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DESC mtg U Penn 11-13 June, 2012 Computing Infrastructure Computing Parallel Session R.Dubois [email protected]

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Computing Infrastructure. R.Dubois [email protected]. Potential Work Areas. Management of simulations Sources of cycles Manpower to run them workflow engine to minimize effort? Managing the data that results: catalogue and access Look at usability of tools - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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DESC mtg U Penn 11-13 June, 2012

Computing Infrastructure

Computing Parallel Session

[email protected]

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Potential Work Areas

• Management of simulations– Sources of cycles– Manpower to run them

• workflow engine to minimize effort?– Managing the data that results: catalogue and access

• Look at usability of tools– Connection between cosmo sims and ImSim– Harnesses, config tools for running ImSim– Long term support for ImSim?

• Collaborative tools: foster communications and sharing– Forum, wiki

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Managing Simulations

• Clusters at collaboration sites• Grid cycles• John asking for 3 FTEs to run sims

• Data catalogue to track simulated data– Probably no off-the-shelf tool currently to track data across arbitrary

sites and provide access tools– Examples from Fermi:

• Catalogue – being adapted to LSST camera test data as demo• Workflow engine – web based submission/tracking tool

– Central submission to multiple sites with addition of simple interface to local batch system

– Being used at SLAC for ImSim runs now as demo

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Catalogue Example

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Example Work Flow Engine

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Running ImSim

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User Friendliness:• 10 CPU-hrs per visit• Several steps

Understand DM tools:• Best path to catalogues

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ImSim Usability Aids

• Have a recipe for running – needs user intervention between steps– Can we streamline the recipe?

• Might the code benefit from profiling? May be some low hanging fruit to make it go faster than 10 hrs per visit?

• Might not be hard to keep a repository of compiled versions of ImSim for popular OSes– Fetch everything needed via an installer

• If we hope for a broader developer community– Maybe look at packaging and internals to enable/encourage new

developers to get involved

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Collaborative Tools

• Common repository for collaboration code– Can create a mix of “user contributions” which can evolve into a

collection of integrated tools in the same repository

• Ease of collaboration:– Use a forum for discussion

• More powerful than mailing lists

• Use good wiki tool for sharing and discussing documents, analyses etc

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Some Open Questions

• Can there be a common framework defined for analysis tools? At what level? FITS atomic model with files as interfaces? What does LSST project framework look like? Can/should it be emulated?

• Should there be common tools defined for things like plotting etc?• Any connection to other surveys? How to share/store other surveys'

data?• What about manpower for supporting all this?• Analysis tasks & systematics session• Verification & Validation of project pipelines• Plea for cross experiment computing resources• What is 'deliverable' for systematics studies? Could there be data flow

diagrams to help identify any?• Non-ImSim sims??

– Need fast sim capability

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