DOCKET NO. SA-516 APPENDIX E
NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD WASHINGTON, DC
DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO WITNESSES 300-399 (265 pages)
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On July 22, 1996, at approximately 1 0 : 5 5 A M , Investigators JOHN P. K
advised that on July 17, 1996, at a p p r o x i m a m P M , he was fishing with his father and mother on his father's boat. north of Ocean Beach. towers of Ocean Beach. He stated his boat was facing north and that he was looking east off the starboard side. he saw a large flash of flame Sn the southeastern sky. he only saw the tail end of this burst of flame. this burst of flame was just to the left of the eastern water tower at Ocean Beach. He estimated this flash occurred fifteen to twenty miles away. He did not hear any noise nor did he see any object ascending into the sky.
-noted that while fishing in the Fire Island Inlet, he observed the "Speedy Express" party boat heading out east in the ocean to go blue fishing. party boats, if heading east for bluefish, would fish off the Patchogue grounds. He noted that several other boats usually have nighttime bluefish trips out of Captree.
The boat was drifting east about 100 feet He stated he was between the east and west
All of a sudden He stated
He stated that w
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He stated that usually the
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The following investigation was conducted by Special Agent GAIN P. SHEA of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on July 27, 1996 at Sag Harbor, New York regarding TRANS WORLD AIRLINES flight 800 :
, 1996, 111111111, residing at Sag Harbor, New York (NY), advised that she
heard a boom from her house and decided to drive to the ocean in Sagaponack, NY. Upon arriving at the ocean, -observed rescue vessels and rescue flares being shot into the sky overhead. absolutely sure that the flares were rescue flares fired from the rescue vessels. aware of the rescue.
She did not observe the plane going down and was
She called the police so that they might be
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being advised of the identit nature of the interview & provided the following information.
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-was taking the garbage out at his residence sometime after 8:OO p.m. on July 17, 1996 when he looked up and toward a southerly direction when he saw in the distance ”... a fire in the sky.” This object was red in color, appeared to be climbing in altitude and lasted for about ten seconds.
the “Red flame went down in an arc” and that “In retrospect I believe it was the plane.”
stated that the object was moving at a 45 degree angle
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following information:
-advised that on July 17, 1996 at approximately 8 : 2 5 P.M. s e was present at the Bellport Yacht Club, Bellport, New York, attending a Bellport Chamber of Commerce function outside on the veranda when she turned towards Bellport Bay, and observed at first a huge glowing orange ball very high in the slightly hazy and dusty sky.
p a d v i s e d that she then observed a much smaller and much ower irregular and odd shaped, almost triangular, object orange in color and to the left of the huge orange ball. She stated that she then observed two rectangular walls, orange in color, come off the huge orange ball, initially with a gap between them, and falling straight dowp until merging with the irregular shaped orange object and falling from sight. w stated that a lot of black smoke came up from the n t e r as the Smith Point bridge lights went out for one or two minutes and off to the left in Bellport Bay she saw three white spotli hts glowing by Shirley Shores, a waterfront community. & advised that the three spotlights were glowing for approximately one or two minutes and were like the kind of glowing white lights that boats would normally use.
1 d v i s e d that she never saw anything through the orange shapes or black smoke that looked like a plane.
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f the identit of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, &provided the following information:
On the evenin of July 17, 1996,-, were fishing in a bo-
rom the sky to his south. Moriches Inlet vicinity. a huge fire ball coming down ball broke into two pieces and continued falling towards the Atlantic Ocean, one fire ball dropping in front of the other, until he lost sight of them behind Dune Road.-further stated that the entire sighting was approximately five to six seconds in duration. He stated that about three seconds after losing sight of the fire balls, he heard three rumbles of explosions, one right after the other. -stated that he then called the UNITED STATES COAST GUARD ( U S C G ) , on VHF channel 16 and he was told that the sighting was aaready being investigated.
stated that at about dusk, he saw The fire
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- Application Booth, Smith Haven-Mail, Smithtown, New ~ o r k , concerning her observations on July 17, 1996, regarding Trans World Airline (TWA) Flight 800 and/or what initially appeared to be @@fireworks.@# Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) Special Agent KEVIN KEUEHER.
Also present during the interview was Alcohol,
p a d v i s e d that she was sitting at her table at LANDS END ESTAURANT, located off Foster Avenue in Sayville, New York, looking out the window, when she observed what appeared to be a thin stream of orange flame, but no smoke, which traveled for about three (3) seconds from when she saw it until it disappeared over the horizon, which was then immediately followed by a huge explosion which seemed like it was coming from the sea. The huge explosion had different tones of red and orange. - did not see the @@firework1@ make an impact, and did not hear a sound, because the distance was too great, which let her know it was very far away. -did not know what had happened, but felt it was something terrible. When she first saw the orange stream, which looked like a llfirework,@l it came straight up out of the water, and this occurred far to her left, but she could not give a compass point direction from which it came, or an exact time of the occurrence. She described it as evening, but the lighting conditions were very good, and that there were not any dunes or other obstructions to her view. that if she went back to the restaurant for interview, she would be able to exactly duplicate what she saw.
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On July 17, 1996, at approximately 8:30 p.m., was sailing with friends off the Town of Bayshore, Long New York. noticed a flaming object falling towards the Atlantic Ocean. The object separated into two burning sections shortly before he lost sight of them near the horizon.
He stated that in the sky to the south-east, he
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Police, at the OAKDALE YACHT MARINA in Oakdale, New York. being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, -provided the following information:
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.,, On July 17, 1996, at approximately 8:30 p.m., fishing in a row boat on the Connetquot River near the 0 YACHT MARINA. He stated that in the sky to the south-east, he noticed a single column of flame falling towards the Atlantic Ocean. objects just before he lost sight of them near the horizon.
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Island, New York, and was advised of the idekities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview which was to ascertain her knowledge and observations on the evening of July 17, 1996. Thereafter provided the following information. m stated that at approximately 8:45PM she was at the SHELTER ISLAND COUNTRY CLUB, in the gazebo, facing the bay, when she observed, 15 degrees up from the horizon, just west of the NATIONAL GOLF COURSE, two fire balls, one on top of the other, red and orange in color, with the fire ball on top larger and longer than the one below it. -stated that there was a
observed no smoke coming from the fire balls. further stated that the fire balls were elongated and straight down
definite separation between the two
the fire balls hit the water however into the water,
go up towards obstructing her view.
tated that the fire balls were approximately ten to miles from the location.
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stated that she did not observe ue to the sand hills and the bay further advised that she saw
T balls nor did she hear any noises.
-further stated that she saw no boats in the area, also due to her obstructed vision.
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is an employee of JOHN SCOTT'S RAW BAR on Dune
observed a flaming object that appeared to be a
The object was southwest of
New York. On July 17, 1996, while at SCOTT'S
fall from the sky. The object appeared to be thirty (30) feet above the telephone wires in the area. appeared to fall from east to west. his position. (11) o'clock position.
smoke cloud. He heard two explosions. the second. -felt the vibration,of the explosions. incident caused the sky to light up toward the south.
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When facing south, the object was at the eleven
After the object crashed, -observed a mushroom
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On July 24, 1996, Special Agent (SA) WILLIAM F, LYNCH, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), while doina random
Mr. 7 s asked if he visits this park regularly; had done so on July 1 1996 when TWA flight # S O 0 crashed, and whether he had noted anything sea, or in the sky, either on time leading up to that date.
unusual a t the Park. on the land. ~ - .
of the crash, or at any advised as follows:
stated that both he and his father had observed oat which stayed in the same position
approximately one to two miles off shorp from Smith Point Park from July 15, 1996 through July 17, 1996.
He stated that he and his father thought this was odd, especially since the boat stayed there during the night of July 16, 1996, when, as he recalled, there was a storm, He also recalled that this boat had departed its position before TWA flight #800 crashed, although he did not know exactly when it left, did not see it leave, and had no idea where it went.
As regards the crash of TWA flight # 8 0 0 , again, both he and his father were at Cranberry Dock, on Cranberry Road, in Mastic Beach, NY, when they saw it crash. He recalled that the plane was glowing orange, and that it fell in " 4 or 5 pieces."
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On July 24, Remsenberg, New York, telephonically contac Federal Bureau of Investigation the evening of July 17, 1996. -stated that she observed an orange reflection in the trees from her backyard, which faces in a westerly direction.
airplane left a heavy white vapor trail.
cerning her observations on
Shortly before she saw this glow, a airplane had passed overhead, traveling
she did not see an airplane crash or an advised that
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interviewing agent and that the nature of the interview was July 17, 1996 airplane crash of TWA Flight 800,
provided the following information: - advised that on July 17, 1996 at approximately 8:30 P.M. she was present at the Bellport Yacht Club, Bellport, New York, attending a Bellport Chamber of Commerce function. She stated that she was outside on the veranda when she heard someone call out to t@lookt@. advised that she turned towards the water, Bellport observed a large round to angular shaped object of orange flames descend towards the water in the distance.
K d v i s e d that she heard no noise and did not observe any smo e.
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two separate pieces falling towards the Atlantic Ocean.
she heard two explosions which sounded like thunder.
the Coast Guard an testing bombs in the area. rescue helicopters in the area. information.
d. -stated that as the two pieces disappeared beyond Dune Roa
advised that- immediately called
She provided no further
was informed that the Air National Guard were She also advised that she saw three
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stated that on dinner with
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south towards the Atlantic, he heard was something in the sky. Mr . w d up an observed two (2) objects burning in the sky an watched these objects fall until his view became obstructed by sand dunes. After a short while, he observed a column of dark smoke rising up into the air. have a white coloring.
say that there
alling towards the water. He
The top of this smoke appeared to
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then furnished the following information:
On July 17, 1996, he was at home watching television when at approximately 8:30 p.m. he heard an explosion, few seconds later by another explosion. loud. sound appeared to come from the west.
followed a Both sounded equally
The He did n o t see anything.
He thought it sounded like thunder or a sonic boom.
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of the interview. information:
On July 17, 1996, she was at home watching television when at approximately 8:30 p.m. she heard an explosion, followed a minute later by a second, louder explosion. sounded like thunder or a sonic boom. from the west.
She thought it The sound appeared to come
She did not see anything.
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The following investigation was conducted by S A C 4RA L HOLMES and SA P4ARCIE A HOLK regarding TWA Flight #800
that she looked up and saw a humongous ball of fire which was orange and yellow MARTIN advised that she watched this ball of fire fallins to the ground when it exploded m t a t e d that the ball of fire exploded int two comet like shapes -dvised that these comet like
advised that both parts of shapes were orange and yellow falling to the ground one on top of the other into the wate the flame hit the water and then exploded -stated that after the explosion she felt the earth move
-stated that tails and that they were
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WILLIAM HANSEN of the Federal Bureau of Inveetd!k% Detective MICHAEL C o k y Police
identities by the showing of credentials, Department, who advised
concerned details he might have concerning the TWA Flight 800 crash. -hereafter provided the following:
the purpose of the interview
advised he was having dinner on the back porch 1996, with at 8:30PM. ay, when he 1)
flare get bigger as it went down. There was an explosion, and an object broke into two pieces and spiraaled down toward the horizon. Hampton House. the object hit a location out on the horizon.
flame, moving directly away from 1 :
middle of the deck, and saw the
The object went down over what appeared to be the A secondary explosion appeared moments later when
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m e n t i t i e s of After being advise -yp interviewed at
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WESTHAMPTON YACHT S UADRON on an outside covered porch. Between saw what she initially thought was a
boat flare. She saw a are when it was already at a midpoint 8:30 and 8:45 p.m.,
in the sky. She was facing south overlooking Moriches Bay and Dune Road. As - faced south, she estimated that the flare would have been at about 11:OO. She did not see where the flare originated from, but thought that it was as close as the bay.
The flare continued ascending for about three seconds, b u t r t o o k her eyes off of it as she looked or a boat in the bay which she thought may have sent up the flare. The flare was red-orange in color with white in the middle elongated in shape like a baseball bat, but more squat. any smoke or anything trailing the flare, but advised that she was focusing on the light. The light seemed to be moving away from her, as if further south.
- On the evening of July 17, 1996, -was at the
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%- As the flare ascended, it suddenly turned a deeper orange, and got larger, but not exactly round in shape. - did not hear anything at that point. fire descended and became more misformed in shape. described the shape as being like a iipulled toothti. expected the fire to descend into the bay, but lost sight of it as it descended much farther south beyond Dune Road. smoke trail following the fire mass as it descended downward.
Slowly, the entire body of
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%iren, arrived at Ponquoque ;Tj I from the Shinnecock, NY Coast Guard Station, at \
approximately 8:OO pm. All seven (7) individuals were at the water's edge to the right of the lifeguard station located directly in front of the concession stand. She advised that there were approximately 10 to 15 people on the beach. It was hazy and humid and she does not remember seeing the sun due to the haze. *
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Shortly thereafter, JOHNSON told TORRANCE to look toward the right, which was in a westerly direction from her
saw a red streak, which was comprised of red and was standing,
The streak was thick and trailed white smoke. She did not see any solid objects in the smoke and fire, but it reminded her of the Challenger disaster. streak, which resembled the first. She thought that the streaks were flares or fireworks but something did not seem right. She cannot remember if the first streak was traveling up but got the impression that it was a flare coming up from the ocean because she vaguely remembers smoke on the water. However, it was hazy and she cannot be sure if it was haze on the water or smoke. - advised the first streak was smaller than the second and was lower and to the left of the second streak. Both streaks initially traveled in a straight line, then fell to the water trailing white smoke. from the water after impact.
location. At approximately two o'clock from where she
resembled a plant called a cattail.
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Smoke continued to issue forth from the water and - noticed a boat with flashing blue and green lights heading in the direction of the smoke.
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was interviewed by Investigator JOHN P. KEARY of Police (NYSP) Department. The interview was conducted on July 19, 1996.
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was telephonically interviewed on July 19, 1996, 9:15 PM. e advised he was surfing in the vicinity of @IK1* Road, Shinnecock County Park, West. He advised that he saw a plane flying to the west of his location, further out to sea. advised that he saw a small burst of flame at about the same height of the plane. seconds later.
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He then saw a large burst of flame several He did not see anything prior to the explosion.
It is noted that several other surfers were in the area but-did not know their names. -advised that the surfers park in the parking l o t by I1Ktt Road.
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He was sailing in the Great South Bay in the vicinity of Nichol Bay, approximately 1 mile east of HECKSCHER STATE PARK. He stated that while facing east, all of a sudden he saw a large burst of flame in the southeast. He stated this burst of flame apparently happened over the ocean and his point of reference was Smith Point County Park. He estimated the distance to be approximately 20 miles. view any object ascending into the sky.
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-recalled that several years ago he had read an article in Professional Pilot about a smaller aircraft which was nit by a missile. He stated that the aircraft was a Beech-Hawker (British Aerospace) and it was possibly flying over Africa when nit.
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On July 17, 1996, fh was in a vehicle traveling ampton, New York. 0
At this time,
south on Old Riverhead Road, Wes observed a column of white flame that was shaped like an exclamation point. BEIGEL advised that the vehicle was north of Montauk Highway and south of the N e w York Air Guard. appeared to be over the la behind the distant trees.
The flame was to the east.
The flame was descending and
did not hear any explosions. The flame was l o s t from sight
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The evening of July 17, 1996, m w a s at the Westhampton Yacht Squadron in Westhampton Beach standing on an outside deck. -heard someone say, I1Look", and he turned his attention south over the ocean. m o b s e r v e d a red flare arching in the sky and descending downward. As it descended downward, he heard a Itthumpi1 and-then there was a sudden burst of flames. masses, and descended away from each other and out of view beyond Dune Road.
This large body of flames then split into two smaller
u did not see the flare until it arched in the sky.
Initially, because it was so bright, he thought that it was only about 1/4 mile away in the bay area. The flare did not have a trail as it arched, but he did observe'a trail of smoke as the flare descended. The flare took several seconds t o descend which caused-to expect to see a parachute attached to it. However, the flare then burst into a fireball. After the masses descended south of Dune Road, 0 realized that it occurred much farther away, and must have been something larger than a flare.
something be reached at York.
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On July 17, 1996, at or about 8:20 PM, h a l o n g with three other friends, went to go fishing at a beac east Shinnecock jetty at the most southern end of Halsey Neck Road in Shinnecock.
area along the
-stated that when they arrived at this beach area, their vehicle was facing west. At this time, all four occupants exited the vehicle for the purpose of letting air pressure out of each tire. This was done so that their vehicle could more easily transverse the beach area.
stated that he was busy ,deflating the left front tire when f r i e n d his - (also interviewed) spotted something in the sky. At t is point,mlooked up west to a south westerly direction and observed an object burning and falling from the sky. He noticed a black smoke trail following this burning object. -described this object as being an orange and yellow ball of flame. -continued to watch this object fall from the sky until he lost sight of it because of a sand dune which obstructed his view.
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s t a t e d t h a t weather conditions on t h i s evening were c l e a r with good v i s i b i l i t y . -stated t h a t while a t t h i s loca t ion he observed a Coast Guard boat pass through t h e I n l e t a t a high r a t e of speed w i t h its emergency l i g h t on.
I n i t i a l l y , 0 thought t h a t the Coast Guard boat w a s going t o the loca t ion where he thought t h e object f e l l i n t o the water.
f reported t h a t he watched a s the boat went w e l l t o t h e l e f t and f e l l .
ar pas t the locat ion where he thought t h e ob jec t
m s t a t e d t h a t i f you timed a boat coming out of t he Shinnecock I n l e t a t a high r a t e of speed f o r about 30 seconds t h i s is where he f e e l s t h e p a r t f e l l i n t o t h e ocean. Lu
- s ta ted t h a t he f e e l s t ha t the ob jec t , poss ib ly a j e t engine, dropped i n t o t h e ocean about. one and a one-half m i l e s from the shore, and between the Ponquogue Bridge and the w e s t Shinnecock J e t t y .
-stated t h a t he bel ieves t h e object may have been a p a r t of t h e p ane because he d id not see where t he rescue boats were going and he f igured a l a rge r event happened elsewhere on t h e water.
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nature of the interview, information:
On July 17, 1996, at about 8:30 p.m., -was The south side of traveling westbound on the Sunrise Highwa
Sunrise Highway is heavily tree-lined. -was just passing the William Floyd Parkway when he saw w at he thought was a fireworks display through the corner of his windshield and driver's side window.
u was traveling with his daughter, and remarked to her to look
saw a red glowing object ascending from that the glowing ob'ect must have
advised 7 originated from at least several miles away. that it was not completely dark outside yet.
arced from the west to the east
the head of a pen up into did not notice any smoke following as it ascended.
=he air. ball.
Suddenly, the glow burst into a larger red glowing
was traveling at about 75 miles per hour. ng after the glow burst into the larger ball
ouple of seconds. did not hear any sounds at all. The entire
-did not think anything of the event until he ater t at evening and realized a dav later that saw the news
what he saw may have been related.
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idas advised
advised that on the evening of Wednesday, on the Weethampton Beach in the vicinity of
Cupsogue Beach at at the time and n o t t o w a r d the sky.
He was working on a propeller
At approximately 8:30PM, he heard an explosion from above that sounded like an artillery round. this loud bang was followed seconds later by three or four muffled explosions. As he looked up, he saw a line of grey and black smoke in the dimley lit sky. This smoke lasted about one to one and half minutes and although it appeared solid it was wide at the top and tappered down.
He explained that
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stated that he estimated that this occurrence to six miles out t6 sea from the beach and -~ _.__-
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stated that he saw no flares or trails of one previously described.
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Remsen urg, New York, was advised of th e official w- i entities of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview. =then provided the following information:
-stated that on July 17, 1996, he was at the WESTHAMPTON YACHT SQUADRON with his family having dinner. They were seated on the porch when he noticed a red/ an e flare. This image was very tiny, like a laser point. -stated that the flare was about 45 degrees in the sky and then started to descend to the ground. it became bigger. The flare exploded into an orange and black ribbon that went down behind 585 Dune Road. flame went down behin Dune Road, saw another explosion and flames come up. .a s t a t e d t h at he observed black smoke after the second explosion and that the smoke turned into a white cloud, D a d v i s e d that he did not hear the explosions, he only saw them.
As the flare came closer to the ground
After the ribbon
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was telephonically contacted. Alitalia Airlines (AZ) Captain
identity of the interviewins aqent and - - the purpose for the interview, he provided the following information:
-dvised that on 7/17/96, he and First Officer (FO) -ere the only cockpit flight# 609, a non-
in charge of the flight. The of AZ 609 when
may have been TWA flight #900.
was actually the pilot
believed that it off after TWA
stop flight from JFK to Rome.
it left JFK was behind a TWA 767 aircraft.
flight 800 and before AZ 609.
from JFK at an altitude of 18,000 or 19,000 feet whe called his attention to an explosion in midair.--g down at the cockpit flight instruments. -observed a ball of fire directly in front and below AZ 609. It fell vertically down to the water trailing thin black smoke. There was another explosion when the debris hit the water that caused smaller fires on the water surface. The second explosion appeared to have been bigger than the midair explosion. The weather was clear with very little wind. According to visibilit at flight and water level was very good. At n ! e d i d bserve any object, fire, or smoke trail travel towards the explosion in the air.
advised that AZ 609 was approximately 49 miles
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was getti g ready to change radio frequencies. the site, they changed frequencies and continued on to R Later in the flight they notified chief flight attendant-
He recalled that Air Traffic attempted to call Other
p a d v i s e d that at the time of the explosion, AZ 609 After flying over
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The following background information was obtained from -L
Name DOB POB
Residence (Italy)
Scotland
Telephone number
Residence (Switzerland)
Telephone number
Point of Contact
Telephone
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following information:
advised that she was driving her boat on July
observed per hour. a bright yellow flash of light. approximately 5 to 8 miles away. boat was east of the Patchogue River and west of the Smith Point Bridge. The flash of light appeared to be a flare or
feel any vibrations from did not observe approximately 15 seconds.
any unusual boats in the area.
outh and
17, 1996. was heading east at approx At approximately 8:30 or 8:45 P . M . ,
The light was When the flash occurred, the
The light descended to the horizon. k. The entire incident lasted
any noise or
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vovided the following information: le interviewing Agent and the purpose
On July 17, located west of the east when the incident occurred. east when the incident occurred. observed an orange/yellow light in the sky. and app water.
as on a boat in the bay boat was traveling
of his position, he as facing toward the
The light exploded be stationary. Next, two pieces fell toward the dvised the entire incident occurred in a few
did not hear or feel anything related to be 3 to 4 miles away and over
to the incident.
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to pick up ash of light- fireworks. He heard EO
raise.
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flame of as this fireball f e i l to the qrouna. He
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The interview was conducted on July 21,
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was interviewed at her New York, tel interview was
Department (SCPD). also furnished observations which After being apprised of the identities of the independ It mDetectIGe, as well as the nature of the
advised that on the evening of July
provided the following.
pon her father‘s boat, in Moriches Bay,
The fireball appeared when she observed a white smoke trail ascending through the sky culminating in a bright orange fire ball.
ocean. noted that the smoke trail seemed to start off slowly, but gained momentum and speed before evolving into a fireball.
either the dunes or beyond the dunes in the
ent with her observation of the smoke and also observed a black plane flying overhead in
She believed that the plane might dvised that this
fireball
larger planes in the area.
plane was distinct from another at she observed in have been a propeller driven plane.
the area doing loops several minutes prior to her observation of the smoke trial.
ion at approximately 1/2 the altitude flown by
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interviewed at his place-of work,4 ~ - - - - -- ----
the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, which was to ascertain his knowledge and observations of the evening of July 17, 1996. Thereafter,-provided the following information:
docked 1
Ll atersports and activities on the beach. While-at the noticed an unusual ship in the water off the coast.
He indi that this boat was unusual in that it had a smoke stack in the middle and a high front and high back. The ship was further described as a white, twentyctwo (22) foot, fishing boat. The ship appeared to be sinkin because the bow of the ship appeared unusually high. d c o u l d not recall ever seeing that ship off the shore by Great Gun Park.
and his friends returne to his docked boat and began to pull out of the boat slip. 9 while maneuvering his boat out of the slip by proceeding in reverse as the boat faced north towards Great Gun Park, was alerted by one of his friends on the boat, to look at that. white light in the sk over the ocean. south, southeast o f b a n d his boat. The white light was high in the sky and moved slightly high for approximately one or two seconds before turning into two (2) equal size reddish/orange fireballs. -described his observations as seeing a flare reaching its apex than quickly falling down toward the ocean.
At approximately 8:30 PM, as the sun was settin-
-quickly turned around and observed a bright This white light was
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I r e c a l l e d seeing grayish, blackish smoke tracing the reddish/orange fireballs &s,.Qey descended toward the water. The fireballs were very big and appeired quite close. could not see exactly where the fireball landed because he was in his boat across the inlet on the bayside.
light or the reddish/orange fireballs. However, he indicated that his boat’s outboard motor was idling as the boat was in reverse.
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-believed that the flare may have been a distress flare from sinking. -L noted that the orange firebal(1 a6peared further out in the ocean than where the unpsual boat was earlier observed. .- overheard other ‘individuals in the marina commenting on seeing the flare.
e boat observed earlier which appeared to be
0 and his friends left the area on his boat after seeing the flare without making any further inquiries into their sightings. After- arrived home, he saw a special news report on the airplane explosion which occurred over the waters of East Moriches, Long Island, New York.
-could not r,eEall any additional factors or ’* observations regarding the evening of July 17, 1996, but was
advised to contact the hot line number at the Federal Bureau of Investigation ( F B I ) New York Office if any additional informqfion came to light.
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, Date of Birth: Westhampton, New York erviewed by Investigator
(Inv.) DARNLEY SCOON, New York State Police, and Special Agent f Investigation (FBI), at
employed at
is currently the
was working on the Dredge Illinois while it was also worked on a second Dredge called the
Dredge completed its job in Qatar on November 20, eft Qatar November 20, 1995, and traveled to came back to the States on December 2, 1995.
hat Dredge Illinois was not operating between 95, and the middle of May, 1996 when it started
in Qatar.
L l the journey to Staten Island. Illinois arrived at
time he was with the Dredge made aware that there tated that during the staten Island on July 2, 1996.
were four (4) Middle Eastern workers who disappeared and the local police were notified.
Dredge Illinois left was met with negative
Dredge Illinois was stated that the first time he
was on July 2, 1996, when the Dredge Illinois was in Staten Island Dock.
stated that he first saw one of the stowaways
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made the call.
and bring back the stated that this was the first time that
who are described as follows: all are of Shri Lankan decent, one was a cook, name unknown; second was a janitor, and the third was a general
believed that the three had for forty days on the laborer* Dredge - ois from Qatar and looked malnutritioned. The laborer stated that his father worked in Georgia when he was young and might have known some people down there. who speak ish, had made arrangements through the Captain ) of the other Dredge (Carolina) to work
in Qatar, and made comments about him coming to the states and working on his farm in Orange, Texas. The laborer got a message
The janitor,
Texas. The janitor worked for TRAMELL
to his father who sent him correspondence
stay at the Henegama Gionaratrhne, Bawana \ the invitation for the laborer, now known as -
High View, West Virginia, telephone 304-856-3241. All subjects stayed in the BUDGET MOTOR LODGE in Woodbridge, New Jersey, and
s to Shri Lanka from various pay phones. The two, and the mess cook, left on a GREYHOUND bus from Penn
Orange, Texas. brother at the Staten Island dock. In reference to Flight # 8 0 0 plane crash, o w a s in the trailer at 816 Dune Road, and heard a noise but saw nothing.
to West Virginia, and the janitor took a bus to -was driven away in a dark Lincoln by his
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East Moriches, New
After being
information : gents and the nature
The night of
East Moriches. At saw a plane up in
the plane’s flight when it left his view for “several. seconds.” Then he saw a large ball of fire suddenly where the plane’s course would have taken it. He did not see the plane immediately before the explosion; however, he was looking in the direction of the plane at the time of the explosion.
were on their boat,
the sky flying in a was watching
The ball of fire fell slowly at first, and traveled - slightly east. two pieces, and began falling much more quickly. seconds, he could no longer see the plane or the fire. believes that the pilot had control over the plane before it broke into two that point. dces‘ never heard any sounds associated with what he has discribed seeing.
Then, what appeared now to be a plane, broke into In a couple of
He
because the plane fell slowly up until
-repared, and supplied SA INZERILLO, with a chart right after the explosion that shows the coordinates where he saw the plane was “OK,” where it became a ball of fire, where it broke into two pieces, and where it finally fell to earth.
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WILLIAM INZERILLO, Special Agent WILLIAM F. LYNCH, Suffolk County Marine Bureau Inspector DOUGLAS S. MATULEWICH, and Suffolk County Marine Bureau Inspector VINCENT TERMINE on July 21, 1996:
MATULEWICH where i about 8:30 PM on July 17, 1996. information to generate longitudinal and latitudinal coordinates for what she saw that night.
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INZERILLO a chart prepared by
showing the coordinates of
East Moriches, New York, . A t approximately 8:30 PM on seen a plane explode in the
took this chart so that he could plot these coordinates on a chart he was generating.
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work telephone numbe of the interviewin
On Wednesday, July 17, 1 9 9 6 , of approximately 8:30 P . M . , he was on his boat in the Connetquot River. in the sky and saw two flames coming together towards the ground. ye was unable to provide any rncre information.
He looked up
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jeacn, NeW York, telephone number
interview. the identity-e interviewing 1 - ~ - - - I then provided the following Ltakements. ximately 1830 hours was fishing off his
Farmingville, d unknown
northwest.
served a large fireball. bserved flames falling towards the water off the horizon
number.
then shouted out loud "hey looktf. advised he in the southeast direction an
by a streak of white smoke following the flames. The unknown o ect that was fa
hen heard a heavy bl
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the sky. could not
.lling then disappeared behind the ro( mkei;;;z!ow streak of smoke
tated he did not observing the ames dropping out of approximate how fair the- flames were
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date of birth: Rhode Island, t
advised o the interview was regarding whether
or not she noticed anything in regards to the crash of TWA flight 800 on 7/17/96, while she was aboard USAIR flight 217 on 7/17/96, from Charlotte, North Carolina to Providence, Rhode Island.
-furnished the following information:
aboard USAIR flight 217 on 7/17/96, from as assigned seat 22C. Seat 22C is an aisle
seat. Between the times 8:40 p.m. and 9:00 p.m., she moved from her assigned seat to a window seat. The window seat was vacant.
a northern direction, As the plane she was aboard was starting to descend over the southern portion of Long Island she was looking at the sunset and the land below. It was dusk outside the window of the plane.
stated she had moved over to sit in the window seat the sunset was beautiful. The USAIR flight was heading in
During this time she noticed a huge ball of fire west of her plane. -could not state whether the ball of fire was over the w er or land, but it looked like it was over the water. At approximately the same time she observed two (2) dark green helicopters flying between USAIR flight 217 and the ball of fire. The helicopters appeared to be flying in a circular pattern, One (1) helicopter she noticed was flying in a easterly direction, around the southern portion of Long Island, and the
advised she could not northern portion of Long Island.
aboard because of the time of day, dusk.
noticed anything unusual prior to observing the fireball because she was watching the sunset and the land.
plane for a ew moments before departing the plane. After
other helicopter was flying in direction, around the
see if the helicopters had any
shaped ribbon of lights on the
of equipment oticed a U ted she had not
-tated at T.F. Green airport they sat on the
departing the plane -overheard a pilot and a co-pilot, A / \ c,
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whom she believes flew her plane, making comments such as, where was it, what was it.
While driving home in the car she heard on the radio about the TWA crash.
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date of birth: - home address: identity of viewing
m o d e Island, 02910, home telephone interviewed at his residence.
Agent and of the nature of the interview. the following information:
provided
He was in a window seat on the right side of USAIR FLIGHT 217 (7/17/96) when he saw what he thought to be a boat on the ocean below his plane. The plane was traveling in a northerly direction and the boat was going west at a speed which made "foam come out of the back of the boat".
He turned to his mother, who was sitting across the aisle from him, and told her that he thought he saw a boat. then turned back to the window and saw something red in the same location as the boat. He did not know what this red thing was in front of him but he watched it for approximately fifteen seconds and then it exploded. The explosion was very big with an orange fire.
He
He again turned to his mother and said that he had seen H i s mother replied that it was probably a bonfire. an explosion.
came over to his side of the plane, then flew past whatever it was
His sister looked out and saw below them.
He felt the boat looked like a medium sized vessel and was sure it had a cabin. the direction of the plane he was riding in.
It looked like the boat was coming into
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particular shape after being alerted by another individual on the boat.
The fireball fall rapidly, however, could not see where it landed due to an obstruction c a u s b y E a s t Jetty. The fireball appeared to be southeast of his location and he thought, at the time, that it landed on the dunes. As the fireball descended, it developed into a cylinder of flames and ultimately a similar shape of white smoke.
ame of another individual,- who was also on the boat and 'w may have had an earlier observation.
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white glow, looking like a flare, hanging in the air for five to ten seconds, drafting south and down, then it dropped quickly and then the flames enlar ed and bro e apart. He never saw a plane or any other object. -supplied a diagram which is attached as an enclosure.
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The following investigation was conducted by Senior Investigator THOMAS M. O'NEILL and Investigator KEVIN E. WALSH, of the New York State Police Department on July 2 4 , 1996:
informarion:
8:30 p.m., Great South Bay, Captree Bridge.
object grew larger and then started fall this process as looking like a firework
, 1996, at about boat heading east on 4 mile east of the le believed to be a red east. The flare-like ing. m e s c r i b e dud with sparks emanat
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down. He believed the object was closer than he n'ow bel' to have been, based on media accounts. Additionally, states that he based his estimation of the time of occurrence on the length of his boat trip. exact position of the boat.
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states 1996, at about were proceeding east on
He saw a
8:30 a.m. his friend
east of Captree
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West Warwick, ically interviewed IGHT 800, July 17, -
1996, off Long Island, New York.
dvised that on July 17, 1996, she and her USAIR FLIGHT 217 en route from Charlotte,
m o d e Island in ap roximately Row husband,
17. to her. She was looking out the window around 8:30 D . m . . down
She was in the window seat and her h u s b a n d , b was next
and to the right, when she saw a red/orange ball of ?herthat lasted for almost a minute. husband that she saw a plane on fire and he also looked. She kept looking and the fire kept on burning.
In the meantime, she told her
aw no smoke nor an airplane. The ball of u were in the sky, then it Dassed out of view
as FLIGHT 217 flew on. 25,000 feet as the plane had already started its descent to Providence.
She estimated FLIGHT 217/s height as
saw no light streaks or airplane before the fire. She the outline of the land where it met the water.
is a frequent flyer who is always looking out the windo
dvised that a white female, approximately in front of her asked afterwards @'Did vou
see that?". 4
FLIGHT 217 landed in Providence at 8:55 p.m.
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The following investigation was conducted on July 22, 1996 by Special Agent STACY R. DIAMOND and Special Agent PAUL T. PALUMBO of the New York Office of the Federal Investigation at Coram, New York:
Bureau of
-stated he was fishing in a boat on July 17, 1
e thinks the boat was facing east, bu The boat was Davis Park, New York.
three parts approxi H y 10 miles was not certain.
the water. He heard no explosion. boats in the water near the area of approximately 100 yards away from the site.
noticed a by-plane flying around 15 minutes before observing flames.
ocated in the bay between Patchogue, New York,
saw large orange flames coming down
observed a couple saw debris splas
white smoke coming down where the
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tated he was in a boat on July 17, 1996, ne-half (1/2) mile west of Patchogue, New York, in
the Great South Bay. The front of the boat was facing west. Off the back of the boat to the southeast, he saw three fire-like orange pieces coming down in the sky. One piece looked as if it had spaces in it like a venetian blind. He saw nothing going up only the fire-like pieces falling down. He thou ht he saw a splash. He tho t he had observed a flare. &aid he saw no smoke. e t a t e d , at the time of the occurrence, the sun was going down and it was twilight. He believed it was twenty (20) miles west of what he saw.
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On July 25, 1996, was interviewed by an
(FBI) at his r Middle Island, New York (NY), following information:
observed two (2)
sky. and that it had possibly been caused by a boat exploding. witnessing the first
on top of the first (1st) one.
After 1st) long fireball, a short space of time
elapsed and the& (2nd) fireball emerge
explosion, followed by a L
After the explosions, -saw helicopters flashing
ids told hin and his nepher:s what they heard on the news.
their lights and kcats travelling
thre
ack and forth across the id not know a plane crash had occurred until
and his nephevs left the area around 10:45PM and were a- erviewed by I?E:.;S 12 about what they had seen. that he did nct notice anything unusual prior to explosion.
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After being advised of the the interviewing agent and provided the following
outside the sky southeast
zke nature of the interview, ---,- __,,.ation: . - . -trrv?.
was on his dredger,
ter. The fireball did not "fall like a He then saw the fireball split into two pieces
tified the Coast Guard of the
he observed a _ - _ - 112s position. 2 s it descended _- - . . . In fact, ::ribails before water. When the fireballs hit the ,.P -.< "
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immediately plotted a course to the location fell. He believes his speed to the site was
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aiting Hollow, New light plane piloted
by her husband, on July 17, 1996, when she observed what she later learned was a flaming aircraft approximately 18 miles away. v a s seated in the left rear of the plane and the fire was a ead and to the right. She did not see any explosion, but saw the fire after her attention -,+*as directed to it by the other occupants of the plane.
learned that her observed the explosion and that it might be the plane
the WASHWICKs were flying.
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, E. Moriches, the following
information:
-as a passenger in the right rear seat of her husband’s airp ane on the evening of July 17, 1996 when her
the sky to the southeast of the airplane.
explosion as lar e as a building on its side, much larger than an airplane. believes i e fuel of an aircraft igniting in the air. She saw a separate streamer of the fire off to the left of the main fire, which seemed to split into two connected sections of flames.
husband exclaimed something, and drew her a light in light, then a few seconds later she saw a
aw this
initially thought it was fireworks, but now
She d i d not see what caused the fire or explosion.
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Home Telephone: Kork Telephone: Kork Address:
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It observe any smoke and
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Islip, New York, Date of f the identities of the
He thereafter provided the following information: Detective and the nature of the
interview.
at about
just left with his father,
New York, and were headed in a northwest direction. COLE noticed a flare out over the ocean fly into the sky. At first it appeared to be over the Great South Bay. The flare was orange in color and appeared to last for about twe seconds. an orange fireball explode. This occurred southeas position, directly beiiind the boat. The orange fireball appeared to break in two and fall into the ocean. At first he thought a boat had exploded.
m Et saw
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Islip, New York, Date of Birth, identities of the
nature of the interview. thereafter provided the following information:
when
several miles out over the ocean, and to the southeast of his location.
Barretts a P There was also a newlywed couple having their photographs taken.
recalled that there were several other boats at
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Babylon , New - f S r X , was contacted at his residence. identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the --._ v-ar-liew 1 ,-rovided the following information:
Aftef being advised of the
dinner with his
and R," which i was driving the
there's a plane happened a small
dvised his sister,
z c Isck up in the sky about a sraz3i-colored glowing ball of light travelling up in the sky. - c s s i rg s p , tke light appeared to travel an inch or two and then >?car. z 3 descend approximately stated
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tated that after spark, and once the flame or it broke into two pieces, one pulling off to
.- 0 left of its original path, burning on the way down, rcd/orange flames and black smoke.
noted that while the first ball of orange-colored ,:grit _ . descen e approximately four inches, he noticed a trail of Greyish white smoke coming directly from the glowing ball. 3ZiSWN did not notice this trail of smoke as the glow initially climbed.
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After the ball of red light hit the s:s:er stated "somebody just died." 1-sdioed the United States Coast Guard (USCG) describing what they saw. "?pocecniqueii training and asked if this might be what they saw.
One was a boat located in Shinnecock
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Ir.?et, the other was out in the Atlantic Ocean. Shizzecock Inlet thoilght he saw two planes collide and the boat 'ha.: was oceanside saw sorrething fall into the ocean.
At this point,
The USCG responded that the military was conducting
not sure what to think. Immediately s transmission, there were two additional
The boater in
tated that
climbed to the nd observed a large mass of flames out over the water. -. . - 2 ; s was at approximately 9 : i 5 PM. Curing this time, several
-.-ac.~e and amb Later in the - . --.ing, the
units were out there also. earned of the TWA Flight 800 crash into the
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On July 17, 1996, -was travelling from Charlotte, NC, to Providence, o e Island, on USAir Flight 217
vicinity of TWA Flight 800 when it as in seat 17F, looking out the window,
light. The lisht was about the size of a basketball. It was-not-moving and Gould brighten and dim. Initially, the flashing light was a
the light did not move. hen thought the light was a hazard light on a boat
not know the altitude of USAir Flight 217 but elieved USAir 217
was at about 30,000 feet because the P p ane begun its decent knew the plane was near the coast.
into Rhode Island from its cruising altitude at 37,000 feet.
as watching the light, it exploded. orange ball with a flame and a black
believed the explosion was either an oil tanker or a At the time of the
the woman sitting behind her, beeper and time displayed was 8:33 p.m.
explosion
-el$;;e;sthe
oil tanker.
incident to anyone in the flight crew. passengers in the row in front of her were s unaware of anyone else on the flight who may have seen the explosion.
in seat the explosion must be a boat crash or an discussed the incident with the
her). She did not mention the
advised she is a student at the UNIVERSITY
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as fishinq off of a boat in
boat was located in the northern
like object(FL0) for elght to ten seconds at which time it turned into a bright yellowish orange glow.
lame that descended towards the ocean in two pieces, lost sight of it beyond the horizon. Several minutes after
to be a bserved the flare
Moriches Inlet with
This glow turned into a where
W sight of the e x p l o s i o n ~ m e l l e d a fuel like odor which was different than any he recognized.
observed a large orange-rust colored boat, 250-300 feet in length
Inlet.
observe any aircraft in the area because of the low llght conditions.
Approxinately 20 minutes prior to the eXplOsi0-
like structures on its rear, south of Moriches thought this was cnusual because large commercial are rarely that close to the inlet. -did not
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interviewe East Moriches, New York, telephone number After being advised of the identities of the interviewlng Agents and the nature of the interview, LE BRUN provided the following information:
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reached the first red buoy marker, at about the Just cente south, he saw what appeared to be a boat flare shoot up into the sky from the horizon beyond Dune Road.
thought was that it was either a boat flare o Because it arose from south of Dune Road, a knew that it originated from the ocean.
oneybogue Bay, while facing due
advised that it was still light outside, and his fireworks.
, and asked and shaped
He turned to his her to look. The flare was like a round ball.
flarescended at the normal speed of a boat flare. The flare ascended straight up into the s k y .
There was no tail of smoke on the flare. who is faniliar with boat flares, advised that the
It did not arc or curve.
The flare ascended f o r about fifteen seconds. It then burst
I ob thought
that the yellow flash looked a little lightningfi. slightly larger than the flare itself.
';he vellow flash renained illuninated and descended. *b2fi-,q 'I
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then burst again into a huge fireball, yellow-orange in color. This second fireball was about twenty times the size of the yellow flash.
h i d not hear any sounds as the flare ascended, or w en the yellow flash and the huge fireball appeared. The fireball descended and eventual1 lost visual contact as it descended south of
three explosions after he lost visual contact. stimated that the entire event took about thirty
seconds.
At about the same time that he lost visual contact, aw a National Guard helicopter traveling from to the south in the direction of the fire. The
helicopter headed south into the ocean over the Beach Lane draw bridge.
'u ffered to revisit the exact point at which
he saw th
The interviewing Agents accompanied
stopped the boat at the first red buoy which is marked number 4 , located in the center of the Moneybogue Bay. buoy is the point at which boats would begin to make their bearings westbound in order to travel through the Jessup Lane Bridge and into Moriches Bay.
mile east of the
he saw the The direction which
2 3 foot boat to the point where he saw the
The
pointed his boat in the direction in which reading vas 173 degrees south.
ointed was about one quarter of a
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advised that on July 17, 1996. he was sitting
t x t fie suddenly saw an orange/red flare appearing two degrees aib9TJe the boats. He stated that, at first, the flare was small and circular, but then grew into a large fireball. - saw tw,;=: flat sheets spiraling off of the fireball. tA?e flreball was 8,000 IC r-lles off shore. appeared 8 or 9 degrees a ove the horizon. fireball was visible for about four seconds.
2xplgs:or. ar.d stated that, because of his distance from the ~ x p l z s l ~ ~ slght, he would not have been able to see any white s-.c<e : r a < l s .
at two boats in front of a buoy. He stated
He estimated that 10 000 feet high and approximately 8 to
advised that the fireball first that the recalled
b tnat the night was clear. He described
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-advised on July 17, 1996, he was surfing with a group of friends Smith’s Point side was accompanied by Two other subjects names. A t about 8 boat. His boat wa at the facility on Moriches Bay. -recalled that he was looking south over the port side of the boat when he noticed a reddish/pink flare ascending upward into the sky. He stated that he first observed this flare when it was halfway through it’s flight.
that after falling, another flash of fire occurred h at t e ocean into a huge ball of fire which fell from the sky.
level in what he now thinks was the TWA jet exploding on the surf ace. flstated he did not notice any erratic pattern to t h e rising He atated that he thought the rising flare originated from the beach side of the barrier island. possibly just a little to the east of his location. He noticed no curve to the flares path of travel. of the plane occurred several miles out into the ocean.
The boat was facing west.
This flare then e anded stated - -
are nor did he notice any smoke.
He stated that it originated due south or
He estimated that the crash
He was interviewed at-hT<”
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Y e w York. H is deck, on the evening of the Flight 800 incident, he heard three ( 3 ) loud noises. He s t a t e d t h a t he thought the loud noises were thunder and did not thlnK it w a s related to the airplane incident until the following 3 a y . Mr.- could o f f e r no further relative information.
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rbriches, N.Y. a white female, DOB
ocean, several hours earlier, on the evening of 7/17/96. Mr. Finne advised as follows:
OBSWVATIONS OF SCOTT PINNE:
At approx. 8 : 3 0 PM, on the evening of Wednesday, 7/'17/95, Scott Finne and his wife Chrismas were driving down Dune iioad in Westhampton Beach, N.Y. fire which had damaged a home the previous night, in the vicinity zf Dune Road. he has been a Fireman with the Eastport N.Y. Fire Dept.
As he and his wife drove in Mr. Finne's truck, something in Lhe sky caught his eye. orange glow, and he got the feeling that it w a s a plane, it was on fire. srange glow, as opposed to the usual white lights of passing aircraft, and that this was why he looked up.
They were going to look at a
Mr. Finne explained that for the last five years
He recalled it as a n and that
He stated that his eye had been drawn to this
The plane, which seemed to now be going in a westerly
At this point he had no idea what type or size plane direction, laid over onto its left side, and was holding together. it was, but it appeared to be 2 to 3 miles off shore.
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While the plane was in this attitude, it exploded into tian enormous curtain of fire", which M r m described as "the brightest orange", and as lasting approx. three ( 3 ) seconds. He stated that he did not see the impact of the plane, and heard no concussion, and that he immediately ran to the top of the steps of Rogers Beach Pavilion, and looked out at the water, and only saw a column of white smoke.
Mr-stated that the point of impact in the water
road, Westhampton Beach, N . Y . stated that he immediately phoned officer SKI, of the Southampton . Police Dept.
seemed to be in a straight line ers Beach Club, on Dune 53 . t- . I & .'r ;; : ,>.r-.
Mr. - stated that almost immediately after the -'>.a crash, a dark green helicopter with what seemed alike a machine gun mounted on it, flew overhead, heading directly out toward the crash site.
L m stated that this was the sum total of his observations.
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Dated truraiptk. 7/29/96
On July 29, 1996, SAS William F. Lynch, Peter C . FBI, received from Deputy inspector *asazza?and Paul Shea
DOUGLAS MATULEWICH and VINCENT TERMINE, Suffolk county Police Dept., (SCPD)-Marine Bureau, a compass intersection rendering of witness sightings of TWA flight # 800, and/or a "flare", which appeared to have been launched in the direction of flight # 800, just before it exploded and crashed into the ocean approximately 8:30 PM, on Wednesday, 7/17/96.
This rendering was prepared by Messrs MATULEWICH and TERMINE, based upon witness observations given to all of the above personnel, and to Officer Charles Gerlach, SCPD-Marine Bureau, and Robert Doherty and Tom LeBlanc, of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), over the period 7/20-29/96. witness observations/interviews had been done jointly/severally, by the above personnel.
The
The purpose of this endeavor was to learn if the azimuth intersections of witness sightings might indicate a site or general area from which the aformentioned "flare" might have been launched.
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The witness info upon which this rendering is based, consisted of; sightings of TWA flight # 800; sightings of an unusual @@flare" launched in the direction of flight # 800, which "flaren seemed t o adjust its own course; an orange impact/glow upon flight # 800; sightings of a subsequent large and violent aerial explosion; and the ultimate crashing of flight # 800 into the ocean.
ivestigation ou ?/20-29/96 at EAST MORICHES, N. Y . Pilet 265 A NY 259028
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by SA PETER C. CASAZZA. SA P A E S H E A Date dictated 7/29/96
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~ontinurtion of ~ ~ - 3 0 2 of COMPASS INTERSECTIONS ,On 7/20-29/96.P~* 2
Listed below are the names of the witnesses, and the sites they occupied at the time they observed either TWA flight # 800, or the "flare" which appeared to rise, to meet it.
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East jetty, Moriches inlet.
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M% From his boat, approx. 1 mile off shore from Moriches inlet, East Moriches, N . Y .
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During the period cited, the aforementioned FBI, DIA and SCPD personnel personally visited the exact sites which the witnesses had occupied at approx. 8:30 pM, on 7/17/96.
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At each site, officers Matulewich and Termine used a naval compass and a Gamin Global Positioning System (GPS-45) instrument to shoot/process the azimuths along which the witnesses had reported their observations on the above date and time .
Based upon the witness info, and upon the best calculations of officers Matulewich and.Te,mine, the following results were obtained:
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TO: New York A t t n : ASAC George Andrew . :..* . :?2,-.
Steven A. Bongardt, ext. 8277
Herman Neil E Lang Thomas F
Drafted By: Bongardt Steven A:sa#
C88e ID I: 265A-NY-259028 (Pending)
Title: UNSUB(S) ; ** - EXPLOSION-&' TWA FLXGHT 800;
AOT- IT-EID JULY 17, 1996;
3 Bynopsist on the night of July 17, 1996.
Bnelosures:
Flare sightings plotting report of selected witnesses
One copy of FD-302 by SAs William F. Lynch and Peter uty Inspector Douqlas S o
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DOtail8: Deputy Inspector Douglas Matulewich, along with Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and, on certain occasions; analysts from the Defense Intelligence Agency, plotted left and right lines of sight bearings from eight different witness locations from which eleven witnesses reported seeing flare-like objects rising immediately before the crash of TWA Flight 800 on the night of July 17, 1996, on or about 8:30 p.m. local. Deputy Inspector Matulewich used a Global Positioning System / G . P . S . ) device to ascertain the witnesses exact location and plotted his results on a U . S . Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Cart number 12353 in degrees magnetic.
Deputy Inspector Matulewich had been in contact with SAs Theodore Otto and Steven Bongardt prior to the release of his final report and had provided the same following locations as the result of his plotting work for possible MANPAD (Man Portable Air Defense/ shoulder launched missile) shooter locations:
L Z ~ S ,w a s ~ o ~ ~ c ~ a% 1- LAT 40 degrees 40.68 minutes North
2. LAT 40 degrees 39.19 minutes North LONG 072 degrees 40.66 minutes West
LONG 072 degrees 37.29 minutes West
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These locations have been used in providing possible locations of a "PAD launch tube or 'Stinger" eject motor for *
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acoustic side-scan sonar and possible recovery. Matulewich strongly recommended that these locations and an area within a minimum of one nautical mile of these locations be searched . foreign MANPADS obtained from the Defense Intelligence Agency which might have been used against TWA Plight 800. locations are just outside of the preliminary envelope obtained from the U . S . Army for the U.S. 'Stinger' missile system. The Army will provide a more accurate envelope after careful modeling .
Deputy Inspector
These locations are within the preliminary envelope of
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On October 7, 1996, Special Agents (SAS) WILLIAM F. LYNCH and PETER C. CASAZZA, of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), obtained from
. Bureau, the below listed items all cham regdering Inspector MATULEWICH had done regarding TRANS WORLD AIRWAYS (TWA) flight # 800.
M A T W L E W I ~ . a+ the SuffolkCauntv
This rendwpg-Wa8 based upon FBI interviews done between July 20-30, 1996 of eleven (11) witnesses who had obsented a "flare-like" object rising up toward flight # 800, just beforedt exploded and crashed into the sea off the coast of Long Island, New York (N.Y.), approximately 8 r 3 1 PM, on the evening of July 17, 1996. These various sightings had raised the possibility that a missile might have been fired at, and caused the destruction of flight # 800.
during those initial FBI interviews, or was brought back to interview those witnesses, in order to obtain compass readings from the spots from which those witnesses had made their sightings at the time of the flight # 800 explosion.
u Deputy Inspector MATULEWICH had either been present
EPght (8) of those witnesses had been in the company of an accompanying witness, while three (3) of the witnesses had made sightings while alone.
The purpose of taking those compass readings was to obtain intersections of witness flare sightings of which might allow for the description of a possible sea-borne launch area from which a missile might have been launched toward flight # 800, if, in fact one was.
Deputy Inspector MATULEWICH's rendering did allow for the description of an area from which a missile could have been launched, and which area might be.logically searched for either aircraft/missile debris, or an abandoned missile launcher. Obtained from Deputy Inspector MATULEWICH this date, were:
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by SA PETER C. CASAZ-ZA Date dictated 10/7/96 SA WILLIAM F. LYNCH
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suggests an area that should logically be searched.
2. A one page summary listing the eleven (11) witnesses which sets forth in latitude and longitude readings, their positions at the time of their sightings of a "flare-like" object rising up toward .- flight # 800.
3. Seven ( 7 ) , more detailed pages, setting forth the names of the paired or individual witnesses; the names of the FBI agents who interviewed t h e b e p u t y Inspector MATULEW1c"s actions upon meeting with those witnesses, and the latitude and longitude readings MATULEWICH obtained as a result of meeting with those witnesses. - - 4. plotted by Deputy Inspector MATULEWICH showing the resultant intersection of those sightings.
A marine bureau map on which the witness sighting8 were
u/ 5 . ROBERT DOHERTY, of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) which he (DOHERTY) hud previously given to Deputy Inspector MATULEWICH, and which MATULEWICH also gave to SAS LYNCH and CASAZZA, on this date.
Also included is a hand drawn transparency generated by
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ROBERT J. GAFFNEY COUNTY EXECUTIVE
POLICE DEPARTMENT
September 18, 1996
SA Peter Casazza SA William F. Lynch SA' Paul Shea Federal Bureau of Investigation 135 Pinelawn Rd. - Suite 350 South Melville, NY 11747 - Gentlemen: - -
On Saturday, July 20,1996, I became involved in a joint effort to determine the possibility of a missile shooting down TWA flight 800. The objective w a s to determine if the observations of eye witnesses could be plotted on a chart to determine a location from which a missile was shot.
Enclosed a r e the recordings of witness observation locations, of witnesses -who on the evening of 7/17/96 saw a "flare-like" object rising immediately before the crash of TW.9 flight 800. These locatkns are indicated in Latitude (LAT) and Longitude (LONG). In addition are the results of the magnetic bearings taken with a hand held magnetic compass of these observations.
The results of these observations have been plotted on chart number 12353 (17th Ed. , June 13/92) Shinnecock Light to Fire Island Light, published at Washington, D.C. by U . S . Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
- The course of TWA flight 800 on 7/17/96 at approximately 2030
hrs. has been plotted on chart number 12353. The results of the various lines of positions of the witnesses observations have been p l o t t e d on chart 12353. The flight path of TWA flight 800 may be overlaid with tracing paper which has missile information (to scale! provided by Robert Doherty 'Bf the-Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). All of this information taken together indicate to me the very real possibility that if a rocket w a s used to shoot down TWA f l i g h t 800 the "shooter" would have had t o been at one of the following locations:
Ll 1. TJAT 40'40.68" TjONG 072'40.66'W
aa3t 30 YAPHANK AVENUE, YAPHANK, NEW YORK 11980 - (516) 852-6000
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2. LAT 40'39.19'N LONG 072'37.29'W
The above Latitude and Longitude locations INDICATES THE CENTER OF AN AREA THAT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED TO BE SEARCHED AND AT A MINIMUM A ONE ( 1 ) nautical mile area should be searched fo r the remains of equipment that would launch a portable missile. The possibilityexists that the equipment was discarded and now remains on the ocean floor.
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LAT 40'37.613" LONG 073"15.742'W Hand held magnetic compass was 098'.
LAT 40'40.961'N LONG 073'00.221'W Hand h e l d magnetic compass was 110'.
LAT 40'45.104'N LONG 072'55.968'W Hand held magnetic colrrpaks- was ' -124" .
LAT 40'45.745'N LONG 072'46.573'W Hand held magnetic compass was 150' Hand held magnetic compass was 155'.
LAT 40'48.172" LONG 072'45.321 'W Hand held magnetic compass was 152'. Hand held magnetic compass was 160'.
- LAT 40'49.18'7'N LONG 072 ' 39 ..003 ' W Hand held magnetic compass was 185" Hand held magnetic compass was 187'
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T,AT 40"50.295'N T,ONG 072'28.526'W Hand h e l d magnetic compass was 225'. Hani! held magnetic compass was 22.7'
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Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH Suffolk Count Police Department <- r. 2 On 7/30/96, at the request of SA PAUL SHEA of t h e FBI, Deputy
Marine Bureau, met with -and -at the Fire Island Coast Guard Station, Babylon, New
ad previously indicated that they rising over the ocean, on
the crash of TWA flight in the U.S. Coast directed the boat location of their
800. The
cdxswain, Petty Officer RANDY RYAN observations on 7/17/96.
When the -%dicated that CG 44341 was in the exact location as their 7/17/96 observations of TWA flight 800, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following .readings as indicated on' his Garmin GPS 45: LAT 40'37.613'N, LONG 073'15.742'W. From this location also indicated to D/I Matulewich
as the location of the observations in relationship to the re Island Light House and the magnetic bearing indicated on D/I Matulewich's hand held magnetic compass was 098'.
On 7/29/96, at the request of SA PAUL SHEA of the FBI, Deputy - ~ . ~ -,--;";* . ;: . .>*
Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH, Suffolk County Police Department -.&?
Marine Bureau, met with at Davis Park Marina, -- q: Fire Island, New York. . .3$< d had previously indicated that she had observed . . . :? ct rising over the ocean, on the
ook D / I MATULEWICH to the location on the on 7/17/96.
before the crash of TWA flight 800.
When indicated that she was in the exact location s w d on 7/17/96, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as indicated on his Garmin GPS 45: LAT 40'40.96&, 'LONG 073'00.221'W. From this location also indicated to D / I MATULEWICH by was the location of her observations in relationship to th e beach and water, and tl-ie-magnetic bearing indicated on D/I MATULEWICH'S hand held magnetic compass was 110'.
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On 7/30/96, at the request of SA PAUL SHEA of the FBI, Deputy . .?.4&T> u** ~ unty Police Department - -- Inspector DOUGLAS MATUL Marine Bureau, met with at the Bellport Yacht, Bellport, New York.
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-had previously indicated that he had observed a . .
"flare- ike" object rising over the ocean, on the evening of 7/17/96, immediately before the crash of TWA flight #800.
\-)returned to the exact seat and location that he occupied on the night of 7/17/96, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as indicated on his Garmin GPS 45: LAT 40°45.104'N, LONG 072'55.968'W From this location also indicated to D/I MATULEWICH by \-)was the location of his obset+st*io'ns, starting with an object with a red glow, which rose from east to west. The position of the object with the red glow, in relationship to the Smith Point Pavilion was indicated to 'D/I MATULEWICW and the magnetic bearing of the indicated bearing on D/I MATULEWICH'S hand held magnetic compass was 124".
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Marine Bureau, met w i t h m a n - at Great Gun Beach Marina, Fire Islan ew or
Indicated to Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS observations on 7/17/96 of TWA FLIGHT 800 by
were made from a boat approximately
From the indicated area on the dock, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as indicated on his Gamin
as' indicated to Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH.
GPS 4 5 : LAT 4 0 ' 4 5 . 7 4 W ' : LONG also indicated to D/I was the location of the room building-and a flag pole.
The magnetic bearing to the right side of the rest room building indicated on D/I MATULEWICH'S hand held magnetic compass
The magnetic bearing to the flag pole indicated on D/I MATULEWTCH'S hand held magnetic compass was 155'.
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Deputy Inspector Department Marine Bureau, Abbott's Hart's I . . .\.
Indicated to Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS observations on 7/17/96 of TWA FLIGHT 800 by o w e r e made from the dock behind their indicated area on the dock, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as indicated on h i s Garmin, GPS 45: LAT 40'48.172'N, indicated to D/I the location of the dock, a Coast Guard Auwi'lary boat also docked on the dock, and to numerous poles on the shore, which were used as a reference point.
The magnetic bearing to the right side of the end of the dock indicated on D/I MATULEWICH'S hand heldmagnetic compass was 152'.
The magnetic bearing to the flag pole indicated on the 'd hand held magnetic compass was 160".
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On 7/20/96, at the request of SA WILLIAM F. LYNCH of the FBI, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH, Suffolk County Police '- -' -''''T''* -.
Department Marine Bureau, met with ROBERT DOHERETY of the Defense . + Intelligence Agency (DIA) at t h e Westhampton Beach High School, New York. ',$k..
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Indicated to Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH was that the
-h:E:e observations on 7/17/96 of TWA FLIGHT 800 by made from the parking lot of the Westhampton From t h e indicated area in the school's parking lot, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as in'dicated on his Garmin GPS 45: LAT 40'49.187'N, LONG 072'39.003'W. From this location also indicated to D / I Matulewich by ROBERT DOHERETP was the location of the observations in relationship the several telephone pol+abh'ich were used as a reference points.
The magnetic bearing to the left side of the observations indicated onT/T MATULEWTCH'S hand held magnetic compass was 1 8 5 ' . The magnetic bearing to the right side of the observations indicated on D/T MATULEWICH'S hand held magnetic compass was 187'.
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On 7/22/96, at the request of SA Paul Shea of the FBI, DePutv Inspector DOUGLAS MATULE Suffolk Count Police De artment Marine Bureau, met with - a n d b a t &
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to Spellmans Marine and were taken out on- oat t o the area of the Shinnecock Inlet. Indicated to
7/17/96 of TWA FLIGHT 800 by were made from a boat as east jetty of the Shinnecock inlet.
From the indicated area in the Shinnecock Inlet, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS MATULEWICH took the following readings as indicated on his Garmin GPSs.45: LAT 40°50.295'N, LONG 072'28.526'W. From this location a@%?$ indicated to D/I MATULEWICH by 0 -as the location of the observations in relationship to the stern of h i s own boat and a Coast Guard 44 foot Motor Life Boat which was opefating in the area.
Two observations were taken from on 7/22/96, observation #1 the magnetic bearing in - hand bearing compass was 225'. Observation #2 the magnetic bearing indicated on D/I MATULEWICH'S hand bearing compass was 223'.
-indicted to D/I MATULEWTCH from this location the direction of-his observations of TWA flight 800 on 7/17/96 in relationship to the stern of the boat and a Coast Guard 44 foot Boat which was operating in t h e area.
held magnetic compass was 223'.
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was inteiviewed by Detective MICHAEL CALVIN and Detective GARY R. MILLER-of the Suffolk County Polic: Department. The interview was conducted on July 20, 1996.
On July 17, 1996, shortly after 8:30 PM, he was sitting on a bench at the Bellport dock, which is at the south end of Station Road in Bellport. He was facing southeast towards Smith Point Bridge and saw a red streak rise from the horizon. He thought it was fireworks being fired from Smith Point Beach over the ocean. It appeared to be sporadic as it ascended but he attributed that to the light haze over the water. a slight angle to the right, very high and then curved downward slightly and then leveled off (see attached drawing by witness) and appeared to explode resulting in two similar objects falling down. He stated that it appeared to be two planes colliding. At the time of the explosion, he judged that it was two-three (2-3) miles off shore. The red streak was basically ascending straight and no zigzag pattern was noted but did feel that it traveled very high.
It ascended at
No sounds were heard.
Note: Detective CALVIN and Dgtective MILLER took the witness to the Bellport dock and he visually placed the origin of the red streak in a line from the dock directly over the pavilion at the Smith Point Beach, but the streak was beyond the pavilion. When the debris fell, he felt that it was to the right of the pavilion.
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FZTER C. CASAZZA and PAUL SHEA, Federal bureau of Investigation ;7E311. , - M r . m was interviewed regarding his observations of :he crash o ight # 800, 0,". the evening of July 17, 1996. ne acivised as follows: _ _
On july 17, 1996, was sitting on :?e dock, inmediately in fr E?--?ort, Y.Y. iiis lad ..- q - - , a23 as they talked, + - C ^ _- ssuth-east, che
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I: i:as appr.=xima , when he first noticed something, . .____.. he zcw feels was significant. He also recalls that what he csszrved seemed to have three distinct stages, and to consume
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-,..+ - ..--Lcea an D b j e c t rising vertically, off in the distance, near sln:~:? 2oir,t Park. The object had a red "glow" about it, and rose
r o s e , the "red glow" coming from behind the object was irtsrrupted twice. After the second interruption, it again began
7 t ~ 3 . c about thirty ( 3 0 ) seconds to rise to its zenith, and c:r-r,snted that at the time, he didn't think it remarkable, kecause - . the -fireworks factory is located in Bellport, and r i l r ewcrks are requently seen in Bellport.
cy,, L - J . , i the east to =he west, on a steep angle. He noted that as it
- ? _ _ -low, and continued to climb, quickly. He estimated that it
In its second stage, after it reached its zenith, the
object "arc-ed" downward, for what seemed to - to be approximately ten (10) seconds.
In its third and final stage, the object sped off quickly on a flat, horizontal course, for approximately fifteen
said to , look ! I f .
he recalls that it was at this point that he
As the object sped off on its now horizontal course,
see it. M s . m looked up to find what Mr.-had mentioned, b11t
It was at approximately this point, when Mr. witnessed a violent explosion, which occurred in two
THE EXPLOSION:
The first stage of the explosion lasted only one (1) to two ( 2 ) seconds, and yielded only a small red explosion.
This however, was followed by a second explosion,
He also recalled that the explosion then which Mr.- described as tremendous, and which was "bright white" in color. resulted in two distinct pieces falling from the sky. He recalled that these falling pieces were "medium to orange-yellow" in color.
-recalled the piece on the left as smaller, and as descending in a sort of I1box-likeii shape, with two black smoke "lines" in the middle of it.
The other piece, on the right, was of the same color and shape, but was larger, and had three black smoke "linesii the middle of it.
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The two parts of falling debris consumed approximately +' a.
>"c, fifteen (15) seconds, as they fell; fell at the same rate of speed, and seemed to "driftii downward.
Mr.-stated that he was very rn what he had seen, but had no idea what signific
to him :t was only at this point, that he realized that he had seen different things, namely, the rising "objectii, and the subs explosions, and he added that it was not until later t ha t n when he learned that TWA flight # 800 had crashed, that he
how did you know that would happen . that after the large explosion Ms.
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to the personal conclusion that what he had seen was a missile hitting the TWA plane.
-stated that he only wears eyeglasses for reading, and has excellent eyesight. He stated that his personal life experience included four years (1956-60) in the U . S . Marine Corps, in which he served as a crew chief in Marine C o r p s helicopter squadron HMR-161, i n Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. He stated that while in the Marine Corps, he was an excellent p i s t o l shot, and that his eyesight today is such that he is still an'kcellent shot. He added that while in the Marine Corps, he also had a top secret security clearance.
-stated that after he heard on the television news t at a TWA plane had crashed, he was very uneasy, and didn't sleep much that night, and that the next day, he phoned the FBI office i n Melville, N.Y., to report what he had seen, which subsequently resulted in his interview of this date.
During this interview, Deputy Inspector DOUGLAS YATULEWICH, olice Department (SCPD) -Marine
azimuths, Bureau, using
Positioning System (GPS-45) instrument.
information, "shot" magnetic compass them using a Garmin Global
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New York (NY) was advised as
the inquiry wherein she provided the following information:
-is spending a few weeks in Westhampton Beach, studying for the New York Bar Exam. She will be in Westhampton
through her parents at Beach until August 4 , be contacted
EMaryland-, - stated at approximately 8 : 30PM on [Wednesday], she was jogging on the beach, eastbound. said her attention was drawn to some light and then a of fire which she saw out of the corner of her e e 'U toward her
stated there were two (2) distinct nuclei to the fire.
observed y. said she did not hear anything. fall slowly, but in two (2) stages or evels.
the ocean at the same rate followed by black smoke.
said she was not able to determine what was actually on parts of the fire. m said she recalled feeling some ground vibrations subsequent to seeing the fireball impact in the ocean.
ire, but was able to make out the two (2) separate
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FD-302 (Rev. 3-10-82)
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07/26/96 Date of transcription
Drive, Patchogue, New York 11772, was advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, they provided the following information:
17, 1996, at approximately 8:30 PM, on their boat , from Patchogue, New York, to Nicholas Bay, New York, the southern direction They could provide no further information.
up from the horizon.
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On July 19, 1996 at approximately 9:23 AM, M s . ~ - telephonically contacted the off ice of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Melville, New York. MCCONNELL lives at-
regard to the crash of TWA flig
East Moriches, and her call was in mephone number is
w advised that on the evening of July 17, 1996 at approximately 8:30 PM (it was after sunset) she was with her husband sitting on her deck at her residence. The deck faces south toward the bay. They then noticed a streak in the south east arcing toward the sky which they thought was a flare. She described this flare as having a Itflickering light." She believes this tlflarell emanated either from the bay or from the Westhampton Beach area. Shortly thereafter she saw what appeared to be an explosion but did not hear any sound. She did not see an airplane and she did not know at the time what this explosion represented.
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Date of Birth N e w 'Ilsrk,
was advised of the -nterview:ng agent and the purpose of f,rn:shed t h e foliowing inforrnatlon:
=was sitting outslde the Swan River, a snack bar in - ;3st F'atchogue, on Wednesday, July 17, 1996. At approximately 3 3 3 2 - 9 : O O P.M.m observed a large red glow followed by a crig~t red tail i n g from the sky. No noise accompanied the za~+:za 2 c b j e c t . It took apprcxirnately 30 seconds for the objects : r ~ f a i l - ceyond the horizon. - _ _
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Highway, specific location unknown, on 07/17/96, at dusk, observed a red streak following a red ball in a flat direction, west bound, paralleling the vehicle. Mrs. -states that she observed the streak for about three to our s
drop down and disappeare Mrs -- e ind the trees. Location was later saw red flames.
determined to be west bound Sunrise, Route 27, west of Shinnecock Canal overpass.
onds and then states she observed the flames
Statement also taken from-(driver) .
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On 7-30-96 -, [-E YONKERS,N.Y. was contacted by SA CHARLES A. MULDOON, JR.. - supplied the following information:
17, 1996 at approximately 8:44pm
Two (2) explosions. First a loud later by a smaller one. When
bright flare in the sky,
were fishing off Shinnecock inlet on
explosions he saw what
up or was in trouble. like the sound of a see the explosion separate explosions.
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m resides immediately adjacent to the shoreline of Long Island sound in Westbrook, Connecticut, and at atmroximatelv 8:15 p . m . on J u l ed that he went to th&*be ch- a friend,-'- stated that he a n d a t a short wa a ong t e eac an returned back to the seawall
property at approximately ted tha
stated at that point, his
s sitting on the seawall and each other when his brother
Long Island and Michele was facing Long Island.
_ _ _ with .ook at
.t he
tated that at that point in time, he recalled said look at that or whats that and- looked wards Long Island in an approximate
stated what he observed in the sky
color of what he
no its fireworks
his brother
southeast direction. was a red arc which a t at time he believed to be a red distress
had observed.
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recalled saying look
is was happening while watching Long Island, and when it
ning sky there came an orange he was stated that
reached a certain point in explosion and at that point neither looking at a boat fireworks. rather than the ploom effect of fireworks floating glow of a distress flare, what he-did notice appeared to be a sheet of flame which he described. as an upside down
to fall stated
rectangle in relation to the sky and the rectangle s as a sheet and then as it fell seemed to dissipate.
twinkling away as it fell back towards earth. that the sheet broke up as it fell and almost
Investigation on 7 - 2 6 - 9 6 at Westbrook, Connecticut '(-,
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-stated that there were two colors emblazoned in his mind, the red arc going up from the earth to the sky and the yellowish orange color almost like that of a fireplace fire coming down from the sky towards earth.
-stated that at no time during the incident did he notice any noise but attributed that to the fact that he was talking at the time.
-estimated that the entire elapsed time of the episode was probably 7 to 10 seconds and after the episode there was no residual glow in the sky nor did he observe any glow over the horizon.
h s t a t e d that his initial feeling was that he believed it was occurring; however, immediately after that felt that what he had observed w
than he origi Y a y thought and believes it was as far away as Long Island or beyond that.
e was watching something occurring 3 to 5 miles away as
much further away and much larger in stated that it was at a much greater distance L perspective.
-stated that he was talking to -h before and Approximately 10 minutes after their observations,
after the incident and that they talked about w at they had observed.
stated that the emergency horn went off in the Town of est rook and at approximately 9 : 0 0 p.m. he observed two police
-stated that patrol boats with flashing lights responding. one of the patrol boats came from the east and
where was standing at about a point he described as twelve
wa e other from the
seemed to rondevous at a point directly south of
ey had come from. stated that the patrol boats then went back in
m stated that visibility on the evening of July 17, evening sky was very clear and the stated the sky and water almost
mirrored each other
1996, was very good a water was very calm.
gray-bluish water. -stated it was a very nice evening.
-stated that there is a blinking beacon on Long Island which fires off every ten seconds or so and whatever he had observed in the evening sky on that night, the rising arc and
effect was a gray-bluish sky and
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right of the beacon. -stated he recalled the outline of Long Island, the beacon and Menunketsuck Island as points of reference. - was provided with three previously prepared maps, one showing a detail of the coastline of Westbrook, Connecticut, to include Magna Lane, a second map including the coastline of Westbrook and Menunketsuck Island, and a final map showing the coastline of Connecticut to include Westbrook, Connecticut, with
placed an X indicating his position on July 17, 1996, at th wall at the time of his observation. On the second map, drew a dotted line indicating the direction of his observa of the arc and subsequent e 'on on the
m h i s
Magna Lane first map,
evening of July 17, 1996. On the third map, dotted line with arrow indicating the direct observation from Magna Lane towards Long Island on the evening of July 17, 1996.
ed in relation to Long Island, New York. On the
also drew a s
u m also provided a pen and ink drawing depicting his observations on the evening of July 17, 1996, to include his ~ - -__ observation point in WestbGook, Connecticut, viewing southeast toward Long Island, New York, and detailing Long Island, the
placed a capital A in a beacon he observed and utilizing reference point. On the drawing circle and indicated the red ascen rng arc and a capital B in a circle indicating a oran
side of the beacon the Wf o servations occurred, but it would have to earth from the sky.
been very close to either the left or right side of the beacon.
etsuck Island as a m et of rectangular flame descending stated that he was not sure on what
-stated that shortly after 9 : O O p . m called her mo er in Killingworth and - d r o v e w e , probably departing Westbrook at 9:30 p. Killingworth at 9 : 5 0 p.m. -6tated that both
stated that even at that point he hadn't made any connection to their observations, however, they then sat down and watched a big screen TV which had on CNN. The CNN broadcast showed a graphic of an explosion of the type of plane tha mentioned East Moriches, Long Island. stated when he saw! the graphic and heard Long Island he started to think about what they saw and when CNN mentioned the time frame in which the crash
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had occurred he got goosebumps and looked at- and both had recognition on their faces and indicated they thought they had seen that happen. - stated he is skeptical by nature and initially didn't think he had actually observed the explosion but subsequently he heard local news of a woman in Noank, Connecticut and a gentlemen in Madison, Connecticut, who had witnessed the same type of event and at that point he became very confident that he had witnessed the same event. - stated that he wasn't going to call the news like the other people he had heard on the news, and believed that his association with the incident
00 remote and would not be valuable or worth discussing. stated a neighbor encouraged him to reach out for the
authorities and to the best of his recollection he called the telephone number set up by the Federal Bureau of Investigation ( F B I ) 1-888-245-4636 on last Tuesday and spoke with an agent for approximately 20 minutes.
Angeles, California, telephone Miss- is currently chang: k s not hav a current w n ~ for her. Additionally- etated that believed m n d they live in :an be reached at telephone number y b e l e to provide more up to date infom?tion on Mia employment and contact number at work.
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=provided the following information:
On July 17, a boat located west of the Ponquogue southwest. His friend,
-(Last Name incident to his attention.
It took off like the space shuttle. When the fire
From behind the dunes, a tube of reddish/orange fire appeared to go straight up into the sky. It appeared to be 100 feet wide and 1/2 mile high. reached the highest point, it appeared to split into two pieces. At this point, the flame disappeared and a big black smoke cloud appeared. The black smoke remained for a couple of seconds. Then, a white puff of smoke appeared above the area of the black smoke cloud. remained fo r at least four or five minutes. after he left the area Twenty to twenty-five seconds after the initial sighting, -heard two booms'back to back.
The black smoke disappeared and the white smoke The smoke remained
Investigation on 7 / 2 0 / 9 6 at Hampton Bays, New York
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4-b Dat ..:ii!!al - was contacted regarding observations he made on the evening of July 17, 1996. Curro was interviewed by Special Agents Peter C. Casazza and Paul Shea of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Also present during the interview was Deputy Inspector Douglas Matulewich, Suffolk County Police Department (SCPD), Commanding Officer of the Marine Bureau; Robert Doherty and Thomas LeBlanc, Analysts, Missile and Space Intelligence Center, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama,
Securit Account Number ( S S A N Hampton Bay, New York (NY), telephone number
-Observations :
-related that on the evening of July 17, 1996, at approximately 8:45PM, he was in a boat immediately to the west side of the Ponquogue Bridge, looking south at the barrier island when he noticed something out of the corner of his eye.
-described what he saw as a red glow in the southwest, going straight up for approximately three ( 3 ) seconds. Then there was what he described as a separation in this red glow as it reached its highest point; a red flame then went upward from the red glow.
After the glow went out, what remained was black smoke with white smoke on top of the black smoke.
-then heard two ( 2 ) big booms about twenty-five
-related that this whole occurrence must have been
( 2 5 ) seconds later; one after the other.
far away, because the entire event was low on the horizon, approximately at eye level.
Position and comDass readinss taken:
-was taken out to the location where he made his observation west of the Ponquogue Bridge. Deputy Ins
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Douglas Matulewich took a compass reading. positioning system instrument called a Garmin GPS 4 5 , Matulewich located approximately the exact position cf the witness at the time he made his observations.
With a global '
Deputy Inspector Matulewich recorded these readings for future plotting on a maritime chart.
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interviewingagents and the purpose of the interview, and thereafter provided the following information:
On Wednesday evening, July 17, 1996, he was sitting at the west dock in West Sayville, facing in an East South East (ESE) direction. off.
He arrived there a little after 8:OO Pn to cool It was dusk at the time and the sky was dimly lit.
As he was looking toward the sky, at approximately 8:30 PM, he saw a large explosion, followed a-few seconds later by a second explosion, which appeared to be behind and lower in relation to the first.
ESE of him f and that, a the time, he estimated it to be in the vicinity of Patchogue.
a giant fireball in the sky and was orange in color. seemed smaller and behind the first one. they seemed to have jelled together, with jagged edges as they streaked to earth. Eventually, after approximately one minute, everything seeaed to fade away.
explained that this occurrence happened LJ
advised that the first explosion caused The second
As they fell to earth,
stated that, initially, he thought that , but realized that it was much more
He heard no noise nor did he see any smoke. serious.
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of the interview, provided the following information.
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and saw a thin plume of flame rising up from the horizon to a point several hundred feet in the air approximately thirty seconds later he saw a second plume of flame approximately one- half the height of the first. After a short time (approximately
to thirty seconds), he heard a sound like dull thunder. described the location of the flash as southeast of the Adelaide Avenue.
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information.
On July 17, 1 9 9 6 , m w a s on her boat near Great Gunn. She was sitting on t he observation deck looking southeast. She was not sure what time it was but described the time as dusk, and she was looking for stars, when she saw an orange glow. The orange glow appeared to be rising but did not move laterally. The glow then spread out and cascaded like a waterfall, this was followed by a second flash and additional orange flame like cascade. rising from t h e horizon. -heard no sound with the flashes or cascading flames.
The cascade was followed by a plume of black smoke
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advised the following information:
the second floor of his home looking toward Copsogue, w en he saw a thin red flash to the Southeast of his home. narrow and rose upward over hundred feet. later, he saw a second flash approximately one half the height of the first. After a period of time, ten to thirty seconds, he heard three separate explosions followed by columns of black smoke rising from the horizon.
At approximately 8:30PM on July 17, 1996,- was on
The flame was Five to ten seconds
Eash flash lasted between five to ten seconds.
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Securit Account Nu er si ing at armingdale, New York telephone nu er s contacted and in or as to the identity of -- Agent and the purpose of the interview.
m stated that they were about to go fishing in the vicinity of the East Shinnecock Jetty which is located off Halsey Neck Road in Shinnecock. - - reported that he was checking the tires on his car when he looked out towards the Shinnecock Inlet and observed what he termed a fully engulfed in flames.
heading towards the ocean. The flames were most intense, most bright toyards the front of the plane and less intense towards the rear. ,
ropping towards the ocean said that it looked just
like a rocket ship when except this object was
Because of the distance of the fallina nhi-o+ 5-A
J - ----a having his view obstructed by large st _- grass he was unable to see the plane crash into the ocean
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-advised that his friend
-, is on in Montauk, - ---,.. residence and left message for
him to contact (FBI) (Intervic . I later learned that Mr. ta ing at
Roor ,located in Montauk, New Yc,.,
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to contact FBI.
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D Date of Birth was contacted and informed as to the identitv nf
elephonically reported that at Wednesday, July 17, 1996, he was in a car
travelling past towards the Shinnecock Canal when he observed a gray military aircraft flying overhead South towards the water. He was unable to see any markings on the plane.
destination which was a beach area called Shinnecock East.
friends. Shinnecock, near the East Shinnecock Jetty.
reported that upon arrival at the beach. He exited t h e e n t down at the right f ront tire in order to reduce the tire pressure which would allow the vehicle drive on the beach. As he was doing this, he heard a thud. He then turned hi? head towards the direction of the ocean and looked in the s k y . , .
Shortly after this observation, he arrived at his final
At this location, he was going to go fishing with his This beach is located off Halsey Neck Road in
He observed vertical flames in a cigar-shaped cylinder falling slowly towards the ocean. seemed stationary.
For a short time the object
At this point, he alerted hie friend,- to IS
call the 'Coast Guard.
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He said that the search for plane wreckage should be focused outside the Shinnecock Inlet. As your heading south towards the ocean at the one or two o'clock position.
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interviewing Special Agents and Suffolk County Police Detective, they provided the following information:
On July 17, 1996, between 8:33PM to 8:35PM, travelling from Sailors Haven to Dockside 5 0 0 , 90 Colonial Drive, Patchogue, NY, past buoy 37,
and arcing off in the air. The T t a t e d that they saw an explosion which looked ljke a waterfa 1, similar to a fireworks explosion. from either land or water. They stated that after the explosion they called into the Coast Guard to notify them of the events.
stated that while looking southeast they saw streak travelling upwards
They could not determine if the streak originated
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* 1. Boat's name: 4-J registratio-
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2 . Cellular phone number - 3 . Taking trip from Ju 25, 1996,
They provided no further information.
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interviewing Special Agents and Suffolk County Police Detective, they provided the following information:
On July 17, 1996, between 8:33PM to 8:35PM, travelling from Sailors Haven to Dockside 500, 90 Colonial Drive, Patchogue,
southeast they saw NY, past buoy 37,
and arcing off in the air. explosion which looked lite a waterfall, similar to a fireworks explosion. from either land or water. they called into the Coast Guard to notify them of the events.
stated that while looking streak travelling upwards
The -stated that they saw an
They stated that after the explosion They could nut determine if the streak originated
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2. Cellular phone number-
3. Taking t r ip from Ju 25, 1 9 9 6 ,
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On- home address interviewed Patchogue, New IS1 identifie A ent of the Federal Bureau of 9 provided the following information:
advised that he and his wife were on Mascot Dock locate !R at't e end of South Ocean Street, in Patchogue, New York. 8:30 P . M . , they observed a bright orange fireball. what locked like a flare shoot up from the firebail the fireball fall to the ocean. The fireball lasted about 10 to 20 seconds.
On July 17, 1996 they were watching planes when at about
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The following investigation was conducted by Detectives
All three persons were standing on the dock of Corey Beach and facing south towards the water (Great South Bay), observed a large orange ball in the sky. ball looked like it was on fire and then it broke into two pieces and fell to the ground.
They said this orange
None of the three persons interviewed observed any object ascending from the water.
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The following inves t iga t ion was conducted by Detectives
A l l three persons were standing on the dock of Coray Beach and facing south towards the water (Great South Bay), observed a l a rge orange ba l l i n t h e sky. b a l l looked l i k e it was on f ire and then it broke i n t o two pieces and fe l l t o the ground.
They said t h i s orange
None of t he three persons interviewed observed any b objec t ascending from the water.
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265A-NY-259028 JL: nac ob a- JOHN LOMBARD1 and JAMES HAYES of the Suffolk County Police Department on July 24, 1996:
The following investigation was conducted by Detectives
All three persons were standing on the dock of Corey Beach and facing south towards the water (Great South Bay), observed a large orange ball in the sky. ball looked like it was on fire and then it broke into two pieces and fell to the ground.
They said this orange
None of the three persons interviewed observed any object ascending from the water.
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the interviewing agenfs and the nature of the interview. They then furnished the following information:
On July 17, 1996, at approximately 8: 15 PM, were aboard their personal water craft with their d two young aughters traveling northwest approximately 1/4 mile
west on the bay side of the Moriches Inlet. muggy but clear and visibte, just beginning to get dark. As the sun was under the horizon, which was to the right of the boat, a bright glow, which was described as orangey-red and perfectly round, appeared on the ocean side of the inlet just west of the west buoy and south of their boat. It seemed like it came off the horizon and rose slowly, weaving as it continued upward. At first they thought it might have been a Qlare, but realized that it was too huge. degree angle going in a westerly direction.
It was hazy and
It traveled diagonally at an approximate 70
The object rose in the sky for approximately six (6) secondb, leaving a white smoke trail in its wake. It then disappeared from sight for approximately 1/2 second. After that time, without a sound of an explorion, a large oval ball of fire
the area where the object was last seen. that the ball of fire came straight down.
the ball of fire came down traveling The ball broke into two separate balls
of fire before it hit the water.
Although they could not gauge the distances that either the object or the ball of fire traveled, they estimated the launch point to be 10-15 m i l e s off the beach shore. thought, the whole incident, which elapsed in approximately ten (10) seconds, appeared to occur much closer than it actually was. After the ball of fire landed, two boaters were heard on the radio, channel 74, reacting to the fireball.
At first
It appeared that
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they were aware of what had transpired either. their transmissions, they were working on the waters rather than being pleasure boats. southern drawl and it appeared that neither of the vessels were going to stay in the area to assist in any type of rescue if necessary. the inciden-position of h i s boat i n relation to the launch point. 33b
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One of the radio operators spoke with a
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male; and a white female,
then furnished the following information:
On July 17, 1996, at approximately 8: 15 PM, were aboard their personal water craft with their d two young aughters traveling northwest approximately 1/4 mile
west on the bay side of the Moriches Inlet. muggy but clear and visibie, just beginning to get dark. As the sun was under the horizon, which was to the right of the boat, a bright glcw, which was described as orangey-red and perfectly round, appeared on the ocean side of the inlet just west of the west buoy and south of their boat. It seemed like it came off the horizon and rose slowly, weaving as it continued upward. At first they thought it might have been a €lare, but realized that it was too huge. degree angle going in a westerly direction.
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It traveled diagonally at an approximate 70
The object rose in the sky for approximately six (6) second&, leaving a white smoke trail in its wake. It then disappeared from sight for approximately 1/2 second. After that time, without a sound of an explorion, a large oval ball of fire
thought that the ball of fire came down traveling in an easter y direction. of fire before it hit the water.
eared ust above the area where the object was last seen. thought that the ball of fire came straight down.
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Although they could not gauge the distances that either the object or the ball of fire traveled, they estimated the launch point to be 10-15 miles off the beach shore. thought, the whole incident, which elapsed in approximately ten (10) seconds, appeared to occur much closer than it actually was. After the ball of fire landed, two boaters were heard on the radio, channel 74, reacting to the fireball.
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they were aware of what had transpired either. their transmissions, they were working on the waters rather than being pleasure boats. One of the radio operators spoke with a southern drawl and it appeared that neither of the vessels were going to stay in the area to assist in any type of rescue if necessary. then provided a sketch of the area of the i n c i d e n m p o s i t i o n of his boat in relation to the launch point. 373~
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On July 178 1996, was riding on a boat with and his w m o a t was traveling north
from Barrett Bay on Fire Island to Green Creek, Sayville.
approximately 8:30 pm,/saw a "fireH in the sky. -believes she was 2 3 of the way to Green Creek, when at
o w a s fairly eastward when out of the corner of her eye she saw a red and orange light traveling up from the ground of the ocean. top than at
light c a m e all one piece.
was too big to
The red and orange light was larger at the to have a tail but it was not see where the red and orange
it was a flare but decided it *
-saw the light for approximately 3 seconds
-did not hear or see any explosion.
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Atlantic Ocean, directly to the South. To their right was Moriches Bay Inlet and to the left was Shinnecock Bay Inlet.
The - stated that during the time period between 8:20 p.m. and 8:30 p.m., they could not see any planes, boats or people around, except for a dredger-type boat to their west. The
dot in the sky above the Atlantic Ocean, whiah 1aakW .-2ikexaarr' W C ~ + @ ~ flare, The - stated that from their vantage point. the red - dot was located at approximately 12:OO to 12:30 in the sky above them.
-stated that at approximately 8 : 3 0 p.m., they eaw a red '-$.-a
The -stated that the red dot grew in size to an oval or oblong shape that was reddish/orange in color, moving from a west to east direction, from approximately a 12:30 to an 11:30 position.
The -stated that as the shape approached the 11:30 position, the shape exploded, and came down like a curtain of flame. 3%
\-, a former employee at - stated that once she saw the explosion, she began counting seconds in order to calculate the amount of time it took for the sound of the explosion to reach her. She stated it took approximately ten (10) seconds before she heard the sound of the explosion. She stated that the first explosion was immediately followed by three ( 3 ) additional explosions which occurred one right after the other. She believed that the explosion was roughly ten to
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fifteen (10-15) miles off shore, -Bue*-to"her ~ O U Q that it took for her to hear the explosion.
The -stated that once the curtain of flarnes+frorn ,..+-*$ the explosion hit the water, a large amount of gray smoke was visible from their vantage point. immediately after the flames hit the water, they saw a military- type helicopter approach the crash site.
The-stated that
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The -stated that after the crash a s y lappZ'WBohedJ~~WW4h an elderly couple near them who they later discovered were
explosion. The -tated that the elderly couple said they did not see anything.
pharmacists. They asked the couple if they had j u s t seen the 51
The -stated that immediately after talking to the elderly couple, they approached the receptionist's desk at WESTHAMPTON BEACH AND TENNIS CLUB, and told the girl behind the desk to call the police, which she did.
the WESTHAMPTON BEACH AND TENNIS CLUB filming a movie. believe that a male, five feet nine inches (5'9"), Caucasian, with a ponytail, may also have seen the plane crash.
In addition, the -stated that a film crew w a s at They u
On July 18, 1996, the -came back to the boat slip at WINDSWEPT MARINA, 215 Atlantic Avenue, East Moriches, NY 11940, telephone (516) 878-2100, via a boat named CONTROL C, and gave approximately two (2) hours aorth of interviews to news reporters. -stated that he spoke to many news reporters, but he particularly remembered contacting CBS News and WINS Radio.
The -also stated that the owner of WINDSWEPT MARINA had a dredge boat out in the water. They believed that the crew of the dredge boat may have had a better view of the crash.
3N f-istated that after hearing that a TWA jet
had, in fact, crashed in the ocean and aftp h .*ring news rerxts that a missile may have been fired at the jet, he thought he remembered seeing a stream of white or grey smoke prior to seeing the red dot in the sky at approximately 8 : 3 0 p.m. -
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s t a t e d t h a t from h i s angle and the stream of smoke s t a t e d she d i d not
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On July 17, 1996, the -stated they were sta6ding .Ir.K*
on a flat -platformed ramp behind WESTHAMPIQN *BEACH*-AB6 *---9l#- CLUB, Westhampton, NY, between 8 : 2 0 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. (duek).
Atlantic Ocean, directly to the South. To their right was Moriches Bay Inlet and to the left was Shinnecock Bay Inlet.
They stated they had a totally clear view overlooking the - *
The - stated that during the time period between 8:20 p.m. and 8:30 p.m., they could not see any planes, boats or people around, except for a dredger-type boat to their west.
dot in the sky above the Atlantic Ocean, which looked-like.a.:'. -:L*! w-1 flare, dot was located at approximately 1 2 : O O to 12:30 in the eky above them.
The -stated that at approximately 8:30 p.m., they eaw a red - r'
LJ The -stated that from their vantage point the red -2-H
The -stated that the red dot grew in size to an oval or oblong shape that was reddish/orange in color, moving from a west to east direction, from approximately a 12:30 to an 11:30 position.
The -stated that as the shape approached the 11:30 position, the shape exploded, and came down l i k e a curtain of flame.
345 i-b, a former employee at 0 stated that
once she saw the explosion, she began counting seconds in order to calculate the amount of time it took for the sound of the explosion to reach her. (IO) seconds before she heard the sound of the explosion. stated that the first explosion was immediately followed by three ( 3 ) additional explosions which occurred one right after the other. She believed that the explosion was roughly ten to
She stated it took approximately ten She
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fifteen (10-15) miles off ehore, .~ue*~tw~en< that it took for her to hear the explosion.
The -stated that once the curtain of flame8.,-from ..,..*a the explosion hit the water, a large amount of gray smoke was visible from their vantage point. immediately after the flames hit the water, they saw a military-
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an elderly couple near them who they later discovered were pharmacists. explosion. did not see anything.
The-stated that
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L. They asked the couple if they had just eeen the The -tated that the elderly couple said they
The -stated that immediately after talking to the elderly couple, they approached the receptionist's desk at WESTHAMPTON BEACH AND TENNIS CLUB, and told the girl behind the desk to call the police, which she did.
, :*$' * .p, *&=I $* " . W In addition, the-stated that a film crew was at
the WESTHAMPTON BEACH AND TENNIS CLUB filming a movie. They . . * ".
believe that a male, five feet nine inches (S'S"), Caucasian, with a ponytail, may also have seen the plane crash.
On July 18, 1996, the -came back to the boat slip at WINDSWEPT MARINA, 215 Atlantic Avenue, East Moriches, NY 11940, telephone (516) 878-2100, via a boat named CONTROL C, and gave approximatel two ( 2 ) hours borth of interviews to news reporters. d s t a t e d that he spoke to many news reporters, but he particularly remembered contacting CBS News and WINS Radio.
The -also stated that the owner of WINDSWEPT MARINA had a dredge boat out in the water. the crew of the dredge boat may have had a better view of the crash.
had, in fact, crashed in the ocean and aftp h -Iring news rerxts that a missile may have been fired at the jet, he thought he remembered seeing a stream of white or grey smoke prior to seeing the red dot in the sky at approximately 8:30 p.m.
They believed that
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came s t r a i g h t up t o t h e p lane . see a stream of smoke.
s t a t e d t h a t from h i s angle and t h e stream of smoke s t a t e d she d i d not
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=and- were interviewed by Detective GARY MILLER and Detective MICHAEL CALVIN of the Suffolk County Police Department. The interview was conducted on July 22, 1996.
Interview conducted by the undersigned and Detective MICHAEL CALVIN #729, on July 22 , 1996 at 120 hours.
Interviewees:
and his wife were sitting on the outside story of their home on the southwest
side. He was facing southwest which gives him a view over Tiana Bay to Dune Road and beyond. He saw two red streaks, very vivid in color, ascend from what appeared to be Dune Road and traveled straight, slightly west to east. He guessed it was two miles away. He brought it to the attention of his wife, who turned and saw one streak go west to east straight across the horizon just above the dune line. up, as they assumed it was fireworks. The streaks he saw were side by side and very close, and he does wear glasses.
then heard what she thought was thunder, f o l l o w e a
a very loud thump which they felt. She knew something was not
placed the origin of the streak(s) in a line from his home southwest. Just to the east side of Pine Neck Point. It was light out and the sun had fallen behind a tree line to the west.
They did not follow.the streak all the way
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The interview was conducted on July 22, 1996. GARY MILLER and Detectlve MICHAEL CALVIN of the Suffolk County Police Department.
Interview conducted by the undersigned and Detective MICHAEL CALVIN #729, on July 22, 1996 at 120 hours.
Interviewees:
and his wife were sitting on the outside story of their home on the southwest
side. He was facing southwest which gives him a view over Tiana Bay to Dune Road and beyond. He saw two red streaks, very vivid in color, ascend from what appeared to be Dune Road and traveled straight, slightly west to east. away. He brought it to the attention of his wife, who turned and saw one streak go west to east straight across the horizon just above the dune line. up, as they assumed it was fireworks. The streaks he saw were
then heard what she thought was thunder, followe by a
She knew something was not
He guessed it was two miles
They did not follow.the streak all the way
a side and very close, and he does wear glasses.
which she described as a Concord jet, followed by
396 a very loud thump which they felt. right and looked at her watch, which read 8:30 PM. - placed the origin of the streak(s) in a line from his home southwest. Just to the east side of Pine Neck Point. It was light out and the sun had fallen behind a tree line to the west.
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