dr. ashish jha: "does ‘pay for performance’ work?" 6.28.16
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Aligning Incentives for Better Outcomes:
State of Play
Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH
28 June 2016@ashishkjha
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+ Why do we need pay for
performance?
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+Variations in AMI Mortality
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+Why is Pay for Performance attractive?
Has tremendous face validity
Works in other industries
Aligns incentives for better care:
Allows providers to do well when doing good
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+Incentives 1.0: What did we try?
Premier P4P
Began 2003
Small dollars
Process measures
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Did it work?
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Premier Non-Premier
Onset of Pay-for-performance
Premier HQID: Did It Work?
Jha et al. NEJM 2012
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+And the news is discouraging too…
Headlines over the past 5 years:
“Health Affairs article finds Medicare’s pay-for-
performance did not spur quality improvement”
“New NEJM Report: Pay-for-performance…a bust”
“Paying doctors for quality doesn’t work”
“Medicare’s policy did not reduce infection rates”
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+What is the ACA doing for P4P?
A variety of new programs
Value-based purchasing
Hospital Readmissions Reduction Program
Hospital-Acquired Condition Reduction
Now: MACRA and MIPS
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+ Will this work any better?
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+ We have some evidence in
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+ACA Reform #1: HRRP
Up to 3% penalty for high readmission rate
For a select group of conditions
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+HRRP: Impact on readmission rates
21.5%
17.8%15.3%
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2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
Targeted conditions
Non-targeted conditions
Source: Zuckerman et al., NEJM 2016
ACA
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+Which hospitals are getting penalized?
6.3% 5.7%
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Divorced/nevermarried
Less than HighSchool Diploma
Lowest Quartileof Household
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Low readmission rate hospital High readmission rate hospital
Barnett et al., JAMA IM 2015
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+ACA Reform #2: VBP (aka P4P)
Up to 2% of Medicare payments tied to:
Broad set of quality measures:
Processes
Outcomes
Patient Experience
Efficiency
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+Impact of VBP on Mortality Rate
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VBP Hospitals Non-VBP Hospitals
Onset of VBP
Figueroa et al., BMJ 2016
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+Impact of VBP on Patient Experience
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Onset of VBP
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+What have we learned?
Incentives can move the needle
Simple measures
Narrowly focused
They can have unintended consequences
We need to understand the tradeoffs
Do they make care meaningfully better?
Jury remains out
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+Let’s reframe
Old question: “Does pay-for-performance work?”
New question: “How do we get pay-for-performance to
work?”
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+Incentives 2.0: What might it look like?
Bigger incentives?
Target a small number of outcomes?
Especially over the longer run
Across a broader set of measures
Structure it more simply
Play into intrinsic motivations
More nuanced approach to the safety net