deficit negotiations and the supercommittee ron haskins october 19, 2011
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Deficit Negotiations and the Supercommittee
Ron HaskinsOctober 19, 2011
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The Unsustainable Fiscal Path, 2010-2080
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Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
Medicare, Medicaid, Exchange Subsidies,
and CHIP
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Average Federal Revenue, 1970-2009
Year
Perc
ent o
f GD
P
Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Supplemental Data for the Congressional Budget Office's Long-Term Budget Outlook (June 2010),” available at http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/115xx/doc11579/LTBO-2010data.xls.Note: Based on the Alternative Fiscal Scenario.
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Spending and the Deficit as a Percentage of GDP in 2010, 2020, and
2050
Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Supplemental Data for the Congressional Budget Office's Long-Term Budget Outlook (June 2010),” available at http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/115xx/doc11579/LTBO-2010data.xls.Notes: Based on the Alternative Fiscal Scenario. The all other noninterest category includes defense spending. The separate defense category is assumed to grow at the same rate as GDP.
Defense Social Security Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and Exchange
Subsidies
All Other Noninterest Net Interest Deficit0
5
10
15
20
25
30
4.8 4.8 5.1
12.9
1.4
9.4
4.8 5.26.5
10.4
3.8
6.6
4.85.9
12.4
10.4
16.5
26.0
Perc
ent o
f GDP
2010
2020
2050
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Overview of Presentation
• Sources of Debt• Preconditions for Action• The Debt Ceiling Deal• Taking Action: Social Security, Medicare, Tax
Increases• Public Support for Action
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Causes of Increased U.S. Debt: Spending, Economic Estimates, Tax Cuts, 2001-
2011
New Spending Economic Estimates Tax Cuts0
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2
3
4
5
6
4.9
4.1
3.5
Co
ntr
ibu
tio
n t
o D
ebt
($ T
rill
ion
s)
Source: Pew, “10 Essential Fiscal Charts,” 2011
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Causes of Increased U.S. Debt: Spending and Tax Cuts by Category, 2001-
2011
0.00
0.40
0.80
1.20
1.601.70
1.39 1.33 1.26
0.73 0.69 0.66
0.27
0.02
Spending on Tax Category
Co
ntr
ibu
tio
n t
o D
ebt
($ T
rill
ion
s)
Source: Pew, “10 Essential Fiscal Charts,” 2011
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Taking Action: Preconditions
• Public recognition that deficits are a problem• Public willingness to pay new taxes and accept
spending cutbacks• Everything on the table• Bipartisanship• Presidential Leadership
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Actions Necessary to Get to Debt/GDP Ratio of 60 Percent by 2021
Discretionary Only
Mandatory Only
All Spending Income Taxes Only
All Revenues Spending Cuts and Revenue Increases
05
101520253035404550 46
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15
36
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Source of Deficit Reduction
Pe
rce
nta
ge
Ch
an
ge
in
Sp
en
din
g
-
- +
Note: Current policy baseline; $6.1 trillion deficit reduction in 2021 (assuming tranche 1 of debt ceiling agreement has been achieved, $917 billion cut). Source: Pew, “10 Essential Fiscal Charts,” 2011.
-
+
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August Debt Ceiling/Deficit Reduction Package
• Raise Debt Ceiling (up to $2.4 trillion)• Deficit Reduction of $917 Billion• Establish Supercommittee to Reduce Deficit by
Additional $1.5 or $1.2 Trillion
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What Republicans and Democrats Wanted Out of Budget
DealGot What They Wanted?
What They Wanted Democrats Republicans
Cuts in Defense Yes No
No Cuts in Big Entitlements Yes No
No Tax Increases No Yes
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Impact of Debt Ceiling Deal on Increase in the Federal Debt, 2012-
2021
Extended Policy Baseline After Debt Ceiling Deal0
2
4
6
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14
11.628
9.511
Incr
ease
to
th
e D
ebt
in T
rill
ion
s
Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Summary Data for the Alternative Fiscal Scenario,” from Long Term Budget and Economic Outlook (June, 2011) and “Table 3: Effect on the Deficit of the Budget Control Act of 2011,” from Impact of the Budget Control Act of 2011 (August 1, 2011).
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Discretionary Spending Caps
• 10 Years; $917 Billion• Half Domestic; Half Defense/Security• Firewall Between Domestic and Defense (2012
only)• Action So Far
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Impacts of Debt Ceiling Cuts on Defense Spending, 2012-2021
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 20210
100
200
300
400
500
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700
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900
1,000
712 724 738 753 769 786 806 826 847 869 891
700 650 661 675 689 705 722 739 756 773
CBO BaselineBaseline with Debt Ceiling Cuts, Round 1Baseline with Debt Ceiling Cuts, Rounds 1 and 2
Year
Sp
end
ing
(B
illi
on
s)
Note: Figures are in budget authority.Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Table 1-6: Illustrative Paths for Discretionary Budget Authority Subject to Caps in Budget Control Act” and “Table 1-5: CBO Baseline Projections of Discretionary Spending,” from CBO Budget and Economic Outlook: An Update (August, 2011) and “Table 1: Estimated Savings from Automatic Reductions,” from Estimated Impact of Automatic Budget Enforcement Procedures Specified in the Budget Control Act (September, 2011).
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Impacts of Debt Ceiling Cuts on NonDefense Spending, 2012-2021
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 20210
100
200
300
400
500
600
700
511 528 538 550 562 576 590 606 622 639 656
505467 478 489 500 511 524 538 552 564
CBO BaselineBaseline with Debt Ceiling Cuts, Round 1Baseline with Debt Ceiling Cuts, Rounds 1 and 2
Year
Sp
end
ing
(B
illi
on
s)
Note: Figures are in budget authority.Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Table 1-5: CBO Baseline Projections of Discretionary Spending,” and “Table 1-6: Illustrative Paths for Discretionary Budget Authority Subject to Caps in Budget Control Act” from Budget and Economic Outlook: An Update (August, 2011) and “Table 1: Estimated Savings from Automatic Reductions,” from Estimated Impact of Automatic Budget Enforcement Procedures Specified in the Budget Control Act (September, 2011).
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Overview of Supercommittee
• Goal: $1.5 B, 10 Years (begin 2013)• 12 Members (6 Rs; 6 Ds)• Due Dates:
– Report to Congress: November 23– Congress Vote on Proposal: December 23– Up or Down Vote; No Filibuster; No
Amendments– If Fail; Sequester Triggered
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Taking Action:
• Social Security Reforms• Medicare Reforms• Tax Increases
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Taking Action: Social Security Reforms
Increase the Payroll Tax by 1 Percentage Point in 2012
Increase the Payroll Tax by 3 Percentage Points Over 20 Years
Tax Covered Earnings Above the Taxable Minimum; Do Not Increase Benefits
Reduce PIA Factors to Index Initial Benefits to Prices Rather Than Earnings
Lower Initial Benefits to Top 70 Percent of Earners
Index Earnings in the AIME and Bend Points in the PIA Formula to Prices
Raise the Full Retirement Age to 70
Reduce COLA by 0.5 Percentage Points
0 20 40 60 80 100 120
30
50
90
100
50
60
30
30
Percentage Improvement in Actuarial Balance
Source: Congressional Budget Office, “Summary Figure 1,” in Social Security Policy Options, summary (2010).
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Annual Average Real Growth in GDP and in Health Expenditures
Note: The 2000s consist of 2000-2009.Sources: Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, "Table 1: National Health Expenditures Aggregate, Per Capita Amounts, Percent Distribution, and Average Annual Percent Growth: Selected Calendar Years: 1960-2009," NHE Web Tables; Bureau of Economic Analysis," Table 1.2.4 Price Indexes for Gross Domestic Product by Major Type of Product," National Income and Product Account Tables.
1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s0
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5.7%
6.5%
4.5%4.3%4.2%
3.2% 3.2%3.4%
1.5%
Average Annual Real Health Expenditure Growth
Average Annual Real GDP Growth
Per
cen
t G
row
th
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Taking Action: Medicare Reform Premium Support• Service Areas• Mandatory Health Care Services• Open Market; Bids from Any Entity• Central Clearing House• Setting Annual Premium Amounts• Adjustments to Premium
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Taking Action: Reducing Tax ExpendituresItem Cost (in Billions)
Mortgage Interest $93.8
Property Taxes on Real Property $22.8
Capital Gains on Sales of Principle Residences $16.5
Reduced Rates of Dividends / Long-Term Capital Gains $84.2
Capital Gains at Death $31.7
Investment Income on Life Insurance $25.7
Charitable Contributions $34.5
Employer Contributions for Health Care, Health Premiums $117.3
EITC $52.4
State Taxes $43.6
Total = $522.5 Billion
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Polls: The Deficit Is Top Priority
2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 20100
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
35
40 51
56
55
5358
53 60
Year
Per
cen
t W
ho
Say
Def
icit
Is
To
p
Pri
ori
ty
Source: Pew Research Center for the People & The Press, various years.
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Polls: Public Support for Sacrifice
Yes No0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
36%
61%
Willing Not Will-ing
Some, But Not Others
Don't Know/
No An-
swer
-10%
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
27%
67%
5%
1%
Willing Not Willing Don't Know/No Answer-10%
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
52%
44%
4%
Source: Gallup, April 2011. Source: CBS News Poll, January 2011. Source: CBS News Poll, January 2011.
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Polls: Willingness To Cut Specific Programs
Social security payments
Federal aid to education
Health care
Revenue sharing with states and cities
Federal highway financing
Federal jobs programs
Federal aid to cities
Spending for mass transportation
Pollution control
The food stamp program
Defense spending
Federal housing programs
Federally funded scientific research programs
Farm subsidies
Subsidies to business
Federal welfare spending
Space programs
Spending by the regulatoryagencies generally
Foreign military aid
Foreign economic aid
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
11
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24
28
31
33
34
35
37
40
41
41
42
42
51
51
54
56
69
75
Percent Supporting Specific Cuts
Source: Harris Interactive Poll, January 17 – 27, 2011