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Slides from Locality's Diseconomies of Scale webinar on how we could save £16bn a year if we made public service delivery local, targeted and effective.

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Poll 1Which sector are you

from?

* Public* Private* Third* None (Individual)

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Poll 2Do you believe that scale

in public services delivers….

* Lower costs* Little difference* Higher costs

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Poll 3Do you believe that scale

in public services delivers….

* Lower quality* Little difference* Higher quality

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Diseconomy of Scale

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Locality’s interest

• Experience of our Members over many years

• Introduction of Work Programme

• Myths about economy of scale – esp in services

“immutable law of economics”• Lack of any real evidence base

• Encouragement from others

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© Vanguard Consulting Ltdwww.vanguard-method.com

Vanguard and Locality: Having a common Purpose

• An informed recognition that Public services work poorly

• Vanguard brings its experience of working with organisations in all sectors to transform service delivery, reducing costs by solving peoples problems.

• An understanding, based on knowledge of these systems, that the mantra that big services and scale are cheaper and more effective is flawed.

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Questions?

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Methodology

• Third sector experienceo Financial data from 139 VCS

organisations aspiring to deliver public serviceso Survey responses from 96 VCS organisationso Follow up depth interviews with 9 cases

• End-user experience

o Analysis of thousands of demands presented on the system, using “Vanguard Method” techniques

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© Vanguard Consulting Ltdwww.vanguard-method.com

The Vanguard Method

• Change starts by studying, getting knowledge of the “what and why” of performance as a system (we never start change with a “plan”)

• It studies services end-to-end

• It understands service-user demands, following them through the services in order to understand how and how well the services work.

• It identifies the system conditions that hinder achievement of purpose from the services users perspective.

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© Vanguard Consulting Ltdwww.vanguard-method.com

Ruth's experienceLearning the What and why from the service users perspective :

What mattered to Ruth:

“ I need help with

housework ”

“ I need help with

housework ”

“gaining access to the first floor of the property

“gaining access to the first floor of the property

“ These two things would have such a profound effect on

mine and the children's lives “

“ These two things would have such a profound effect on

mine and the children's lives “

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© Vanguard Consulting Ltdwww.vanguard-method.com

What Ruth received

2 anger management courses

2 parenting programs

Help cleaning 1 bedroom

Toilet frame, perching stool and bath board for a bath she could not access

Family Intervention program

And it took this many people to deliver it……

8 social workers22 support workers allocated

30 referrals in core flow16 assessments in core flow

36 teams/services

And it took this many people to deliver it……

8 social workers22 support workers allocated

30 referrals in core flow16 assessments in core flow

36 teams/services

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© Vanguard Consulting Ltdwww.vanguard-method.com

Cost of what Ruth wanted……..

• Cleaner (assume 10hrs/week for 4 years = £14,560

• Move to suitable property (current property unsuitable for adaptation) = £1,200

• And/or stair lift = £5,000

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Cost of doing to, not doing what mattered for Ruth

= £86,000.00

Cost of doing to, not doing what mattered for Ruth

= £86,000.00

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What else we found

• Scale thinking is rife71.2% of aspiring VCS orgs fail the 25% “rule”

• Scale thinking is destroying social capitalLoosening of bonds and multipliers – local SW case studyOrganisations going bust due to unit-cost squeeze

• Scale takes vast resource away from the front lineMega-contracts typically 35-55% management costs

• Potential savings are massiveestimated £16bn worth of diseconomies

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Questions?

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Poll 4Which of the following did

we find was the most common reason given for

going for scale?

* Avoid postcode lottery* Less hassle/management* Less chance of failure* Lower unit costs

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The Drivers to Scale

1. Fear of failure

2. Fear of postcode lotteries

3. System efficiencies (QA, development costs)4. Internal management convenience

5. Belief in economies of scale

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Call to Action

Efficiency comes from Effective services, so these must:

• Be “Local by Default”

• Help people to help themselves

• Focus on purpose, not outcomes

• Manage value, not cost

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Final Question

s?

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Final PollAre you convinced that scale in public services delivers Diseconomies?

* Yes* Not sure* No

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www.locality.org.uk/our-work/ policy/diseconomies-scale/

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Wednesday 30 April

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