethe library.
Oeputy Walker, a2.Yised that he observed the muzzle flash from theshooter who was shooting at the officer in the parking lot. DeputyWalker fired two rounds with the shot gun at the window where theshooter was standing. Deputy Walker advised that he did not hit thesuspect as the suspect continued to fire. Deputy Walker further
advised that his rounds went high and is certain that the holes inthe small windows above the big windows are his rounds as they would
be consistent with a hole a slug would have created.
Deputy Walker did not fire any additional rounds as the shooting had
stoped Shortly there after.
Walker remained in his position and the only time that he moved fromthat position was when a elderly female came out who was injured.oeputy walker'placed the female in his patrol car and drove her tothe command post for medical assistance. Deputy Walker advised that
this would have occurred at approximately 4:00 p.m.
Oeputy Walkerremained there
advised that he drove back to hisfor approximately another 45 minutes.
position and
Deputy walker advised that before he informed his supervisor that hehad fired rounds he assisted the BOO units with the disposal of some
homemade bombs.
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suspect and in the drawing is the approximate location of where histwo rounds went. On the back side would be a drawing of the SChooland the location where he took position.
no further.
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ARAPAHOE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE5686 S. Court PI. • littleton, Colorado 60120-1200
PATRICK J. SULLIVAN JR" SHERIFF
April 26, 1999
AT!"Crime> AaaIysis Branch
Re:BInergmcy Gun Trace
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On April 19, 1m, I _ a fl:qII<lSt to IIle AT!" Gun Tm;lng Center WV for two CU\el'iCIKlY gun-.AllaI:hecf arecopies of the request. Asof today, we IlmlllOt re=M:d a reply. Couldyonplease look intoIbis. The weapons are;
Glad< Model 11,9mm, sin BLM995..QS
Inc Model Tech 9, 9mm, sinDIlS2!l14
Onr case numbe:t is 99-15869. I can bereacllcd at (303)195-4%6. Onr /lIx /I is (303) 194-ll721. Thankyou.
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Following vehicle has been reponed in at least two incidents where the driver hasreponedl)' approached children walking home from school and offered them rides orasked for directions.
Vehicle described as:
Orangepickuptruck. similar to a smallToyota. looksrusted,windows appear to be tinted, Colorado plates
No description of driveravailable.
BOlh in<:idents occurred in the areaof 10600E. Maplewood Drive - ArapahoeCountySheriffs patrol district 4.
Forwardany information on contactsof similar vehicles to the attention of theCrimeAnalysis Unit.. Arapahoe CountySheriff's Office,795-4965. Case 99-15216.
3. ARRESTS! DRIVE-BY SHOOTING
Subjects listed below were liken into custody follDwing a drive-by shooting in the 2800blockofE. Euclid Avenue Iunincorporated Arapahoe County) on 4-18-99. The subjectshad attended a pany at the location and had been asked to leave due to a verbalaltercation. Prior to leaving they threatened the residents and then fired a number of9mm rounds out of their vehicle as they were leaving. They returned later and firedseveral more rounds into the residence and also at three vehicles parked in front of theresidence. Several items of evidence were obtained when subjects were arrested; i.e.•Glock 9mm and a Tel:9 pistol,
Juan Jaime RasconDOB 11-07-78, Age 2014615 E. 2Z" Ave.,Aurora
SCOlt M. CampbellDOB 10-08-78. Age 201923 Biscay St. Aurora
JosephS. MorenoDOB3-23-79.Age 2016893 E.7'" Ave., Aurora
MichaelA MillardDOB 11-30-82. Age 1623608 E. Picadi11y. Aurora
Larry Joseph Russom, Ir.DOB 1-08-79.Age ZO23601 E. 26'"Ave.. Aurora
Vehicle - Red 1989MazdaMX6. CO license SBI0039
Forward any questionsor information on subjectS 10 the attention of Investigator ShaunaVolz, ArapahoeCountySheriffs Office. 795-4968. Case#99-15869.
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CaptSpence
Lt. Spears
Sgt.Beatty
Sgt. Holstein
Sgt. Linne
Sgt Reilly
Investigator. Fahlstedt
Investigator Dickson
Investigator Hodgkin
Investigator Goodman
Investigator Beichl
Investigator Isaacson
Ran temporary Command post, deployed the bomb squadand crimelab, was assistant incident commander forColumbine Memorial.
Assisted incommand post, supervised the crime lab,supervised security for Columbine Memorial.
Crimelabsupervisor on scene.
Reported to the hospital to interview victims
BombTechnician
Assisted in EOC, organized and sent teams to the hospitalsto interview victims, assisted UnitedStatesSecret Servicewith dignitary protection and security for the ColumbineMemorial Service, conducted sweeps at area schools toensure safety.
Reportedto thehospital to conduct interviews, assisted atthe scene, searched area schools to ensure their safety,provided security at the Columbine Memorial Service.
Reported to the hospital to conduct interviews, conductedfollow up interviews withassociates of the suspects,provided security at the Columbine Memorial Service
Conducted an interview over the phonewith a partywhoplaceda 911 call, searched area schools to ensure theirsafety, provided security at the Columbine Memorial.
Conducted victim interviews at area hospitals and providedsecurity at theColumbine Memorial Service.
Conducted interviews with victims, assistedin thecollection of evidence. searchedarea schools to ensure theirsafety,provided security at the Columbine MemorialService.
Conducted victim interviews, attempted to locatedassociates of the shooters, provided securityat theColumbine Memorial Service.
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InvestigatorSingleton
InvestigatorMundorf
InvestigatorMauler
InvestigatorDavis
investigatorManos
InvestigatorSwint
InvestigatorVolz
InvestigatorMerenkov
InvestigatorGee
Investigator Cover
InvestigatorMerenkov
InvestigatorRasmussen
Assisted with the searchwarrantat Kleibold's house, bombsweeps anddetonation, provided securityat the memorialservice.
Reported to the hospital in an attemptto conduct interviewswith the victims.
Reportedto thehospital in an attemptto interview victims,attempted to conduct interview at the scene,providedsecurity at theColumbine Memorial Service.
Bomb technician, provided securityat the ColumbineMemorial Service
Assisted at the scene, conducted interviews in an attempt tolocateassociates of the shooters, did intel background workon the computer, conducted a townhall meetingatArapahoe High Schoolreference the Trench Coat Mafiaand the incident at Columbine.
Provided securityat Columbine Memorial Service,didintelbackground work on possibleassociates, acted asSecretServiceliaisonfor PlD team
Did Intelbackground workon possibleassociates, providedsecurity at the Columbine Memorial Service.
Reportedto areahospitals to conductinterviews withvictims.
Conducted interviews andprovidedsecurityat theColumbine Memorial
Conducted interviews with possible associates andprovided securityat the Columbine Memorial Service.
Conducted interviews with possible associates.
Conducted interviews with victims at local hospitals,providedsecurity at the Columbine Memorial, conductedsweeps of area schoolsto ensure they were safe.
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Investigator Heaton
Investigator Smith
Conducted interviews with victims at local hospitals,conducted sweeps at local schoolsto ensure theyweresafe,provided security at the Columbine Memorial Service.
Provided security at the Columbine Memorial Service
Victim Assistance supervisor BarbAlexanderWorked on a one 00 one basiswith the family of RachelScott, made death notifications, provided assistance atseveral gatherings as well as the memorial service.
Victim Assistance Karen LongWorked on a one on one basis withthe family of'IsiahSheela, contacted victims, made deathnotifications, waspresent toprovide assistance at several gatherings as wellas the memorial service.
BrandiHubbard
CarolLevinson
GloriaStimac
Mary Schulz
Keri Werner
Al Sprigg
DianeCloyd
LauraDelong
TomAdalr
TonyGallardo
Assisted in theplanning for Columbine Memorial Service
Manned thephones on the dayof the crisis
Manned thephones on the dayof the crisis
Monitored theradioand actedas scribe
Acted as scribe
Attended lab organizational briefings, developed film andcopied video tapes.
Worked on the inside thecrimesceneteams to include thelibrary and science wing.
Worked on the inside crimesceneteams to include thelibrary andscience wing
Worked on the inside crime sceneteams to include thelibrary andscience wing.
Worked on the inside crimesceneteams to include thelibrary andscience wing.
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L.4ision DirectorPhoenix Field OivisionTI1'l..I! OFIN\IES'l1GATlON:
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T~is report will documene the interview of ~arlin Miller, an rFL and past vendor at Tannar(1"".... Snows in Denver, CO.
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On May ~, ~9~9r SAls Jeff~rl arouse and Jay Dobyns inter/iewed Marvin Miller at his placeof business as well as his residence. Also ~reaenc during the interJiew at his resideneewas his wife, Alis£ Miller.
1. On May 3 1 1999 s SA's BrouSe and Oobyns were assigned an investiga~ive lead by SpecialAgent Mareu$ Motte, That lead referenced a hank card purcnase by Mark Manes on 8/2/38fram ~gagla Enterprise~ in Westminister, CO, in the amQunt of $49~.QO. Informationprovided by Manes during previous inte~liew$ indieated thae on 8/2/98, Manes purchaseda Ineratec, Model TEe-DC', 9mm piscol, .erial number 007630$ from a possible firearm.dealer at ehe Tanner Gun Show on Qr aboue a/2/98, and that the information referencedin t~e bank eard purehase was relaeed to t~at handgun purehase,
2. A check of AT? listings pertaining to Federal Firearm. Licensees (FFL'sl in Coloradoshowed a FFL wiCh ehe business name of Eagle Enterprise, 6301 W. 44~ Ave., Wheatridqe,CO, ao033, listed to Marvin M, Miller. Additional reeords eheeks showed Marvin Millerresiding at 8860 Lamar Or" Arvada, co, 80003, telephone (303)~20-J881,
J. On May 4, 1999 s SA'S Brouse and Oobyns contacted Marvin Miller ae his business addressand interviewed him concerning nis firea~s business as well as ehe possibility of hisinvolvement related eo the 8/./98 handgun purehase by Manes, During the ~nte~;i.w,Miller advised the following, thae he has a privaee .ecuri~y type busine•• in which he~eache$ h~~dgun sa£eey and operation to various securiey fi.rms; ~hat he has had twojifferene FFL'. over the past years, but currently had only one aaeive FFL; thae hedoes noe sell a large volume of firearms and generally sell. most of hi. firearms tohis stu4ents; thac eo his recollection. he did noe think he had ever sold a Intrate~
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four years; chat during the pas~ two years he haa nQt had the capabilicy of prac~ssin9
oharge oarda relaeed eo gun sales; chac he did noc recognize cne names Brenda Miller orGhn Miller (wno in .ehe paSl: rented "ables aC ehe Tanner Gun. Show); and eha" be didnoe a"tend ehe Tanner Gun Show, nor aell a Incraeec TEC·DC9 to anyone at the Tanner GunShow on or about 8/2/98. Miller ehen advised that he kept his firearms reoords,includinq his jj-bound book" a.t his residenc~, and: when a.sked, off@red. 'Co allow SA' 5:
arouse and Dobyns to follow him eo his residence and examine ehe bound book.
4. Af~er SA'S Brouse and Dobyns followed Miller to his residenee l Miller presented higbound bock and various other FFL relaeed records for examination. SA Oobyns ~xamlned
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license ~as an 01 Dealer license. numbe= 3-i4-~O~-O~-9~-362a9. with :he address of ~o
Sox ~S4, Ar~ada, CO, 80001, !n addiCiQn. Srl arouse was shown Miller's old M~renant
Card with Master Card and Visa. The numbe:s on ~he card appeared as follows:
Ac=~ ~ lOG 573 68iagle ~n~e~risea
370 00002103325 KMSCS
G. P~ior to departin9 Miller's residen~~, ~i:le~ adVised that ~i5 business, Eagleinte~rise, had been in operation unde: t~e same ~ame ;o~ several years/ and ehac her~utinely received phone calla and ~ail ~or ot~er bU$in~ases wi~ ehe same or similarnames, He then mentioned one business in par~icular in Hhich his business ~as confusedwi~~. Eagle International, advising chat t~ey Use to manufacture high oapacitymagazines, and that he believed they wen~ cue of husiness several y~ars a9c ~hen ~he
C::me Bill restri~ted che manufacture of high·capacity magazines.
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CEPARTMENT OFTHETREASURYBUREAU OF Al.COHOL. TOSAceo. AND FlRENlMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATIONpage 1 of2 Pa"es
ADDRESSED TO: MONITORED INVES11GA110NINFORMAnON:
Division DirectorPhoenix Field DivisionTITLE OFINVES11GAnON:
Columbine Hi h Sehool Shooting ICAS NUMBER:
785025 99 ecrsREPORT NUMBER:
015
TYPE OFREPORT' (ChoCk Appl/cobi. &aN)
IRAe. Denver I Field OffieeGerald Petrilli
x IREPORT OFINVEliTIGAnOli COLLATERAL REPl.Y
1REPORT OF IHTE!LuGEtliCE
~m.j , SllSIIIITT'El) BY mill> "". 0IfIce) SUBMITT5llBY{Oa,.,
~ ~e ISA, Denver r Field. OffiCI!!DBY(N_J REV'liWEllBY mo. and Oft1c4j REVIEWED BY(DBlO,
APPROVED BY (N.mo) APPROVED BY mo. ""a 0_)
C~riseopher ~, Sadowski 00, Phoen~( ?ield Division
This reporc will aocument the ineerview of Mark C. Stevens, a ~asc vendor at ~anner GunShows in. Oenver I CO.
On April 29, 1995, SA" Jeffery Brouse and Jay Dobyns interviewed Mark C. Stevens. at theATF Denver I Field Office. Also presene during the interview ~as David Miller! attorneyfor Stevellll.
1. on April 26, 199$, SA's Brouse and Dobyns were assigned a 'Rapid Start' investigativel=ad, document control number 1260. That lead adVised of information obtained from aseired. home-made. video tape made by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold 'thanking' "Mr.St.evens" for providing them. a shot.gun .
•. An inter/iew of Robyn Anderson indicated that Harri. and Klebold had purchased firea~,
at a Tanner Gun Show in oenve:r, CO.
3. A query of the Tanner GUn Show. database had one entrl for the name 'Stevens': Mark C.Stevens, 1069 W Nee Road, Larkspur, CO. $0118. telephone number 303-681-.292.
4. On April .9, 1995, at 3:25 PM, SA's Brouse and Dobyns interviewed Mr, Mark C. Steven.at ~~e ATF Denver I Field Office. Present during the interview was Mr. David Miller,attorney for Stevens.
S. Mr. Stevens was questioned regarding his attendance and activity related eo ~anner GunShows in Denver, CO. Mr. Stevens advi.ed of the following: 1) That hi. date of birthis 11*11·53; 2} that he nas ~een a vendor at t~o Tanner Gun Shows in Denver, CO; 3)that the gun shows he attended as a vendor were approximately two years ago; 4) that heis an artist and thAt as sold aviation art paintings/drawin9s at the gun shows; 5) tha:in September or October, 1998, he sold personal firearms at the Tanner Gun Shows; 6)thac he sold the firearms while attending the gun show as a customer and not as •
JC· 001·008152
OEPARTMENT OFTHETREASURYBUREAU OFAI.COHOI.. TOBACCO, AND FlRSARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation SheetTlTI.E OF IHVliSTlGATlON:
Columbine Hi h School Shooting !
Page 2 of2 Paoes
CAllI! NUMIlI!R:
185025 99 OOlS
Rf!I'OIl.T NUMBER:
01&
vendor; 7) that on the flrs~ oceaslon he sola a Wlnchester shotgun; S) that on thesecona oceaslon he sola a SKS rifle, 9) that both sales ~ere to persons whom he acesnet knew, 10) that hoth sales were made to aault males both over 30 years of age, and11l that he aoes not have a recelpt for elther sale.
JC- 001-008153
APORESSEO TO:
DEPARTMENT OFTHETRSASlJRYSURl!AU OF ALCOHOl.. TOlIACeo, AND FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATIONMONITORED tNVESTlGATlON tNFORMA110N:
Special Agent in Charge~hoenix Field DivisionTlTUi. OF IN"IESTltlATlON:
Columbine High School Shooting I
TYPE OF RliPORT' (Chfldt AppilcalJHJ-'$1
CA$E~UMSl!ll:
795025 99 001S
X REPORT OF lliVEllTlGA110H COlJ.ATERAL REP!.Y
RIiPORT OF INTEI.UGEliCS
SUSMITTl!O BY(Name) SUIIMITTED sy mila ami Office) ISUIIMlTTED BY (Daro)
Jeffrey P. Brt:luse SA/Denver IRIiVlIiWliD IIY (Nome) REVIl!WEO IIY(TrU".". ome.) I REVlliWliD SV10a,o)
(Jerald T. Peerilli " RAC/Cenver IA.Pfl1ltCvao 8Y (Name] AFPROI/Etl BY ;TiUO .,,<1CIIfc:.) APPROveO BY (Oals)
Christopher P. Sadowski Special Agen~ in Charge
!ucer"'fiew '.dth Mel Bernseein, owner of oragQn A...-:n$ Inc., a Class III E'ed.eral Fi:-earmsLicensee.
SINCps:rs.
On 4/27/99, SA's Jeff arouse and Jay Oobyns showed Mel !ernscein phot~ line~ups containinsphoeographs of eric !Ia.«is. Dylan lClebold and Rci:lyn Anderson.
1. on 4/27/99, SA'S Jeff Brouse and Jay Dobyns met Mel Bernstein (W/M DeB 12/7/451, aehis place of business, Dragon Arms Inc., located at 1200 Dragonman Orive. coloradoSprings, Color~do, aO~29, (7131 583-2200, and .howed him three separate phoeo ltneups containing pictures of Ertc aa~is, Dylan KIebold and Robyn Andersen. Sernsee.nhad previously reporeed to ATJ!' that five or six weeks a90 four young '"hit" male.,some of which we~e wearinq dark ~Qlored e;ench coacs, accompanied by a younq whitefemale, attempted to s~raw-purchaae scme firearms from his busin«sa. (Note: See ATF3120,2 under ease numeer 785020-99-0001. =epo~ number 03, for more detailsconcerning this incident.)
2. While showing Bernstein the photo line-ups, he advised the following, tn the photoline-up containin9 a photo of Robyn Anderson, he ideneified phoeo number 2 as apossible, in the photo line-up coneaining a photo of Eric Harris, he identifiedphoto number j as 95' possible; in the photo line-up containing a photo of DylanKlebold, he identified photo number 1 as 90% possible. After he looked at eachphoto line-up, he initialed the number next to eh4 photograph he identified and ehenindicated hia choices on Photo Lineup fo~ JCSD/I 514, which, along with theoriginal photo line-ups, were retained by SA's Brouse L~d Dobyns.
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PROPERTY lNVENTORYfFORFEl.TED PROPERTY APPRAISAL REPORT04/27/99
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Air .c.z ..-N.lO ,01--'01)
A' '!iSSEll TO:
DePARTMENT OFTHe TREASURYslJRe:AU OF Ai-COMOI.. TOBACCO, ANI) FiREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATIONMONITORElllNVliSl1GAnON INFORMATION:
special Agene in ChargePhoenix Field DivisionTITl..eOF INVESTlGATION'
Columbine Hi n Sehool Sheetin !CASEIIUMllliR:
785025 99 0013
REPORT NUMBER:
rz
X RliPOlU OF INVliSTIGAnOll I ICOlJ.ATEllAL REPl.Y
REPOlU OF INTliLLlGliNCli I ISUBMlTTEll BY(Nlltn<lj SU8MIT11!D BY(1iU. """ 0111<:.) sUSMlTT!!ll liV(D.1O)
Jeffrev P, Brause SA/Oen'V"er rRliVIEWEll BY(N_) REVIEWED BY (TdJ.anoOffic.) IREVieweD BY (D.tol
Gerald 't. Petrilli RAe/Denver ! !
APPROVED liY (N,,,,,,! APPROVEll BY Il'iU. ilflO OffIce) APPROVED SV 'D",.)
Cl:lristcrpher P. Sadcwski Special Agent in Charge
-:ll;l"l'l:0N" 011' AC'llMn'
In~erview with Mel Bernstein and Terry Flannell. owne~$ of Dragon Arms Inc.,a Class !I!Federal Firearms Licensee.
SXlf9fSISl
On ./27/99, SA'S Jeff aro~se and Jay Dobyns into~Tiewed Mel Bernstein and his wife, 'te~1
Flannell regarding a fax eopy photograph of a young woman sent to him by an un~~own mediaperson.
1. On 4/27/99, SA'. Jeff aro~se and Jay Dobyns interTiewed Mel Bernstein (W/M DOa12/7/45), and 'terry Flannell (W/F DCB 7/a/59) at their place of business located at1200 Dragonman Drive, Colorado Springs, Colorado, 60929, (719) 683-2200, re9ar~in9 afax copy photograph of a young woman, '.hic;' was sent to him by an =~"'lOwn mediaperson. Bernstein is ~he owner of Oragon Arms Inc., a Federally licensed. Class IIIbusiness, ~der PFt number 584-021-01-9K-J6349.
2, During the interview, Flannell advised that at approximately 11:00AM, on 4/26/99,she received a phone eall from a reporeer possibly from Char.nel 9. this unknoworepol:".:er advised that he wanted to send a fax eopy of a photpgraph of a female eheybelieved the poliee were questioning who may have been involved in purchasingfirearms for Erio Harris and Dylan Klebeld. Flannell further advised thae ehereporeer waneod Mel Bernstein to look at t~ photo and advise the media if theperson in the.photo was & female wbo was possibly in Bernstein's business five orsix weekS 4g0 with four young males weazing treneh coats 4 who attempeed to purchasesome firearms. (Note: See ATF 3120.2. under Case NUmber 185020-99-0001, Report OJ,for additional information concerning this eventl. Flannell stated that shortlyafter the conversation wi~ the reporter, a photo of a young white female waS faxed
JC· 001·008157
OEPARTMENT OF THE meASURYBURliAU OFAl.COHOl., TOeACCo, ANO FlRl!ARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation SheetT OFINVliSTIGATlON:
Page :0 of:z Pa el
..:s;w..,,--:r :z::Columbine High School n •CAllE NUMBER:
785025 99 corsIRllP<lRT NUMSER:
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to the business. Once Flannell received the fax, she refused to show it to MelBernseein because she did not wane eo influence his memorf - as she expected ATF toshow Bernstein a,pacto line-up possibly containil19 a photo of the young wcman,Flannell further advised that she destroyed the fax photo during the course of theday with=" sbowing it eo Bernsuin.
Mel aernstein then advised that later on the afternoon of ~/26/99, another fax coPVphocograph of a young white female was faxed to his business. unlike the first ~~photograph, which ~is wife T~rry Flannell did not allow him ~o view, he saw this faxpboto. Bernstein staeed that atter he lOOKed at the photograph, he took thephotograph to his wife, and told ber that he wss positive the per.on in ~~ faxphoeograph was ehe same female who was wieh four young males who at:empted tQ straw~
purchase firearms five or ~ix weeks previously, Bernstein further advised that hedid not talk to any media representative~ after he viewed the fax phQ~c.
SA Brouse then had 3erns~ein initial and daee ~e f~ photo and then eook custody ofelle fax photo leaving !!'lannell a copy of "AT!!' F 324Q.1 (Oocument: Receipt) ,
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Je· 001.008160
DOBYNS, J.
JC· 001.008161
ADDRESSEO TO:
CEPARTMENT OF THETREASURYBUREAU OF Al.COHOL, TOllACOO, ANO FIREAflMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATIONMONITOREIlINVESTIGAT10N tNFORMAnON:
Page 1 of2 Pages
~ .ision Director (DO)Phoenix field OivisionT1Tl.S. OF ll'llfesnGAnON:
CAS NUIIIS£R:
785025 99 00~8
TYPE OF RI!l'ORT:ICheck Apl'i/C3blo BO>U/
It ! REI'tlRT OF INVl!S11GA11C1lN
! REPORTOF IHTEUJGENCE
SUBIIIITTEIl BY (Neme)
.r« ;L DobynsREVIEWED BY (Nom.
Gerald "etri iAl'l'ROVED BY (II-B/
Christo9her ~. Sadowski
REI'tlRT NUMBER:
015
I ICCLJ.ATERAlREPLY
R!!VI!Wl!:O llY mfill and omcOjRAe, Denver I Field Office
IAPPIlOVED BY (TitJ. and Ollie,,)
00, Phoenix Field Oivisioni APPROVED BY (Do",/
t
This re~or~ do~umenes the 04~29-99 interview of Mr. Jame$ Moore, sales clerk, GreenMountain Guns. The report will fureher document Mr. Moore's failure eo identify suspec=sSr~c Harris Qr Dylan Kle~old as the person(s) purehasin9 firearm magazines from Green
ntain Guns on O.camber J~, ~9~a.
On A~ril 29, 1399/ Special Agents Jeffery 3rouse and Jay Dobyns ineerriewed Mr, JamesMoore, sales clerk, Green Mountain Guns. The interview determin~d thae on De~ember 29,1998, Mr. Moore transferr~d nine. 9mm, ai~Point, firearms maqazines from Green MouneainGuns to a ~st¢m~~ alleged CQ b~ Er~c Har=is, Theae magazines are compatible with a Hipoint, 9mm, carbine, rifle, recovered from the crime scene at columbine Sigh School andall~ged ~o hava been in the possession of Oylan Klebold. Mr. Moor~ eould not ideneifyEr~c Harr;s or Oylan Klebold from a photographic line-ups.
1. an April 26, 1999 1 SAls Brouse and Dobyns were assigned a \Rapid Start' investigaeivelead, document oontrol number 1238. That lead advised of information obtained from asei%~d home~made, video ~ape made by ~~ic Harris and nylan Klebold alleging that GreenMouncain Guns was a gun store used by sus~eees Harris and Klebold eo purchase firearmmaga.zines.
J. On April 26, 19~9, SA's Brcuo. and Dobyns interview.d Mr. James Moore. Ouring t~is
interriew Mr. Moore identified his handwriting on an order form for firearm m49azinesallegedly transferred to Eric Harris. (see report number 009; 765025 99 0016; fordetails) .
3. on April 29, 1599, at 11:45 AM, SA's Brouse and Dobyns met Mr, James Moore at GreenMouneain Guna, 11079 W Jewell Avenue, Lake~Qod, CO, 80232.
4, Mr. Moore was shown a pbotooopy of tbe Green Mountain Guns sales order/reoeipt, Order ~4090, dated 12-1a-~S and oontaining the name Erio Harris. Mr. Moore again, identifiedau handwriting on the reoeipt. He initialed the photooopied rece Lp- ·,lM'.
JC· 001.008162
OEPARTMENT OFTHETReASURYBUREAU OFAl.COHOI.. TOEACCO, ANO l'1REARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation Sheet
'T""'Ji OF INVell1lGATION:
~age 2 of2 sra es
Columbine High School Shooting ICASE NUMBER'
785025 H OOla
REPORT NUMBER:
015
S, Mr. Moore was snown a photograph line-up coneaining a picture of Eric Harris and fiveother persons elo$e~y re$embling Harris. Mr. Moore was unable to select any person inthe phoeo line-up as the person obtaininq the firearm magazines in question on Dece~er
23. 1999.
6. Mr. Moore was sho",," a photograph line-up oon1>4ining a piceure of Dylan laebold end fiveothe:r peno"",, olosely resembling laeJ:>old. Mr. Moore was =a.ble to s..bce any person i.nthe phoeo line-up as the person obtaining the firearm magazine" in question on Deoember25. 1355.
7. The phoeograph line-ups and cereifieaeions dis~layed eo Mr. Moore were retained andplaoed into evidence.
A'l"l'ACllMENTS :
ATF F 3400.16. Property Form. reo ~rio a4rris photograph line-up and ce~ifioation
displayed to Ja"",. Moore,
Dylan Klebold photograpn line-up and certification displayed to James Moore.
JC· 001.008163
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IPROPE.RTY lNYE.'ITORYlFORFEITED PROPERTY APPRAISAL REPORT 04/29/99f, :l'N5n'lOA'MON !'t1JMID 2. AClCN
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JC.001.008165
MOHlTOREllINVESTlGATlQN lNFORIlIATlQN:'Rl!5SED TO:
OEPARTMENT 01' THETREASURYBUREAU OFA,COHO!., TOSACCO. ANO FIREARMS
REPORT OFINVeSTIGATiON
j'I Page 1 of
'2 Pa.ges
D~vi$ion Direc~or (DO)Phoenix Field Oivisionrma OF lNVlISTlGAnON:
columbine !Ugn School shooting rCASE! N1JMBl!R:
755n5 99 00l.6IREPORT NUMBER:
011
x IREPORT OF lNVliSnGAnON COlLATERAL. REPLY
IREPORT OF INTEL.lJGENCE
SUBMIT'lElJ BYiN"""')
L rJ/'SUBMlTnll BYmu. /lIldOlllco) S:;:;~D BY rO''''1
Jay A. OobVT.1S SA, Tuc.on Field Office -2 7-"!1RI!\IIlWEO BY(~« IRE\IIEWllD BY (illio ilIld OIIfc'j RI!\IIlWED BY(Oot./
Gerald Petri. i RAe, Denver I Field Qffi~e
APPROVeD BYiName)
Chrisc~pher P. Sadowski IAPPROWD SY (1711. and Olllco/
~D, Phoenix Field OivisionI APPROVED BY (Oam)
This repor~ documents the intartiew of Mr. Ronald Martin, ex-owne~ of Green Mountain Guns.The report will further document Mr, Ma;~inJa identification of Eric ~arris as the personr ~erin9 firearm magazines f;om Green Mountain Guns on December la, 1998.
On ~pril 26, 1999, Special Agent. Jeff~rl Brouse and Jay Dobyns inter,iewea Mr. RonaldMar~~n, ex·owner of Green Mountain Guns. The interview dee~~lned enac on December ~a.
1999, Eric Sarris ordered nine, 9mm, ai·~oinc, firearms magazi~es from Green MountainGun3. !hese ma9a:ine~ ar~ compatible ~i~h a Si*peint, 9mm, carnine, rifle, recovered fromthe crime scene at CQ1~ine High School and alleged to have been in the possession ofDylan Klel:lold.
1. On April 26, 1999, SA's Brouse and Dobyns were assigned a 'Rapid Start' investigativelead, document ccntrol number 1238. That lead advised of information obtained from aseized home-made, video cape ~~de by eric Harris and Dylan Klebold alleging ehac GreenMountain Guns was a sun store used by sU2pec~s Ha~~is and Klebold eQ purchase :irearmma,9a zi;1es.
2. On April 26, 1999, SA'S 3rouse and Dobyn. incerviewed Ms. Sue Stoddard, the eurrencowner of Green Mountai~ Guns and the ex~~ife of Robe~~ Martin. Ms. Stcddard seatedt~ac Ron Martin could be contacted at telephone number 303-697-7253. Ms. Stoddardstated chat Ronald Martin had a.sisted eric Harri. in placing an order for firearmmagazines, rhia information led to the development of 'Rapid Scart' inve.tigativelead, document control number 1365. SA Brouse arrang~d to meet with Ron Martia onApril 27, 1999.
~n April 27, 1999, at 11,00 AM, SA's Brouse and Dobyns met Mr, Ronald Martin at GreenMountain Guns, 11078 ~ Jewell Avenue, LakewQod, CO, a0232. Mr. Marcin (OOS 09-09-37;home addre•• 15945 Double ~agle Drive, Morrison, CO, 80455; home telephone number 303597-72531 stated that he i. the ex-owner of Green Mountain Guns and that he retired inDecember, 1398.
JC- 001·008166
OEPARTMENT OFTHETREASURYBUREAU OFAl.COHOI., rceACCC. ANDFIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - ContinuatIon Shatl!eOF IIiVESTrGATrOll:
Columbine High School Shooti~g r
Page 2 of2 Pagu
CASEHUMBER:
785025 99 0016 IREF'ORT NUMBER,
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4. Mr. Martin further stated that he recalls receivins a telephone call aC Oraen MountainGuns regarding che ~vailabl1ty of Hi-Point. 9mm. firearm masazines. Mr, Martin seatedchae ne recalls advising the caller that he would have to order the magazines and thatthe order would have to be pre·paid. Mr. Martin stated that he did not recall if thetelephone call he reoeived was plaoed prior to, or on Deoember la, 1996.
S. Mr. Martin seated that on December 16, 1995, he ~a$ working behind the .ale. counter atGreen Mountain Guns when Eric Harris entered the store and ordered nine, Hi~poin~, 3mm,carbine, firearm magazine.. Mr. Marein seated thae na eCQk the order. Mr. Mart~n
stated tha~ ne recalled the order as unusual beeaua~ of :he number of magaZines Qrder~d
and that ehe Si~Poine product was noe considered a 'good' produoe. Mr. Martin 3~ated
cha~ ~ric Harr~i caid the full amQ~~ of ~~e order in cash ac the time of the order.Mr, Marcin seaeed~~hac he rec~lle4 ~riG Sarri~, and the fi:earm magazine order. ingreaeer detail after ATP contacted him for an inte~Tiew related ~o the Columbine HighScnool shootinss. Mr. Mar~in seated ~hae he did noe helieve ~y o~~er pe4sonaccompanied sric Harris inside Green Mountain Guns on December la, 1999.
0. Mr. Martin was shown tn. Green Mo~tain Guns sales order/receipt! Order # 4090, datedt2-l8-98 and conta~~ing the name !ric ~r=is. Mr. Martin identified his handw~iting onene ~=eeipt. He initialed the back Qf ~he =eceipc 'RM'.
1. Mr. ~ar~in was shown a phocosraph line-up ~ontaining a picture of ~ri~ :~rris and fiveother persons closely rasemb1in9 Harris. Mr. Marein aelec~4d photo9raph #Z (E~ic
Harris) as the person who placed the fir!arm maga~ine order. Mr, Martin ini~ialed
picture ~2 'RM' and cQmplet~ A phoCO lineaup cer~if~cacion form.
a, The photograph line·up initialed by Mr. Mar~in and the photo line·up certification werere~ained and placed into evidence.
AnAOlMEm:S,ATF F 3400,16, Property Form, re, tric Harris photograph line-up idencified/initialed byRonald Ml.ro::.in.
JC- 001-008167
PROPltRTY INVENTORYIFOIl..l"EITED PROPERTY APP!LUSAL REPORT 04/2e/99
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OEPARTMENT OFTHETREASURYBUREAU OFALCOliOl.. TCEACCO, AND FlRE;\RMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION'RESSEO TO:
O~vi.ion Oireceor {DO)Phoenix Fiald Division
MONlTORSD INVllS'I'lGA'I'lON INF<lRMATlON:
Page 1 of2. ~ages
rrns OF INVllSTlGATlON:
IREPORT NUMllllR:OO~
WI! NUMl!l!R:7SS0.S ,~ co rs
Columbine lli9h School shooeing I
, ,X IREI'ORT OF INVESTlGAnON COLLATEIlALRel'LY
IREPORT OF lNTEWOENCE
SIl6MITT1!O llY (N.",.) SIlIlMJ1Tl!O BY (I1Uo and Offlco) i SU1!lMITTED BY fOa'o)
Jav A. Dobyns ,.;..,J{,,/' - SA, Tucson Field Of:ice I t),.j - Z1- <1"1REVIEWED BY(~~ RlMIiWEO BY (1'ltfG and a_) I REVIEWED BY IDilIO)
Gerald P4!trilli RAe, Denver I Field Office iAPPROVED BY (Neme) APP!lOVI!Il BY (TItle atld 0_1 I APPROVeD BY IDa",)
C:tl.riseot:l'her p, Sadowski DO, PhoenL~ Field DiYision I
ThiS :epor~ documents the inter/iew of Ms. ~~e Stoddard and Mr. ~amee Moore, employees acGreen Mountain Guns. The ~eport will furt~er document the acquisicion of document
'dence {reeained) as it r~late$ to the purchase of firearm magazines by Eric Har~is,
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On April •• , 19'9, Special ~genes Jeffery arouse and Jay Oobyns in~er/iewed employee. ofGreen MQ~~ain Guns. The interY9iews determined that on December 29, 1998, Eric Har~is
pu~ohaged nine, 9mm, Hi-Point, firearms masa~i~es from Green MOuntain Guns. Thesemagazines are compatible with a Hi-Point, Smm. ~arbine, rifle, recovered from ~he c=imescene at Cclumbine High School and alleged eo bave been in the posses.ion of Dylan!<lebold,
JC· 001-008169
1. On April 26 , 1999/ SA' $ Brouse and Oobyns were assigned a 'Rapid Star~< investigativelead, do~~ent oontrol number 1238, That lead advised of information ob~ained from aseized. home-made, video tape made by tric aarris and Oylan Klebold alleging ~hae GroenMountain Guns 'Nas a gun S1:0re used by sUS'Pec~l!j Harris and Klebold. to purchase firear:nmagazines.
2, On April 2$, 19i9, &~ 3:0~ ?M, SA's Brouse and,Oobyns arrived at Green Mountain Guns,11018 WJewell Avenue, Lakewood, CO, 802'., telephone number (3031 98;-1.40.
3, Interviewed at this time was Ms, Sue Stoedard (DOa 0&-27-42; home address 1712 Svalentine Way, Lakewood, CO, 602.a; nOme telephone number ,o,-~aS-9a291, Ms, Stoddardis the owner of Green Mountain Guns. Ms. Stoddard was asked to research ene GreenMountain Guns sales records for the names Sric ~arris, D¥lan Klebold, Robyn Anderson,and/or for special orders of Hj-Point, amm, firearm magazines,
Ms. stoddard produoed a Green Mountain Guns sales order/receipt, Order~ 4090,cQntainin9 informacion r~lated to the order and sale of nine, Hi-poine, 9mm, carhine,magazines cy Eric Karris. A portion of the receipt is alleged to have ceen completedby Eric Harris. Other portions of the receipt are to have been completed by Mr. Ron
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURYBLiReAU OF AlCOHOl.. TOBACCO. AND AREAIlMS
REPORT OFINVeSTIGATION - Continuation Sheet~ ; OF INVESTIGATION:
Columbine High school Shooting rCASe NUMSeR:
785025 ss 0016
IREPORT NUMBER:
OO~
Martini ex-owner of Green Mountain Guns (also ex~husband of Sua Stoddard), and Mr.James R. Moore. sales clerk at Green Mountain Guns.
5. The 90~ion of the receipt allegectly completod by eric Har~i. inolude. the eOllowin...11 D~T2: 12-16-~6; 2) ~AME, Eric Harris, 3) PHO~ n:JIIIIIIIIIIIII 41 ADDRESS:
.......... 51 CITl: Littleton; 6) STATE: co, 7) ZIP:~ !TEM TO ORDER, Hi~, Carbine, Magazines. This was allogedly completed on December 16, 1398.
6. The portion of the receipt allegedly comple~ed by Ron Ma~tin includ~s the Eollo~ing: 1)Order ~ 40~0; 21 AMOUNT: 5135.00; 1) TAX: 8.51; 4) TOTAL: 5141.51, and 51 a handwritt.anotation: ~ mag, $15.00 ea. This was allegodly compleced on December lB, 133B.
7. The por:ion of the receipt completed by James Moore includes the followijS: 1) TOTALOUE: Paid In Full; and 2) a handwrit~en ~ocation: ~icked Up 12-29-98 (wi~h JamesMoore'S initials). This ~as allegedly completed on Oecember 29, 1998.
B. ~r. Jame. Moore (DOB 07-08-42; home address 9725 w ~entu~ky Drive, ~akewood, CO, 80226,heme telephone number 303-989-8417) ~as interriewed and stated that he has been a salesclerk at Green Mouneain Guns since September, 1~9a. Mr. Moore fur~~er seated that he~ecalled ~he firearm magazines transaceion as unusual because of the large nu~er of,magazines ordered and, that the type ordered were noe a part of normal Green MouncainGuns steck. Mr. Moore f~t~er seated that he vaguely recalls the perZon picking-up theorder as young, ~all. and wi~~ dark hair, Mr. Moo~e d~d noe recall if the personpicking~up ehe m&9&zines was alone.
9. Ms. Stoddard stated thae Ron Mar~in cou1d be contaeeed at telephone number 3a~-697
7263.
10. Ms. Stoddard waS asked to research ehe ar~en Mountain Guns sales records for 12-1a~
38 and 12-23-98 (daces locaced on che order/purchase recei9t and dates Eric aarris wasknown eo have been at Green Mountain Guns) to deeermine if any other items werepurchased on these dates by the suspeccs.
11. ~s. Stcddard produced a sale. receipt, dated 12-29-98, in the namO of Erio Harrisdetailing the purchase of 3, Hi-Point, carbine, ma;azlnos, for 5143.00. Ms. Stoddardstaced thae no other do~~entation for the dates requested or, for the names,researched was locaced.
12. SA Brouse competed an ATF F 3240.1, Documont Receipt, detailing ATF's retention ofthe two receipts discussed in this report. Copies were made of ehe receipts and, alongwith the document receipt, woro prOVided to Ms. Stoddard in exchange for the receiptevidence. The receipcs were retained and placed into evidence.
~TTAC!!Mll:N'l'S:ATF P 3400.15, ?roper~y Form, re: Firearm magazine receipts Obtained from Green Mountai~
t J containing the name 'Eric Harris' .
JC- 001-008170
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IPROPERTY lNVENTORYiFORFElTED PROPERTY APPlUlSAL REPORT 04/27/99I
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Lakewood, CO 80232 AT? Evidence Vault:iu. -." ~
, Denver I l1'ie1d Office.' , Denver, COU078 W Jewell Avenue
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Lakewood .4. irATi: II. JUDla.v,.lJiRlUCt'
CO Colorado,2., :iAM&Ai'lQAOO~O!"~ OWNEiVL ilJ'lUK UJ acMT rnnn~ ana __us aooltfi
ISue Stoddardu. D~ONOfffiOPERTY !
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DEPARTMENT OF THETReASURYBUREAU OFALCOHOL. TOBACCO. AND FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION
j
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'2 I?ag'l!s'/lESSED TO: MONITORED INVESTIGATION INFORMAnoN:
Oivision Dirececr (DO)Phoenix Field Division'lTl1.E OF INVI!ST10"nON:
columbine Ki h Se~ool S~o~in tCASE NUMElE
7QSO~S: 99 oo i.eREPORT NUMIII;R:
008
K /lIiPOllT OF INIII!STlGATlElN COu.ATliRA~ /lI!PI.Y
RIiPOIlT01' INTIil.l.lGI!t1CE
sIJ8MIl'TIiD BY (Nomo!J
SUElMrlTl!D BYma. ana Olfics! ISutm;~BY~~re)Jav A. Dobyns fI"1./ SA, TUeson Field OfficeRI!llIEWI!O lilY (/1"""'1 tP' fIE1I1EWED ElV mu. .no otffoe) i RI!IIIEWIlO BY ,Oatel
Gera ld p..~rilli aAC. Oenv..r t Field Offiee I"PP/lOV1!ll BYiN"""'!
Chriscopher P. Sadowski IAPPROVED !Y mUe and allfcs!
. nD, Phoenix Field OivisioniAPPROVED BY (0lI1O)
This repor~ will doeumene the interview Ms. carol Slodgstt, cOQrdinato~ of ~anner GunShows in Denver, CO. the report further doc~ents th~ receipt of gun show vendor recor~s
t a <:Un show floorplan as tney rela~e to the T~~er Gun Show., Denver, CO,
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On April 2•. 1999, Special ~gent. Jeffer; Srou.e and J..y Dobyn. in,e:viewed c..rol alod"ecct~e COQ~dinator of ~anner Gun Shows in Denver. co. The inter,iew was conaucead inralaeion eo informacion thac eric Harris, Dylan Klebold and ~obyn Anderson purchasedfirearms at th. Tanner ~4n Show, Oenver. CO.
ac- 001-008172
1, On Apr~l 20, 1999, SA'. Brouse and Dobyns were assigned .. 'Rapid Star~' inves,i;..civelead, documene control numbers 12S0 and 13.1, Those lead. advised of inform..tion,obtained from a seized, home~made. video made by Eric Karris and Dylan Klecold. and aninte~tiew of Robyn Anderson, advising that Anderson, Erie Harris and Dylan Kleboldpurcha.ed firearms from per.ona a~ the Tanner Gun Show,
2. On April 20, 1999, a~ 4,00 PM, SA'. Brouse and Oobyn. arrived at ehe residenoe of M•.Carol Blodgett ICOB 03-30·35), SSDS S Va....r Avenue, Denver, CO, home telephone number13031 75.·0675.
3. Ms. Blodgett w... interviewed re"arding her knOWledge of T..nner Gun Show dealer. andbooth loc..tions ..t Tanner Gun Shows in Denver between June 1995 and April 1999. Ms_Blodge~t provided a dealer list for the Denver, CO, Tanner Gun Show. on ~ovember 22-23,1958 ..nd Deoember 12·13, 1998. Ms. Blodgett further provid6d a dealer 'floQ"plan' thatdocuments de ..ler loo..tions, ....he a.signs them, during Tanner Gun Shows.
Ms, Blodgett !ureher ..dvised of the following: 1) That her title is ~h..t of'coordinator' tor Tanner Gun Shows in Denver; Z) thae sbe is familiar with a dealern..med Larry. Ru.sell (110 w 70~ Avenue, Denver, co; eelelphon~ number 303-420-4066); 3)that Larry Rus.ell regularly operate. de..ler t ..ble. at Tanner Gun Show. 4} th..t .he h..seeeeived complaints re"arding uneehical firearm. de..ling by Larry Russell at the Tanner
OEPARTMENT OF THETREASURYBUREAU OFAl.COHOL. TCeACCO. AND FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Continuation She.t. S OF INVESTIGATION:
Page 2 of2 Pag...
Columbine High SChool Shooting !CASSNUMllER:
785025 99 OOla
IREPORT NUMBER:
ooa,
~un Shaws; and S) that ~he complaints wer~ mads by Mr. Ron War~en (2030 Alamosa Drive,Colorado Springs. co, 80920; telephone number 71S-S93-SS71).
5. SA arouse competed an ATF F 3240.1, Document Receipt, detailing ATFfs r~e~ntion of thepreviously referenoed dealer list. and floorplan. The dooument reoeipt was provided toMs. Blods;ett in exchange for the documents. Th.. document. WIOta retained and placedi:icO evid.ence.
e. On April 2S, lS95, at 11:00 AM, SA'. Srouse and Oobyns met with Ms. alodgett andc.htained additional v....aor records related to the Tanner Gun Show. in Oenver. Ms.Blodgee~ waa not re-incerviewed and aid not volunt~~ any new informaeion.
7. SA Brouse competed an ATF ~ 3240.1~ Ooc~ent ~ec~ipt, de~ailin9 AT~'S retention of e~$
additional vendo~ records. ~he documene receipt was provided to Ms. 31cdgee~ inexchange for the vendor records. ~he cocumenes '~re recained ana placed lneo evidenc~.
AT':'AClMEll1'S:1l<T? '; 340l1.1;;, Property form. re, 'tanner Gun Show v....dor recor<ls and floo""lan.
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DEPARTMENT OFTHe TREASURYeUREAU OF A.COHOI.. TOSACCO, ANO FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION~ag~ l of3 Pages
AOD'IESSeIl TO: MONITORIltlINVESTIGA'l1ON INFORMATlON;
IL sian Director?hQenix cield D~vision
TlTI..E OF INVES'l1GAnON:
Columbin~ H~gh School Shootinq !CAlli ~UMBeR:
785025-99-0018
REPORT NUMIlEII:
026
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It IREPORTOF INVeSTIGA'l1ON I COI.l..A'l"l!I'W. REP!.Y
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Christopher ? Sadowski OD/?~oenix Field Division
SYNOPSIS:
~eport of interJiew wieh J~ssica Lynne Mikl~~~t oOB: 9/1SJ1S t 5190 Bow Mar Drive!L~ttleton, C~lorado, 80123, conducted on 5/3/99.
1. On ~Y 5, 1999, at aPP~oximately 4:15 p.~.t Jessica Miklich waS interviewed at the3u~eau of ~XF off~ce loeated at 1901 StQ~C, ~~ 630, Denver, CO. The interview ~as
c~nducted by Special Agent La:~y K~isl and present dU~inq the inte~view wasJefferson county Assistant District Aetorney Srian aoaeriqh~, and Mr. Daniel ~echtl
atto~ey for th~ Miklioh family.
2. Miklich stated that she resides with he~ pa~ents at the Littleton, CO, add:essabove. Miklioh had r~oently been injured wh~n h~= v~hiole hydroplan~d and roll~d
over during a rains~or.m the weekend previou3 to the int.:view~ O~e to this accidentand debilitatinq injuries, ~kl~ctt stated that she will be at this residenoe andcan be contacted in the future at 303-734-0406. The parents of Miklich accompani~d
he= Co the ATF Qffice bu~ were asked by Jes$ica and her attorney Recht, to not bepresen~ during the interview.
3. Mixlioh stated that .he has known Mark Mane••inc~ approKimately Webruary of 1999.Miklioh had work~d as a barmaid at th~ Kilt and Candle Pub in Littl~ton, CO, and metManes when he was a cuatomer. Miklicn de$crihed the relationship that she and ManeShave as beinq very close and that tney tell each other everything.
4. M1Kl1ch sa1d .h~ first m~t Eric Harris and Dylan Kl~bold on Maroh 6, 1999. Sh~distinetlv rememb.~$ chis date since she Qurchased a neW ear on March 5. 1999. and
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DEPARTMENT OF THETREASURY!l\JREAUOF A~COHa1.. rOEACCO.ANDFIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTIGATION - Conti"uation Sheet
TlTl.E. OF INVESTIGATION:
Page 2 of3 ~a es
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the following day she ~as with Manes when they met Harris and Klebold. On March 6,1999, Mikl~cQ said that she picked ap Manea at Q~S reaidence. Manes brought a .45eal~be~ pistol and ammo as well as a Mini-3D carbine and ammo. They then drove foeapproximately 20 minutes to a pre-arranged location in the Rampart foothills areasouthwest of Liteleton, CO. Manes provided directions to this area as he had shotfirearms at this locat~on previously. upon arriving at the area, Miklich oarked hervehicle next to a dark-colored Nissan Maxima whi~~ Miklich and Xanes knew~was ownedby ~hil Duran. Miklich and Manes chen followed a trail for about 10 minutes un~il
arriving at the location where other individuals we4e already shooting.
5. Upon arriving at th~s locaeion t Miklich is int~oduced :0 ~:ic Ha:ris and wylanKle~old. Ph~l Duran was present and Mikl~ch already Knew him since Duran and Manes~e~e close friends. Manes ~ook his ei~eacns Que the1= Cases and ~ane$ ~na M1kl1cntook t~rns shooting the Min~-30 earb1ne and .45 pi~tol. Mi~lich said that they shotat bowling pins and t=ees.
6. Miklich said that Ra=~is and Klebold ~i:~ all Qf the fi:ea:ms ~hich ~hey hadbrouqht with them. ~klich said that ~a~=is and ~lebold had two sawed~of= shotqun3hidden behind a rock. Miklich desczibed =hese shQ~guns as having short barrels andthe stocks sawed ¢f~ to a ~1stol g=ip. One of the shotguns was a double-barrel andthe other was a pump ac~ion. Miklich fired one of che shotguns but d1dn t t :~ember
which one as she only fired one round and didn't reload at wo~k the action. Mikl~~~
said that Har=is had a cue on his ~anci whi=h he said ~as the result of 5hoc~inq oneof cne sawed-off shotquns.
7. Ha4~is, Kl.bQld, Ouran, Manes and ~~xlich all fired a TEe 9 pistol which Manes toldMiklich was sold by Manes to Klebold. Miklich said that chey fired the pi3tol at aclose range at bowling pins and trees. All 010$. :ange shooeinq was at items abou~
6-10 feet away from the shooters.
6. Har=1~ an~ Kleoold fired a rifle which Miklich desoribed a. being all biaok in colorand resembling the ~e$c~ipt~on of a Highpoin~ rifle~ Miklich said this was fired aea greaeer dis'tance anc.i appeared eo be quite: accuzace ,
9. Harris and Klebold fired sluqs from the shotguna and Miklich was shocked at ~~e
amount of damage thae resulted fzom the ,luqs.
10. ~klich described Rarris as being a ~litele weirdo but that ne seemed to her to be~fa~rly n~ceH. Karris was wea~in~ a black cap with a rock band logo, black pants,black trench coat, and had hair that wa& longer than in the recent photos releasedby the media. She described him as beinq about S'laR
- 5'11u when compar~d to Mareswho is about 1S t 5,1'. Miklicn thQL49ht Harris looked about. 17 yeea.t:'5 old.
11. Miklich deacribe~ Klabo1d aa baing a. a1.0 wearing a black cap and panes. Miklichchouqht tha~ Klebold also appeared to be "niceH and didn't have much conver3at~on
with e~ther Harris or Klebold. Klebold also appear~ to be about 17 yea~s of aqe toMiklich.
l~~ Mikli~~ stated that Phil Ouran was videotaping Karri$~ Klehol~, Manes,Iand Miklich asthey are Shooting on this date. The equipment had come f=om the Columbine Hi9h~rhf'lJ"'li Miit-li..-h .. .:ail"'! MAn•• h,llft A ....Ml"'ltt ",,-F ~hiq "';""'''rl .oll"'l"'; ... h::lif' .:ak~H~ r'll'i4Olo 14__ 11- A-Fto.1'"
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DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURYBUREAU OF ALCOHOL. TOBACCO, ANO FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVESTlGATlON - Contlnu8tion ShlltltIj ?age .3 ofj J i?aqes
this shoot~nq inc~dent she and ~ane$ watched the video at her ~a3idence.
13. On April 19, 1~99, Miklich was ~:h Manes a~ his cesidence when Manes eeceived aphone calion his cell phone from eric Harris. Manes told Miklicn that Ha:ris wantedManas to pu:chase 100 :~unds of 9mm ammo. Manes and Miklich left within minutes of~his ~hone call and w.~t ta the Kmart on $Quth Wadsw~'t~. Miklich sa~d that Manespurchased 2 boxe~ of 9mm ammunition in Nhite boxes and 1 box of .45 calibe=ammunition in a whit~ box. Manes paid for the ammunition with his c:edit card.
14. Af~er leaving the Kmart, Manes called SaL:is by using a programmed numbe~ in ensmemory of his cell phone. Manes ad~ns.d Ha&zis that they had the~o he ~ad
=eque5t~d and co mee~ them at Manes' residencew When ~anes and Xiklich a==i'r~d atthe =esidence, Harris was alraady there ~aiti~q for them in ~he d~~~e'NaY. Miklic~
did not remember seeing a vehicle or what Ear=is was wearing. Man~$ ~cld ~ac=~s ~hae
the ammunition had cost more than wha~ ~as ~xp~c~$d. ga4~~s said ~ha~ was ~Oe apr~clem ~nd Mikli~h said Har:1s paia Manes about SZ4.00 :n ~ash fjr ~he 2 Qoxes of~mm ~O. Manes asked Harris if h. was ~oin9 shoo~~nq that night as ~t was about9: 00 ? .m, liarris ceplied.. "nc , If:n qoi:lq snoat:inq t.omor:ow"'. ({arr:'.s tqld. >fanes that:h~ ~as jQ~nin~ the Ma~inea soon and ~~~oh said ~hat they t:~ed to talk ~m out ofenli3~~ng. Ha:ris left ~h. residence 'Ai~~ ~he ~o.
l~. en April 20, 1999, Miklich heard abQu~ ~~e incident occu~rinq at Col~1~e HighSchool and t=~ed to :each Mane$. When she :~nal1y contacted h~~ Manes told ~~lich
he wa~ ve~y upset because the media was showinq that gah:is and Kl~bolq had been~esponsible for the massacre. Manes 3aid ~hat he was ~or=~ed because he sold the TEe9 and ammo Co ~tho5e k~ds -Klebold and ~a;:~s". Miklich saLd t~at they both :eltve:y dis~=au9ht that they had pur~~ased ~~e 9mm ammo jUs~ ~~e n1ghc before forHar=ia.
16. On w~ril 21, 1999, Mikl1ch borrewed t~e Video ftom Manes which showa Ha~=i~,
Kl~hdldf Manes and Miklich shooting the ~i;earms used dur~nq the ma$sac=e ~t
col~~ne High School on April 20, 1999. ~klich said that it now bothered her aqreat deal to view thi~ video. ~klic~ saiq that Manes gave this videQ ~o hisattorney.
17. Mikli~~ provided the following info~tion about the relaeionshi? of Ph~l Duran toManes, Har~is and KlebQld~ Miklich said ~hat Duran had introduced Manes eo Har=isand Klebold at a Tanner gun show in Denver in January Q~ ~ebruary. The day ~hat theyall ~c is when Klebold later eontaet~d Manes and came to hi! residence. Mikl~ch
3a~d ehae Manes told her Klehol~ had paid half of ~he ~oney to Manes for ~~e ~EC 9.Two week$ late4~ the remaLnder of t~e money owed to Manes was p~ovided f=om Ou;anwho wa$ given the money from Harris and Klebold.
JC· 001-008178
DEPARTMENT OFTHE TREASURYauReAU OF AlCOHOl.. ToeACCO. ANO FIREARMS
REPORT OF INVeSTIGATIONIPage 1 of~ 1 1?a ee
ADDIIl!SSl!D TO:
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col~ine High School Shooein ICAlle NUMIlEIl:
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DO/Phoenix Field Division
Re?or~ of inteej~ew conducted w~th Benjamin Robe~~ Stephens, noe: 10/30/79, 1241 SWNor~ncrest Dr., Lictletou# CO, 80126, conducted on 5/7/99.
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1. On May 7, 1999, aC approximaCely 9:15 a.m., Benjamin Stephens was incerviewed at theJefferson County Sheriff'. Office Detention Facility in Golden, CO~ The internewwas condue~.d by Special Aqene Larry Krisl and Jefferson County Sheriff's OfficeInvest~gator Steve Luciano.
2. At approximately 2,20 a.m. on 5/7/99, Jefferson county DepuCy Sher~ff Purstycontacted a veh~cle parked at the O••~ czeek Canyon Open Space Park in $ou~hw.st
Jefferson Couney. The person occupying the vehicle was awakened by Deputy Puraty andinfo~d that the park was closed. Deputy Puraty reoeived identifioation from theoccupant indicating that his name '-as aenjarodn Robert Stephens, ooa, 1Q/30/79,Colorado OriverJ $ License 952al0487~ Stephens was occupying a blue, ~o~d Escort,bearing CO plateS 83195G.
3~ A cheek of tne eompu~erized c=Lmin41 hi$to~y indices showed an dutstandinq arrestwarrant for Stephens for ETA on Possession of Marijuana~ C.pu~y ?uraty placedStephens under arrest and asked him if there a~e any ~quns, knive$, weapons ordrugs" in the vehicle which Stephens occupied. Stephens advised the deputy thatehere was a rifle in the car. A. pat"clown search of Stephena revealed a paper flyerfor a Columbine benefit~ Inside Steohen's wallet was a busin.~3 card far Mark Manea.
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DePARTMENT OFTHErm;:ASURYBUI'l!!AU OF ALCOt<Ol. TOBACCO. AND FlI'lVl'lMS
REPORT OF INVES'11GAnoN - CominuatlDn ShMtPage Z of.2 Pa eS
4. The firea~ locatea in th.. rear area of the vehicl.. occupied ~y Stephens was in ablue pillow case with a plaioS'tic t:u.be I.round. it. The rj,fle was identified a:s a:High. ?o-int. tirea.J::::mS, Model 995, cal. 9mmx19, seria.l #AS4171 ~ Two maga.zines we.!:elocated with the fire.."'" aa w"ll as on& be" of Winch".ter 9Iom ,115 graio, full metaljacket with twen'ey rounds lll1uin'l'. Stephe"s produced a noeipt for the purchase ofthis fi.r..a~ on May 19, 1999, from the Bargain Bin in En'l'lewood, co for $214.50.The nna~ wu tak..n into evidence 01 Deputy Punty.
5. While ~einq era~po~~ad ~Q the Jefferson County Ceteneion Facility, Stephens toldDeputy Pur"ty that h" haa attended Columbine algI> School for a brief period before4~oppinq Que. Stephena said that he was ~=~ends with Dylan Klebold.
6. Deputy Puraty advise~ investiq.tor:s .e ~~. ~ask force of the a~30ciAeion of Ste~h.ns
to Klebold~ Manes and the posse. lion of the H1qh ?c1nt f1rea~.
7. At approximately 9,15 a.m. on 5/7/99, SA Kri.l ana JeSO tnve.t~qator Lucianointerviewed Stephens at the Jeff.rson CQun~1 OetenciQc :acil~ty. Stephens aqreed tocooperae. with inve~ci~acQr3 and anawe~ que5ti~n~ reqardinq the Columbineinve:st.1.qat:i.on.
a Stephens .aid that ne knew Dylan Klebold from attending Columbine H1gh Sehool.Seephena had ~opp.d cut of aehool because of an admitted ~~g abu•• probl-m.Stephen~ :ecently moved back to ColQrado from omaha, NE,approximately 2 weeks beforethe $hoot~n~ lnc~dent. S~.phens 3aid ~at: he had purchased the Kiih Poine earhlnefirearm on 5/19/99 ana had gone to the Rampart area to fire the r1fle. Stephens .aidthat he had f'::'red about 20 round.. through. t'...~e ri:le by snootinq it at the ground upin ehis area.
9. Stephens laid thae he knew Mark Mane4 41so from his aSloc~at~on with Klebold but didnot gave much else to 4ad ¢on~.rnin~ this assoeiaticn~ Stephens $a~d that he hadbeen in Boulde:# C~, on 5/20/99, and Qid not h4ve any di;ec~ invol~ene with the1l\c:ident_
10. Steph"n. told inve.tiqators that he wa••till.tight with the a.soeiateo of Kleeold4nd Ha~ri. and that the rumors beinq di~cuased a:e stronqly suqqestinq that otherpeople we~. def1n1eely involved in the incident. Stephens expressed a stronginter'1St:: in prQv1.d1nq any further iafomt1cn eQ l.nvest.iqato:3 in the futureregarding comments =ade by the associates about other 1ndiv14u.ls beinq involved.
11. Seephens was wearinq a black t-shir~ with the G.~ wordal ~E1~tuv%. nda neub&tonH which he s~.te~ was translated in Enq11.h to uO••eruceion of new building3R
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Stephens said that he uadersto~ there ~s , qreat deal of coin~d.nce with hisinvolvement to Kle))old and. Manes aa well as the pu.reha.se of a. Hiqh Foint carJ:>ine on.5/19/99.
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~~$CBZpt;OK or ACTXY4TJjcerview with Nathan Dykeman, an associate of Eric Harris and Dylan
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SYNOPSIS;On April 23, 1999, ATF Special Agents Richard Putnam and Jon Miotchell werecontacted by ATF Intelligence Officer Tristan Moreland in reference toconducting an interview with the fBI on Nachan l;lyk&lI'lll.n. Dykeman hadalready been interviewed and polygraphed by the FElI. Dykeman requescedanother interview with his biological facher present. The interview cookplace at the Super 8 Hotel on W. Jefferson Avenue, Lakewood. Colorado.
pltIAUVltOn April 23. 1998, ATF Special Agent Jon Mitchell and FBI Special Agent~aulecte Brundage interviewed Nathan Dykeman. D09/12-15-S0. social securitynumber a~O-5S-0235. Dykeman resides at 7973 W. Plymouth Place, Littleton,Colorado, telephone number 303-933-8460, with his mother Julie Good and his;;ItepEacher Victor Good. Present during the interview, was Dykeman'Sbiological father Matthew Jody Dykeman, 008/10-31-59, Florida driverslicense 0255-550-59-391-0. Matthew Dykeman resides at 3422 Pendleton Way,
Uld 0 Lakes, Florida, telephone number 813-996-5088. Matthew Dykemanexplained that he flew to Denver yesterday after Nathan Dykeman'sstepfather fliPPfld out on him. Nathan is currently staying with his
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biological father at the Super S Hotel. Matthew Dykeman provided copies tothe agents of American On Line documents he had printed off the computerrelating to Eric Ha~ris and Dylan IUebold. These documents were cuznedover to the li'BI agent. Nathan Dykeman gave the following information tothe agents.
Dykeman has not had American On t.ine (AOt.> for at least. a year. His AOt.screen name was "IceFuryXw. He used to exchange e-mail with £ric Harris. Henever exchanged e-mail with Dylan IUebold. Harris's E-mail address was"RebOornined at one time and he also used "RebOoomer". He does not ~~ow whatthey meant. Harris used the nickname "Rebd
• IUebold used the nickname"Vodka" and at one time used the nickname "Voodoom". On the AOt. dccumencsreceived from Matthew Dykeman, Harris uses the phrase "Let God Sort ItOut". This is a saying from a video game. Chris Morris's AOL name was"Grunt" with some numbers also associated with it. Dykeman does notremember the numbers because it has been a couple of yea.rs since he has.~~t anything to Morris.
The Columbine High School's prom was Saturday April 17, 1~99. Dykeman wentin a limo with other friends and their dates. The others includedDykeman's date Christine Epling, Dylan Klebold and his date Robin Anderson,Jessica Hughes and her date, who Dykeman did not know and does not re~~mber
his name, Kelly Brown and her date, who Dykeman did not know and did notknow his name, Janna (LNU) and her date, who Dykeman did not know and didnot know his name, and Monica (LNU) and her date, who Oykeman did not knowand did net. know his name. Dykeman did know .that Kelly Srown's date was inhis early 20's. Everyone met at Kelly Brown's house except Jessica and herdate and Janna and her date. The limo first went to Kelly's house and thenstopped at Janna's house and Jessica's house. At approximately 7:30 p.m.to 8:00 p.m., the limo dropped everyone off at Bella's, an Italianrestaurant downtown. During dinner, Klebold wanted to have a smoke, seDykeman and IUebold went outside. IUebold seemed. normal to Dykeman andtalked about his trip to Arizona he had just got back from. Klebold hadbeen accepted to a school in Arizona. ·Dinner lasted until 9:30 p.m. or10:00 p.m.
Eric Harris had tried to get a date, but was unable. He had asked a bunchof girls out but they t=ed him down. Dykeman had heard that he a.sked aBrandy (LNU) who was in Harris's and his video class, a Sabrina Cooley, and
:<atie (LNU), who is a. sophomore or Junior. Ha=is' friend Mike Vendaneya.(He was not sure of spelling) would know more about this. oykeman is notsure if Ha.=is asked out a Susan ILNU), but he spent the night of prom with
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her up until Harris showed up at the After Prom Party. Mike might know herla.st name~
Between 10:00 p.m. and 10:30 p.m., the limo dropped Dykeman and the othersin the limo off at the dance, which was at the DenveX' Design C..nter.Dykeman did not talk to or see Klebold at the dance afteX' they were droppedoff. Dykeman hung around his friend Tim Kastle. The dance was over atmidnight at which time they all returned to the limo. The limo stopped atJessica's house and Janna's house then dropped Dykeman and the rest of themoff at Kelly's house. Everyone then changed into jeans and took thai:\::' owncars to the AfteX' PX'om Party at Columbine High School. The After PromParty is like a carnival that the parents put on for the students to keepthem off the road on prom night. The After prom paX'ty lasted from midnightto 5:00 a.m. Klebold and his date Robin Anderson took her car to theparty. HeX' car is a 2 door lighe blue Honda.. Dykeman believes that theca~ is a late 80'S o~ ea~ly SO's CRX. Dykeman and Christine were ae thep-~y for app~oximately 45 minutes before they saw Klebold and Robin at the• .e black jack tables that wel;e !ilet up. Dykeman socialized some withChris Morris and his date Nicole (L.VU). Dykeman saw Eric Harris about12:30 p.m. at the party. Dykeman did noe see Harl;is or Klebold leave anddid not !ilee them after about 2:00 a.m., which is a rough guess by Dykeman.Dykeman hung around Tim Kasele and Christine most of the night. Dykeman andChriseine were some of the last people to leave. Oykeman and Christine wentto Denny's restaurant with an Alisa Se~~er and a De~ek (LNU) afeer theparty. After b~eakfast Christine and Dykeman went up to the mountain towatch the sun rise. Cn the way to ehe mauneains they wene by Klebold'shouse. Oykeman does net; ~emember wheeher Klebold' s ca~ was there. Dykemanpointed ehe house out to Christine. Oykeman was driving his dads black FordExplore~. Dykeman's own car is a 1975 Ford F-2S0 piok up .truck. Christinehad to be home by 7,00 a.m. Sunday morning because she had 1:0 play the.bells for 3 church services. Dykeman slept at Christine's house while shewem: to church. Dykeman went to ehe 3"'" church service. Dykeman andChristine went back to his house after ohu~ch. Christine slept whileDykeman returned his euxedo and got some Kentucky Fried Chicken forChrietine and him. At approximal:ely li:OO p.m., Dykeman and Chriseine wenteo her house, SO she could do heX' hOllll!:woX'k. After Christ.ine finished herhomework, they watched some television until approximately 10:00 p.m. to10,15 p.m. when Dykeman went: home. When he got home his stepfather andmother were there. Oykeman had no contact with Ha=is or Klebold after ehe
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On Monday April lSi, 19S1S1, at approximately 6,15 a.m., Oykeman arrived athis bowling class at the Bellview Bowling Alley. The class starts at 6:30a.m. Chris Morris, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, and Dustin Gordin are in theclass with Dykeman. Gordin is a friend of Dykeman and an associate ofHarris and Klebold. Morris, Harris, and Klebold were all in bowling classthat morning. They did not talk much about the prom. At approximately 7;15a.m., Klabold, Harris, Morris, Gordin and Dykeman went to the King Soopersnear Pierce and Coal Mine. Morris drove separate, Klebold. and Harris drovetogether, Gordin drove separate, and Dykeman drove separate to KingSoopers. Gordin drives a Green and primer 1974 Chevrolet Chevelle.Klebold'5 car is an early ao's black BMW. Harris' car is a gray 1989 HeneaPrelude. Dykeman is not sure what car Harris and Klebold Were in that day.At apprOXimately 8:00 a.m., Oykeman headed to school. Harris had. videoclass with Dykeman at Columbine High School. This was Dykeman'S secondclass after bowling.v~rris kept falling asleep in video class and the teacher told him to go to
~ nurse's office to sleep. Dykeman's third class was gym and Harris'third class was philosophy. Dykeman'S 4~ class was creative writing.Harris and Klebold have thiS class with him. The teacher did not arrive ontime to open up the class, so Rarris and Klebold skipped class. After hiscreative writing class, Oykeman went home for lunch. Harris and Kleboldusually leave during lunch time. He thinks they might go to Black Jack'sPizza for lunch. BOth his stepfather and mother were home when he gotthere. Oykeman got back to school around 11:50 a.m. He saw Christine andwalked t$ psychology class with her. Both Harris's and Klebold's cars werein the parking lot in their assigned spots. Dykeman also saw the cars inthe parking lot before lunch. Harris, Klebold, Kastle, Nick Foss, Oykeman,Christine, and Sabrina (LNO) were in this class. This is the same Sabrinawhich Harris had asked out to prom. According to Dykeman, Kastle is onethe students that was held at gun point during the incident. After thisclass, which ends at 12,40 p.m., Oykeman is finished with school for theday. He works at the Firestone at Pierce and canyon, and had to be there toclock in by 1;00 p.m. He finished work between 6:00 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.Dykeman thinks he went home and showered before going over to Christine'Shouse. He got to Christine'S at approximately 7,00 p.m. He leftChristine's house between 10:00 p.m. ~nd 10;30 p.m. He went home and saidgood night to his mother and stepfather and went to bed .
. Tuesday April 20, 1SI9Sl, Dykeman and Morris got to bowling claslS atapproximately 6:00 a.m. Harris and Klebold never showed up. After classMorris went to McDonald'lI tor breakfast. Oykeman went to the video room at
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columbine High School to see if anyone was there thae mighe want to go toKing Soopers with him for breakfast. No one was in the video room, so hewent eo King soopers by himself. He sat in the parking lot at King sooperseating and listening to his car stereo. He got to school at approximately8,00 a.m. and talked to the video eeacher for awhile. Harris and Kleboldnever showed up for class. Kastle was in class. Harris and Klebold did notshow up for creative writing claSS either. At lunch time Oykeman walked tothe parking loe where he $aw Christine. Christine drove off in her car. AsDykeman drove out of the senior parking lot, he saw Harris walking towardsthe double doors leading inco the cafeteria. By the direction Harris wasgoing, it appeued eo Dykeman thae Huri$ might have come from the juniorparking lot. Dykeman did not see or look for Harris's car in the parkinglot. Harris had on a black trench coat, dark sunglasses, and was carryingsomething in his left hand, possibly his black oomputer bag. Robin Andersonparks her car in ehs senior parking lot, but in the corner next to thejunior lot. Dykeman does noe remember seeing a back pack or anything elser-ing carried on Harris' back. Dykeman said he was not positive it was
.ris, but was pretty sure. Dykeman went to lunch ae his house. His motherand stepfather were there. He headed back to the school at apprOXimately11:40 a.m. He has to be in class at 11:50 a.m. When Dykeman got ec Pierceand Coal Mine, he noticed fire tr~cks and thought there was an accident.Oykeman eried to go around another way to get to the schcol, but there weremore police and could not get through. He flashed his lights and got thisgirl he knows who was driving in front of him to stop. She told him thattwo men with trench coats wene ineo the school shooting. Dykema.~ said hegot a feeling that it could be Harris and Kleoold. Dykeman turned his cararound and headed towards home. He saw Christine driving and waved to he t:
to follow. They drove to his house. Dykeman told his parents it could beHarris and Klebold that were the gun men. Oykeman, his mother, hisstepfather and Christine watched the television and the school from thesecond floor deck. Dykeman called Klebold's dad at home. Klebold's dad is ageologist and works out of his home. Dykeman asked Klebold' s dad if he had.seen Dylan. Klebold' s father said that Dylan was at school. Dykemaninformed Klebold's dad that Dylan had not been at schcof, all day and whaehe had heard about the shooting.
Klebold is involved in a Fantasy Baseball game with Andrew aea~d; AdamSands, Cliff Andrus, Chad Laughlin, and Tim Kalllele. Dykeman was involvedlast year and won the money pool. Fantasy Baseball is all done on papa..
d involves drafting players and keeping score by how well the realplayers do thae season. Chad Laughlin runs the gallle and his telephonenumber is 347-2421. Kastle's telephone number is 932-1936. Dykeman does
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not know the others telephone numbers.
About two weeks prior to the shooting, Dykeman saw Harris with a video intheir video claSS. The video was of Harris, Klebold, Phil Duran, Duran'sbest friend Mark (LNU), and Mark (LNU) gidfr:i.end, who Dykeman does notknow and doeS not know her name. Duran, Mark, and the girlfr:i.end are allin their twenties. Dykeman knows Duran because he used to deliver to theBlack. Jack when Dyk.eman worked there. Harris was edi ting che tape, whenDykeman heard sun fire. Oykeman walked over to Harris and inqul.red aboutthe video. Harris told him that he and the people in the video wene upshooting in Rampart, which is somewhere up North. Harris and Klebold wereshooting a double barrel sawed off shotgun, a pump acci.cn shoegun, and asemi automatic pistol similar to an UZI. Phil and Mark were shooting asemi automatic assault type rifle whi~~ was all black. Dykeman already knewthat the UZI type pistol and the double barrel shotgun belonged eo Kleboldfrom earlier conversation they had. Harris told him the pump action shotgun~. ~ his. Mark and the girlfriend were also shooting a large semi-automatic~ ~tol. Dykeman watched the video for about S minutes. Dykeman believesthat Harris WQuld have made the Video With a school oamera he had oheckedout. Aooording to Dykeman, Gary Tallocoo (Dykeman not sure of spelling) thevideo eeaoher had to know about the video and other students saw the videoinoluding Mike Vendaneya. Duran is over 6 feet tall, with longer dark hair,no facial hair, and no earrings. Duran drives a mid 90's black Ford TaurusSHO With tented windOWS. Duran is at least 20 and is a Columbine highschool drop out. Mark (LNUI is a biker type, medium heighc, medium build,with lOI1!T straggly dark brown or black hair. He possibly has a go-tee.Mark's girlfriend was short and thin with long derk hair. Harris editedthis video for a oouple weekS and also made another video for a classprojeot. Klebold, Harris, Vendaneya, and Eric Vike, Were in the seoondvideo. The seoond Video shOWed the four of them driving up to Vendaneya'shouse in vike's oar, whioh is possibly a Pontiac Grand Am. The four get outof the oar and pullout what Dykeman believed to be fake guns, BS guns, andpossibly real guns out of the trunk of the oar. The four then have amission briefing, before going into the house hunting possessed clothes.Harris took gun shot sounds from the first video and dubbed them into thesecond videO, which was shown to the class for a grade.
One day in December 1998 or January 1999, Dykeman went to Black Jaoks for'·'nch. He was still wo~king at Black Jacks at this time. ~hil Ouran was out
.::k talking to Klebold. Dykeman saw Klebcld pa.y Duran what Dykemanbelieves to be about $100.00 in twenty dollar bills. Dykeman was standingabout 10 to 15 feet awa.y When this happened. Dykeman asked Klebold about
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'"',. ".'the money after Duran left because he thought it was for dxugs. Dykemandoes not tolerate drug use with his friends and stated he would go to afl:'iends parents if -he knew they were doing drugs. Klebold told Dykemanthat he had bought a shotgun and a piscol from Duran. Klebold told Dykemanthat the tIZI type pistol W'lllil a 9mm. Klebold was seventeen at this time. andDykeman asked why he didn't wait till he was eighteen to buy the firearms.Klebold told him he really wanted them. He said he had been saving hismoney for awhile. KlebOld nevel:' had any money to do anything with Oykemanfor about six montha prior to thiS, because Klebold was saving his money.Klebeld cold Oykeman that he was the only person he had told ocher than
~. 1!arris. He had nee even told b.is hesc friend Zach Heckler. Klebold andHeckler were net as close at this time because Heckler had a girlfriend andwent his separate ways. Klebold told Dykeman noe to cell anyone. iUeboldtold him it was his second payment and he had paid the bulk of the moneyalready, which was a couple hundred dollars. Klebold told Dykeman thatHarris was w1th him when he got the guns. KIebold told Dykeman that he hadr->; purchased any other guns. Harris had told Klebold that he could get'- ,1S from Duran and his friend Mark (L..'I1J'). Dykeman believes it was on aweekend before a gun show in December 1998, that Harris ment10ned that heand Klebold were going to a gun show with Duran. It was a local gun show.but Harr1s did not mention the name of the shew. Oykeman never heard anytalk about going to a gun store. Klebold told Dykeman that his parentswould not find the firearma buried in his dirty clothes 1n his closet.Dykeman did not know whe sawed off the shotgun Klebeld purchased.
Dykeman aces not know how Harris got his pump action shotgun. Harr1s wentto the surplus store on Broadway a lot to shop. Dykeman does not ~~ow
where Harris kept his shotgun and only knew he had one after seeing thevideo. Dykeman never saw any Glock firearms or heard any talk of any Glockfirearms. He never heard any talk of purchasing ammunition either.
In the beginning of the Summer of 1997, Dykeman went with Harris andKlabold to a culvert that ran under Wadsworth between Ken Caryl andChatfield Reservoir. They lic off a C02 device that Harris had made out ofa C02 cartridge he filled with black powder and stuck a fireworks fuse in.The device also had gray duct tape on it. A few days after this Dykemanwas with Klebeld when he drilled out some C02 cartridges to make themeasier to fill with powder. Klebold did this because Harris had told himit was hard to fill t:hem with powder having the smaller hole. Oykeman
inks Klebold drilled one or two of C02 devices.
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IDykeman saw a coffee can containing black powder in Harris' bedroom aroundthe end of the Summer of 1997. Harris kept the can on a shelf on top ofhis desk. lQ.ebold;me. Hattis worked fer a Firework", stand at: the corner ofPlatte Canyon and Kendall that summer. They received un",old fireworks aspart of their pay. They took the powder out of the fireworks and put it inthe coffee can. Oykeman also saw approximately 50 feet of green cannon fusecoiled up and hanging on liattis' wall. OylHman thinkJI Hattis bought thefuse at Old Glory, which is a fireworks warehouse in norchern Denver.Harris told Dykeman that the fuse burns at so many inohes a seoond. Dykemandid nee see any pipes at this tillle. Harris always had fireworks and allguns as long as Dykeman has known him.
In che Fall of 1997, Harris cold Dykeman that his mother had found a pipebomtl in his closet. Harris told Dykeman that his father put the pipe bombin hiill (Father's) closet because he did J:1,Ot know what to do with it.Harris took Dykeman to his parents closet and showed him the pipe bomb. Itw~~ approximacely 2 inches in diameter and apprOXimately 8 inches in4 geh. It had a green fuse coming out the end with gray duct tape on it.Dyke~~ is not sure why he used the duct tape. A couple weeks after thisDykeman Saw one or two more pipe bombs in a shce box in Harris' closet. Oneof them was about 1 inch in diameter and about 8 inches in length. If therewas another pipe bomb, Dykeman said it was skinnier. Harris told DykemL~
during the time Dykeman saw the firillt pipe bomtl that he l:>ought the pipe ata hardware store on Wadsworth.
In the Fall of 1997, c.~is Morris and Dykeman we;e at Slack Jacks duringthe school lunch break. Harris and Klebold were there with another C02device. Harris had found some white powder in some fireworks that hewanted to exper:i.ment with. Harris lit the device and threw it: down a pipebehind alack Jacks. 1'h:i.s one was louder than the previous one they had lit.
A cQuple of days after the 1998 Superbowl, Harris told Dykeman that Kleboldand he went to Deer Creek Canyon and Wadsworth and lit off a pipe bomb.Harris told Dykeman that it made a large noise and blew off a couple chunksof rock.
Harris and Klebold told Dykeman sometime around the Summer of 1998, orearlier that they had set off a pipe bomb in a field down off Wadsworth,somewhere south of 470. Klebold and Dykeman never talked about any timing
rices for the pipe bombs. Both Klebold and Oykeman had 'read theAnarchist Cookl:look: off the Internet. Dykeman saw it on Klebold' ill compu.terand lQ.ebold mentioned that he sent it to Harris. 'l'h:i.s was around the Summer
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Dykeman mee Harris in Sp~ish olass in eighth grade, afeer Oykeman moved toLittleton. Klebold ~d Harris were already friends before this.
Dykeman and Harris once had a falling out over Oykeman's girlfriendChristine. Christine had w~ted to date Harris, but he was not interested,so Dykeman as~d hel:' OUt. On thel:'e first date Hal:'ris tried to causetrouble and they had a falling out over this fol:' a while.
Harris and Klebold had the list of everyone's locker and combinations atColumbine High School. Klebold had haoked into the sohools computer in hissophomol:'e or junior year. Students keep their same locker through all thegrades. Harris and Klebold oould have made trips in and out of school allday long because they are students tb.ere.
-qr Agent Brundage asked Dykeman the following names eo see if he knew.lem:
-- --- - Did not know.- Fl:'iend of but he does not really kncw .
had problems with him in the past.Robin Anderson - Always wanted to go out with Klebold. but he never
had Ii girlfriend.- Son of one of the teachers at Columbine High School.
and he are good friends.- Not a friend of Klebold, Harl:'is, orUt......
Sest friend is Brian Seargant.- Knowa name, but can't place the face.
The only fake identification that Dykeman knew anyone had was ChadLaughlin.
Attachments: Copies of AOL Documents.
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