debriefing - mock session 8 -11 september...

Health and Consumers

Eva Zamora Escribano European Commission

Debriefing - Mock session

8 -11 September 2015

DG Health and Food Safety

Our Objective

“Enhance participants capacity to contribute effectively to Codex work”

Develop national positions

Present and defend our national positions

Negotiate


Your Expectations

Improve knowledge about Codex

Effective participation in Codex

Understand Codex structure and its functioning

Effective representation of a country in Codex

Implementation of Codex Standards

Knowledge to develop Codex Standards

Improve negotiation techniques


DAY 1

Annamaria


Social events


Codex Committee on Milk and Milk Products (CCMMP)

20th Session - Hosted by Red Country

in Red City from 8-11 September 2015


Red country


Yellow country


Blue country


Green country


Orange country


FOMP


NHF Strong views !!


Tutors


NEGOTIATE


Agenda

Red excellent referred to CRD 1 New work to be discussed Yellow: 2 items under AOB definition of fresh milk screening methods to detect melamine

Perfect and creative

Conclusion and clarifications by Chair


Matters Referred


Matters Referred

3 options !!! Deletion

Keep Annexes Move provisions to

main text!!

Red, Orange, NHF option 3 Yellow , Blue Green, FOMP option 2, second text

All clear and justified, supporting previous interventions Well done follow discussions, ask for clarification !!! Observer not to oppose take note

The difficult task of the Chair

Codex secretariat: information documents

Blue, Yellow, Orange and Green supports good

justification Red CLARIFICATON !! FOMP / NHF INSIST !!

NOTE IN REPORT GUIDANCE


Matters Referred

Conclusion: completely new option to include the provisions of the Annexes in an information document !!!


Codex Standard for Fermented Milks

- SCOPE: wide vs restricted

• Heat treated? Composite?

• Chair of EWG clarifying!!

• GI proposing alternatives

• PROPOSAL BY CHAIR SUPPORTED:

• - NOT APPLIED TO LABNEH,

• - HEAT TREATED BUT ADDRESSED IN OTHER SECTIONS

• COMPOSITE PRODUCTS INCLUDED !!

• NO RESERVATIONS !!!



- DESCRIPTION microorganisms, starting cultures, heat treatment, % non-dairy ingredients,

• Point of sale !!! Other options also proposed …finding compromise , new note….

• Labneh deleted !!!!



• - ESSENTIAL,COMPOSITION AND QUALITY FACTORS

• Use gelatine, starches:

• To be discussed at next session


Standard for Fermented Milks

• - FOOD ADDITIVES Reference to GSFA /specific

list of FA? SWEETENERS? In which products?

• Industry =Consumers ???

• Technical Justification CCMMP endorsed by CCFA

• To be discussed at next session, EWG


• - LABELLING : general requirements specific

provisions, Misleading consumers /Special

group of consumers, country of origin….

• CHANGING THE ORDER OF DISCUSSIONS !!

Standard for Fermented Milks


The Outcome !!!

Adoption of the standard Step 5

No progress? Back to Step 2

Sections 3 and 4 opened for

discussion EWG CHAIRED BY RED


Item 4 Proposal for new work

- Standard for Super Cheese Orange

Project Document discussed and submitted

to CAC NEW EWG ESTABLISHED CHAIRED

BY ORANGE

- Standard for Wonderland Cheese Yellow

MORE CONTROVERSIAL, PROJECT

DOCUMENT INCOMPLETE….NEXT TIME !!!

Comments in CRDs by Yellow and Green


Item 4 Proposal for new work

Codex Standard for Dairy Permeate Powders

Project document developed !!! A very busy

delegation

Congratulations to FOMP !!!

RED an excellent hosting country, well done all procedures followed


ANY OTHER BUSINESS

• 2 proposals by Yellow, included in CRD 2

• - Definition of Fresh Milk

• - Screening Methods to detect melamine intentional contamination


The Adoption of the Report

• Drafted by the Codex Secretariat and adopted by the Committee

• Sometimes very difficult discussions

• Short… but reflecting outcome of Committee Discussions cannot be re-opened

• Reservations noted


The Chair

Talk to the Chair


Codex Secretariat: The Guardian of the Procedural Manual...

Do not panic Annamaria is here !!

Clarification, consistency, alternatives


CONSENSUS

No consensus to define consensus!

•You are not fully happy but you can

live with the outcome


Miracles?


Mock session

- All delegations were very active : well done !!

-Excellent and clear justifications when

presenting positions

- 3 CRDs issued: well done Red, Yellow and

Green

-Very clear interventions following questions by

the Chair and asking for clarification


Mock session

- When and How many times I can intervene….

- Please wait until the Chair gives you the floor

!!!

-Long or short interventions…be aware of time

restrictions !!!

- Speak on behalf of your country/organisation

- Members first !!


Mock session

- Agree because…my position is

- Following the discussion…listen the

Chair

- NO Compromise NO CONSENSUS

- Look for win-win situations

- Sense of humour


Mock session

- YOU WERE GREAT !!!!

- WELL PREPARED

- ENGAGED

- CONSTRUCTIVE

- IT LOOKED REAL


With Special thanks to


Thanks to our hosting country and FAO


Thanks for your active and constructive

participation!

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