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22 dekembers `preskafeSi~ gamarTu-

li diskusiis Tema iyo `miwis refor-

mis Tavisebureba aWaraSi~. arsebuli

mdgomareobis analizi sazogadoebas

Tamaz cincaZem gaacno, romelic ukve

wlebia muSaobs am problemaze. paata

jalaRoniam, aWaraSi saias ofisis xel-

mZRvanelma, ki procesi samarTlebri-

vad Seafasa. diskusias moderatoro-

bas `Tavisufal JurnalistTa saxlis~

Tavmjdomare aslan WaniZe uwevda.

aslan WaniZe: Tema Zalian aqtualu-

ria, radgan danarCeni saqarTvelosgan

gansxvavebiT, aWara erTaderTi regio-

nia, sadac miwis reforma ar ganxor-

cielda. visac dauregistrires miwebi

gonioSi, aRmoCnda, rom Turme ukano-

no yofila da isev ukan waarTves. amas-

Tan, im pirebs, vinc es ukanonoba Cai-

dina, pasuxi aravin mosTxova, moqala-

qeebi ki mniSvnelovnad dazaraldnen.

Tamaz cincaZe: erTi SexedviT Sei-

Zleba vifiqroT, rom es Tema amowuru-

lia, magram ase ar aris. Tu bolo pe-

riodSi momxdar garemoebas gaviTva-

liswinebT, davinaxavT sakiTxis simwva-

ves. miT ufro, rom agraruli qveyana

miwis gareSe araferia.

centralurma xelisuflebam miwis

reforma aWaraSi xelovnurad CaSala.

reforma rom Catarebuliyo, im miwe-

bs, romelic meurneobebs hqondaT ga-

dacemuli, xelisufleba TviTneburad

veRar gankargavda da verc qalaqs ga-

dascemda. jer unda Sesrulebuliyo

kanoni miwis reformis Sesaxeb, rome-

lic 1992 wels iqna miRebuli da misi

moqmedebis vada amoiwura 1998 wels.

aWaraSi reforma orjer CaiSala: as-

lan abaSiZis mmarTvelobis dros da

meored _ moqmedi xelisuflebis dros.

aslan abaSiZem reforma ar Caatara,

radgan Tavis Svils, xelvaCaursa da

qobuleTis raionSi 49 wlis vadiT, Se-

mdgomSi Sesyidvis uflebiT, 3152 he-

qtari miwa gadasca. roca am procesebs

mRelvareba mohyva, politikuri nabi-

jebis gadadgma daiwyo. erT-erTi fa-

qti iyo is, rom 2004 wlis martSi Caqv-

Si ukanonod Casaxlebuli 220 komlis-

Tvis miwebis dakanoneba gadawyvita.

maSin veravin gabeda Tqma, rom es ga-

dawyvetileba iyo ukanono, radgan re-

formis vada amoiwura, anu yvela ga-

dawyvetileba, rac miwas Seexeboda, iq-

neboda ukanono. roca am sakiTxiT da-

vinteresdi, aRmovaCine, rom danarTSi

21 iseTi piri iyo Seyvanili, romlebic

fizikurad ar arsebobdnen.

is, rac 2007 welSi moxda, Zalian

hgavs abaSiZis periodis moqmedebas. am

wels saqarTvelos prezidentma miiRo

gadawyvetileba, TviTneburad dakave-

buli miwebis dakanonebis Sesaxeb, es

pirdapir ukavSirdeba 2008 wlis 5 ian-

vris saprezidento arCevnebs.

yvelaze metad am process xels

vinc uSlida, is saxelmwifo moxelee-

bi iyvnen, romlebic umaRles sabWoSi,

zogic mTavrobaSi isxdnen da makon-

trolebeli funqcia hqondaT. 2004

wlis 21 noembers miRebuli kanoniT,

aWaraSi mcxovreb komlebs, romleb-

sac kanonmdeblobiT dadgenili we-

siT ekuTvnodaT miwis nakveTi, magram

ar flobdnen, kanonmdeblobis Sesaba-

misad, 2006 wlis 31 dekembramde unda

gadascemodaT nakveTebi. miwebis gada-

cemas sxva aranairi sakanonmdeblo ba-

za ar sWirdeboda, Tumca es dokumen-

ti ugulebelyves da reformis proce-

si xelovnurad CaSales. cxadi gaxda,

centralur xelisuflebas mosaxle-

obis konstituciuri uflebis aRsru-

leba ar awyobda, radgan prestiJul

miwebs mis Wkuaze veRar gankargavda.

unda daekisros Tu ara amaze pa-

suxismgebloba vinmes? es sakiTxi au-

cileblad daismeba, radgan arCevnebi

modis da ufro aqtualuri gaxdeba _

adamianebi TavianT uflebas Seaxsene-

ben xelisuflebas... vinc kanoni fexeb-

ze daikida da miwas unebarTvod daepa-

trona, isini prezidentma daakmayofi-

la, xolo patiosani kaci, vinc saxl-

Si ijda da fiqrobda, rom kanonieri

gziT miiRebda sakuTrebis uflebas,

xelcarieli darCa. aseT mdgomare-

obaSi aRmoCnda 5 000-mde ojaxi xelva-

Caursa da qobuleTSi.

1992 wels ministrTa sabWom gamosca

brZaneba saqarTveloSi miwis reformis

ganxorcielebaze. am brZanebiT 1999

wlis 1 ianvramde miwa sakuTrebaSi,

pirvel rigSi, unda gadascemoda 1992

wlis 1 ianvramde warmoSobil komle-

bs, Semdeg unda Seqmniliyo sarezervo

fondebi, raTa amis Semdgom warmoSo-

bili komlebi daekmayofilebinaT. es

kanoni aWaraSi ar Sesrulda.

xelvaCaurSi mcxovrebTa 70 procen-

ti araadgilobrivia, anu 1970 wlidan

da Semdgom periodSi zogi ojaxi ka-

nonierad, zogic ukanonod Camosaxl-

da. isini axla umravlesobas warmoad-

genen, magram yofili mepatronis sin-

droms Cven ver movSliT, anu am ada-

mianebs yovelTvis eqnebaT preten-

zia mamapapiseul miwaze. Tumca yofi-

li saxelmwifo meurneobebsa da sau-

fliswulo mamulebze, romlebic Ta-

vis droze memamuleebma saxelmwifos

miyides, amaze Zveli mepatroneebi pre-

tenzias ver ganacxadeben. Camosaxle-

buli xalxis namravlis uzrunvelyo-

fa swored am miwebis xarjze unda mox-

des. Tumca TviTnebur Casaxlebas kon-

troli sWirdeba.

reforma rom xelovnurad CaiSala,

amis dasamtkiceblad erTi dokumenti

movitane, romelsac xels aweren aWara-

Si reformis sakoordinacio komisiis

Tavmjdomaris moadgile irakli gora-

Ze da miwis marTvis samsaxuris ufrosi,

merab ZirkvaZe. moxsenebiT baraTSi isi-

ni mTavrobis Tavmjdomares weren, rom

reformis gansaxorcieleblad yvela-

feri mzadaa. dokumenti daTariRebu-

lia 2005 wlis 17 dekembriT. arsad we-

ria, rom dafinanseba an sakanonmdeblo

baza ar aris. da amis miuxedavad refor-

ma ar tardeba, rac ukve danaSaulia.

parmen jalaRonia: 1992 wlis minis-

trTa kabinetis dadgenilebiT gani-

sazRvra miwis reforma, magram am dad-

genilebis xarvezi iyo is, rom aikrZa-

la miwis gasxviseba zRvis zolidan 3

da sazRvridan 21 kilometris radius-

Si. am kanoniT upriani iqneboda, so-

felSi mcxovrebi ojaxebisTvis 0,5 he-

qtarze naklebi sameurneo nakveTe-

bi ar gadaecaT, xolo mTaSi mcxovre-

bi ojaxebisTvis aranakleb 1 heqtari-

sa. 1998 welSi gamocemuli brZanebiT,

saxelmwifo uflebas aZlevda TviT-

mmarTvelobas, qoneba saxelmwifo

meurneobebidan gaecaT.

2007 wels kanoniT miwis gadacema iu-

ridiul pirze iyo fasiani, fizikur-

ze _ ufaso. mogvianebiT ki iuridiul

pirs mxolod auqcionis wesiT SeeZlo

miwis yidva. arsebobs kanonproeqti,

romlis mixedviTac 2012 wlidan xel-

vaCaursa da qobuleTSi miwis saku-

TrebaSi gadacema fasiani gaxdeba. 2007

wels miRebuli kanonis Semdeg 120 saq-

mea wasuli sasamarTloSi. yvela saqme-

Si weria, rom ojaxebs aRiarebis komi-

siam jer gadasca miwis nakveTebi, Sem-

deg ki CamoarTva.

levan gobaZe, arasamTavrobo or-

ganizacia `inteleqti~: eg aris poli-

tikur nebasTan dakavSirebuli, rad-

gan asi mowmec rom miuyvano sasamarT-

los, Tu ar aris xelisuflebis neba an

sasamarTlo Tavisufali, Sedegi igi-

ve iqneba.

avTo beriZe, xelvaCauris munici-

palitetis sakrebulos wevri: `me vam-

bob, rom aWaraSi reforma ar Catare-

bula. mosamzadebeli periodi iyo, ma-

gram saqme ar gakeTda. is, rac dRes

xdeba, _ is, rom kaci ukanonod Sei-

Wra miwaze da xelisuflebamac es mi-

wa daukanona _ arc es aris refor-

ma. adamianebs miwa ar gadascemiaT sa-

kuTrebaSi. mTel saqarTveloSi ojax-

ebs miwa gadaecaT ufasod, aWaraSi ki

fuli unda gadaixados glexma. es aris

konstituciuri uflebis Selaxva. Cven

gvyavs beltiylapia xelisufleba,

romelic gviWams miwas.

levan gobaZe: isic gasaTvaliswine-

belia, rom CvenTan ver movSliT yo-

fili mepatronis sindroms. babuas

miwebs xalxi amuSavebs, magram, roca

saqme saqmeze midgeba, is mainc saxelm-

wifos sakuTrebaa. es gamoiwvevs did

socialur ukmayofilebas. am sakiTxe-

bis mogvareba rogor SeiZleba?

Tamaz cincaZe: me saxelmwifo gad-

mosaxedidanac mimuSavia da tradicie-

bic vici, magram konstitucia babuas

miwas ar cnobs. vfiqrob, siebi unda

aRdges da 1992 wlis 1 ianvris kanonm-

deblobiT visac unda gadascemoda mi-

wa zRvruli odenobiT, mas unda gad-

aeces sakuTreba.

suliko miqelaZe: 37-ianebSi adami-

anebs rom qoneba waarTves, amis dab-

runebaze ratom aravin saubrobs?

SoTa zoiZe: me rom rusi generali

viyo da movitano yvela dokumenti mi-

wis sakuTrebaze, damibruneben miwas?

paata jalaRonia: ar var winaaRm-

degi, rom yvelas hqondes sakuTreba-

Si miwa, magram im miwebis sakuTreba-

Si dabrunebaze Tu daviwyeT saubari,

romelic komunistebma CamoarTves

adamianebs, saqarTveloSi albaT ax-

ali revolucia moxdeba, radgan aR-

moCndeba, rom am qveyanaSi yvelaze

meti sakuTrebis mflobeli swored

araqarTvelebi iqnebian, anu eTnikuri

qarTvelebi seriozuli problemeb-

is winaSe dadgebian. ase rom gaakeTon,

pirvel rigSi swored eTnikuri qarT-

veli darCeba miwis sakuTrebis gareSe.

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