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A ORUM FOR ENGINEERtNG CONCEPTS
The ob Situation: the naked truthThe Co-op system at Waterloo has been history for 25
years, but lately the history it's been making has been
something all those concerned would just as soon forget.During th e last week, the CBC, CTV and Global ha ve alJscooped stories on the grim outlook for students in the Coop program , and the Toronto Star and Iron Warrior 's main
rival, the KW Record, have run articles which seem topreclude the imminent doom of the system.
Ian Tennant was quoted as saying, among other things,
that Co-op is bursting apart at the seams , and the Star
stated the issue as the problem is si.mple: No Work". The
media have a job to do, thatis, report the news, butin order
to make it interesting the case is often overs tated.
Even the hard, cold facts do not really tell the whole
story. Of the 3741 students in co-operative programs who
ar e 01' should be on work terms at this time, fully 847 were
un placed s of Wed. Jan. 5th, or 22.6%. Of these 407students were unplaced i.n the 6 branches of Engineering:
73 /208 Chem Eng110/248 eiv Eng671387 Elec Eng81 24 Geol Eng
119/383 Mech Eng
30 /160 Sys DesWhen this figure of 847 is cast up against approx
imately 200 who were out looking during the last week ofAug us t, t he re is ce rt ainly reaso n enough to s tep bac k and
t ke' deep brea h. As lim ilson, ssociate Director of
Co-op said: It is the most difficult placement we've ev er
had in the 25 year history of th e university , but that doesnot make it writeoff.
Di rec tl y before Christmas break there were 999unplaced students and in a blitz over the Christmas
period. 99 of these were placed. This figure has in the
meantime dropped to the 847 quoted earlier . A technique
which was first used last term is the questioning ofreturning students about the availability of positions at
their past placements , and this resulted in approximately
70 of the remaining students at that time being placed.
lim Wilson expects that by the middle of January the effect
of this term's interview blitz will begin to be noticed and asizeable chunk will be taken out of the number of unplaced
students.
With these precarious economic conditions. employers
are becoming more hesitant to commit themselves fourdnd eight months in advance. and more and more of the
positions which become available do so only very late inthe term, i.e. after interviews are done. In hedging their
bets in t his fashion the employers are threatening the most
unique aspect of Co-op at Waterloo, the computer
matching which enables both student and employer tohave more choice than the more conventiona l 1:1 system
allows , but concessions to the economic situation must bemade. and i this is where, then so be it .
The difficulties currently being encountered stem at
least part ly from the fact that it is inherently more difficul tto place students in the winter term than in the fall, forexample. In fall. students coming out to work are in the
2nd, 3rd, 5th and 6 th work terms. i.e. two senior classes,
and intermediate class and the junior class with onework term alrpudy under their belt, whereas the winter
among other things, a surfei t of junior students is evident.
In addition to this fact, by the natural trimming down
process, the fall term is not forced to deal with the sheernumber of students coming onto work term in winter. This
can be as much as 500 students more than in the fall term.
Put into this perspective. things look a little differently.
The co-ordinators have been very busy lately and the
university is doing its utmost to take up the slack. Anoptimistic way to look at the current situation is that, forinstance. in the steel industry. which normally accounts
for 125 to 150 students per term, there are virtually none
being employed today. so that things could hardly getworse. The same can be said for the mining and pulp and
paper industries.
Curiously. the automobile industry has not let up
whatsoever and General Motors has, among other things,
instituted a new scholarship for students on workterms
with them. based not on marks. but rather on the
work term, work reports. an interview and other criteria.
Ontario Hydro, which late in the fall cancelled allpositions has in the meantime taken on quite a number ofstudents after interviews, .but then UW and Ontario
Hydro have long had a strong working relationship.
18M, another big employer of Co-op students, has beendoing wonders of late. so much so in fact that they have
almost as many students as the two major employers. the
federal and provincial governments.
The university too has stepped up considerably the
number of students employed on campus. President
Douglas Wright, in a very positi ve memo to the Deans and
Department Heads, encourages the placement of students
on campus wherever possible, and results to date have
yielded an increase from 66 to 136 positions currently.
This figure is rising daily. In spite of the recession , the
amount of money being funnelled into research at UW has
been on the upswing. and this too has opened more
positions. Obviously the Department of Co-ordination
and Placement has the full support of the university
administration. There are even two students employed
within the Department of Co-ordination to maintain
• contact wi t h the unplaced st uden ts, in a role of student coordinators.
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A comprehensi ve list of new methods of job recruit ment
was given out by the Dean early in December of last year,
and one of the methods suggested there and enthus
iastically pushed by Jim Wilson is the new contract hiringmethod . In order to cut red tape or help get around hiring
freezes. students are placed on a temporary help basis,
most for a term of 4 months. So far interest in this new formhas been from the federal and provincial governments and
from some corporations as well. Jim Wilson thinks that
this may be the way to go in the future.
A great deal has been made of the push to induce
Waterloo alumni to influence their employers, and
thereby increase job openings. but many more campaigns
are underway .Several professional publications have or
will have advertisements, which. when attempted
previously on a limited scale, produced results.
Participation in a local exposition recently brought in anumber of inquiries about hiring students.
The hundreds of government aid prog rams to assist
employers have been examined carefully and the handful
which may be applicable to Co-op students have been put
into kit form for use by the co-ordinators in their jobsearches. The notion of job sharing is under development,
or at least being considered. and most importantly,students are relying less on co-ordination, but rather are
using connections of their own. and acti vely going out onthe job search. In the past this option was usually left till astudent remained unplaced at the end of term. but such isnot the case today.
It must be noted however, that circumstances being
what they are the normal requirements for the number of
work terms may have to be reduced. The Faculty of
Engineering will not place students at a disadvantage, if
for reasons over which they have no control, they do not
obtain a job in this or next term . The situations will behandled individually as they come in, but the requirement
of four satisfactory work reports is still to to be upheld,
even if a student must research a topic on his own.
Maybe times are tough, but no one is lying down on the
Job. It may just take a little more effort though.
TorontoStar onCo op
Reprinted with permission othe Toronto Star
by John Spears Toronto Star
The economic recession is
battering students in the Univer
sity of Waterloo's work-study
program this winter
The problem is simple: NoWork.
Students in the work-study, or
co-op program alternate study
terms with stretches of up to 17
weeks of practical work in a jobrelated to their course of study .
But of 3.700 Waterloo co-op
students heading out for a work
term starting in the New Year,
nearly 1.000 were without firm
job offers when the universitv
closed for the Christma break. 'That's five times the usual
numbers who haven't found
work by Christmas says Tom
Fitzgerald. one of the co-op ad
ministrators.
And although Waterloo officials say they expect several hun
dred co-op students will land
jobs by early Janua['y, they admi tthe scope of the problem is un
precedented.The problem is serious because
co-op students aren't just graded
on their academic work. They
must complete a certain number
of work terms in course-related
jobs in order to earn theirdegrees.
Jim Wilson, associate director
of the co-op program, says nostudent will be penalized if the
right job simply can't be found,
but the university may have .tochange some rules if the re
cession deepens and students
miss more than one work term.
This winter is a sharp contrast
to recent years, he says.
A year ago, and for the pre
vious four or five years. there
were three and four jobs a:vailable for every upper-year stu
dent. and plenty of jobs for all
students, he says. That sit
uation evaporated a year ago."Even in the fall term, 98 per
cent of the co-op students got
course-related jobs, Wilson says,
but prospects for the winter term
are discouraging.
Very restricted
Where we are having the
greatest difficulty is .in engin
eerin$ and science, but partic
ularly at the junior level," Wilson says. (Con't on page 9)
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From the
President s
eskEditorial the first
Before I get started, I would
like to take a few lines to welcome
everybody back to campus for
the term . I'd also like to extend aspecial welcome to the 18 stu
dents and to those 4B students
who have just joined us from EngSoc A . For the rest of you , you 'llfind we have no QEMF, no 8-month stream change, and a new
POETs Pub . Events for this term
are well into the planning stage
and look promising. Don ' t forget,we need your help .
The big news right now is thecurrent job situation. This ap
plies to both co-op and graduate
placements. It was reported by
Jan Tennant from Global News
on Tuesday, January 4, 1983that
the Waterloo co-op scheme is
falling apart at the seams and
on the brink of collapse . This is
certainly not true . Her comments
amount to nothing more than
irresponsible journalism and ahigh degree of sensationalism. Isuggest that Ms . Tennant should
seriously consider the ramificat
ions of her statements before
making them public or she might
be looking for a job. t is through
this forum, the editorial. that
such opinionated commentsshould be made and certainly nol
in a news item.
There is no denying that there
is a shortage of jobs for co-op
students. t would be folly to
state the contrary. When the sit
uation is going to change is any
body's guess. t the moment itseems that we must weather the
storm and wait for the economy
to pick up and blow fresh wind
into Wat erloo's sails.
Until then we must be more in
novative and agressive than ever
before . Through a great deal of
effort on the part of the Coordination Department we did
achieve over 98% placement inthe fall term. They will continue
to work harder a t get ling the jobs
but Ihe students must also help
ou1. If you have a job from last
term , think twice before not
returning. f you know of apossible job opening, think 1wice
about turning it down or at least
make an effort to inform your coordinator about it for another
student. Use some previous con
tacts. Perhaps a job is available
for you from old employers or
from other people you have
worked with . Gelling a co-op or
grad job is not going to be easy,
but even now at Waterloo we've
still got a big head start.
Finally, on behalf of all st u dents in engineering, I would like
to pass on best wishes for aspeedy recovery to Ray Wieser.
Ray, Director of Co-ordinationand Placement, suffered a heart
attack this fan and is currentlyrecovering at home.
Mark Liddy, President
Engineering Society 8
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Editorial
In its present form, QEMF has left us. Perhaps permanently. On the
occasion of its demise, all sorts of accolades were heaped upon the
organizers of the effort for a job well done; many thanks were handed
out for making the student body, and to some degree, others outside the
lIniversitv communitv aware of some of the effects of a lack of funding.
Sad to say, tha t's just abou t all that it has done to that though. Engineers
tend to have a very pragmatic view of their surroundings however, andnow that we are all aware 01 the problem, it is time to set the gears in
motion once again.Firstly of course, the ideas have to exist. We thought the hard partwas
thrashing out wording of QEMF last summer, but all that came tonought since the concept never reached the prototype stage. I suspect
there is some similarity here to the frustration a backbencher feels in
Parliament. Now we are back at square one, essentially. Of course, the
doors within the university syste.m are hammering away at the problem
with calls for alumni donations and the expansion of WATFUND,
neither of which is an insignificant effort; but we,·the students, can and
should be doers too.The onus lies on our compatriots in A Society to get the ball rolling
for the second round. Even though they were the ones who originally
came up with the concept of QEMF almost one year ago, they were also
responsible for its torpedoing in the fall term. But, we don't have to sit
around on our duffs and expect them to come up with something, and Iwould be very disappointed if that were to happen. ..
After the sinking of the good ship QEMF approximately three months
ago, the YES and NO factions put their heads -together. The NO
cOll1mittee too recognized the need for additional funding, and they had
quite a few suggestions for alternate solutions to the problem. Ideas
were sought from the student bodyingeneral andit is hoped to keep this
an ongoing process.
But that is not the only area which can be addressed when we talkahout the quality of our education. We sp Aod fft08tol our time in school
attending lectures , so that our professors have a whole lot to do with the
quality of our education. I am not implying here that the situation isgetting worse, as is the case with funding (or lack thereof), but in
dealing with human beings, there is always room for improvement.
Course critiques are an important portion of the process, but let's step
back and take a look at the issue. After all, itis good engineering practice
to define your problem before you set out in search of a solution.
What is it exactly that we expect from our professors? Whatis good or
effective teaching? can define that in my terms, if think about it, but
my terms are surely not going to be the same as yours. Do the professors
live up to your expectations of what you feel they should be doing? Isthat effective teaching?
Iron Warrior broached this subject with some professors in the
~ p a r t m e n t of Management Science, and the first thing pointed out, if
weat there is an issue to be raised regarding'the quality of teachingwithin the faculty, then we must first come to terms with the definition
of the problem.
A professor is rewarded for his research.-He must do a certain amount
of research to maintain his status within his field. His chief bargaining
power wilh the uni versity is his reputation, how he is regarded by his
peers in his area of specialization. Very little motivates a professor toteach well. Why should he pay any attention to teaching at all, for that
matter?
Obviously, there is not one single way to teach well. f you think about
the various p,rofessors you've had whom you felt taught well, I am sure
you are hard put to determine what made them good. But there must besome common traits among them, there must be a bevy of little tricks
to make their styles of teaching more effective. f we are going topinpoint this effectiveness, this seems like the way to start.
We at the Iron Warrior would like you to think the issue over. The
other side of the coin must also be examined. f we don't get any direct
feedback from professors, wecan and will actively go out seeking it. But
first, we need you. Your opinions, your ideas and your definitions. Once
we know what we are looking for, the task is simplified considerably.
The only way to change it is to make an issue out ofil and the only way tomake an issue out of it is to demonstrate the need for change.
The fact that this is a new university. not haunted by the ghosts oftradition, is certainly in our favour. Time and again new innovations in
courses and equipment have been introduced here, but this time,instead of introducing something new, why not make an improvement
onpn older method? At the risk of sounding cliche, our education cannot
be allowed to be static, and this is one way, without the use of extra
funding, in which we can contribute to the betterment of our
educational environments. But this is not a project to be undertaken by
one person, or even a small group. t must come from us, you, the
students, and even the professors. Let's get the show on the road.
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A Soc Defeats QEMF
QEMF is dead. The campaignwhich began in March almost one
year ago was brought to ascreeching halt when Eng Soc
A , the originators of the idea.
failed to produce the supportdeemed necessary as mandate forsuch a vital issue.
After we in S Soc turned in81% of the votes in favour of
QEMF with our 78 turnout inJuly, the issue was turned over toA Soc where the requisite 213
plus one majority was not gener
ated. Voter turnout of 63
produced a majority of 55% infavour of QEMF, 12% shy of the
necessary margin as laid out in
the rules for the Quality of
Education Maintenance Fund .There seems to be general
agreement that the proposal wasbrought down due to its general
ity. A very active NO campaign
had focussed their attention on
points wi thin the st ructure of the
QEMF proposal. There was very
little if any mention of a cam
paign against the principle ofQEMF.Mark Liddy, president of Eng
Soc S was close to the issueduring campaign development in
the fall term and mentioned thatA Soc students had become
more wrapped up in the details of
the proposal, which may have
caused them to stray from the
central issue; the idea behind
QEMF . Mark felt that these
details could always have been
worked out and students should
have voted according to the
ge neral principle behind QEMF.
Where do we go from here?Dean Lennox, who was under
st a ndably disappointed with theresu lts , is continuing the can
vassing of alumni and is activelysearching for new sources of
funding . Mark Liddy and JeffCox, president ngSoc A , hmet with the NO campaigners todiscuss alternatives, and some
ideas have been brought forward
in the aftermath of QEMF's
defeat. Slllce it was A Soc who
brought the house down the onus
is up on th em to resurrect the
campa in to maintain the quality
of our education , but that is not to
say that we in B Soc can standidly by and let them go it solo.
Certa inl y. if anyone has a brilliant notion, let it be known. The
issue of declining quality of
education is far from gone itmust now be approached from
otherangles.
Watfund : Alternative to QEMF?
Last summer, over 80% of avoter turnout from Engineering
Society B vo ted Yes' to the
Q.E.M.F ., indicating their will
ingness to pay an extra $50 aftereach work term. However, afterthe Q.E.M.F. was not accepted by
Engineering Society A, the rich
but concerned co-op st uden ts
who voted Yes might be con
sidering alternatives to it .Two outlets for individual
donations to University activ
ities are the Sanford Fleming
Foundation, which will be dis
cussed in a later issue, and the
WATFUND.The WATFUND is a five-year
development programme which
allows indiVIduals and corpor-
' ations to contribute to the Uni
versity of Waterloo's innovative
education and research. These
donations are sent to the Office of
Development and Alumni Af
fairs in Needles Hall. The WAT
FUND will be used for capital
development, laboratory equip
ment, academic development,
scholarships and fellowships
and special library acquisitions.
The capital development, which
will use a majority of the pro-
jected funds. includes the following projects: Instil ute forComputer Research. Kinesiology
and Health Studies Laboratories,
Earth Sciences Teaching andResearch Facilities. Physical
Recreation Facility. Engineering.
Mathematics, and Science library. Specialized Engineering
Laboratories. UW Engineeringwill benefit from projected fund
ing for laborator} upgrading andattracting professors. under
graduates and graduate students.
The contributors include cor
porations and foundations. (who
pay the largest percentage).
associations, pri\'atedonors. UWfaculty, staff and students. The
UW faculty and staff have made
generous donations. With over
40 of them participating. theiraverage contribution is about
400. UW students will provide
$1 .5 million overfiveyears to pay
for a new arena recreational
building. So far. about $9.5million of the total campaign goal
of $21 million has been raised.
There are basically two ways
in which money can be given tothe WATFUND. Firstly, un
restricted funds are provided by
a contributor who does notdesignate where they are to go.Secondlr, restricted funds aregi\en b}; contributors who spec
if\' what the mone\ IS to be usedfor. For e ample. 'a corporation
may invest m u n ~ on the con
dition that it be used for research
beneficial to one of its industries.
Furthermore. all contributions
to the WATFUND are atll'activeinvestments because they areincome ta deductable. '
Wit hits eAis t i ng st ruct ure, can
voluntary contributions to the
WATFUND be used to perform
the function intended for the
Q.E.M.F?
The Q.E.M.F. had a couple of
advantages. While funds received into the WATFUND are
irregular and often require many
months to obtain, the Q.E.t-.1.F.would have provided a fast
predictable source of money.Reliable funds enable greater
flexibility for those who spendthem. Also, the engineering stu
dents would have largely con
trolled the Q.E.M.F. and directed
it towards upgrading engineering laboratories. However, iforganized, students could con
trol their contributions to WAT-
PEKING EXPRESS
GOOD FOOD
FU fO.lt is pos ible for groups of
students and facult\' to assemble
students' d l n a t i o n ~ and select
\\ here they are to go. Under such
an arrangement. the Offic(' ofDevelopment ould receive themoney, issue receipts and send itdirectly to the specified areas.
Like the Q.E.t-.1.F., this type of
contribution to the WATFUND
would req uire t he organization of
students and faculty into an
advisory council.
ot only would a student co ntribution benefit the area it isdirected to but it would help the
rest of the WATFUND pro
gramme. Firstly, some corpor
ations provide grants which
match a certai n percentage of themoney collected into the W A T FUND. Therefore. any increase
in the WATFUND would also
increase the matching funds.
Secondl), siglllficant donationsby faculty, stafr and especially
students are used to demon
strate 10 potential contributorsthe importance \ e place on oureducation here. Although con
tributions to the WATFUND
cannot be used as directly as the
Q.E.M.F., it is possible that funds
be used to meet the specific
engineering education needs andto benefit the WATFUND as awhole.
Whether funding for engin
eering facilities through the
WATFUND is organized or not,
the WATFUND remains a tax
deductable outlet for the 50 or
more that many were preparedlast summer to pay.
Bob Costen
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The New Improved
Exci ling Media Series
Tuesday, January 18 th
Hagey HilI l373 378
7:30 p.m.
Clear Thinking , the first in
th e four part se r ies, will be aworkshop on how we can best
analyse and use the news media .
Sm a ll group discllssion willtllckle objectives for the -;eriesand create a new ga me pia n f01
effectively using information
and resources on reading bet
ween the lines.
Tuesday February 1st
Hagey Hall 37 3 378
7:30 p.m.
Objectivity and the Press
Richard Swift, radio journal ist and author, slices intn the
media. showing where bias and
propagilnda affect objectivity
of the press. Workshop to follow.
Social Impacts of
Computerisation
The Proceedings of the Forum
on the Social Impact of Com
puterisation, held January 14-16.1982. are now available in the
WPIRG Resource Centre.
If you would like to help plan ]
eLI
workshop on employment im
pacts of computerisation, please
contact Kae Elgie or Bill Allan at
the WPIRG office, room 217B CC,ext. 2578 .
WPIRG Presents
Brown Bag Seminars
This winter , through its Brown
Bag Seminars, the Waterloo
Public Interest Research Group
continues its lunch -hour look at
topical issues. All seminars will
be held in Room 135 of the
CampusCentre at the University
of Waterloo at 12:30 p.m . and are
free flnd open to the general
public.
Farmword has been identified
as the most dangerous oc cupat ion in the United States, par
ticularly due to pesticide ex posure. On Thursday January
20th Dr . Dick Frank, director of
the Pesticides Laboratory of the
Univers ity of Guelph, will dis
cuss the health effects of agri
cultura l chemicals - a topic ofinterest to home gardeners, too.
In response to the economic
malaise, the next seminar looks
at alternative personal and com
munity responses to hard times.
On Wednesday January 26, com
munity developmen t consul tant
Susan Wismer will look at ways
economically depressed com
munities ' have organ ized and
generated their own growth. inher talk on community-based
economic development
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Canadian Student PugwashScience and thical Responsibility
P KING XPR SS
GOOD FOOD
In 1955. Bertrand Russel and
Albert Einstein issued a mani
festo calling upon the scientists
of the world to meet in confer
ence to discuss the threat ofnuclear weapons. The first such
conference, sponsored by Cyrus
Eaton. took place ill .he small
town of Pugwash, Nova Scotia.
in 1957. Since then this informal
movement has grown world
wide, and its perspective has
broadened to inclui:le the sources
of international conflict and the
responsibilities of scientists insociety.
In June 1979, the first Student
Pugwash Conference on Science
and Ethical Responsibility was
held in San Diego. Many of the
participants at this excellent
conference were spurred to es
tablish student Pugwash organ
izations at both the national and
international levels. As part of
this effort , and with the support
of the senior Pug wash organiz
ation in Canada. Canadian Stu
dent Pugwash was founded in the
fall of 1979.In today's world, the scientist
often plays a pivotal role insocietal change, yet the moral responsibility implied by this role
is frequent ly overlooked. Workthat might pose ethical problems
for the scientist ranges from bio
medical research on human sub
jects to designing ballistic mis
sile guidance systems, fromdeveloping new pesticides todrafting intelligence tests. Among students, there is great
scope for a discussion of the
ethical issues that may arise insuch work.
Canadian Student Pugwash is
committed to the p r i n c i p ~ SO
of the Pugwash movement.
which ape the avoidance of war
and conflict, in particular nu
clear war, and the survival and
betterment of the human race.Canadian Student Pugwash is an
organization primarily of scien
tists that encourages. through avariety of activities, the respon
sible use of science in our societ y.These goals can be furthered
by:
- establishing a net work ofyoung social and natural scien
tists across Canada who are con
cerned about the ethical issues
relevant to their work;
- promoting an educational dis
cussion of these issues and an
interdisciplinary exchange of
information and ideas between
student and established scieJ'ltists through correspondenct:
workshops. and conferences; and
- encouraging scientists out
side the organization to discuss
the ethical implications of their
work.
Within the above framework,
Canadian Student Pug wash pro
motes a broad riiscussion per
mitting an exchange of diverse
opinions.
Participation in Canadian Stu
dent Pugwash is informal: there
are no membership lists or fees.Although most of those involved
are from the university community, recent students, stu
dents between degrees. and es
tablished scientists working out
side university are encouraged toparticipate. Because of the in
evitable lack of student contin
uity, the aclivesupport of univer
sity professors is essential. Stu
dents do most of the organ
izational work, but interested
professors help maintain the
momentum of Canadian Student
Pugwash from year to year.
Although the most conspic
uous issues of science and ethics
usually arise from the work of the
natural scientist. social scien
tists are active in CanadianStudent Pugwash. The work of
social scientists often signif
icantly affects society. and they
can give insights into the relationship between science and
society. People from other dis
ciplines, who have a solid know
ledge of a social or natural
science, often make valuable con
tributions to Canadian Student
Pugwash.
Canadian Student Pugwash is
established on a national basis.
Across the country. local univer
sity organizations are expanding
the network of interested people
while promotlng the discussion
of science and ethics issues. The
ational Office in Otta\\8 co
ordinates local and nationalact i Ii ties.
Canadian Student Pugwash
depends o n pri vate financial con
tributions to maintain these
activities. All such contributions
are tax deductible. Cheques
should be made out to the Youth
Science Foundation. Cdn. Std.
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Participation Points are awarded on apercentage basis by the following
equation: ,
xn
x 1 0 ~ = P**5 points
x - number in attendance
n - number in class
Participation points will be awarded fort 'he following:
a) s e I T ~ formal
b) l e a g l l f teams (engineering and intram.)c) tournaments (engineering and intram.)d) individual sports (eng. and intramural)e) Engineering ~ e e k e n d eventsf) charity events
Points will be awarded according to howteams place in e ither minor or major
e v ~ n t s
Major Events Minor Events
1st - 20 points 1st 10 points
2nd - 10 points 2nd 5 points3rd 5 points 3rd 3 points
Major Events: scavenger hunt, pub rally ,tournaments (broomball, volleyball ,basketball) , bus push, snow bowl. etc.
Minor Events: arm wrestling, pinball,
d) Committees- Eng Soc 4 points/member
- other 3 points/member
e) Band- 1 point per performance per person
f) Charity Oriented Events
awarded a t discretion of P**S organizer- point value to be announced prior to event
g) Athletics
h)
i)
j
- convenor 10 pOints
official (league) 6 points- official t o u r n ~ a ~ m ~ e : n ~ t ~ ) ~ ~ 3 ~ . ~ p ~ O ~ i ~ n ~ t ~ ~ s ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Special Events
- for outstanding contribu:ions by a class infurtlwring th<. Ilame, n:pl l t i l t ion (good or h,ld)
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section l
committee members 5 points c(lLh
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k Eng oc Exec.
- maXImum of ] 0 po ints a t di scretioJl of theEng Soc President
4. Notcs
chess, egg toss, etc. a) **N.B.** Fractions of points wil I be round cd upto the nearest point.
p**s points will be awarded for the follow- b)ing contributions:
Points are not awarded to l:ng S.)C Lxcc memb rswherc the particlpation is within the scope oftheir dutics.
a)
b)
c)
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ful l attendance 25 points per classper team
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- S points for each beer entered (labelincluded
c) A running total wi he rn:linta inui throughout
the term. Standings wi 11 he: posted :'l fterEngineering We<:kcnd and printed in all
publications. The winner w i ~ l b ~ n ~ o u n c e d atthe End of Term Pub.
.J) Class reps arc responsl ble for submi Tng l i s t s
of teams, commjttee members, etc. to the P**Sorganizer.
e) Deadlines will be announced form submissions
from class reps. Points will not be awardedfor following such dealines (however loss willresult for nnt following them).
First Deadlin e
Class l i s t s are due, Friday, January 14, 1983.
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6. Iron Warrior
Waterloo Engineers
Enter OED CompetitionThis year's Ontario Engin
eering Design Compet iti on isbehind held at Queen's Univer
sity in Kingston on the weekend
of March 4, 5, and 6. Although it isnow too late for any fu rther
entries (the entry deadline was
December 1st last year), Water-
Poor Wayne Levin. He's the president of U of T 100 is se nding a con tingent with
Engineering. But that's not why he's in a bad way. The at least one entry in each
highlight of the CCES '83 was not the Queen's ralli e draw category.
f h hThe category of Entrepren-
or a nig t wit one of Van couver 's finest [certainly not apolice woman ). His problem, you see, is that he won the eurial Design is for those designs
of products or processes notraffle - what would you do? He politely declined and currently of Canadian origin. i.e.offered th e mon ey for beer for everybody, not a bad second if a person has a creati ve notion.alternative really. this is the place to enter. Sven
The CCES '83 . held in Vancouver from January 5-9 annd Dickinson and Louis Gaiot, both
host ed by UBC. was much more than typical engineering of 48 Systems Design, and Robpranks . With the th eme of "The Engineer Adapting to aChanging World", th e focus of th e speakers and Harvey. also of 4B Systems
discussions were centredon Canada's eco nomic problems Design, with his conflict An-
and how toda y's engineers have to cope with the recent alysis program.lack of employment. The category of Corporate
Design is for entrants who are .Head given a set problem currently
Waterloo Eng Soc sent five delegates to Vancouver: without an adequate solution by
Chris Carter (38 SO), Judy Runn a ll s (38 ME), Pete Cliff an industrial planner. The UW(3BME),DenisVanDecker(3BCHl,andJuneDaSilva(2A t ~ entry is the teamo Nick de SI.
CH). With "A" Soc's fiv e delegates. Wat erloo was well .. Croix and Rob Peters of 4B Elec-represented. Most schools across Canada attended, with trical Engineering who havethe female proportion increase d substantially (quality, Discuss ion Group: Academic Dif fe rences chosentheproblemoftheswitch-
too). The organizers, UBC, found themselves in th e Between Uni v rsi t i e s over to a backup power supplypeculiar position of having to be a little responsible for not presen ted by Northern Telecom.only their actions but also everybody els e's. It s hould be The category of Editorial Com-remembered that UBC delegates a t CCES '82. ho s ted by I t was i n t e r e s t i n g to l ea rn about the many munications is to give entrants aWaterloo, sunbathed outside th e farme r's mar ket in a v a r i a t i o n s in e n g i neer ing d i s c i p l i n e s and chancetoexpness a nopinionona
snow storm . co urs es o f f e r e d a t t he u n i v e r s i t i e s ac ross technical issu e of significant
With our large contingent. Wat erloo was able to cover Canada. Wat e r loo i s the on] y s::hool wi th a social impact. The first team isall seminars and discussions. Good prank ideas. other tha t of Cliff Menezes and Marksocial events. and differe ntial organizational app roa ches co-op program beginning in f i r s t year , bu t Turchan, 'both of 48 Syst emswerediscussedatworkshops.Thespeakersarediscussed Sh e rbrooke , Ottaw a , Unive r s i ty o f Albe r ta an d Design, and the second entry isin anotherseclion. othe r s have e i t h e r four o r f i v e work t e rms . that of Chris Franklin, of lB
Head The Univers i ty o f Br i t i s h Columbia has a f i v e Mechanical Engineering with hisUBC did a damn fine job of organization. The delegates year co u r se c o n s i s t i n g o f one year o f gene ra l entryofTax Incentives. R&D and
were never bored and theevents hod enou gh ex Ira time to Progress for Canadian Trans-allow for run-on which alw ays occurs. The soc ial eve nt s sc i ence , one year o f g en era l enginee r ing an d portation.
included a pub rally by foot. a dan ce at UBC. and a Lady th ree years of mo r e spec ia l i zed courses . We The last category is that ofGodiva parade around downtown - this ev ent made B.C. a re probably t he only u n iv e r s i t y t h a t ha s no Expana tory Communications,
television, but not national. compu 1sory Engl i s h prof ic iency t e s t s o r which is to research and present aThe plenary s8saioo was eBpecially boring llo be . . £ technical top ic of current social
wri t ing co r s e s or enginee r s . Some u n i v r s i t i ~expected). T'm bored writing thi s. So 'II s top. i ~ l 8 8 1 . The UW en.try hers is
wri t e work r e p o r t s in a d d i t i o n to t h i s . As fo r Arnim Lillek of 4B Electrical
Speakers t he diSCipl ines avai l ab le , the re a re many which EngineeringwiththethemeFibreI wouldn't want to bore you with tou much information e t f f h 11 1 Optl·CS·. What's ln I t for Us?
b h k b h h h k w 0 no 0 e r suc as meta u r g l c a , mat e r i a l s ,a oul eae s pea cr. ut s in ce I sa t t mllg t P. spea crs Each of the 4 categories has an If 1 f 1 U s h II j th h r i n d u s t r water r es ource and b io lo g i c a lly s e , ee yo ou t ( I sa me d .. $500 prize for first place. a $400
Dr . I..M . Wedepohl ,l hd)('anofAppliedScipnceatllBC , g i n e e r j ~ g The Univers i ty o f Regina i s prizeforsecondplaceanda$300
e n ~ d th e r.onf(lfp ncf with the IIsual "Wclwm ' to g en era 1 i.zed for t lv O yea r s , then o f f e r s a choice prize for 3rd place .Vancouver" remarks. Tlwrt, was nothing particularly Although the entry deadline
remarkable. however, in what hr sai d. between reg i ona I , i n d u s t r i a l , and el ec t ron lC for the 1984 competit ion is still aTheD puty.MinisterofUnivPl' s itirs ,Sde nce,a ndCom - d d h th 1 longwayoff , itmaybethelimeto
f h. f h (' I I ' D sys tems cSlgn , an t esc a re e on y ones
munica t ion or t c provlnc(' () Brltls ,() urn )la, r. start thinking about an entry forRobert W. Stewurt, discussed th . I'rnploYIl1 nt of they ha v e . ~ o s t 0 f t he discuss ion groups lhe next round of competition.engineers across Canada . The flu ctuat ion s in th e demand se emed to b e succes s fu 1 e i ther in terms o f Work term projects or project
for engineers is esse ntially cyclicnl. 111 believ es. Dr. i n format ion , o r ex c hange o f methods and idea s . co urses may be used, providing
Stewart pre se nted graphs which su pported this view for Ther e were some good arguements dur ing t h i s permission ha s been obtainedCanada. The problems of unemployment and unrlcr- d k from the requisite individual(s).
I f . h f I d ' onc, and t he smal l e r groups encourage spea lngemp oyment or englneers, e ee s. WI soo n Isa ppellr. And th ere is no reason whatso-Blair Wilson, a prufess orat U£lCand not anf ngineer, o u t . I t i s a good i dea for a confe rence . everthattheentrylistneedbeas
took exception to Dr.Stewart's view . Mr . Wilson feels that dominated by the 4th year
the cyclical activity con be halted. As 80 ' . of the June DaSilva students as our current entry .engineering gratluates in the next five years will be in Good ideas don't start in fourthsupervisory positions. Mr . Wilson contends that if year . . .
engineersreceivedhumanrelationstrainingasanintegral ~ _ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~part of the undergraduate program, the cycle would bestopped. He feels that engineers have the poten ialto usetheir superior technical skills in humAn relations.
A rambling dissertation by Ron Jeffles was presented.
tit led, "God, Man. Woman, Centaurs, Devils .Shearlines inMetal. Cyborgs. Sundry Machines and the Ars Poetica ofAristotle (A Brief and Furious Canter through ModernThoughl)". Enough said - it helped our lack of sleep.
Tom Sidden is a professional engineer and a Member ofParliament (Conservatives). He believes thaI Canada's
prul)lems are due to some political decisions such asAlsands, the National Energy Program. and the Nuvember
Federal Budget. He discussed further the Cunservative's
approach to Canada's ills. During questions afterward.
there uccurred a spirited and healed discussiun between
Sidden and Angelo Grassa of Waterloo A whi ch provided
needed relief for all the delegates .The technical session of the conference presented th e
construction of the B. C. Place Stadium. For$125 milliondollars and two years in construction, V a n c o ~ l v e r is thefirst Canadian city to have a covered football and baseball
stadium. The roof is of interest because of its "inflated"
design. Through a sel'ies of slides, the r o g r e ~ s of the roofconstruction was presented - hopef ul ly, the post
publication will include some of these slides. The panel
discussion title was "The Role of the Engineer vis-a-vis
The Engineering Technologist". certainly a timely topic.As can be expected. a minor war ensued between thetechnologist representatives and the delegates. but it was
generally agreed that more communication is needed toestablish the technologist's position in engineering work.
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Blair Wilson Speaks OfHuman Relations
T raining as Economicure at ES
Canadian Engineers have con
linually had a detrimental effect
on the economy of Canada. an
adolescent giant in chains. The
key problem is that Canada's
most prolific management pro
fession continues to assume that
to be a human is to understand
one. Blair Wilson, a past em
ployee relations consultant for
M.C.A. of B.c., speaking at the
Fifteenth Congress of Canadian
Engineering students continued
by saying tha t to be human is at
best to understand oneself. To
understand humans and to be
able to deal with them, man
agers (read engineers) must take
effective learning training in the
Human Relations Field .
An unmotivated subordinate
or peer faced with an unelighten
ed engineer may quite easily
think, Why should I listen to
your perfectly logical argue
ments, even i you are a P.Eng,
when I can not stand you? Mr.
Wilson believes that inthe next3-
5 years the main obstacle to econ
omic health will not be foreign
competition or lack of funds but
rather this inability to get people
to do things (motivation)_
The brunt of this motivation
problem falls square ly on the
shoulders of engineering trained
individuals who constitute 41%
of the executive business leaders
in Canada. Instead of aggres
sively attacking the root of the
problem, Canadian managersl
engineers have accepted the
symptoms of the problems (tardiness, absenteeism, pilfering,
sabotage, et cetera) as business
risks. The result of these biness risks is totally unaccept-
able levels of waste 1 5 t040%-
in the cost of production. ThefuaIt of this waste ultimately lies
with the management , not the
employees. As Mr. Wilson sees it ,
one third to one half of today's
managers (and most engineers)
are management misfits prim
arilyclue to the practice of 1950's
management techniques. Ultim
ately, the motivation problems
that plague most workers in
every industry (only 1I3rd of a
plant maintenance worker's time
is productive) affect the econ
omic health of the country .
Al though the present recession
is a dramatic indicator of the
state of industry and manage
m ~ n t (most bankruptcies occur
in companies with 100% engin
eering managemenI , Canada has
a lw a ys been and always will be
the country of the future . We
could resign ou rsel ves to the fact
that we are helpless innocents
inheriting this mess or we can
take steps to make Canada the
coun try of the present and future.
History is filled with examples of
simple innovations, difficult to
initially accept, producing dram
atic results. The feeding of limes
to British seamen made the
limeys the finest fleet in the
world. Surgeons washing hands
bet ween operations dramatic
ally increased survival rates of
surgery' patients.
Similarly, the introduction of
effective Human RelationsTraining in every engineer's ed
ucation will allow Canada to per
manently shake its image of an
industrial d ~ n o s a u r bo r e e 0
the way t the dinosaur.
NewCCESPeriodical
ProposedInitially, disc ussion centered on the thrust in ontent
that would be required to produce a national e n g i n ~ e r i n gperiodical which would be both interesting to I he a \'erage
student and respectable enough to be A formal
mouthpiece.
The group IVas informed of the work done by SRm
Fujimoto of Queen's who envisioned a glossy Co ered
national magazine which he had priced et $12000 for
30000 copies. Because of the lack of con census in t he group
on the initial topic, people were apprehensive about
making a quantum leap from the CCES newsletter to a full
blown publication . As a result of these misgi ings , acompromise solution wa s . found . The concept is as
follows:
Queen's will produce an expanded CCES newsletter
named (XXXXXXXXXX) to be produced in a newsprintmagazine format. The initial run of 15000 copies will be
produced inthe fall of 1983 . Submissions will be due in
September, each school will be responsible for sub mitting
roughly 1000 words of copy. The submission should
consist of two segments; one which describes the serious
side of the society's operation, and, one which would
enlighten people as to the less formal and arguabI y more
interesting things that they have been up to (anythinghumourous would do].
Mr. Rivington obligated Queen 's t'o circulate a hypo
thetical cost sheet to at least two schools whoseeeE :; organlzll1g commitees might be tinancially
responsible for it; UBC and Western.
This publication is seen as a transitional phase. It wil l
be used to guage the level of interest in the different
subjects of discussion. This will be accomplished by
incorporating a questionnaire in tbe magazine. These
results will be used to determine what area of emphasis
would produce the most informative and most read
publication. The participants also felt that it was
important that schools have formal CCES newsletter
liaison people so that the responsibjlit y does not get
delegated in to the infinitesimal spark of the eternal,
seething cauldron of oblivion.From Waterloo A So cie ty Anit a Van DenHurk w as th e
app ointed liai 0 as werEl D is al eck r nd hris
Carter for the Waterloo "8" Society.
Dave i v i n ~ t o n
InnovativeVehiclesDesignCompetition
Two students from UBC arecurrently organizing this com
pet it ion as part of the 1986 World
E position (Exp086)tobeheldin
Vancouver B.C. from May 2 to
October' 13, 1986. The intent of
this competition is to foster
student innovation and to pro
vide a practical application of
theory for engineering students.
This competition is intended to
field a showcase of new ideas to
the public .
To encourae new and original
work in automotive des.ign, the
scoring methods will stress in
novation where innovation will
be defined as either a totally new
idea or en origina l appl ication of
an old idea . Ultimately, the goal
of the competition is to inspirethe contestants to review the
pUl'pose and function of the au to -
mobile rather than to make
marginal changes to a desig.n,
which, in its essential elements
has not changed in sixty years.
Preliminary plans for this
competi ti on have already been
sent to 55 universities in Canada
and the US. Since this isa World's
Fair en tr ies may be world wide
and will be limited to a max
imum of 100. The University of
Waterloo should make an effort
to produce an entry for this com
petition since it will be a widely
publicized event. Anyone can
work on the design and con
struction, but since the com
petition is in 1986, students from
first and se cond years are especia lly need ed. W a lch [or d e
tails in th next few months .
Judy Runnalls
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First of all, what is RESSA?
RESSA stands for "Regional
Engineering Student Societies
Association" with theconference
being a get-together for all of the
Engineering Societies in Ontario
and Quebec .The most re cent con
ference was held in October 1982and was hosted by the Univer
sity of Olta wa. The topic for th isco nferenc e was "Co mputers and
the Engineer".Priday marked the arrival of
the delegates from Western.
Windsor, Waterloo , McMaster, Uof T, Queen's, Carlton, McG ill ,Laval , Conr.ordia l nci Sher brooke. The Watl r loo delega tion
was made up of P( te Cliffe. Chr isCarter, Rob Cooper. Neil Payne
and Greg Franks . The evening
began with a wine and cheese
party which a llowed th e variousdelegates to get to know each
other .After most of I he d e lega tes had
arrived, we HII went to a "Prc
Panda party" at U of O. The firstparty we arrived a t was not tooexciting. The band was te rrib le:the music was measured in
Richter 's, not dB. So almosteverybody went on to a seco nd
party near by.
The conference organizers had
lined up three speakers. Each
speaker was to speak on the roleof the microcomputer for th eengineer. In this case we are
refering to the use of the com
puter; not the programmingthereof.
The first speake r's topic was
"Computers and the Engineer". It
was one user's account on how
the computer had simplified
routine work. He specifically
dealt with "Pile analysis" (Civilengineering stuff). Initially. this
work was done with a slide rule
and took. on average, seven days
to complete. Then came the BIGcomputers, like the machines inthe Red Room. The job was
shortened to three days. Forms
had to be filled in, then some poorclerk had to enter the data intothecomputer (usually with cards),and the listings returned. Invar
iably there would be errors, so
the entire process had to be
repeated. Clearly, this was not
too efficient.
Enter the 1980'S, and with it.
the microcomputer. Now pile
analysis takes 30 minutes.
Rather than filling out cod ingforms, the engineer enters all of
the data himself. and stores it on afloppy disk for future reference.The user does nol need to know
how to program the machine at
all
The second spea ker, Marc
Morin , dealt with the topic of " the
role of the computer in data
acquisi tion and engine analysis" .
This was something our Mech anical Engineer lPete Cliffe) waslooking forward too . Unfortunat ely, our delegation did not get
much out of this topic. [n keeping
with th e b i l i n ~ u a l nature nf thecon fe rence, Mr . Mor in spokl' inFrench. The Quebec delegations
were quite pleased . so that's the
main thin g.
Th e third speakcl' talk ed about
th e role of microcomputers Hndthe Rid eau Ccnt re proj c t inOttawa. Fl ashback: Ottawfl is agovernment town , so the projec thas n plus 1 parties involved: the
Feds. th e Provin cialgovel'Oment.Co unty government. and city
government all want to be (and
nre) involved . [n addition. the
Rideau Centre has a co nvention
centre, department store. park ing garage, hotel , and shopping
mall. They are all part of one
building and are owned by
different parties. But, this istypical for Ottawa Clearly, the
only thing that could possibly
straighten out this nightmare
was a computer. [n this case itwas one TRS-80 .
This completed th e o ~ f e r e n c epart of the conference - it was
time to move onto other t in s-and in our case, the Panda
Game.
The Panda Game is a Football
Game between the University of
Ottawa and Carleton. The name
"Panda" was adopted when theUniversity of Ottawa decided the
game needed some publicity.
They brought a large stuffed
Panda Bear and stated that itwould be given tothe victorofthe
game. It was stored in a visible
location in downtown Ottawa.
However, the Ottawa people
proceeded to steal "Pedro" (the
stuffed bear).and blame Ottawa.
Well, to make a long story short,
the publicity stunt worked and
later resulted in a rich tradition
for Pedro (who is now stored at
C.S.C.E.What is it? CSCE stands for the
Canadian Scoeity for Civil Engineering. So what? For three
years now a local CSCE student
section was formed for the
benefit of civil engineering students and any others that may beconcerned with what's happen
ing in the Civil Engineering
world. (I'll bet you didn't know
that a computer program named
ELAPLAS was available to sim
ulate th e load-defo rmation behaviour in a welded truss-joint
s ubj ected to a prescribed trans
verse s hear load - sou nd mind
boggling?)
One a more serious note CSCE
offers to you, the student, an opportunity to meet with oth ers in
Civil Engineering with similarInt erests and to keep up with
d e ~ e l o p m e n t s in Civil Engin
ee fln g. It provides a fMum for theexchange of ideas and infor
matIOn between students, facand profesSional engi neers
In Industry. It also pr ovi des forsoclal con tacts between students
of dIfferent Course optio ns , academ IC years and st reams, a nd
(except Carlton) were on th e U ofo side of th e field . Otti:1wa took
the lead ea rl y in th e first quarter
with a field goa l, a nd never
looke d back. Final score: 19 to 7
for U of O.The next item on the age nd a
w as to get toget her all of th eEngineering Societies fora work
shop dealin g with "Eng Soc and
relations with the student body".
The room was filled with peoplebarely alive. The most notabletopic of the meeting was BoaRacing. T his activity is perfec tl ylegal in Quebec (as far as we
know), so mayhe this ~ r e a t sport
can be resurrected .The conference wrapped up
with a luncheon a t th e University
of Ottawa. Everybody had agood
time. Many thanks to th e o rgan
izers for doing a fine job.G. Franks
between students and faculty
members in order to imrpove
communications and under
standing between the various
groups.
How do they do this? Each term
a schedule of events is arranged
consist ing of general interest
talks and seminars. They are
usually Thursdays from 11:30 to
12:30. Students are invited tobring a lunch and if you're early,
you may get a don u and/or coffee
provided free by CSCE. These
ta lks are well advertised in ad
vance so keep an eye out for the
flyers telling you when and
where. This terms activities
include talks on:- Northern /Arc tic Construc
tion - Ralph Haas '- Computer-Aided-Design
Computervision - Greg Prentice
- Reinforced Asphalt - A. D.
Abde l Halim
- CSCE National Lecture
To ur - Water Resources - Rolf
Kelie rha Is .CSCE a lso subsc ri bes to var
ious magazines for Ci viI Engineers. These include:
- E. l. C. Engineering Journal
- NRC Canadian Journal of
Civil Engineering
ASCE Civil Engineering
Getting interested? What can
you do? The easiest way topartiCipate is as an audience. So
grab your lunch and come out to a
talk. These talks are about 45
minutes in length and allow you
lots of time to move to your next
class. If this catches your inter
est. then you could go one stepfurther and join the local studentchapter. The fee is $20 for one
year which includes a sub
scription to the Engineering
Journal a nd to the Canadian
Journal of Civ il Engineeri ng(more about this next week). Fin ally. if you're really interestedyou can help the executive plan
and execute these even ts. The
local student section is relatively new and is still suscep
tible to early childhood dis
eases. New talen t a nd energy isalways welcome (and needed). fyou would lik e to help , contact
Grieg. Garland, 4B Civil, this
term's chairman . You can also
leave your name wi th Marilyn
Clarke in the Department of CivilEngineering office. So when yo usee the fl yer advertising the first
event, take a few minutes a nd bean audience.
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Cont. From Page 1able through RRSPcontributions "It's the first-year students
is limited to 20%of earned income we're having problems with.
or $5,500.00, \ hichever is less. If They've had four months at uni
you are a member of a pension versity, mostly from Grade 13,plan other than CPP with your and they dOll" have the academic
1982 employer the overall max- background or the skills yet to
imum contribution is reduced to handle some of the jobs avail
$3,500.00. able to intermediate and senior
Specifically income deferral is students."
accomplished by contributing to First-year engineering stuan RRSP in the first sixty days of dents trAditionally get such jobs
1983 and designating this cont ri - as elect ricians' assistants or
bution as deductable against mechanics' helpers, Wilson says,
1982 income. The funds can then but those jobs have dried up.
be immediately withdrawn and "The employment in the manu
taken against 1982 income. The facturing industri es in Ontario iseffect of this deferral iS,ofcourse, very restricted at the present
to decrease taxable income in the lime. That's where our greatest
1982 taxation year and increase area of concern is."taxable income in the 1983 "The steel industry used 10
taxation year. This deferral of' employ a large number of stuincome combined with a Co-op dents (as well as) Ihe pulp and
student's variable income from paper industry and the mining
year to year, has the effect of industry in particular. But it's
"smoothing" income. Due to the slim pickings these days for
variable tax rate structure in people in those industries."
Canada this results in reduced There are also fewer studenttaxes or, possibly, the elimin- jobs in the oil and petrochemical
ation of taxes. As an example a industries, he says.
taxpayer with an income in 1982 Wilson /lays many studentsof $12,000.00, resident in Ontario had interviews lined up after
and single could expect to reduce their Christmas exams, and he
1982 taxes by approximately expects to hear many have found
$652.00 by making a con tribulion jobs over Christmas.
of $2,400.00 to an RRSP. This Still, he has called extra people
$2,400.00 would of course be in during the last two weeks to
taxable in 1983. If however 1983 keep calling employers who
is a year in which the student might hire students.
attends classes for 8 of the 12 Studenls also were sent homemonths the marginal tax rate with kits explaining how to hunt
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On the Rocks???We've all seen 'em. Every term,
the class rep comes around and
hands out question sheets, com
puter cards, and for the am
bitious, comment sheets, But do
we ever really see anything for
our efforts?
If you ever want to improve
your lo t in life, you are going tohave to make at least some effort.
We are locked into a rigid
program for 6 semesters, which
doesn't allow us much choice inselecting our professors anyway,
so what's the point?
By the time you get to fourth
year though, you've seen a lot of
professors. And that is when you
have at least a little say in who
will be teaching you. But how
many of you are even a ware of Ihe
fact that Eng Soc has past results
of course critiques available for
your perusal?
That's not really what they are
there for though. Professors are
highly qualified professionals
who lead verv independent Collr
eers. One of the attractions of the
job is the freedom that comes
wltn being an academic. There is
less responsibility to a higher up
than in an industiral position.
Professors are nol used to having
someone looking over their
shoulders.
Because of that, they ha ve very
little feedback on their teaching
abilities. Unless · you make an
individual effort to tell a pro
fessor where he might improve
there is virlually nothing, he
sides course critiques, which
could set him straight.We scoff at Ihem, but course
critiques are taken seriously.
They are used in departmental
evaluations of professors, don't
kid yourself. If this wasn't the
case, why did Professor Koewen
of Ci vii Engineering write "due to
previous inconsistencies and the
ad hoc manner in which the
course critiques are adminis
tered, the Department of Civil
Engineering is withdrawing its
support for the program." Sim
ilar sympathies have been ex
pressed by the Department of
Chemical Engineering. If indeed
the course critiques were simply
ignored, such statements would
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Why all the discontent now?
Apparently the people who wOlnt
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satisfied with the consistency
and applicability of the ques
tions used. In order to have any
validity, the questions firstly
have to be relevant and secondly
have to stay on the question form
for a number of terms, to give the
statistics some validity. It is pOllr
practice to try 10 generali:le on asingle set of data. That is another
reason why we, as students, will
not see instant feedback the
following semester.
Discontent also stems from the
inconsistency with which com
puter cards are filled out. Why
should a professor take some
thing seriously when 67 out of
118 students reply. or worse, 54
out of 112, as happened to some
samples from last summer'scritiques?
If this discontent spreads to
other departments, the entire
process of course critiques may
have to beshelved. Theonlycon
sisten method of e t t i n ~ profes
sors know how and what they are
doing n the classroom is
threatened . . .
That leaves it up 10 us. And not
just the select few who do things
voluntarily anyw ay. What does
it cost each one of us to sit down
and realistically evaluate ourprofessors? Ten minutes of our
time, perhaps? The professors
even make time in lect ures, so t is
not really as if we are giving up
something. Think about iI. And
when the time comes, fill out
those computer cards con
scientiously.
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Typical costs of the trans- Co-op students who don'tfl(;tiOIl should 110t ( Plld $7 i.no. renlly hllVl' th .. IIptilll of dlUIlH
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Letters from lDyDadDea r S co t t,
So vo u want to learn ahollt
Mar keting, eh? Well. let's beginwith some basic defi nitions.
Marketing is the se t of h umanac tivi ties directed a t facil itati ng and co nsu mmat ing exchanges .
Marketing Management isth e a nalysis , planning , imple mentation, and control of program s des igned to bring a boutdesired exchanges with target
audiences for the purpose of
personal or mutual gain.
Both of these defjnitions are
taken from Philip Kotlers 1)book "Marketing Management
analysis, planning and control" .The emphasis on the profitmoti ve is mine because I believethat profit is so fundamental tothe success of the enterprise that
marketers must be cognizant ofthe impact that their activity ishaving on profit. I emphasize this
because I believe that still today
all too many "Marketers" are
volume or revenue oriented and
not margin or profit oriented.
price, promotion, and place tosuit his own system. McCarthy
seems to fee l tha t his sequence
has some logical adva ntages an dI agree for reaso ns we'll soo n see.
All th ese defini tio ns boil
down to the fac t th at Market
ing is the satisfaction of cus
tomer needs in a manner that
insures the continued profit
ability of the enterprise.
Which brings us all th e way
around to needs The classical categorization
of needs can be found in Abra ham Maslow's 3) book "Mot ivation and Personality" . In itMaslow arranges human needs
into a five level heirarchy .Maslow proposes that thelower needs must first be sat·
sHied before the higher needs
emerge. One must eat, even atthe risk of life but once one isfull and hunger no longer dom inates, then one begins to work
towards eliminating danger.
And when one is no longer endangered, then the need for loveand affection and belonging
emerges. After this need 0 nreferred to as the social eed)comes the need for estee and
finally the need for self-ac ual-
Weiser,
Coordination a s p ~ y home
11. lion Warrior
XPR SSorner of University
and Phillip
884 9220
Stream Change Stopped
Like the QEMF, the stream
change issue came to an abrupt
halt during the off term . Apparently enough resistance was
encountered by the folks in coordination and placement that
the plan to convert both streams
to concurrent 8 month streams in4th year ran aground.
The resistance came not only
fromstudents
,but some of the de
partments within the faculty de
cided it wasnotthebest way togo
and Dr. Peter Roe, Associate
Dean, recommended indefinite
shelving of the plan to the Under
graduate Affairs Committee.
Kotler's Marketing Manage
ment definition goes on - It
relies heavily on the adaptation
and co-ordination of product ,place, promotion, and price for
achieving effective response".
These are the 4-P's of Marketing
and I've taken the liberty to put
them in McCarthy's 2) original
order. Kotler has them product,
iza Ii on . Read Ch a p ter 5 i l . : : : . ~ ~ I = i i i i i i ; ; ; ~ ~ ~ ~ ; ; ; ; ; 2 : = = = = = = - : - -Maslow's book for a full d e ." - lf ~ ; i ; ~ ~ : { ~ ~ ; ~ i l : F : ~ omputer Gap e·tliVeen I n d u s t r ~Marketing.
A Hierarchy of Needs and Waterloo
ClosingMaslow Self Customer
by G. R. Sullivan andPr ucthysiological
Safety
Belongingness
Esteem
Food
Shelter. -_
Love, Affection
Achievement, Recognition
Promotion The traditional gap in process
Price control between industry and
academia is partly due to the useof large control systems inindustry and smaller. low cost
systems in the academic environ
men\. The University of Water
loo has recently acquired the use
of the Advanced Control System
(ACS) from IBM. This large scale
process computer control soft-
Self Actualization ( Is it here where the circle
squares itself in th e Taoist style?
"When once you are free from allseeming, from all cra ving and
lusting, then will you move of
your own impulse. without so
much as knowing that you
move." - Lao Tse 4)
It seems to me that the primary
need of a customer is for a
product. To begin with, anythingthat works, even a bit, is better
than nothing. For instance, in an
hydraulic application water willwork after a fashion, - never
below zero degrees C and if the
pressure is low not much above
100 degrees.c. The system willrust and wear quickly. but it will
work - sometimes. After water
the customer looks for a sustain
ing product, a satisfactory mineral oil with some wear and rust
inhibiting a d d i t i v ~ s . Now he can
stop worrying about "physio
logical needs", his "hunger" for a
product is satisfied and he canmove on to "safety" needs.
Can he get this product on a
regular basis in the q u ~ n t i t i e sthat he requires? He doesn t want
to have to shut down his oper
ation now that it's working well.So ~ ' s a f e t y needs are next, and
the marketer's ability to satisfy
this customer need bycontinuing
to position his products in atimel y manner is essential beforethe higher needs acti vate.
But - just like in "Real Life"these lower level needs are
normally satisfied and it is theneeds of belongingness and esteem that are important. To a wellfed, unendangered being practic
ally everything looks less important than belonging or esteem
(even sometimes the physio-
logical and safety needs, which
being satisfied are now under
estimated) .The customer can get a good
product on a regular basis fromseveral sources. What does hecare about the product you're
selling or about your unique
abilities to deliver regularly?
He's now worried about the
prestige associated with using
the best product available and
having obtained it for the best
price. Price often seems to be the
most important need only because all other needs are sat
isfied and out of mind. But let the
market suffer for supply and the
product become scarce then pricequickly becomes unimportant.
Remember - satisfying cus
tomer needs profitably is themarketers function: Product,
Place, Promotion and Price are
the tools that the marketer works
with.
And finally, remember that
Profit is Dot a four letter word.
More about that next time.Love, Dad.
Footnotes:1) Philip Kotler. "Marketing Manage·
ment : anatysis. planmng and cllntrol,"second edition (Prentice.Hall Inc .1972)
(2) E1eromeMcCarthy. "Basic Markeling :A Manageriat Approach." sixth edition(Richard D. Irwin, Inc . 1975)
(3) A. H. Maslow. "Motivation and Pcrsonality:' second edition (Harper and
Row 1970)(4) Laotzu 's Tao and Wu We Goddard
translahon (Brentano·s. 1919)
ware pac)<age representing' the
latest technology will be highly
beneficial tothe university
forboth teaching and research pur
poses.Many previous research
papers have reported a large
"gap" between academia and
industry relative to the meth
odologies and implementation of
computer process control strat
egies. This gap is also very
evident in the type of hardware
used in the imp lementation of
computer control. Traditionally,
for a variety of reasons, chem
ical engineering departments de-
cided in the sixties and seventies
to purchase minicomputer hard
ware in combination with some"home grown" software for control applications. Although this
approach had the advantage oflower capital cost, the resulting
environment has been less than
ideal for both teaching and research. The industrial prac
titioners, on the other hand, have
tended toward larger scale pro
cess control systems available
from a number of vendors that
are equipped with standard,
proven, and reliable process
r;ontrol software packages. Inlight of recent trends in decreasing computing hardware
costs and increased development
manpower costs, it may beworthwhile for academia toconsider the industrial approach.
State of Art Equipment
at WaterlooThe University of Waterloo
has recently acquired IBM's Advanced Control System (ACS)which represents the state-of
the-art in medium to large scale
industrial process control sys
tems. In the short time since installation, we have discovered
everal advantages for this type
of system that are specific to theacademic environment. These
advantages are directly related
to the size of the system - thevery reason many academic institutions have steered away
from large scale packages. Fromour viewpoint. there is no doubt
that ACS will ha v.e a significant
impact on teaching and research
of process control in chemical
engineering.
Universities may
Pool ResourcesOne of the strongest potential
benefits of adapting a large scale
industrial system goes beyond
those obtained by a single
university. In the past it has beenvirtually impossible to transfer
software relating to process
control between any univer
sities. This is mainly attribut
able to the fact that most of theuniversities have generated-their
own "base system" for process
control. With standard systems
such as ACS, the portability of
developed tutorials, classroom
simulations, advanced control
strategies from one university
location to another becomessimple. In this manner we can seea synergism in having several
uni versities acq uire the same
large scale process control sys
tem. A common effort will
greatly reduce overall develop
ment time for both course work
and laborator instruction.
We are now in the process ofdeveloping the Advanced Con
trol System beyond the confines
of the single university. In cooperation with IBM, we are
working on developing an ACS
Educational Users Group where
by other universities, w·ithout
communicate wit our CS soFtware system over high speed
telecommunication lines. These
universities can then use the ACS
system in simulation mode and
obtain all of the benefits des
cribed in the educational section .In addition we are actively en
hancing the simulation capab
ilities of the ACS system. We are
now developing an interface bet
ween ACS and a dynamic simul
ation package SPEEDUP which
has been developed at Imperial
College in London, England. The
SPEEDUP system isa very structured dynamic simulation pack
age with a wide range of process
unit modules and interfaces tophysical property packages. Inthis manner, it can easily produce
dynamic simulators of complex
process units , S a basis forcontrol studies.
There are many advantages foran academic instutition to in
vestigate the use of a large scale
computer control systems such
as those used in industry. These
advantages apply both in the educational and research aspect of
the academic institution. Finally,
there is one other advantage
which is of importance. At
Waterloo, we do extensive work
with industry on development ofcontrol for specific processappli
cations. ACS can be used as a toolin that development, thereb;'"
providing an easy transfer of
technology from academia toindustry. In fact the use of a full
scale 'computer control system todevelop any advance control
strategies will give that strategy
even more credibility in the
industrial domain. This in ad
dition to all of the advantages
illustrated above, will help pro
vide a more even distribution of
the process control technology
base between industry and academia.
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ub ews
I Student BranchThere will be an IEEE meeting
on January 18 at 11:30 in CPH
2387. Dr. S. G. Chamberlain, EEGradua te Officer, will speak on
the merits of continuing your
education past the undergrad-
ua te level. Free coffee and dough-
nuts will be served.
The IEEE computer f.acility is
open fmr use by members of the
IEEE. This facility consists of a
superbrain micro computer,. a
printer and various programs forthe superbrain. Anyone inter-
ested should contact Ed Spike
(ext. 3716).The second meeting for the
term will be held on February ilt
11:30. t will feature Prof. R. E.
Seviora speaking about the
broad ra nge of microprocessors
t ha t are a vaila ble on t he market.
What is Ferrune Eng?
Femme Eng is brought to you by your Engineering
Society . Wh o cares? If you are a fe maleengineering studen t , Y U should Femme Eng isbasical ly an organizat ional voice for \Vomen in
Engineering at Waterloo , Each term, i t
sponsors the femme Eng Wine and Cheese",\ h'ich gives the \Vomen involved in Engineering
on campus a chance to meet with each other andrliscuss various as pec t s of engineering, andl i fe i n a male domi.nated (?) environment.
There is also a speaker present, \Vho talksabout current topics related to engineeringand women. Femme Eng a l so organi zes wome n' steams fo r various act ivi t ies on campus,i nc lud ing sports . Are any of yo u i ntereste di n an ice hockey to ur name n t?
On th e mor e serious side , th is term Femme Engi s involved in preparing a brochur e ( \ i th th eaid of the Dean ' s office) to be circulated tohi ghsc hoo l s, in order t o encourage prospectivefemales to consider a career in engineering.Al so, we arc sending a representative to theSecond Convention of Women Engineers of Canada
this spring .
The bottom l i n ~ i s : \Ve cannot do i t withoutYOU Come out and get involved in Femme Eng .W thout your support , i t means no t hing .
Eng Soc Athletics
Welcome back to UW . Best
wishe s for a good acade mic term
This column is just to let youknow what is happening in EngSoc reg \ rding athletics . The
author is no w , under the ca refulsupervision of Kerry Hedd en,aspiring to be the new Athletic
Director.
The events for January include:
a ski trip to Blue Mountain on the
21st and a broomball tournament
on the 22nd. We are trying to
arrange bus transportation for
the ski trip, however that mode of
transportation appears to bevery expensive . A car pool to
transport everyone is one alter-
native but we would need a great
deal of support from everyone
rhose dr iving would obviously
be given money for gas
These two special events have
yet to be finalized. but things look
promising. Along with these
t: vents are regular leagues being
run by Eng Soc . These being afloor hockey (ring) and an ice
Your Femme EngDirector
hock ey lea gue. Hopefull y, th erewill be a t leas t one engin eeringfac ult y tea m a nd possi bl y two if
th e turnou t is suffi cient. .We are al so in volve d in pr e
pa r at i ons for a not her s ki tr ip inEng ineerin g Wee kend I to C hik
ope e and th e Sn ow Bowl(weather permitting ). A cha l·
lenge goes out to a ll classe s fr o mthe 2A Chem En g class , wh oplaced second in th ebut are looking to win on Januar y
30th .February appears to be fairl y
quiet except for our volleyballtournament on the 27th . It 'll bemidterm time , but we are hopin gthat won't stop too many pe ople
from participating and making
the tournament successful. Fu rthermore, if p'lans for the broom ball tournament aren't finali zedin time for the 22nd ofJanuary the
tentative date will be February12th. .
That is about all for now. Hope
to see everyone out supporting us
this term Thanks.Michael Hagley
Assistant Athletic Director2AChemEng
Is It Worth
Debatingby Dave MacCuigan
Many of today's educational
au thori ties regard a good debater
with more respect than the top
men in any subject or disciplineof subjects . This high regard forthe debater is well deserved.
owhere else upon the univer-
sity campus is the intellectual
activity as pure nor the import-
ant skill of analysis more util-
ized. Clear. logical thinking and
expressive speech are developed
by the debater. The debater must
be "on his tOf'S , react to a sit-
uation as it develops and use
persuasive speech to "sell" his
-pOSition. The debaters of today
are ready to become the leaders oftomorrow.
f you are an experienced
speaker you will enjoy the chance
to exercise your sk ill s a nd todeve lop them fu r th er. If you are a
beginner you will be nefit asmuch or even more, for th e levelof de bat ing is not too high a ndmost peop le are participa ti ngjust to ga in the con fi dence
re q u ir ed to speak effec t ively infro nt of a g roup of peo pl e. If yo uare at a ll int eres ted come out a ndpa r tic ipilte. The daba tes a re ofimpro m ptu na tu re a nd heldd uring lunch h ours; so th ere is noneed to wo rry th a t d eba tin g w illtake up too much of yo ur time.T he be s t reaso n fo r comi ng out
a nd deba ting , however, is tha tdeuat in g is fun.
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