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Drops of Amrita in

Kumbha Mela

By

Mora Abilahoud Singh

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Published by:

Shri Vidya Trust, Rishikesh

To get the printed version of this book in English and Spanish languages with

coloured pictures, please contact Shri Vidya Trust, 186/39, Virbhadra Road (opposite

L.I.C. office), Rishikesh (Uttarakhand) -249201 or email to vpsji@yahoo.co.in

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Table of Contents

KUMBHA MELA: GATHERING IN A VESSEL ... 5

What is Kumbha Mela? .................................. 13

Introduction ................................................... 17

Journey to Haridwar ....................................... 20

Visit to Kumbha Mela Camps in Haridwar ...... 31

Kalyani Devi ................................................... 35

The Jhuna Akhara .......................................... 45

Swami Karnapuri ........................................... 47

Haridwar, April 12, 1998 ................................ 57

Braj Wali Mataji .............................................. 60

Rishikesh, April 13, 1998 ............................... 64

Swami Naradananda ...................................... 66

Rishikesh April14, 1998 ................................. 73

Dr. Devaki Kutty............................................. 75

Penny Mataji .................................................. 83

Swami X ......................................................... 96

Rishikesh April 15, 1998 ................................ 100

Mata Pardeshwari ........................................... 105

Saint Subhadra Mata ..................................... 108

Shivaratri, 21 February 2001.......................... 111

Glossary ......................................................... 121

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People bathing in the holy water of river Ganges

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KUMBHA MELA:

GATHERING IN A VESSEL

Kumbha is a water vessel of a particularly

rounded shape very commonly seen in India. A

potter is called a kumbha-kara, maker of kumbhas. The people of the kumbhakara crafts-guild (caste

group, if you prefer) trace their ancestry to prajapati, the Progenitor who has shaped all the round clay vessels like the earth. Another word for kumbha is

ghata which refers both to the clay vessel and to the

vessel called the body. A clay pot, a kumbha or a

ghata has space inside and space outside. So it is with the cosmic round objects, and also with the

human body.

Just as the body is seventy per cent water, so the common household object called the kumbha is

most often used for fetching water from the village

well or a stream, and for storing the same water.

The kumbhas are not only made of clay; they may be brass, copper or bronze. The largest silver objects in

the world are two huge kumbhas in the Jaipur

palace which were used to bring the holy water from Ganga for drinking as some devout kings would

drink no other water.

The kumbhas can be of many sizes; the

smaller hand carried ones are called kalasha but they serve the same purpose.

What purpose is it? Fetching and storing

water? No, the purpose is fullness. Kumbha or

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kalasha in the Sanskrit aesthetic imagery is also

associated with the breast, filled with mother’s love and our first nutrient.

The culture of India is mother-centred

because it is Mother-centred. Every Hindu has five mothers:

God as Mother of the Universe, so we sing in

the hymns, “Thou art Mother; Thou art Father”;

Earth as mountain-breasted mother overflowing with milk of rivers;

Waters as mother; one even floats in the

mother waters as fetus in the womb and longs to return to that mother throughout one’s life; Ma

Ganga, Mother Ganges is sacred, holy, loving, all-

embracing, sin-washing (does not mother wash her baby of all its dirt?), ever-flowing, living, divine

entity, filled with the milk of love, coming down as

the very incarnation of the river of heaven;

Cow as mother (nobody in India uses the

phrase “holy cow”), go-mata, for, my physical mother

gave me her milk only for a few months and from

the time she stopped, the cow (and other milky beings) have nourished me on theirs; in gratitude do

I honor this mother;

The physical mother who kept me wrapped inside her mother waters; who gave me birth;

nourished me with milk and love; was my first guru

– as the scriptures say.

So enriched is the Hindu by this relationship

with the Mother that the follower of this faith is

emotionally one of the most secure people on earth. All of this motherliness is contained in the kumbha,

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the vessel of mother waters, of nourishing, fulfilling,

security-granting milk of love, of sanctity and holiness of heavens, the star-studded blue ones and

the mind-lake-bejeweled ones within the cephalic

dome.

On this last point, the cephalic dome, the

human head is also compared with a kumbha or

kalasha. It contains the amrita-bindu, the drop of

the drink of immortality that ever drips down the sushumna channel to nourish the constituents and

components of the human person. It is for this

reason that in the oft-sung Hymn of the Thousand Names of Ganga, one of Ganga’s names is Brahma-randhra-samudbhava, She Who flows down from the

Fontanella. What a kumbha we have been given to

carry on our shoulders, at the bottom of which there is an infinitesimally tiny hole, through which the

Amrita drips, and drips, and drips on to the jyotir-linga, the mass of light, in the vessel of the heart.

This can be seen in any Shiva temple where there is a kumbha hung over the Linga, with a tiny hole in

the bottom from which water drips onto the linga, so

that the meditator may remember what is transpiring within his/her person, and not forget

that the kumbha of amrta is ever bountiful and

constantly dripping within.

No wonder, then, that kumbha or kalasha is

one of the eight basic sacred symbols of Hinduism.

No wonder, also, that millions of pilgrims flock to

Mother Ganga, carrying well festooned kumbhas or kalashas to fetch the holy water to make an offering

at the home shrine or a village shrine, and in the

unpolluted eons, drank only the Ganga-jala, the

water from the Ganges which is known for its

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mysterious incorruptibility. Even now, trace the

Ganga flow from the most polluted areas like the city of Kanpur, and twelve miles downstream it is

free of the pollution. Mother not only washes us; she

keeps herself streaming pure. No. We do not bathe

in her waters; we snuggle unto her and, babies that we are, wrap ourselves into the folds of the corners

of her colourful and flowing sari (alas, one of the

most poetic words in the Indian languages, anchal, the free flowing part of a sari, cannot be translated

into English because the western dress does not

have its counterpart). We come back from Her presence, filled, satiated, as when, after a long exile

one might come back to the mother’s hearth and be

fed a meal with her own hands.

All this thought is contained in the word

kumbha. It is not with the earthly waters that we fill

our kumbha and kalasha. We fill it with the milk of

the heavenly river, as we said above. What is known as the Milky Way in English is called akasha-ganga,

Ganges of the Sky, in India. But the thought of

mother’s milk as in the Milky Way is not far from the clear surface of the mind. The milk of heavenly

light it is that constitutes the stream of akasha-

ganga. Here the Greek and the Hindu speak in one

voice. What a shame that the Greek narrative (why do they call it myth?) has been smothered to death

and the Hindu narrative now keeps a lonely vigil of

reality in a world of myths.

Jupiter (Sanskrit dyaus-pitr) was disloyal to his wife Hera and had a son from a mortal woman. He naturally wanted this son to be made immortal. But Mother Nature has so determined that though one may be born of an immortal father’s seed he cannot become immortal unless he has drunk the milk of an immortal mother; only she carries

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the vessels of the nectar of immortality. Jupiter, knowing this well, played a trick on Hera. While she slept, he put his son’s mouth to her breast to drink. As the baby began to suckle, she, startled, rose, and pulled her breast away. The drops of the milk of immortality spilled all over the heavens and became the Milky Way.

Go to Gomukh, where the milky white

glacier releases Ganga to us. Sleep there a night;

akasha-ganga, the milky way, touches her hem to

the mountain top and you know that the heavenly river is making her eternal descent on to the earth.

All we need is a kumbha, made of clay, or brass, or

bronze, or silver, or gold to fill it and carry home the heavens; all we need is a meditating cephalous-

vessel to contain in our mind and body vessel the

essences of heavens, to make our body pure, to make our minds dotted with the light of saintly

stars.

Saintly stars? Yes, from times immemorial,

the Indian astronomers have named the stars after great saints, sages and ascetics. For example the

stars of the Ursula Major are called sapta-rishis,

seven sages. There is now even a star named Gandhi. These thousands of star sages take their

holy immersion in the heavenly Ganga and we only

emulate them by taking our purificatory dips in the heavenly river’s form that has descended on the

earth.

We spoke of the continuity of the Greek

narrative into the Hindu image of Ganga. Even though there may be no historical connection, the

link is in and through the universal mind. On the

other hand, who knows what transpired when Greece and India met; was it only the Bamian Buddhas and nothing else?

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For thousands of years China and India have

shared a long border but the Chinese signs of the zodiac remain different from those of India.

However, the occidental signs are the same as the

Indic ones; mesha is Aries is a goat, and so with all

the rest.

Kumbha, full vessel, is the water sign in India;

so is Aquarius. There is a slight difference between

the roles of Jupiter and Brhaspati. The former is the ruler of the Greek gods; the latter is the Guru of

gods. When the Guru goes to take the immersion,

the disciples follow. When the heavenly Brhaspati, Jupiter, takes an immersion in the celestial river,

the earthly gurus and their disciples emulate the

same.

All of what we have written above is summed up in the word kumbha; this is the beauty of the

language of multilateral realities, incorrectly named

“myth”, that such enormous vistas of meaning can be encapsulated in a single word and all of them are

triggered in the mind’s eye all at once in a flash as

the word is thought, spoken and ritually enacted.

Mela means a get together, a meeting, a

union. Ah, what a concept. What an experience.

Tens of millions of minds, those of heavenly star-

sages and of the earthly pilgrims, all being poured into a single vessel, all partaking of the dripping

drops of the knowledge of immortality. Was it not

Maitreyi, the wife of the sage Yajnavalkya in the Upanishad who had said to her husband:

Yenaham namrta syam kim tena kuryam

What shall I do with that wherewith I shall not be made immortal (amrta)?

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For countless ages the Hindus have prayed in

the words of the Upanishads :

Mrtyor ma amritam gamaya

Lead me from mortality to immortality.

And, even before the Upanishads, the Vedas called the human beings

Amrtasya putrah,

Offsprings of Immortality.

It is this celestial inheritance that we celebrate, commemorate, renew, when we bring

together tens of millions of minds to take a holy

immersion in one spot, so that all our senses and faculties may be baptized, as was Jesus baptized in

the Holy Jordan by his Guru, to dwell in the full

vessel of immortality even while walking on the earth.

How beautifully vivid Mora Singh has made

the scene of the kumbha mela, the meeting of minds that takes place in a vessel. Let us hope and pray

that the sages, invisible and visible, tangible and

intangible, embodied and disembodied, continue to

join the human throng in this vessel century after century, millennium after millennium. Do remember

that not all the thirty million who took a dip on the

24th January 2001 in Prayaga were human beings; naked or clothed, on chariots or on foot, some of

them were devas disguised as human beings,

rubbing shoulders with human beings. It is to rub shoulders with these devas, and with the

disembodied sages who live only the bodies made of

mind-stuff that we all gather in these sacred spots.

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Thank you, Mora, for reminding us. May your

book be read by many millions and invite them to the next “gathering inside the vessel of the nectar of

immortality”.

(Swami Veda Bharati)

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What is Kumbha Mela?

Kumbha Mela is an old Indian traditional festivity in which hundreds of thousands of people

go for pilgrimage to receive the benefits of Amrita, the divine nectar that gives immortality (liberating the spirit from the cycles of reincarnation). The word

Kumbha in the Sanskrit language means pitcher but

also means the zodiac sign of Aquarius; the word

Mela means meeting. The Meeting or Festival of Aquarius brings people together every three years at

one of the four following sacred cities in India:

Haridwar, Allahabad, Ujjain and Nasik.

According to the Indian mythology, the Amrita

drops from the divine Kumbha (pitcher) while the

gods and the devils are fighting for it. It happens

every three years in four different cities of India at a certain time. These cities have in common sacred

rivers in which the pilgrims bathe as a flowing form

of the Amrita. For this auspicious occasion, saints from all over India also go to the chosen cities to

receive the blessings of the drops of the Amrita.

Those who live in the Himalayas doing penances and austerities also come out of their caves and

travel to one of the four chosen holy cities. They

exchange ideas, give lectures and perform the

bathing ritual in sacred rivers. They meet other saints and give guidance to the spiritual seekers

who appreciate the saint’s words as drops of the

divine Amrita.

One of the most important features of the

Kumbha Mela is the parade of the sadhus of the

Akharas (Hindu religious institutions). The leaders

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of these Akharas go with their respective groups of

followers to bathe in the holy river with all the protocol and paraphernalia of the occasion. Many of

these ascetics are Naga Babas who go in the parade

totally naked covering their bodies only with ashes.

Astrologers calculate the exact years of the festivity. For the auspicious bathing ritual days,

they take into account especially the position of

Jupiter (the planet that is considered to have influence on the spiritual aspects) in relation with

the constellations, with the sun and with the moon.

It is believed that those who take bath in the sacred river at a particular auspicious time attain Moksha

(liberation).

When the Kumbha Mela is held in Haridwar or

in Allahabad, the bathing ceremony takes place in the river Ganges and that makes it more special for

the millions of Ganges devotees. Since ancient

times, the belief of the benefit of bathing in the river Ganges is very much present in the Indian mind,

culture and tradition. The reason of this is the belief

in the divine origin of the River Ganges. It is explained in Mahabharata, - the biggest and most

ancient epic in the human history- , that the Ganges

came down from the heaven through the dreadlocks

of Lord Shiva. Only He, Lord Shiva, could control the tremendous impact of bringing the celestial river

to this world:

“When that highly sacred stream fell from the firmament, Maheshwara (Lord Shiva) held it on his

head. It is that very stream which is adored in

heaven”

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(Mahabharata: Anushashan Parva-Section

26).

The spiritual benefits of bathing in the Ganges

are also mentioned in the Mahabharata, as follows:

“That end which a creature is capable of

attaining by penances, by Brahmacharya (celibacy), by sacrifices, or by practicing renunciation, one is

sure to attain by only living by the side of the

Bhagirathi (Ganges) and bathing in its sacred waters. Those creatures whose bodies have been

sprinkled with the sacred waters of Bhagirathi (Ganges) or whose bones have been laid in the

channel of that sacred stream, have not to fall away – from heaven at any time.”

(Mahabharata: Anushashan Parva-Section 26)

There are many other festivities related to the Ganges, but the Kumbha Mela at Allahabad and

Haridwar are the most famous. People from all over

the world also join the Festival of Aquarius. For such a special ceremony, foreigners have been

coming since ancient times. In fact, one of the

earliest written references about a sort of spiritual

festivity of this kind goes back to the year 644 A.D. when a Chinese traveler called Huan-Tsang wrote

about it. He came to India during the reign of King

Harshavardan at Allahabad and narrated what he saw. Though it is difficult to affirm when and how

the Kumbha Mela started, the comments given by

this Chinese traveler show that it is a very old tradition.

In Subash Rai’s book, Kumbha Mela, it is

mentioned (Page-21):

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“However, the designation of Prayag

(Allahabad) fair of 644 A.D. as ageless by Huan-Tsang indicates that such gatherings and the ritual

bathing were in practice since early times in India.”

Some people believe that Adi Guru Shankaracharya, the great saint and organizer of

the Hindu religion, is responsible for organizing the

Kumbha Mela the way it is held nowadays.

In the same book, Kumbha Mela of Subash Rai, page 22, he wrote:

“There are some, who believe that it was Adi

Guru Shankaracharya, who gave final shape to this practice by force of his magic personality”

The fact is that in the third millennium of the

Christian era, still the ancient practice of the Festival of Aquarius takes place every three years in

four different sacred cities of India. Due to the

facilities of fast communications and easy

transportation, nowadays more people have the opportunity of participating in the Kumbha Mela

than in the previous celebrations. Newspapers said

that in the Maha Kumbha Mela 2001 in Allahabad, more than 30 million people got together on the

most important bathing day.

There might be some truth in the stories of the Amrita dropping during the Festival of Aquarius

and to find that, I think one should try to participate

and experience personally.

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Introduction

Being aware of my spiritual nature, I was

searching for the guidance to attain Self-realization. I was born and brought up in Caracas. I studied

primary and High School at San José de Tarbes with

French Christian Catholic Nuns and then, in the

Metropolitan University, I got my degree as Professor in Modern Languages. Though I got the best

education anyone can get in Venezuela, I was

looking for something beyond professional training. Now I can say that I was looking for a spiritual path.

In the search for that path, I attended

relaxation courses, the universal energy (healing with the hands), and other similar courses in

Caracas. Unfortunately, none of these studies

fulfilled my intellectual as well as my spiritual urge. But the spiritual side of my being always kept an

open window from which I could see some features

of my own inner world. I used to read books about

philosophy, theology, new wave, even esoteric books to find answers to my questions. However none of

these readings and courses gave either convincing

answers to my questions or guidance for a better way of living. Until August 1994, that I met my

husband who was the Indian Ambassador to

Venezuela. Through him, I came into contact with the yoga and meditation field. He has been

practicing yoga and meditation since he was 16

years old. With his vast experience, he guided my very first steps into the meditation path.

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Two years later, in February 1996, we got

married in New Delhi, India. We lived in Venezuela until December 1996 and we moved to Havana

where my husband was appointed as Ambassador of

India in Cuba. We lived there up to 1998 when my husband retired from the Indian Foreign Service.

In April 1998, I had the opportunity of

participating in the Maha Kumbha Mela in Haridwar

where millions of people got together with the belief of receiving the benefits of all the aspects of Amrita.

Participating in the Kumbha Mela was an

extremely interesting and rewarding event in my live. During my stay in the Kumbha Mela, I carried

out nine interviews, six women and three men who

went also there. The particularity among these

people is that they had chosen to have spiritual lives some as ascetics and others as people who do

service to humanity. During my conversation with

them, they talked about their lives and also about the Kumbha Mela festivities. The interviews were not

planned in advance; on the contrary, they were done

as they were coming up. Though we were guided by a known person, everything came out

spontaneously, and I always felt that there was a

force guiding us. Even I liked the fact that at the

end there were more women interviewed because I was always concerned about the freedom of women

in India to choose their own way of living. For my

surprise, during Kumbha Mela, I could see how now women are participating directly in the spiritual

field. In the professional field, I came across many

very well educated women but in the books of spirituality, mostly the names of men are found as

renowned gurus. Of course, there were exceptions in

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some of the ancient books. For example, saints

couples were mentioned like Vashita and Arundati –giving some recognition to Arundati. Also Mirabay,

the great poet devotee of Lord Krishna is sometimes

mentioned.

In modern times, the name of the great saint

Anandamay shines with the rest of the great saints

from India. But she had to fight with her spiritual

strength to convince not only her family but her own husband, about her sanctity.

Times have changed and many of the ladies

Swamis I met are having their own group of disciples and their own Ashrams. About the men

Swamis, they are also changing many rigid believes

into a softer system. Many changes are taking place

in India now and it is amazing to see how the process is taking place with ancient infrastructure

traditions like Kumbha Mela. Juxtaposition of the

new and the ancient is clearly found even in the streets where bullock carts and elephants are very

much used as the new modern full air conditioned

cars. That is the contemporary life in India and that is one of the things I could easily observe during

Kumbha Mela. I have found very interesting the

experiences I had during those days and their

influence in my life. I hope the readers may find them as interesting as I do.

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Journey to Haridwar

When we were living in Havana, we traveled to India in March 1997. During the trip, we visited

Haridwar and Rishikesh and we saw the works that

the Government of the state of Uttar Pradesh was doing in Haridwar and Rishikesh for the religious

festival called Maha Kumbha Mela of 1998. Many

people were telling us about the meeting of the saints that happens after every 12 years there.

While people were telling me about it, I remembered

some stories that I read some years ago related to

the Kumbha Mela, in the “Autobiography of a Yogi” written by the great spiritual master Paramahansa

Yogananda. I thought that it might be a good idea to

come and meet the saints but many people discouraged. They said that it would not be

convenient due to the problems caused by such a

big pilgrimage meeting. They also said that the government was expecting around 11 million people

to visit Haridwar and Rishikesh for the festivity.

In addition to that, they told me many stories about the people who died in stampedes that

occurred without reason and also about the

dangerous fights among the sadhus (ascetics) of

different the Akharas. I felt that they were giving me very good reasons for not coming to the festival.

Besides, my husband said that it would be very

difficult to come back to India due to our duties in Havana. So, I forgot completely about Kumbha Mela,

until one day, five months later, something

happened in Havana that changed my mind…

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Havana, August 1997

After bathing and doing Yoga Asanas, (physical yoga exercises), I did a very long and deep

meditation. During the meditation, I had a vision

where I was told to go to the 1998 Maha Kumbha Mela in India and write a book about my experiences there. When my meditation finished, I

was confused and even scared of obeying this

command especially after all the stories I was told about it in India. I laid on the carpet where I used to

do yoga, and started thinking about it. I was trying

to understand how this order came to me when I was not even thinking about anything related to it.

In fact, I was too busy with my duties to think of

anything else.

Our residence in Havana had a beautiful garden with many different tropical flowers, mango

and banana trees. I went and sat on the hammock

that was set between the two mango trees to think about how I could go to the Kumbha Mela without

being in danger. I was wondering how a small city

like Haridwar could accommodate as much as the entire Cuban population in it. When my husband

came from office, I told him about my meditation.

He said that he would try to send me if I wanted to go, but for him, it was going to be difficult to go

because of his duties at the Embassy. I told him

that I would not like to go without him because I

would not be able to manage it alone without knowing the local language, especially for the type of

event we were talking about. At the end of our

conversation he said: “If God wants us to be there, we will definitely be there. Don’t worry about it. We

will see.”

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In the middle of March of 1998, my husband’s

mother was not well and my husband had to go to see her in India. In April, she still was not well. So,

my husband thought that I should join him there.

But still he was not sure if he could go to Rishikesh due to his mother’s condition. He contacted Penny

Mataji, a Canadian born lady who has been living in

Haridwar and Rishikesh for the last 25 years, and

requested her to arrange the tour for us, and the meeting with some real spiritual sadhus.

During her first 12 years in India, she lived in

an Ashram with her husband in Haridwar. When her husband decided to move back to Canada, she

did not want to leave India and she stayed alone.

She bought a house in Rishikesh at the bank of the Ganges, which is her own Ashram. She knows very

well all the Ashrams and Swamis of the area and all

of them know her also. We knew that, she was the

perfect person to organize the meeting with the real sadhus and Mahatmas. The first time we met her

was during my first trip to India when my husband

took me to Rishikesh to see the house he was building for us when would get retired from the

Indian Foreign Service. I remembered clearly that

she was sitting in a rocking chair in her balcony and

her neighbor introduced us to her. While having tea, she explained many things about Indian culture and

tradition that I did not know at that time. Since

then she has been always a great support.

On 25, March 1998, early morning, my

husband phoned me at Havana from New Delhi and

told me: “You make the flight reservations via Rome. Then, you take an Air India flight to come to New

Delhi.” When I tried to make the reservations to go

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to Rome, there were no seats available. I could not

believe it. I thought that all the circumstances were favorable for me to go to India, so how come there

was not vacancy in the flights in the next days?

What to do? I have learnt to trust God. I said to myself: “If God wants me to be there, I will be there.

I will not worry.” Next morning, at 8:30 A.M., I

received a phone call from the Indian Embassy

saying that reservations were confirmed not only up to Rome but also up to New Delhi. I knew that if I

had to be there, I would certainly be.

I was excited but, at the same time, I was scared. Surrender is very important in the spiritual

path and only after surrendering to God, I got the

strength to start my pilgrimage to the Kumbha Mela.

I also thought that participating in the

Kumbha Mela was a good opportunity to meet Self-

realized people that were already on the spiritual

path. By meeting them and talking to them, I could go deeper on my own path of Self-realization.

I left Havana on 4th of April for Rome. It was a

nine and half hours flight. In Rome, I stayed with our friends, the Singhs, for two days and then, I

took my flight to New Delhi. After, more than 8

hours flight, I reached New Delhi. My husband was waiting for me at the airport. We were very happy to

meet again after more that 15 days of separation.

We stayed at Gymkhana Club in New Delhi for two nights. We visited my husband’s mother who was

better. I also took some time for doing some

shopping required for the pilgrimage trip to

Haridwar and Rishikesh.

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Our friends from Canada, Chand and Urvashi

Mehta, also came for the Kumbha Mela. We had dinner at the Club and we planned to go together. I

was happy that they could come along because

besides of enjoying good company, I would not be

alone in Haridwar and Rishikesh if my husband had to go back to Delhi,.

For more than one week my husband was

trying to get the confirmation for our train reservations from Delhi but we were confirmed only

the morning of our trip to Haridwar in the train

station itself. It was very difficult to find seats available due to the heavy bookings for the Kumbha Mela.

That morning we got up very early to go to the

train station and see if we could get our seats. We reached the station before Chand and Urvashi. It

was 5:45 a.m. and there were already so many

people that it was very difficult to reach the board were the lists of passengers were displayed. Many

lists were there and only by pushing, we could find

our names, the seat numbers and the number of the coach card.

An employee of the Ministry of Railways told

us that they had provided extra coaches to meet the enormous demand for traveling to the Kumbha Mela

area. Only by pushing, we came away from the

board and started searching for Chand and Urvashi.

Just before going into the train, we met them and went very fast inside the coach car. We placed our

luggage on the suitcase stands and sat thanking

God to be able to be in the train. We bought some magazines and biscuits from the sellers that came

inside while waiting for the train to start. We were

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talking about how lucky we were when the train

started moving at exactly 7:15 A.M. I felt a little uneasy: mixed feelings of fear, restlessness,

excitement, and at the same time, I was sure that

everything would go fine. I just relaxed and meditated for a short while. After meditation, I felt

much better and all my doubts and fears went

away.

The trip was, after all, quite comfortable. At 7:30 A.M. the waiter offered a nice hot cup of tea.

While enjoying my hot morning tea, I opened the

little short blue curtain that covered the window. Trains in India go relatively slowly, so one can

observe and enjoy the view while the train is

moving. The bright light of the Indian sun could be felt even through the dark glass of the train coach

windows. One could also see the common morning

scenes in the Indian fields: Group of women in their colorful saris walking with pieces of wood on their

heads; girls with plaits walking in groups towards

their schools wearing their school uniforms (usually

Salvar Kurta); groups of boys going also to school wearing British style school uniforms (some of them

even wear ties and blazers); men going to work

wearing western style pants and shirts with their lunch packed in small thermos. The green cultivated

fields were adding color to the kinetic painting that

could be seen in the square blue metal frame of the train’s window.

Breakfast was served at 8 o’clock. It was good

but the vegetarian meal was too spicy for my taste. I don’t know why usually the vegetarian food is

spicier than the non-vegetarian. I could calm my

burned mouth with a sweet cup of tea that the

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waiter gave. After breakfast, I slept until almost

reaching Haridwar. The sun was stronger and one could feel the heat even though we were in an air-

conditioned coach.

We reached Haridwar at 11:40 A.M. There was a big crowd at the train station, more that what is

usual. Many people were wearing orange cloth

(many of the Indian sadhus wear orange cloth);

some others were beggars and others were coolies (suitcase carriers) pushing each other trying to carry

the luggage of the tourists. We walked with great

difficulty up to the tourist office where a friend of my husband, Ajit Singh, was waiting for us and who

helped us to find a reliable taxi.

There is hardly half an hour journey on the main road between Haridwar and Rishikesh. But

due to the rush and the crowd, we had to go by the

road that goes through Rajaji Park, a longer road to

Rishikesh. It was nicer to go by the park way because we could enjoy the scenic beauty of the

foothill of the Himalayan Mountains as well the

green splendor of the river Ganges.

The green color of the Ganges and the shining

reflection of the noon Indian sun gave me the feeling

as if millions of emeralds were navigating on the surface of the water. There were no other cars on

the route, so we could take our time, even for taking

some photos while we where going by the side of the

river.

Although it was the month of April, and the

rainy season had finished long time back, the flow of

the river was very strong. It was good to see the

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strong current because many people were going to

bathe in the Ganges in the next few days.

It was nice and calm until we reached the very

crowded streets of Rishikesh. There were cows, pigs,

bullock carts, horse carriages, cars, buses, trucks and people that were all moving in different

directions. Although there were a lot of traffic

policemen, the unorganized flow of moving elements

gave the sense of total chaos.

From all over India, pilgrims had come to

Rishikesh and Haridwar for such a special occasion.

Sometimes, it was easy to make out from the type of cloth they were wearing, from which part of India

they were coming. The easiest to differentiate were

the Rajasthani groups. The women from Rajasthan usually wear a long skirt with a short blouse

covering them with a bright colorful chunni (long

scarf). They also wear bangles from the upper most part of their arms up to the wrists. Many of them

also wear a big ring in the nose.

Rajasthani men usually wear either a white or

a colorful cloth tied as a turban to be protected from the sun. Usually they wear dhotis, the most

commonly used cloths for men in India. Men wear

dhoti according to their regional style. It can be from two to five meters long piece of cloth that is folded

on the waist covering the legs. On the top, either

Kurtas or shirts are used.

We could also see the simple Indian peasant wearing no shoes. Many of the pilgrims were

walking bare feet on the hot asphalt as smoothly as

if they were walking on carpets.

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After finding our way in the crowd, we arrived

at the hotel where we could find rooms for all of us. It was a new, small hotel that was located in the

heart of Rishikesh. We were lucky to find rooms

available during the Kumbha Mela time. The room

and the bathroom were very small but they were clean. Also, they had restaurant service and phone.

It was good for staying few days.

We rested for a short while and had lunch in the small restaurant of the hotel. Food was not bad

and they made it without spices for me. That was a

great relief because it is very difficult for Indian cooks to make food without chilies.

We tried to contact Penny Mataji but she was

not at home. As she was the one who was organizing our tour, we wanted to know if the arrangements

were finally made. It was very important to be

properly guided because we were told that there

were a lot of fake sadhus and fake saints who claimed themselves to be enlightened.

While we were resting in the hotel, she

phoned us and confirmed that everything was fixed and organized for us. We agreed in meeting the day

after for lunch and she would introduce to us the

people who were coming with us.

After resting and having tea, we went to see

our house that was still under construction. As our

house is located in the main ghat (bathing area) of

Rishikesh, it was far from the hotel we were staying in and it was difficult to reach there because of the

crowd. That was the first time in my life that I saw

so many people together. We had to go walking because roads were closed. Only private cars with

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some special permission could be seen on the

crowded roads. We went through the inner marked area evading the main roads but still it was very

crowded. When we reached our house, we sat on the

upper terrace and enjoyed the view. At sunset time, we could see from our house the Pundits (priests)

performing the Arti ceremony.

Arti is a Hindu ancient ceremony in which

offerings of flowers, incense and light (in the form of fire) are made to deities. It is performed just before

sunset and nowadays the offerings are readily

available on the main ghats of cities on the Ganges side. The offering is a sort of small basket made of

green leaves containing marigolds, jasmines and

roses; a small round oil-lamp made with bran wheat

flour with a small cotton and a small piece of camphor (for lighting the lamp), and a stick of

incense is available and anyone can by it for two

Rupees. A group of Pundits holding big devotional lamps lighted with fire lead the ceremony in which

devotional songs and prayer are recited. While the

Pundits perform the holy ritual, the people light

their camphor and incense and offer the green leave basket arrangement to the Ganges. Also, it is said

that in the moment of the offerings one should make

a wish. It is beautiful to see many little lights at the same time floating in the Ganges. In the dark night

background, thousands of earthen lamps were

looking as if shooting stars where moving with the flow of the river.

When it was already passed 8 P.M., we went

back to the hotel through the same inner market road. After bathing, we met Chand and Urvashi and

had dinner together. Then we sat on the hotel

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terrace to enjoy the night and the cool breeze that

always goes with the Ganges.

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Visit to Kumbha Mela Camps in

Haridwar

April 11, 1998

The most important part of journey was going

to start and I needed the strength that I only find in

meditation. During meditation, I asked God for his blessings and guidance to find the right people for

the interviews. With the conviction that I got His

blessings, I started packing in a briefcase whatever I thought we were likely to need there. I also ordered

from the restaurant some vegetarian food to take

along with us. Around 11 o’clock in the morning,

Penny Mataji came with some sadhus who were going to take and guide us in Haridwar. The leader

of the group was Swami Naradananda.

Penny Mataji said that she knew Swami Naradananda since at least 20 years and she

considered him as a real Mahatma. He was wearing

saffron color cloth and through his very thick hair,

beard and moustache, one could see light shinning in his big black eyes. Penny Mataji said that he was

very well educated and had a Masters degree in

Indian religious philosophy. She said that she was sure that he is the best guide we could get. With

him, there were four of his disciples including a

young lady sanyasini. Her name is Maharani Pardeshwari (Queen of Mercury) alias Sanjul. When I met her, I thought that I should ask her for an

interview because she was so young and so pretty

that she must really have some spiritual call for

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renouncing the world but I waited until knowing her

more. There were also others disciples of Swami Naradananda but they did not go along with us to

meet the sadhus in Haridwar. We dropped them on

the way in the Ashram where we were going to

spend the night. Urvashi and Chand did not come with us. They wanted to visit a beautiful city called

Misoury near Rishikesh.

Swami Naradananda had a big white jeep to accommodate all of us. He had obtained a special

permission for his car to move freely during the

Kumbha Mela time. Due to the heavy crowds it took

time to reach Haridwar. Meanwhile, we were getting our cameras and tape recordings ready. I was very

exited to be at the Kumbha Mela and meeting those

sadhus who were considered spiritually accomplished.

When we reached Haridwar, I was amazed to

see that it was far more crowded than Rishikesh. I could not believe my eyes. There were so many

people that it looked like the whole population of

India came to the Kumbha. !I am sure you cannot

imagine so many people in such in a small area! Swami Naradananda said that in the Guinness

Book of Records the Kumbha Mela entered as the

biggest meeting with a single purpose ever. After I heard that, I did not say anything else about the

crowds.

There were tents of every size on both sides of

the road. In big areas there were many big tents together having the same color and material.

According to Swami Naradananda, these big tents of

the same kind were big Ashrams from all over India that had come to the Kumbha Mela.

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Some tents were giving food free (Bhandara)

and long lines of people were standing and waiting to be served. To give free food to people is

considered to be very good charity and it is very

common at all the holy places in India.

Then, we went out of the main road and went into a dusty and dry area where there were huge

tents. We parked the car and went inside of the

main tent.

At the entrance, there was a big Shivalinga of

crystal of 65 kg and there were many people paying

homage to it. Swami Naradananda talked to some people that were coming from Karpatri Institution in

Banaras. He asked for an interview with an

important person of the institute.

We waited for some time and a boy came and asked us to follow him. We passed through many

tents including one where they were having at least

20 Holstein cows. It is common in India that some sadhus or big Mahatmas travel taking along with

them their source of milk. It may be cows, sheep, or

goats. Some people said that even when Mahatma Gandhi used to travel, his followers were carrying

along a goat for his daily milk. Many times in India,

some milkmen mix the milk with water and it is not considered to be pure and good. Also, pure milk is

very important especially for those who make a sort

of fast in which they drink only milk, or sometimes,

they take milk and fruits.

After the cow’s tent we entered into another

huge tent where a group of actors were playing Ram

Lila, (the life of Ram, an Avatar or incarnation of Lord Vishnu). It is also common that during the

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religious festivities these types of plays are

performed. A crowd of approximately 70 people was watching the play.

We continued our way through tents,

following always the boy, until we reached a medium side tent into which the boy entered. We

followed him.

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Kalyani Devi

Inside the tent, there was a very pretty lady sitting on a divan. She was quite fair and her hair

and eyes were black. Her black hair was tied in the

back and a little kajal (black eye cosmetic) was decorating her big eyes. She was wearing a chiffon

yellow sari. There were four more people in the tent

who were taking care of her. We saluted her by folding our hands and saying Hari Om. (This is the

way people greet in Rishikesh and in Haridwar, Hari

one of the names of Lord Vishnu and Om is the

primordial sound). She did the same thing and asked us to sit. We sat on small folding chairs that

were opened for us to sit. First of all, she offered

chai (tea) to us and we accepted. Swami Naradananda told her about my dream and the

book I was asked to write. After listening, she was

willing to share some of her knowledge with us. I

asked her: “What is the origin of the Kumbha Mela?” She answered like this:

“After churning the ocean (Accordingly to the

mythology the origin of the world is the ocean and its nature is the like the nature of the milk. When

the churning started, many things came out of it

including the Amrita) there was a discussion among the gods regarding what to do with the poison which

had come out of the ocean. They came to Haridwar

where Lord Shiva’s marriage was performed and His

wife (Sati) had died during the Yagya performed by her father Daksha. Mahadev (Lord Shiva) was

approached to do something with the poison. He

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thought that by swallowing it, His entire body will

be poisoned and it will not be proper. By keeping it in His mouth, His words will become poisonous

which is not proper either. He, therefore, decided to

keep it in His throat. The Amrita, that had come also

out from the ocean, was kept in a pitcher (Kumbha), which could be accessible at the time of a particular

planetary configuration. This happens once in 12

years and therefore the Kumbha Mela happens with a gap of 12 years. There are many cities associated

with different parts of the body of the Lord.

Haridwar is the place of abode of the heart of Lord Shiva. God’s things originated from His heart. There

are many other cities that are also associated with

the legend of Shiva like Dwarka, which is

considered to be His naval.

During the Kumbha Mela in Haridwar, people

come to offer something to the pitcher that absorbs

all offerings. It is not only the common people but also important people who come during this time.”

We finished drinking our chai and before

leaving, she gave one mala (Hindu rosary) made of

crystal beats to my husband and one to me. We thanked her for giving us her time and cooperation.

She came all the way through the tents up to the

entrance door to say Hari Om to us. We came into the jeep and continued our journey.

It was about 4 o’clock and the sun was still

very strong. There was plenty of dust because too many people were walking on the outside of the

asphalted road (and also on the asphalted road of

course).

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Thinking of the gift the lady gave, I asked

Swami Naradananda what a mala was and what types of mala were available. He explained: “A mala

is for counting mantras (prayers) and it has 108

beads. They can be made of crystals, precious or

semi precious stones, wood, metals, pearls but the most commonly used are the ones made of seeds.

Each person chooses the mala according to his or

her nature. The followers or devotees of Lord Shiva, for example, use the Rudraksha Mala. Rudraksha is

a rare seed that has different shapes or faces when

it is developed. The smaller the seed, the more

expensive the mala is”. Then he asked me if I have ever seen one. I said “of course not.” Then he said

that he would take us to a place where I could see

the Rudraksha trees and seeds. So, he deviated from the way where we were going to and went towards

the Ganges side.

All over Ganges area, there were specially arranged places for bathing. On our way, we saw

many people taking bath in the Ganges. We could

see people of all ages, but mostly they were adult

and old people. Women were wearing either saris or Salvaar Kamiz for bathing in the Ganges. In India,

women always have to bathe in public places with

cloth on. In some private clubs or five star hotels in Mumbai or Bangalore some women (mostly young

girls) wear swimming suits. For men, the rules are

totally different. Men wear underwear for bathing. But the Naga Babas not only bath but also go

everywhere totally nude.

The road that passes by the Ganges side in

Haridwar is very pretty. We stopped in a small Ashram where we could see a lot of huge trees from

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outside. The buildings inside as well as the

boundary wall were pink but the main iron gate was black. We came inside looking around for the

Rudraksha tree. But as soon as I came inside, I felt

a very deep peace inside me like sometimes I felt

when I was in an empty Christian church near my house in Caracas; Or when I used to sit on the white

sand to see the amazing sunsets of the colorful

Caribbean beaches. The union of the endless blue almost imperceptible line of the horizon of the sea

with the baby blue color of the sky usually gives me

the feeling of infinity. Just now, while writing about that feeling, some memories came to my mind of

what I think was the first time in my life I felt that

deep inner peace.

It was in the Gran Sabana (Great Sabana) in

the Bolivar State of Venezuela. I was 14 years old

and I went with a group of school’s mates to a

Christian mission that the nuns of my school used to give some support called Kavanayen.

The Gran Sabana in known for being the first

solid part of the earth to come out of the sea when the world started developing. It is in fact, the most

ancient part of the world. Topographically, it is a

vast Sabana in which are tepuyes or mesetas. Tepuyes are a sort of mountain with a plain square

top that looks like a table. The Spanish name for

them is Mesetas and it means “like a table”. This

area is mostly unpopulated excepting for some native Indian tribes that have been living there since

remote times. Some Christian missions have settled

in the area and Kavanayen, was one of them.

So, my school planned a visit and I went with

a big group of friends from my class. To reach there

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from Caracas, it took almost two days by bus

stopping one night on the way. As it was a very long journey, we stopped one night in Ciudad Bolivar.

Next day we continued our way south. When we

entered the Gran Sabana, I felt scared because there

were no roads of any kind, no towns, no signal, no people, and no cultivated lands. We could only see a

huge sabana area for many hours. Some of us

thought that the driver got lost because after so many hours on the way, there was nothing coming

up. Then, around 5 o’clock in the evening we started

seeing the tepuyes and these different-looking mountains amazed me. But still the uneasiness was

there because I thought that even though the

tepuyes were appearing, it did not mean that we

were going in the right direction towards Kavanayen.

Anyhow, do not ask me how, but we reached

the Kavanayen Mission at the sunset. When we

arrived, many native Indian children came toward the bus and greeted us. We also saluted them and

played with them for some time. We took our bags to

one of the big houses where we were going to sleep. The mission had five big building and a church. One

of the biggest ones was the dormitory and bathroom

for students; the other one was for the nuns and ladies secular missionaries; two big ones for the

Indians living there and a small dispensary. Priests

usually stayed in the room on one side of the

church. There were around one hundred native Indians including children living there plus priests,

nuns and secular missionaries.

For my surprise, inside the house there was a long dormitory with no furniture and no beds. We

had to go to a storage room and bring small

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mattresses to put on the floor and make our beds to

sleep there. I was astonished because I had never slept without a bed in my all years of life. But what

could I do? No choice. Mom was not there to take

care of me. I arranged my mattress and put a bed sheet that was very big on it and lay down for

sometime. We were very tired so my friends also

made their beds very fast and lay down. We wanted

to sleep but one of the nuns that had gone with us called Sister Elizabeth, had a very bad temper, and

as soon as she saw us, she shouted at us and told

us to go and bathe quickly because dinner was going to be served in 10 minutes.

At that moment I wanted anything but

bathing. But as we had Sister Elizabeth checking upon us, we had to run and bathe in common

bathrooms areas separated by thin walls and by

plastic shower curtains. When I saw that, I just wanted to be at home bathing in my own bathroom

without anybody around. But, no choice, Sister

Elizabeth was there standing up at the main

bathroom door like a policeman. So, I bathed as fast as I could. When I started to put my clothes on, the

“sergeant” Sister Elizabeth shouted at us again

saying that food was already on the table and that we should be in the dining hall in less than 3

minutes. As fast as I could, I put my jeans, shirt

and my sleeper on and went to put my dirty clothes in my bag. While going out of the bathroom my

friend Rudimary told me to wait for her because she

was not ready. I waited for her but she took more than 15 minutes to get ready. I was sure that we

were going to have another cold water bath when

“sergeant” Sister Elizabeth would see us coming late

to the dining hall.

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When I saw my friend coming to the dormitory

combing her long black wet hair, I started fighting with her because I was sure what would happen

later. We argued all the way down to the dining hall

until we heard the shouts of “sergeant” Sister Elizabeth. For me, her scolding took centuries to

finish and then, when we sat for eating our dinner,

there was very little food left on the trays and it was

cold, of course. I did not stop fighting with my friend until we went to sleep. But I could not sleep. The

small mattress was very uncomfortable and I was

scared of the snakes that could come in the night while I was sleeping. I tried my best but I could not

sleep.

I was not the only one who could not sleep. My friends also were awake. So we decided to go out

to the inner patio and talk. We took some snacks to

eat because we were hungry. Very slowly, without making any noise, with our slippers in one hand

and the snacks in the other, we sneaked out of

dormitory and went outside to the patio. We left the

door open in case the patrol of the “Sergeant Elizabeth” would come and catch us again.

Outside, it was a little chilly but pleasant. We

went up to a small wall of stones and sat there. We started chatting while we were eating the snacks.

Then, I saw the amazing beautiful sky full of big

stars as I had never seen before. There were so many stars that I thought that if I started counting,

I would never finish. My friends also were amazed to

such a beautiful night.

I lie down on the wall made of stones to

admire it better. The stars were shining very much

and also shooting stars could be seen. Some of them

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were twinkling more than the others but in general,

they were looking like many big balls of light having a contest to see who shines more. I started feeling

as if I was touching them, playing with them… as if I

were one of them. I forgot totally where I was or who I was. I was just one within the infinite universe. I

was in absolute peace, in absolute calmness and I

had never felt that before.

That was the same happy peaceful feeling I had in that small pink Ashram. I was puzzled why I

was feeling like that. So, I asked Swami

Naradananda why was that small place so special? What made it like that? He said that the Ashram

was a sacred place because the Mahasamadhi (place

where a saint’s body or ashes are kept) of the great

saint Shri Lahiri Mahashaya was there. He pointed out a small pink construction in which some stairs

were. I immediately remembered whom Swami Naradananda was talking about. Shri Lahiri Mahashaya was the guru of the guru of

Paramahansa Yogananda and he mentioned him

many times in his books.

I took off my tennis shoes (in India before

entering into a sacred place, shoes have to be taken

off) and climbed up the stairs. On the top of the

construction, there was a little pink temple 4 feet height and two and half feet width. Inside, there was

a photograph of Shri Lahiri Mahashaya (same as in

Paramahansa Yogananda’s book) and a Shivalinga decorated with flowers. There was also an oil lamp

lighted and incense burning.

Swami Naradananda explained that under the small temple some of his ashes where kept. I felt like

meditating there. I asked Swami Naradananda and

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my husband if there was any problem for them to

spend some time at the Mahasamadhiof Shri Lahiri Mahashaya. They liked the place also and agreed of

meditating there. I don’t know exactly for how long I

meditated, but it was one of the most beautiful

meditations I have ever had. After doing our Pranam (salutation) to the great saint, we went down stairs

and looked for the Rudraksha tree. It was one of

those huge trees that were just by the side of the temple of Shri Lahiri Mahashaya. My husband

picked up one Rudraksha seed and showed it to me.

It was a small, brown oval shape seed.

I think that place had a very special meaning.

Shri Lahiri Mahashaya is one of the greatest

spiritual masters of India. By the side of his

Mahasamadhi, there was a Rudraksha tree from where the seed of Lord Shiva’s mala are grown. Lord

Shiva, according to the Tantric tradition as well as

the Yogic tradition, is considered to be the primordial Guru. It is said that the Guru’s Mantra

has a seed that should be grown with the soil of the

disciple’s Sadhana (spiritual practice) and with the

daily water of the japa (repetition of the mantra). When the seed grows and becomes a tree, then the

disciple is no more a disciple but a guru who will

give many seeds to be cultivated by his disciples. That’s how the Guru Force manifests from spiritual

master to spiritual master and this cycle has been

rotating in the endless wheel called time.

As we had spent a long time in the Shri Lahiri Mahashaya Mahasamadhi, Swami Naradananda insisted to go soon because it was already 5 P.M.

and we had to go to the Akharas to interview some

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sadhus. I did not feel like going but I had a task to

accomplish. So, we continued our journey.

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The Jhuna Akhara

We went towards the center of Haridwar. The closer we got, the more crowded it became. Swami Naradananda stopped at the side of the road 20

minutes after and parked the car in a narrow street. He explained that we were going to visit one of the

biggest Akharas in Haridwar where we would

interview some of the sadhus.

Many people were coming in and going out through the huge black grill door. Very tall

boundary walls were separating the Jhuna Akhara

from the rest of the world. From the entrance, we could see inside the campground and the big orange

building that is the main headquarter of the Akhara.

On the top, an orange flag was moving with the

wind. A very strong smell of marijuana mixed with smoke covered the whole area. It was a big

campground with thousands of tents of different

colors and sizes in it. I should confess that I felt scared entering the big grill door that separated the

Akhara from the road. I prayed to God and put us in

His hands while crossing that line. To be able to go there, I had to discard all the western thoughts or

judgments (specially those ones which I learned

from studying 14 years in a French Christian

Catholic nuns school) I decided to go ahead and not to judge anything.

Inside, there were Sadhus and Naga Babas all

over the place. Some of them were wearing orange cloth; some white, others were wearing only a

loincloth, and other were totally nude. Babas had

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long and matted hair. Many of them were having

some sort of drawings on their foreheads. In most of the tents there were at least three or four Sadhus

sitting around a fire talking or praying.

After passing some small tents, we saw a big

tent with nine Naga Babas sitting in semi circle. A lot of people were surrounding them so we went

closer to see what was happening there. We saw

that some people from a television news channel were filming them with big cameras. We came closer

to see what the television cameramen were filming.

There was a Baba with long matted hair sitting in front of a fire with four other Babas on each side.

They were repeating some Mantras; then, the man

who was in the middle, lighted a pipe and started

smoking. He was so slim that he looked as if he were only bone covered with dark skin. After

inhaling deeply, he gave the pipe to the Baba who

was by his right side. He said something and then smoked from the same pipe. I thought that probably

they were doing a kind of ritual. It was already late

and we decided to go straight to the tents where

Swami Naradananda wanted to take us.

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Swami Karnapuri

He took us to a tent where there was a Sadhu sitting on a carpet on the floor. He was wearing an

orange Kurta with a Dhoti and he looked very calm,

peaceful and well mannered. Many people were around him and they were listening carefully to

what he was saying in Hindi.

Swami Naradananda asked if he would

accept to give some time for us and he gladly agreed. He told the group of people who were sitting

around him to give us a place for us to sit. They

moved to the backside of the tent and we sat on the ground around him. He told a boy to bring us water

and sweets. I did not want to take anything because

I was feeling a little dizzy. The mix of the smoke with the marihuana had made me sick after walking part

of the Akhara.

So, I thanked him and told him that I would

not like to have anything but he said that in India, a saying goes like this: “Even if your enemy comes to

you, first you must offer food to him and then, if you

want, fight. So, in India, it is a must to offer and to eat the offerings,” he explained. When the boy

brought the sweet, I had some sweet from my

husband’s plate to please him and I tried to explain that I was not feeling very well that he should kindly

excuse me. He accepted my apologies and finally he

agreed in answering some questions. My husband was making the questions in Hindi while recording

everything on our small tape recorder. The Swami was very kind and answered all our questions.

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I asked: “What do you think is the significance

of the Kumbha Mela?”

Swami Karnapuri answered: “The significance

of Kumbha Mela is that people from distant places

come here and the spectacle they see, is something

unique. People from different countries and from different cast come and live together during the

period of the Kumbha Mela. Our sages have spoken

of the unity of God and unity of mankind. This is fully demonstrated during Kumbha Mela. People in

millions come without any persuasion. This is the

great specialty of this fair and our culture. It

happens after every twelve years gap, due to the story churning of the ocean of milk and the drops of

Amrita, which were carried in a pitcher.

The Amrita drops fell at different places at different times and accordingly the Kumbha Mela is

celebrated in Haridwar, Allahabad, Ujjain and

Nasik. But there are scientific elements to the

Kumbha Mela at Haridwar. River Ganges is known to have very beneficial effects on those who take

bath in the holy water. It is well know that the water

of river Ganges never gets contaminated even if it is kept for a long time. When this river passes through

the mountains, it collects many chemicals, which

are beneficial for the human body. It is proved that if someone drinks the water of the Ganges River, he

does not need to take any medicine. From religious

point of view, as well from the scientific angle too, taking bath in the holy river is considered

auspicious. It is also known that if a person takes

bath in River Ganges for forty days, many of his

ailments are cured.”

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Then I asked him about the reason of the

violence among the different Akharas during the Kumbha Mela. He explained like this: “Different

Akharas are devoted to different gurus and follow

their special teachings. Their differences are not

religious because they follow their guru’s teachings for the same objective. The organizations have their

own institutions and their activities are devoted to

defend the religion and its teachings. The differences and the clashes among different Akharas

demonstrate the spirit of competition for finding the

truth. This is like the churning of the ocean of milk. Without the churning of the ocean of milk, the

Amrita could not have been found. Fighting itself is

not bad. The motive for fighting determines whether

a person is right or wrong. An ordinary killer is taken into court for violating the law. But a fighter

who kills hundreds of people on the enemy side is

decorated. One person that commits only one murder is condemned but another person who kills

hundreds of people is decorated. Violence, if it is

done for the good of the collective welfare, should not be considered sinful. Some devotees that are

new in the Akhara do not behave well and are

responsible for violence. It takes time to cultivate

discipline and attain a higher level of life. It requires dedicated practice of Sadhana in institutions. A

person who is not well trained should be forgiven for

his shortcomings. He should be taught higher values. A real sadhu should not commit any mistake

and if he commits any wrong, he is not a real

sadhu.”

I asked him to tell us more about the Akhara he belonged to. He said: “With the organization the

Akharas, Sri Adi Shankaracharya from Kerala

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started the tradition of devotees who renounced the

world and who devoted themselves exclusively to spiritual activities. Some people renounce even the

cloth and live naked. They are called Naga Baba. All

of them are devotees of the teaching of their gurus

and make sacrifices to their institution. At that time, there was the need to have an army of fighters

but at the present time, it is not necessary.

The main place of our organization is Kashi (Banaras) but we also have our offices in Haridwar

and in Ujjain. We have seventeen people in the

organizing committee who take care of different aspects of the organization. All decisions are taken

only after consulting all members, and sadhus

actively participates in the organization activities. There are women members in the Akharas but they

are not yet members of the organizing committee.”

I asked him what should be done to improve

the Akhara. He replied: “The tradition that has been going on in the Akhara requires some changes. More

emphasis should be given to education.

Ramakrishna Mission is giving a good example in which it is basic the education as well as

participation in the activities of the Ashram. This

example should be followed.”

I asked if the members of the Akhara follow Varnashram Dharma (Caste system)? He said: “After

becoming a member of the Akhara, they belong to

one family irrespective of their past identities. The main relationship is between guru and disciple. The

status is high or low according to the state of

Sadhana and not accordingly to the cast.”

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We took some photographs and thanked him

for his time and cooperation.

We continued walking between long lines of

tents. Almost in every tent, there was the same

scene: Many sadhus sitting around a fire praying or

talking. Then we saw many people standing outside a big tent. We came closer and saw many Sadhus all

over the tent but there was one who was standing

on one leg. Swami Naradananda told us that this sadhu is famous because it is said that he has been

standing on one leg for the last 12 years. I asked

why someone would do that. Swami Naradananda

said that some sadhus do this type of physical penances to obtain God’s grace. Though I did not

understand his answer, I did not want to keep

asking in the crowded area. I just kept quiet and continued my way.

We were following Swami Naradananda

among tents until we entered into a separate area for the Lady Swamis. Most of them were wearing

orange or yellow saris or Kurta Pajamas. Most of the

tents had a lot of women. As the tents were very

small, they looked very crowded. Some of them were talking. Others were praying or meditating near a

fire. Almost at the end of the narrow and dusty line,

Swami Naradananda turned to the right and took us towards a different area. We reached a narrower

lane with tents on both sides.

In the middle of the small lane, we stopped in

a very crowded area. In a medium size tent, there was a dark, long black hair Naga boy with a tiny

loincloth. It was very difficult to see his face due to

the untidy matted long hair. Surrounding him, there were about thirty people. Some of them were trying

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to talk to him, others were just staring at him. He

suddenly turned his face towards me and only then I could see some of his features. It was like finding a

lake in the middle of the jungle. He had a cute,

sweet round face with big sparkling innocent eyes.

One of the ladies who was in the crowd, gave

him a small blue toy car. He took it and started

playing with its tires. He put it on the floor and

pushed the car backward and forward. He looked meticulously at the car and put it back on the floor

and moved it again. Everybody there was smiling

and enjoying his playing. He gave the car back to the lady and he turned his face and saw that my

husband was taking some photos of him. He jumped

towards my husband and started pulling the camera out of my husband’s hands. He wanted to play with

it as he was playing with the toy car. My husband

had the camera hung from his neck and tried to hold it. But the boy was so strong that when he

tried to pull it again, he pulled my husband’s head

along with it. My husband stepped back and pulled

the camera out of the boy’s hands and ran. The boy also ran after my husband to take the camera. My

husband entered inside a tent that was in the back

and the boy followed him. The sadhus who were in that tent jumped and shouted at my husband and

at the boy for running inside the tent. It was so

funny!

The boy pushed my husband into a corner,

grabbed the camera and brought it down towards

himself pulling my husband’s head along with it. He touched and moved its flash up and down. My

husband and the sadhus shouted at him to stop but

he continued touching every button of the camera.

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My husband was scared that he would damage all

the photos we had taken for my book. When the sadhus, who were taking care of the boy, heard the

noise, they called the boy, but he did not pay

attention to them and kept fighting for the camera

with my husband. Mata Pardeshwari, who was also there, took the boy’s hand and in a very sweet way

talked to him in Hindi and while taking his hands,

the boy left the camera and my husband’s head also. She took him out of the tent and told him that

the cameraman was going to take photos of us and

that he should stand still for that. Mata Pardeshwari called me to stand by his side for the photographs.

The boy obeyed and quietly accepted me by his side

also. But he was always staring at the camera with

attention, like a cat staring at a bird to jump on it as soon as it moves.

When I came near him, I felt a tremendous

heat coming from him as though I had come near to a fire. I looked behind him to check if there was

another source of heat around but there was not. As

soon as my husband clicked the camera, the boy jumped towards him again and this time, he also

took the tape recorder in which all the interviews

were recorded. Swami Naradananda called the sadhus who were taking care of the boy, and they

shouted at him. When the boy turned his face to see

the sadhu who was scolding him, my husband

snatched the tape recorder back. But he boy pulled it back. At the same time the sadhu who was

shouting at him came closer to him and scolded

him. Then, the boy left the camera and the recorder and my husband escaped as fast as he could. We all

left because we could not take the risk of loosing the

camera and the tape recorder. When we were far

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enough away and safe from the boy, Swami Naradananda explained the Naga boy story. He said that when the boy was three years old, he made a

vow of never sitting ever. The sadhus that were

taking care of him, made a swing for him to sleep

and he only leans on it for sleeping. Then I understood why the legs of the boy were curved and

his feet were swollen looking abnormally big for his

size and age.

Swami Naradananda explained that some

people in India believe, that these types of vows

made at such a tender age, is the consequence of the penances a sadhu was doing in previous lives.

Therefore they come with that tendency in the next

lifes. Some people support these types of penances.

Others think that the people who support these things are exploiting children for getting money.

By that time, I was feeling worst and with a

headache probably due to the dust, the smoke and the strong smell of marijuana. Between sadhus and

Babas, we walked back to the entrance. It was not

easy at all due to the people trying to come inside

the Akhara. Even after crossing out of the black grill door, there were many people standing outside

pushing their way through.

We came inside the car and I asked Swami Naradananda to go straight to the American Ashram

where we were going to spend the night. It took

about one hour to reach the Ashram due to the

waves of crowds coming into Haridwar. Most of them came walking because cars, buses, and other

vehicles were not allowed. Only special people got

permission to go with cars, and Swami Naradananda was one of them, luckily for us.

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We reached the American Ashram after

sunset. The Ashram was small but it had western bathroom facilities. Swami Narandanand’s disciples

arranged for us the biggest room with attached

bathroom. They put twi portable beds with

mattresses, two small side tables and two plastic chairs. It was good enough for us to spend the

night. They asked us if we wanted dinner but we

had brought our own food from the hotel. So, we thanked them and told them not to be worried about

us.

My husband and I had our dinner in our room. Everything was fine in the American Ashram

except for the noise that was surrounding us. It was

unbearable. Some Ashrams and tents around us

had loud speakers blaring from all directions. There were going on lectures, prayers, Bhajans, Kirtans all

together at the same time. I was very much

disturbed by the noise. If there is something that really affects me, it is the loud sound. At that

moment, I thought how far from God were those

people who needed loud speakers for God to hear them.

According to the Bhagavad-Gita, the Holy

Rituals that are performed as a show are considered

Rajasik and the people who perform them will not receive its fruit. But still some people perform shows

instead of praying. Though I was extremely tired, I

could neither meditate nor sleep. I just lie down on the bed and started thinking of all the experiences I

had that day and what could be waiting for me the

next day. As my husband could not sleep either, we talked for sometime. Around 2:30 A.M. some of the

loud speakers shut up (I supposed they got tired of

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talking and singing so much) but others continued

the whole night. I felt a little relaxed when the near by area’s loud speakers stopped, and some peace

came to me. Finally, I could get some sleep after 3 o’

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Haridwar, April 12, 1998

I could not sleep much because at 5:30 A.M. the neighbor’s loud speakers woke me up. The truth

is that I was not very happy with such a peculiar

wake up call. I was very tired due to the lack of sleep. I did not have any choice but to start my day.

While time was passing, more loud speakers joined

the noisy undirected cacophonic orchestra. I tried to meditate but my attempt was not very successful: 5

minutes was the longest meditation I could do.

When I got ready, I went out of our room and tried to find the way to the kitchen to prepare some

coffee. But most of the people were still sleeping

(including the servants) and I could not find any of

the Swamis. So, I came back to our room and waited until 7 o’clock. The people were still sleeping,

but a servant had just got up and I asked him to

help me to make breakfast. He asked me if we would like him to prepare some Parathe (stuffed yeast less

bread with butter coating) but I said no and thanked

him. I had brought along with me instant oatmeal bags, coffee and powder milk.

I do not know how he understood what I said

(at that time my Hindi was not good) but I got the

coffee and the hot water to make the oatmeal. I took the food to our room and when we were eating,

someone knocked at our door. It was Swami Naradananda. He also was up since early but he had gone to bathe in the Ganges. I asked him to sit

and wait for me to make his breakfast. I went to the

kitchen to prepare cereal and coffee for him. He was

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quite impressed to see how easy breakfast is made

in America. In India, generally speaking, breakfast is very heavy. In north India, the usual breakfast is

Parathe, and in south India idlis or dosas (sort of

yeastless bread made of rice and white lentils) with

Sambar (yellow lentils soup with vegetables). In India, it takes time to make breakfast.

We spent the whole morning talking with

Swami Naradananda. He is a very well educated person and we enjoyed his views about different

spiritual matters. Around 12 o’clock, Penny Mataji,

sent a messenger saying that she would be waiting for us in the Ashram of Braj Wali Mataji. We packed,

got ready and left for the ashram where they were

waiting for us. It was not so far from the American

Ashram and Swami Naradananda took shortcuts to reach there quickly.

The ashram was a big house with a big front

terrace. It was almost impossible to enter because

there were at least 300 foreigners, mostly people from Hare Rama, Hare Krishna group, that had

come to sing Bhajans for Braj Wali Mataji of

Brindaban. As we could not go inside, Swami Naradananda asked one of the helpers of Braj Wali

Mataji to tell her that we were out side. As soon as

both Matajis knew we were out side, they sent

people to make room for us to come inside. They also brought some chairs for us in the terrace to sit

near Braj Wali Mataji. We got the best spot to see

the group of foreigners’ singing Bhajans. Most of the men were having long matted hair and they were

wearing dhotis or bermudas with shirts. The ladies

where wearing a mix of west and east clothing style;

I mean, dhotis with the blouse of a sari on the top

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and bandanas on their head. Some wore bermudas

with long colorful Kurtas. It looked strange to me, (and I suppose it looked stranger for Indians who

were there) because I knew what each cloth was

made for.

When they finished singing Bhajans, we were called inside the house and we stayed separated

from the rest of the people for the Bhandara. First,

we washed our hands, and then sat on the floor in front of a long piece of cloth with empty plates on

the top. Some Indian women brought the food in big

metal buckets and they started serving the food on the metal plates. We got grams (Chana), vegetables,

rice, Raita (yogurt with pieces of cucumber and

tomato) and Khir (sweet dish made of milk, rice and

pieces of dry fruits). Before starting eating, Swami Naradananda blessed the food with Sanskrit prayers

and only then, we started eating.

After lunch, Penny Mataji formally introduced

us to Braj Wali Mataji and told her about the meditation in which I was told to write a book about

Kumbha Mela. After listening very carefully, she

asked us to sit close to her. She asked us some questions. We answered all her questions and when

she was totally convinced of our sincerity, she

accepted to answer the following questions.

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Braj Wali Mataji

As she knew English, I could communicate directly with her. First, I asked her: “When did you

feel the spiritual call for first time?”

She said: “Since childhood, it was there. I used to stay in Mathura and in Brindaban. The

atmosphere there is totally different. I used to stay

with my maternal uncle. He was very devoteed to Lord Krishna. We had a temple with pujari (the

person who performs a sacred ritual called Puja) in

our own house. Ever since I was born, I had this

call. I had always one thing in my mind: I would never go for having family life. I did not and I do not

want the worldly life. First, I decided that I should

stand on my own feet. Then I went to do service, I mean, to teach in a school for girls. In a way, I

became independent. I told my parents: I don’t feel I

should get married and please don’t involve me in all that. Whenever I feel like that, I will tell you

frankly.

Gradually, I studied the scriptures and studied with sadhus and Mahatmas. The urge

became stronger and stronger. I felt that there was a

call from within. I felt that I must dedicate my life to

it and that I must preach Hindu philosophy. I preached philosophy and I tried to bring people

towards the bhakti (devotional) path. The devotional

path is the easiest one can achieve in life. Tapasya (penance) and all that is difficult. But in the

devotional path, you just have to love your Lord,

just as you love your child, just as you love your

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husband, just as you love your parents, just as you

love in this world; similarly, this worldly love has to be diverted. The object of your love should be

changed and nothing else. I try to preach this.”

Then I asked: “What do you think is the importance of women in the spiritual world

nowadays?”

She said: “The most important thing is to

understand that men are Purusha and women are Prakati. They cannot do without each other. But you

are asking about woman preachers?”

“Yes” I confirmed.

She continued: “These days, I believe that

women preachers are more important than men

preachers because women can reach women easily. Women can open the heart to women and it is better

to be on the safe side. You see, there is distortion

everywhere these days; everywhere there are frauds.

I should not say this but it is a fact. What to do? Ladies are very innocent. Our Hindu ladies are quite

innocent and very faithful. They easily believe

anyone and surrender to him. Sometimes, they get entangled with wrong people. For them, women

preachers are very important. The devotional path

means love and women are full of love. This path is very useful and the easiest for women.”

About the Kumbha Mela theme, I asked her

about the importance of the Kumbha Mela.

She said: “Do you know something about Kumbha Mela? Do you know the story of the nectar?

Every 12 years the Amrit comes. But put aside that,

and just think, what is this that attracts crores (one

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crore is equal to 10 millions) of people? In the last

two months more than 2 crores must have come to Haridwar. After all, they came to know that Amrit is

falling on these days. They come all the way from

north, south, east and west; from every corner of

India, people come. It is unity in diversity: different people, many different languages, many religions

and still in such occasion, look at their faith. They

just come to have a dip in the Ganges. Nothing else. Indian culture is the faith in the Lord. From cultural

point of view, it is very important event. From

religious point of view, all the religious leaders, big or small, are here in Haridwar. You can meet

anybody. There are many people here; there are

spiritual vibrations and we get the vibrations. We try to catch them. They have been transmitted among

many people, among crores of people. We are getting

those vibrations. That’s why we say that our Hindu

religion is ancient. It has been since ages and will go for ages. It will never die. You just sit and wonder:

what is the power behind it? Why are so many

people coming? It is very necessary. They come to meet each other.”

I asked: “Do you think that the importance of

the Kumbha Mela is to meet spiritual people?”

She answered: “To meet them and see them!

Even if you don’t go to see them, you get the

vibrations. They are breathing in and they are

breathing out. There are also many Satsangs, Banjans, Kirtans, Ramlila. Everything is going on. It

is an assembly of Mahatmas. Those Mahatmas who

are staying in the Himalayas don’t usually come to the cities. You see these people also (pointing at the

foreigners). They have come from across the Ganges

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where they are staying in the forest. They are

foreigners; some of them may have been doing bad things, but some of them must be having a real

sincere life. You see everything is mixed: good and

bad together. We should see the good points.

I always tell my people that they should try to

have the skill of the ant. Suppose you mix some

sugar with dust, the ant will not look at the dust

but it will take away the particles of sugar, the sweetness. Don’t look at the bad things, take the

good things. One should have that approach.”

At that time, the Bandara finished and all the foreigners thanked Brij Wali Mataji. We also thanked

her for her time and cooperation and said Hari Om

to her.

It was already 3 P.M. and it was very hot. So we decided to go back to Rishikesh and rest in the

hotel. There, we met again Urvashi and Chand who

had also come back from their tour to Mussoorie (a city in the mountains near Rishikesh). We sat on

the terrace and interchanged our experiences while

having a nice cup of chai.

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Rishikesh, April 13, 1998

13 and 14 of April were the most important bathing ceremony days of the Kumbha Mela of 1998.

We could not go to Haridwar because the roads were

closed and not even Swami Naradananda’s car was allowed to go. Besides, the police and the tourist

officers told us that we should not go because they

were expecting problems between the different

Akharas and they could not provide us security. In fact, that morning the Akharas fought bitterly (even

with arms) because all of them wanted to bathe

before the others. Police had to interfere to stop the fight but many people were hurt (no one died). One

of the Akharas wanted to protest by doing fast up to

death but they cooled down later and bathed in the Ganges after noontime.

Rishikesh was also considered to be part of

the Kumbha Mela area. As the Ganges water in

Rishikesh was not polluted, many people came to bathe there. We also bathed in the clear waters of

Rishikesh. We looked for a little private place to

bathe, but privacy in Kumbha Mela time is almost impossible. After looking around for a while, we

found a not so crowed place for bathing. As we were

a little far from the hotel, and no place to change

cloth, I just went inside the river up to my knees and put water on my head and arms. We went back,

and it took almost half an hour to reach the hotel

(walking of course). It also took more than half and hour to wait for the food in the hotel’s restaurant.

The small restaurant was full of foreigners as well as

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Indians guests. The food had a lot of chilies so I ate

only rice and Dahi (yogurt). When we finished our lunch, it was already past 3 P.M. I decided to rest

until 4:30 P.M. when Swami Naradananda was

coming for the interview. When he arrived, my

husband was resting and I did not want to disturb him. I asked Chand for his help with the

translation. Chand agreed and while having tea in

the dining room of the hotel, we started the interview.

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Swami Naradananda

First of all, I asked him to tell us about his

life.

He started talking like this: “I was born on

October 21, 1956 in a village called Sakin near

Jhansi, Uttar Pradesh. Since childhood, I had an

interest in monk life. At the age of 12, I took the permission of my parents to follow Swami Laxchanand as my guru. Under his guidance, I

started my spiritual life and I also studied religion. Then, I studied at Gurukul Kangari University near

Haridwar where there are good facilities for studying

Vedas, philosophy and Sanskrit. In 1980, I passed philosophy and psychology in first division and even

got a Gold Medal decoration. After that, I traveled

for 10 years around India and in 1990, I practiced

Sadhana at Ujjain. Ujjain is a big Tantric center where there is a natural Shivalinga. I kept a vow of

silence for six months and then, I had set up a

Siddha Ashram, in Ujjain itself.

Then I asked: “What is the origin of the

Kumbha Mela?”

He said: “There is a story in the holy

scriptures about the churning of the ocean of milk after which many things were formed. The first

formation was poison, which was drunk by Lord

Shiva. Another formation was the Amrita. For the Amrita, there was a fight between Devas (celestial

beings) and Danavas (devils). In the process, the

Devas grasped the Kumbha (pitcher) in which the

Amrita was kept and while running away from the Danavas, they stopped at Haridwar where some

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drops fell. After Haridwar, they went to Prayag

(Allahabad), Nasik and Ujjain. At all these places some Amrita fell. The god Indra got the form of a

beautiful woman and when she appeared everybody

was astonished to see her beauty. She asked for the

cause of the fight and they told her what was going on. Then, she offered to distribute the Amrita to

both of the groups in a fair way. When they agreed,

she asked them to sit on opposite sides. She brought two pitchers and gave one to each side. The

trick she played was that the pitcher she gave to the

Danavas was containing alcoholic drink. One of the Danavas suspected that a trick was played on them

and he joined the side of the Devas. But the sun

and the moon saw that this Danava joined the

Deva’s group and they told the god Indra. But it was too late. With his divine power, Indra tried to finish

this Danava but as the Danava had drunk the

Amrita, he had become immortal. God Indra could

only divide him in two. Rahu and Ketu are their names and forever they are going around the sun

and the moon in space. They, sometimes, try to

swallow the sun and the moon in revenge for telling god Indra about the trick. This explains the

phenomena of the eclipses according to the

Puranas.”

“How did the human beings get to know about the fight between Devas and Danavas?” I asked.

He replied: “From the holy Hindus scriptures

known as Puranas and also from other holy scriptures”

“Who was the writer of these holy scriptures?”

I asked.

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He said: “It was a saint called Vyasa.”

“Are the Puranas reliable scriptures?” I asked.

He said: “Of course, many events in the world

have been influenced by them. Puranas are very

reliable scriptures provided a person reads them

thoroughly and goes deeply into their meaning. Nowadays people do not take that much interest

due to which the influence of the Puranas is

reducing.”

“When were the Puranas written? What is the

language in which they were written?” I asked.

He replied: “The Puranas were written

hundreds of years back. They were written in Sanskrit language. But, these days there are less

people who know Sanskrit.”

I asked: “Why is the Kumbha Mela held every 12 years?”

He said: It is related to the 12 signs of the

Zodiac and their placement in the Planetary System. The time of the Kumbha Mela is related to the

position of the planet Jupiter (Brahaspati) or Guru

planet. Guru planet is important for attaining

enlightenment. It is so important that it leads to quick spiritual development. Another very important

aspect is the time. For example, during the Kumbha Mela, there are special days for offerings or special prayers which it will have a quick impact and very

soon one can see the results.

Another example of auspicious time is the

time before the sun rises when nature is still and silent. When a person is suffering with pain and can

not sleep during the night, he will sleep two hours

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before sun rise because of the peaceful state of mind

and the peace in the nature. Even the dogs that bark during the night, will go to sleep at that time.

This has been highlighted in the holy books also.

But most of the people utilize this time for sleeping. If you try to learn something, this is the best time

also. During Purnima (full moon) and Amavasya (no

moon), the mind is also peaceful. That’s why people

fast during these days. In fact, these days are very auspicious for meditating and concentrating on

God. It should be that one is so absorbed in God

that one even forgets to eat. But people do just the opposite: they fast to meditate.”

I asked: “What is the best thing to do during

these auspicious hours?”

He said: “The best thing to do is to meditate or

to remember God. Also it is important to have peace

of mind because when you meditate, the mind becomes very open. When the mind is open, your

Sanskaras (disposition) are awakened. The

Sanskaras are strong desires that remain unfulfilled

and they try to be fulfilled. The Sanskaras have deep impact on human beings because they

influence not only the present life but also the next

lives. That’s why during this auspicious time, people should pray and practice Sadhana. But nowadays,

people devote more time to seek material things,

and they don’t devote time for spiritual activities.”

“What is the connection between human beings and the planets?” I asked.

He replied: “When a human being is born, the

planets have specific positions that will influence the events that will take place in his or her life. For

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example, events such as those related to marriage,

education, health, death, etc. Observing the formation of the body structure of a person, his

past, his present and his future aspects of lives can

be known. All this is related to the movements of the planets. The world is considered to be hell because

nobody is totally happy. One way or the other, there

are always problems to deal with.”

I asked: “What is the relationship between bathing in the River Ganges and the Kumbha Mela?”

He replied: “First of all, in India, before doing

prayers and meditation it is a tradition to bathe. Second, while bathing, the Prana (vital energy) of the

person increases and this motivates him or her to

pray. During Kumbha Mela both things are

included: the purity of the heart and the physical cleanliness. When the Prana Shakti (the power of

the vital energy) increases the person becomes more

receptive to spirituality because the Prana Shakti regulates the whole world.”

Then, I asked: “The common people that come

to the Kumbha Mela take bath in the Ganges but

they do not meditate. What is the relevance for them to bathe in the Ganges?”

He said: “The common man take a bathe but

he does not meditate because from bathing only, he tries to attain the purity of heart. Whatever a

common man does, his heart guides it. Once he has

decided in his heart that he is going to be purified by bathing (in the Ganges), he will certainly be.

Even Swamis have said, “Man ke haare haar hee, man ke jiite jiit (if you feel in your heart defeat, you

will actually be defeated; if you feel in your heart

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winning, you will actually win)”. So, when a common

man decides in his heart to attain God, he will. The force in our hearts depends on us for which the

unity of our heart and our mind is important. To

attain this unity of the heart and mind, it is necessary to bring changes in us. This unity is

attainable by many means: meditation, holy rituals,

Tantra. These are the ways that Mahatmas use to

attain this union between heart and mind.”

I asked: “During the Kumbha Mela, do the

common people actually get to meet the saints from

the Himalayas?”

He said: “Usually the saints don’t come

openly. They are dressed with common cloth and

they mix with other people. It is not easy to recognize the great Swamis from the Himalayas.

What is necessary is to have an open mind because

spirituality is very subtle and it is not easily

perceptible. With open mind, people may get benefits of the presence of the Mahatmas during

Kumbha Mela.”

“In your opinion: What is the importance of Kumbha Mela?” I asked

He replied: “Kumbha Mela has great

significance because many yogis and accomplished

saints come to the festivities and enjoy bathing. Many people from different countries are coming

and there is an atmosphere of an international get

together where one can see different religious, cultures and philosophical traditions. People who

come here forget their homes and get swept away in

the flow of consciousness of the Kumbha Mela.”

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“What is the future of Kumbha Mela? Is it

likely to change in the future or it will remain as it is?” I asked.

He said: “Personally, I believe that some

changes should take place because people come

here as if it were an exhibition. There is very little concern for spirituality and moral values. Even

some saints or Mahatmas come basically for

publicity and then return. There should be more interaction between people and the saints for

spiritual enlightenment.”

It was already 7 P.M. and my husband and Urvashi had joined us. We requested Swami Naradananda to stay for dinner. He agreed and

while having our spicy dinner, we discussed many

interesting spiritual matters. Swami Naradananda left after 9 P.M. and we went up to the hotel terrace

to enjoy the night and the nice breeze of the Ganges.

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Rishikesh April14, 1998

Today is a very important bathing ceremony day during Kumbha Mela. Today also is my

husband’s birthday. So, he got up at 4 o’clock in the

morning to bath in the Ganges. In the morning he told me about the practice in India of offering

children to the Ganges in order to get Mother

Ganges protection. The Ganges is considered to be a form of the Divine Mother and the children are

offered to the Ganges to seek Her blessings. He told

me the story when he was offered by his parents

and some near relatives when he was 4 years old. They went from his native village to Garh

Mukteshwar, a relatively small city on the banks of

Ganges.

He said that at that time it took two days and

two nights by bullock carts to reach Garh

Mukteshwar (about 50 kilometers). He remembers that early in the morning, first of all, his head was

shaved. Then, his parents as well as other relatives

went into the river and made a big circle where he was threw inside the water as an offering to the

Mother Ganges. It is believed that if the boy comes

up and remained floating, it means that Mother

Ganges has accepted being the spiritual mother. If the child remains under the water, it means that

nobody can help him. My husband came out of the

water as if Mother Ganges Herself lifted him up. According to the belief, Mother Ganges accepted him

as Her son and She was and is supposed to take

care of him and protect him as his Spiritual Mother!

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So, during such a special day, he wanted to

offer himself to his Mother Ganges again. I did not go with him because it was very cold, and the

Ganges water at that time was freezing. But, he

went and bathed in the early morning cold Ganges waters. Half an hour later, he came back and to my

surprise he was not feeling cold. I asked him how

did he feel after offering himself again to the Mother

Ganges and he said that he was very happy to bathe in the Ganges on his 58th birthday. It was too early

for ordering tea, so we continued talking up to 6

o’clock when we heard voices in the kitchen. We phoned the dining room and the waiter took our

order for tea and toast. After breakfast, we slept up

to 9 o’clock when Chand and Urvashi phoned asking us to go for breakfast with them. We told

them to go ahead without us because we had early

morning breakfast. Then, we got ready to meet Dr. Kutty, a world famous physician and spiritual

accomplished lady.

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Dr. Devaki Kutty

Dr. Devaki Kutty is a very well known physician in India as well as over the world not only

because of her medical skills but also because of her

pious and great service she was doing in Shivananda Ashram in Rishikesh. The first time we

heard about her was in Hamilton, Canada, from our

doctor friends, the Rastogis. Dr. Kutty was their teacher when they studied Medicine in Lucknow

University. She impressed them very much for her

work with the poor people she was doing at

Shivananda Ashram. They said that although she was a very qualified doctor who studied medicine in

London, she never worked to make money. She

dedicated her life to teach and to help the poor women of India. They talked so highly about her

that I wanted to meet her.

According to the Bhagavat Gita, the real yogi (the person who has united with God) is the one

who dedicates himself to do actions for the good of

others. From what I heard about Dr. Kutty, she is

really an accomplished spiritual person and that is the type of person I came to meet.

I was hoping that she was free that morning.

She was so generous, that she agreed immediately to receive us. Her apartment was small but very

cozy. The drawing room had a big window with a

wonderful view of the Ganges. It was simply and nicely furnished. There was also a library with

mostly medical books in it. When we came in, she

gently welcomed us and asked us to sit. There were

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two more people with her: a middle aged gentleman

and a girl in her 20s. She introduced them to us and asked the servant to make coffee for us.

I was very happy that she could speak good

English, so I could ask whatever came to my heart. I asked her to tell us about her life and she started

like this:

“I was born in Konoor, South India. For my

post-graduation I went to London, England. There, I studied Gynecology and Obstetrics. Then, I went to

Scotland for a while. Later, I got a job in Lucknow in

the Medical College and I stayed there. After sometime, I resigned when I found that I did not

have anything else to contribute there.”

“When and why did you come to Rishikesh? How did you know about it?” I asked.

She replied: “I did not know anything about

Rishikesh. Actually, I came here on my way to Badrinath. I wanted to see Badrinath. We did not

know anything about Swami Shivananda (her guru).

We just came to spend a night. At that time, there

was no hotel here and someone told me that I could find residence in Shivananda Ashram. So, I came for

the night here with two friends. Then, I met him

(Swami Shivananda). He prevented me from going to Badrinath. He said: “You stay back and do some

service for the poor; that is more important than

going to Badrinath.” So, I canceled my trip and I stayed.

Then, every year when the college closed, I

used to come here and do a camp for the poor.

That’s how every year my attachment for this place went up. I did about 25 medical camps. I used to

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bring medicines myself and he (Swami Shivananda)

used to give me the infrastructure to see the patients. So, it went on like that, until I was about

to retired. When my father died -he was living with

me-, I did not find much incentive to continue in service. I thought let me do something for the poor; I

have done enough for the colleges: teaching,

research, work, etc. I wrote to Swami Shivananda

and he got me this little apartment here, and I moved. This is the simple life I have and I don’t have

any problem in life.

At that time, Swami Shivananda wanted to build a Hospital. So, we got some money from

contribution of all his disciples and we built this

hospital. There was only a small dispensary before. After building the hospital, I started to work and I

am still working.”

“Do you still work?” I asked.

She replied: “Oh yes, yes. Not in a very high way but we do our job. You should come in the

morning and see our work. We do also surgery; we

got a good (operation) theater to poor patients: some beggars and destitute. We operate very poor people.

Everything in this hospital is free. I like that

atmosphere. Nothing much”.

“You are what in the scriptures is called a

Karmayogini. (A woman who has attained the union

with the Divine and who has dedicated to do service

to humanity) Are not you?” I asked.

She said: “I can only say that I do karma

(actions) but if I am a yogini or not, I don’t know. I

do some reading, of course.”

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“Do you have a lot of devotion?” I asked.

She said: “Well, that’s automatic. That has been always there.”

“What do you think is the importance of the

last Kumbha Mela of the Millennium?”

She answered: “It is a concept coming from inside the person. What people feel is that the river

Ganges is always important for our spiritual culture.

There is a lot of mythology associated that goes with everything in India. But it is during this time that

there is a change in the pattern of the planets. This

is called the zodiac signs change. When the Zodiac signs changes that is the time when it is said that

there is a lot of very divine vibrations in the air. This

is definitely due to the electromagnetic changes that are in all planetary migrations. So, they think that

these particular electromagnetic changes that take

place from Aries to Pisces, the last sign of the Zodiac, charge the electromagnetic fields. So, taking

a dip into the Ganges, at that time, is considered to

be very spiritually elevating. I don’t know myself if it

is true or not because I can’t find that. But this is the concept, and people come blindly. You cannot

reason about that. Since it has been done like that

from times immemorial, you find that is a built up faith. People, with a built up faith, come and when

they get the dip, they feel better and they feel that

they have got all the blessings.

Yet, there is a tradition of getting together that

comes along with all these Sanyasis taking a dip in

the Ganges. This contributes to the sanctity of the

period. They feel satisfied, although scientifically it cannot be explained. It is more a feeling inside and

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that feeling cannot be scientifically explained. They

get it, they have it, but one cannot prove it scientifically.

They pray and they take the name of the Lord

they like. That’s it. After all, we all work most of our time for a material satisfaction more than the

spiritual one, but after coming here, they have a lot

of satisfaction. This fact has been contributing to

build up the Kumbha Mela. You find that the people who came here are the most naive people of the

villages, not the high society people. They are

satisfied and they are happy. What makes you happy is more important. That’s what I feel and

that’s what is there.

Also, the water is very cold and they feel fresh when they bathe. The people of the villages don’t go

for holidays as westerners do; their traveling is

going for pilgrimages; their outing is always a pilgrimage. They go for some temple or another. So,

these types of events give them a chance to come

together, to get out of the daily routine of the

villages where they live. So, they come and chant God’s name and they feel happy. That is the real

thing. Because the concept of holidays, we don’t

have it in our country excepting the rich and modern families. But for the people of the villages,

their only outing is going for pilgrimage. In that way,

this is what the people have contributed to the Kumbha Mela.”

“Being you a very spiritual lady, from a

woman point of view, do you consider that there is

any change in the spiritual world? Are there more women participating than before in the spiritual

world?” I asked.

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She replied: “In India, the spirituality has

been handed over from generation to generation by women and not by men. Women have been more

into it because they have more spirituality, sacrifice

and love put together. Women of India have done more sacrifices and have given more love and, I

don’t want to be mistaken, but men have been

selfish. They have not given anything either to

children or to home. They have been breadwinners since ancient times. Women have never got the

publicity that men have got. But behind every great

man, there was always a great woman, and that woman never came in the light. But women have

been the most contributive for the integrity of the

family, bringing people and even their own children together. They also have more time for praying. They

never did any analysis if there is God or not. It is

just blind faith and they have accepted it as it is. So, you can say that is they (women) who have brought

faith on these things continuously, and in India

particularly, it has been growing up by women and

not by men. May be, there have been some intellectual men who have grown up and down

philosophy. But I am not talking about philosophy, I

am talking about blind faith and actually it is faith which keeps the Kumbha Mela going on. Otherwise,

we are talking about a science called theology, and

not about faith. But it is faith that gives you the benefit, and faith has been brought up by the

women of India, not by men.

There is no change now, but there was in the interim period when the western nations influenced

us and we started to question. I am talking about an

intellectual view; western education made us

question about faith and for many of the questions,

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there were no answers. So, during the interim

period, when people were not intellectuals to understand, and at the same time, the blind faith

was left out, there was a period of doubt. At that

time, India was a small world. Now things have taken shape again. People are more interested.”

“From here, from your apartment, you have a

beautiful view of the Ganges. Rishikesh is also

known for the Ganges. From your perspective, what makes river Ganges so sacred?” I asked.

She replied: “Well, I don’t know. This is an

eternal question and nobody can answer what it is. But there is something in it, this much I can tell

you. In South India to see the Ganges is a dream.

The water you take from here it doesn’t get spoiled. If you keep any water, even tap water, for a long

time in a bottle, you will find a lot of fungus and

many things will come up, but never in Ganges water. There are a lot of researches going on this.

First, they said that it is due to the origin of the

Ganges, in Gomukh because it starts from a glacier,

from a huge glacier. They say that it is so electromagnetic charged that all the water particles

are charged particles. That must be the reason why

the bacteria don’t grow. There are bacteria. Don’t think there are no bacteria. There are bacteria but

the bacteria do not grow much.

The second thing they say is something called bacteriophage. It is like an enzyme, which comes

from nature. That eats the bacteria. They think it is

the herbs in the Himalayas through which this water comes up. The water absorbs certain elements

from the herbs and the bacteria are affected by it.

That is also another theory but nobody has proved

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anything. Plenty of researches have been done

during British times. Nobody could understand what produces this water.

We also have got an old concept: when

someone is about to die, one should take some drops of Ganga water. So, you find in every old

Indian Hindu household, there will always be a

bottle of Ganges water. There are many things that

cannot be explained. It is something that has to be felt and experienced. It cannot be explained.

“Your commentaries are very important

because they are coming from a scientist” I said.

“That’s why I am saying but these experiences

are not transferable. For example, if I put sugar in

your mouth you can say it is sweet but you cannot explain sweetness until you experience it inside.

That is all in religion and in spirituality; religion and

spirituality are pure personal experiences. It is not a transferable experience. The person has to feel it.

That is what I think.”

After the interview finished, we had our cup of

coffee and had a nice chat about spirituality. Then she allowed us to take a photo of her and very

sweetly said goodbye to us.

There were many things that amazed me about her, but what I really admired in her was her

clear holistic view of life. I could feel it as soon as

she looked at me. She saw deep into my being, into my own essence. Usually doctors, see only the

physical part of the human being, especially those

who have studied in the west. Very few physicians have developed intuition. But, Dr. Kutty could see

the reality of a human being at a glance. I mean that

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she could grasp the whole being (body, mind and

soul) while looking at someone and I think that is not easy to acquire. I was very happy to meet such

an extraordinary person like Dr. Kutty.

When we were back in the hotel, I phoned Penny Mataji to ask her to come to the hotel at

teatime and do the interview for the book. She

agreed. I also called another Swami (whose name I

promised to keep in secret) for a meeting at 6 o’clock at the hotel’s restaurant. He also accepted.

After lunch, I had a quick nap and at 5 o’clock

I was in the dining room waiting for Penny Mataji. She arrived at 5 o’ clock sharp and while having tea,

she answered following questions:

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Penny Mataji

“Tell us something about you. Since when are

you living in India?” I asked.

She said: “Well, I came to India for good in 1974. But the first time I came to India was in 1964.

I have been back to Canada for short trips only.

Mainly I have gone out with my guru, and by myself only once.”

I asked; “How many gurus have you had?”

She answered: “I had one guru in Canada and one in India. I lived for 10 years in my first guru’s

Ashram in Toronto. I got married with someone who

was also his disciple. We lived for 3 years there and

then we came to India. When we came, we stayed at the ashram of my first guru in Haridwar. In fact, he

paid us for taking care of it because people were

living illegally on his land. So, it was very convenient for us to stay there. Since he (my first guru) left for

Canada, he has never come back to India. We were

very fortunate of having that opportunity to live in Haridwar at the bank of the Ganges.

I asked: “What happened after? How did you

meet your current guru?”

“Mauni Baba Chandra Swamiji is my guru. His ashram was very near to my first guru’s ashram.

Mauni Baba was born at the Samadhi of Shri Baba

Bhumansha, a famous Udasin Saint who lived around seven hundred years ago. Mauni Baba was

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not an ordinary child. When he was studying at

Dehradun, at the time of India‘s partition, he was overwhelmed by his desire to be a wandering sadhu.

He broke his social ties forever. He spent many

years living in lonely places in Kashmir before

coming to Sapt Sarovar. He lived eleven years in a small island in the Ganges. Then his devotees made

for him an ashram in Haridwar. Swamiji always

spent a lot of his time in complete silence (mauna) and has not spoken at all during the past 16 years!

You see the real Guru is God and He works

everything out for you. It was inevitable that one day

we were going to meet him.”

“For how long did you live in Haridwar?” I

asked.

“For 14 years I lived in Haridwar.” She replied

“How and why did you move to Rishikesh?” I

asked.

She said: “Mauni Baba Chandra Swamiji sold his ashram in Haridwar and bought a land North of

Dehradun. He built a beautiful ashram there. His

ashram has strong discipline and all its member sit

together with Swamiji in meditation four times a day. But I was not going to leave Ganges. I came to

India not to find a guru but to live on the bank of

the Ganges. I love the Ganges and I truly believe that my actual real mother is the Ganges. That is

my experience and my feeling. I get great love and

care from the Ganges in a way my own mother could

never have hoped to do. I am very attached to the Ganges.

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I asked: “How did this love for the Ganges

appear in your life being you born and brought up in Canada?”

She replied: “This is the proof that Karma and

reincarnation exist. Once you accept the fact of

reincarnation, then these are details of different ways that you reincarnate again and again. Living

and dying are facets of a single journey. So,

naturally there are certain things you are going to carry on from one life to another. It is not that this

is death and that’s it. Life and death are facets of a

journey. You keep making new lives by what you do with your body, by your thoughts and by your

personality. You can even see that in a single life.

For example, somebody who does very bad things has a horrible expression on his face; or he is angry

or he is always in a bad mood. This type of people

has a very different face of a person who is always cheerful, pleasant and sweet. When we look at

someone’s face, we can know right away because he

is making his own face. Age is making it (the face)

definitely but also he is making it by his thoughts and by what he is doing.

You have a very long life, much longer than

what you think. You think you can live only 80 years old but you have thousands and thousands of

years and you carry them on. Like you carry on one

day to the next, you carry the next life.

“When one compares India and Canada, one

can see that both of the places are totally different.

You have all the facilities in Canada: good roads, big shopping malls, supermarkets etc. In India life is

different, especially because you are a foreigner and

that makes life tougher here. You have to face that

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every single day. So, why are you choosing to live in

India and not in Canada?” I asked.

She replied: “That is the question of my life!

That is my life. Why am I not living in Canada but in

India? It is certainly the most amazing part of my life but I have an amazing life.”

“That’s why I am interviewing you!” I

remarked.

She continued: “Even my practice of Sadhana (spiritual practice) is a very especial Sadhana. I was

always very uneasy in Canada. From what I can

remember, I didn’t like the North American society. It hurt me. I could understand more and more

because I was getting mature. It really hurt me. I

found it manipulative, exploitive, very non-spiritual life. I found it a very cruel society. I always was in

difficulties because I was very compassionate. I

never fitted at school; I could never get along with

immorality, flippancy and shallowness of my contemporaries. I always was very creative. I was a

painter. When I was 14 years old, I was always

painting in the basement. Lately, I have seen some of those paintings and I was amazed to see them

because they are very profound, deep, and good

paintings. That was in my personal life but as a part of the North American society, I was also hurt.

Immorality hurt me; television ads and violence hurt

me; teachers telling us wrong things; telling always the shallow side of life. The school system lacked

substance. I was very glad to get out of that society.

Now, I will answer the other side of the

question: Why India? One thing is obvious: there is a lot of spirituality and meetings with spiritual

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people. Everyday I have spiritual encounters. In

Canada, I had to search for it. But here, it is all over the place: wonderful spiritual Sadhakas (the people

who do Sadhana), exciting new teachings, doing

Kirtans and Bhajans every day. It is a feast of

spirituality. If I were living in Canada, I would be really searching.

The second reason is that I am a dedicated

Sadhaka and everything in my life goes around my Sadhana. I love India because the practical daily

life, aside of the spiritual encounters, is very

challenging, and I adore that. It keeps you on edge

and alert. In India, you cannot take things for granted. You have to be very alert all the time.

Nothing what you see, nothing what you hear is

what it appears. I love that.

When I went back to Canada, I noticed that

everybody there was as if they were dead. If

something unexpected happened, they did not have a clue what to do, even though everything was very

clear and easy. When I was there, I was often

shocked at people’s reactions. People felt that if the waiter came five minutes late, something was

terribly wrong. I met old friends who were unaware

of themselves. They did not question things; they

were asleep. That’s what I saw in Canada: they were all dead. Their brains were dead. They couldn’t cope

with anything. They had no resourcefulness.

Everything has to be done for them. Once when I meditated, I had a terrifying experience. I saw

myself in a graveyard. I was in a horrible place

surrounded by dead people and dead leaves. I think the dead leaves were people I knew who were just

like them, blown by circumstances. They didn’t

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make any decision for themselves. They said: “I am

angry because my husband is unreasonable.” “I am exhausted because my children puzzled me today.”

“I am cooking this because we don’t have enough

money for something else.” There is always “I am doing this because.” There is always an external

cause. So, they are just leaves. They are being blown

around. They don’t have sense of Self. They have no

a sense of what they are doing.

When you live in an easy country, in an easy

family and in an easy society, you may never

discover what it means to be a human being. Why are you going to stress yourself? For me, it is a

blessing when someone comes to India, for whatever

reason. India usually shakes up the mind of the people. India often scares them. Sometimes,

something awful happens. I feel this is the greatest

grace. Terrible things have happened to me in India. It would have been much easier to cope with them

or to solve them if they could have happened in

Canada. In India, it was very difficult.

I adore that awakening! That’s what people talk about when they come to India, on way or the

other: awakening. In fact, some people cannot cope

with the awakening. My husband and I had had to send back three people to their home countries

because they went almost crazy. As soon as they

reached home, everything settled down and they were fine. They just got awakened in India.

I also was like so many others. I came to India

three times and I hated it. I thought: I have got to get out of here; this is just awful and I cannot stand

this a minute longer! Especially, the time I came for

the Kumbha Mela. I thought: I am going to die here

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if I stay a day more. So, I rushed back to Delhi and I

managed to get my reservation changed. I was supposed to be in India for one month, and I wanted

to go back after ten days. But, as soon as I got off

the plane in Toronto, within the first 3 hours, after seeing friends and all, I thought: Oh my God! What I

have done! I wept and wept because I said to myself:

“You blew it! You had the opportunity of facing the

challenges in India and you blew it. You couldn’t face it.” In my heart I knew. I knew that I was given

an opportunity but I was not ready. That happened

three times. But slowly, doing my Sadhana in Canada, I became more self-aware.

But this is not the only reason I choose to live

in India. It has to be a tremendous attachment, commitment or experiences from other lives that

makes me love India. Here in India, I got cancer and

I thought I was not going to live. But, I also felt a sort of a flow that was pushing me to stay here. It

might be because of a tremendous commitment to

my Sadhana. The tremendous fire inside me to be

enlightened and to know who I am. That is a strong force. Also there is a lot of attachment for my past

life in India. Once my guru told me that in my very

last life, I was in India. So you have a combination of things: my intellectual thinking that it is good to

be in a challenging place, the attachment from past

life, and plus, the wish to be fired up with the spiritual fire of enlightenment.

I have been on the razor’s edge of life and

death many times, and I am extremely grateful to

God. You see, now I am about to cry. What is greater than being on the razor’s edge! Face it. What

a sad life, the life that has never been challenged!

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What makes it different than a goat or a chicken?

Nothing. Most people get born into their bodies and then pass out of them. There is nothing significant

to just be in a body and then just be in another one.

How grateful one has to feel for being forced into tremendous challenges in which one thinks that one

is never going to live. May be one would not survive,

but at least one dies alert. One may die trying but

how wonderful it is if one has success. I am extremely grateful to India because she challenges

me over and over again.

All the time, I have a very strong sensation that every single thing that happens to me, it is

exactly what God wants to happen to me. So, it is

not really guts; it is a sort of surrendering, of being opened to God and of doing the right thing. On the

other hand, I really love the Ganges because she is

my mother and when I am near her, I feel very safe, happy, and secure. So, it is not taking guts to stay

in my house in India. It is that I want to be there

and not in any other place in the world. It is just the

opposite: it takes guts to go out of my house and I took guts when I went to Canada. I stayed there for

four months and I thought I was going to die. When

I reached Delhi, involuntarily I kissed the floor at Delhi’s airport. Then I knew how stressed I was in

Canada, and how glad I was to be back in India!

I really have a sense of security when I am near the Ganges. For me, it is a delight to look at

her. I could sit the whole day looking at the water. I

am completely happy and I don’t need anything more. So, what could be a greater grace? What

could be greater to anyone?

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“What do you think is the importance of this

Kumbha Mela? From your perspective, what is the spiritual relevance of the last Kumbha Mela of the

millennium?” I asked.

“I have a very short answer for that question.

For me it is very clear. The Kumbha Mela used to have a good reason for being and that reason was

that once in every three years all the Babas,

Mahatmas, Swamis, Fakirs, Sufis, all the spiritual people, would get together and exchange views with

each other. It was literally a big sort of meeting for

them: sitting together under trees and talking to

each other; having debates and discussions; exchanging gossips. Having great meetings with

friends once again because they normally wandered

here and there involved in their own path. So, this used to be a grand meeting of spiritual men. That

was the original practical meaning and practical

reason for the Kumbha Mela.

There is the mythological reason, there is an

astrological reason, but the practicality of this was

that it was a good place and a good time to meet. At

that time, there were no books, no trains, no television and how these spiritual people were going

to have debates? They must have agreed to meet

somewhere. Otherwise, there would not have been exchange of spiritual ideas nor spiritual

discussions.”

“Why do think that people come to the Kumbha Mela?” I asked.

She said: “The reason why so many people

come to the Kumbha Mela is because there is not

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just one thing going on. There are many things

going on.

People come because if they bathe at Har Ki Pairi (the main place of bathing in Haridwar) at a

specific time, according to astrology and mythology,

the veil that separates the world of the humans, and the world of the gods, is at its very thinnest, or

perhaps is totally opened. So, the Ganges water at

that spot becomes imbued suddenly with the blessing of the energy of the world of the gods. The

other thing is that many thousands of spiritual

people are at that place. So, people think, “Oh, this is wonderful.” Obviously, this makes something very

interesting. Besides, they are taking a dip in the

Ganges. People of India believe that Ganges is not just an ordinary river. It is a holy river with spiritual

energy from Lord Shiva. So, the water is not

ordinary water; it is a scientific fact also. It is not

just a fact of faith. It is a scientific fact. It combines a lot of things together and that’s why a lot of people

come. Right?”

“Are people coming for spiritual help?” I asked.

She replied: “They come for help. The spiritual

people come to find spiritual help; the sick people are coming because they think they are going to be

healed. If they need a job, they think they are going

to get it; if they want to be purified, the spiritual help for purification will be there, certainly.

“How many Kumbha Mela have you

attended?” I asked.

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She replied: “I have attended three Kumbha Mela: two at Haridwar and one at Ujjain. I have been here for 25 years!”

I asked “Are there any common

characteristics between the Kumbha Mela at

Haridwar and the one at Ujjain?”

She replied: “No. They are quite different. The

Kumbha Mela at Haridwar is at the foothill of the

Himalayan Mountains. The Ujjain is in the plains. They are in different states and the people of

Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh are different. It

is another culture. Har Ki Pairi at Haridwar is a

place where people feel that God was present there. In Ujjain, there is one of the twelve natural

Shivalinga in India. It is called the Maha Kaal. People believe that this Shivalinga has very profound powers and they believe that it has a

profound influence in their lives. It is something to

see because all the days, even highest officers, with great reverence go to have Darshan (to see) of that

Maha Kaal.

“Is the Shivalinga naturally made?” I asked

“Yes.” She answered.

“Is it a stone?” I asked.

She replied: “Yes, it is a stone. It is said that

Shiva Himself made it. That is what a natural Shivalinga is. It is a very powerful and interesting

place. It is more ancient than Haridwar and it has a

lot of old ruins. Krishna studied there. He was sent

from Brindaban to study in Ujjain.”

I asked: “Are you a self-contented person?”

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She replied: “Oh yes! I am a very self-

contented human being. I am a self-contented person from within, from gaining knowledge and

from surrendering to life as a manifestation of God.

That’s how I feel. I am a very lucky person filled with gratitude. This is what my guru has given me, what

living in India has given me and by the grace of the

Lord, what my Mother Ganges has given me.

The meeting finished almost at 6:00 P.M. We kept talking until the other person who came for the

interview arrived. I introduced them and took the

opportunity for inviting both of them to come for dinner with us. She left confirming that she would

be back at 8 o’clock for dinner.

I offered tea or something to drink to Swamiji but he did not accept. He just wanted to do the

interview and leave quickly because he had to go

somewhere after 6:30. He also confirmed joining us for dinner.

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Swami X

Swami X requested not to mention his name. Therefore, only general information about his life

will be given.

Swamiji before taking the vows of Sanyas, was a very prosperous Indian businessman in

Canada. He always was attracted by the spiritual

life. One day, he decided to renounce everything and

come back to India to follow the Sanyasi life. After wandering some years in different parts of India, he

finally has settled down in a very small cottage in

Rishikesh where he is practicing Sadhana.

I asked him: “Is this the first Kumbha Mela

you are visiting?”

He replied: “No. I came in the Kumbha Mela of

1950 when I was a student in the college and a group came as volunteers Scouts at university level.

We came as part of the organization of the Kumbha Mela and one of the incidents I remember is that they asked us to perform duty for 48 hours

continuously. I guess it was part of Scouting

development because they used to take you through all kinds of exercises.”

I said: “That sounds really tough!”

He said: “Well, it seems like that for an

outsider. But when you are involved, you are very excited.”

I asked “Did you have the opportunity to meet

any Swami or any spiritual person at that time?”

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He said: “As a matter of fact, at that time I

didn’t know anything about spirituality. I came with a group from the college as Scouts. I didn’t come as

a spiritual seeker.”

I asked: “Do you find any difference between this Kumbha Mela and the Kumbha Mela of 1950?

He said: “To be quite honest, I neither have

many memories about 50’s Kumbha Mela nor the

awareness of spirituality was there at that time. But now I am seeing so many people with so much

devotion, carrying their baggage on their heads,

walking long distances under the sun. Also you see shopkeepers offering drinks, food and shelter. You

really feel blissful seeing all these things, that

humanity is able to come up to help people.”

I asked: “I understood that you lived for

sometime in Canada although you were born and

brought up in India. How and why did you move

there?”

He said: “It is a matter of opportunity. First, I

moved from India to England. I lived there for 14

years. Then, there were better prospects in Canada, and I moved there.”

I asked: “Why did you to come back to India?”

We are talking about different periods of life. Going back 30 years, the objective of life at that time

was different to the objective of life now. Having

spent my whole working life in England and in Canada, after retirement, India is the best place to

live.”

I asked him: “How did you decide to move to

Rishikesh? What has Rishikesh offered to you that made you come here?”

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He said: There are many aspects. The physical

aspect is that Rishikesh is a holy city where the Ganges River flows through it. Somehow, there has

been the idea in the back of the mind, that after

retirement, I want to live at the bank of the Ganges. By God’s grace, I am having the opportunity to live

here.”

I asked: “You just moved to your own place.

How do you feel living alone after living in an Ashram?

He replied: “When I came here, I came with

the idea of devoting myself fully to practice Sadhana. For that purpose, the objective was not to

get too much involved in organizing personal affairs

or cooking. So, the idea was to find a place in an Ashram where the mind is totally free from all those

worries. But somehow, by the grace of the Lord, it

did not work out. As a result, I found my own place,

where I live independently without being worried to be moved out from there.”

I asked: “It is important to have privacy and

space for yourself, isn’t it?”

He said: “Yes, it is very important. Also to

practice Sadhana, it is important that the place

should not be very big but small. You don’t want to accommodate people around you. You want to

devote yourself entirely for Self-realization.

I asked him: “How are you feeling coming

back to your own roots, I mean, living back in India?”

He replied: “I never participated into the

system of bribery and mismanagement. I was quite happy when I lived outside. The environment abroad

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was going very well with my own temperament. The

question of coming back home is deeply related to spirituality because you need a place where you can

contemplate and read the scriptures. In that sense,

Rishikesh suits my purpose.”

I was already 6:20 P.M. and Swamiji had to

leave. He accepted the invitation for diner and said

that he will be at 8 o’ clock.

When Swamiji left, I went up to my room to bathe and to get ready for receiving fifteen friends

that we invited for dinner. We put some chairs and

one big dining table on the terrace of the hotel. We ordered soft drinks, Lassi (drink made of yogurt),

juice, and food from the Hotel’s restaurant. It was

simple but the idea was to get together. Most of

them were spiritual seekers and sadhus who had come to the Kumbha Mela. We had the opportunity

of talking about interesting themes and even of

sharing experiences with people from different part of the world.

After having dinner and after singing happy

birthday to my husband in many languages, we tasted Rishikesh’s bakeries special dish: eggless

cake. Our guests left around 10:30 P.M.

I was very happy because it was a very good

day for us. With today’s meetings, I had made seven interviews. I wanted two more to make nine. I just

had to find two more people to achieve my task. As I

usually do, I put my problem in God’s hands and told Him that He should choose the other two people

for me to interview. I was sure He would choose the

right people and that was exactly what happened.

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Rishikesh April 15, 1998

I got up after 8 A.M. I was tired and decided to have breakfast in the room. My husband went to

have breakfast in the dining room with Chand and

Urvashi. When they came up, they told me that the owner of the hotel approached them and told them

that he understood that I was interviewing

spiritually accomplished people for a book. He said that Gomukh Mataji (Gomukh is the glacier where

the Ganges is born and it is considered to be a very

sacred place) was a real saint from the Himalayas

and that I should not leave her out of my book. Gomukh Mataji was supposed to come and stay

overnight in the same hotel we were staying. She

was on her way back to Gomukh from Haridwar. The owner of the hotel also told them that she was

very well known in the whole Himalayan area not

only because of her accomplishments in the spiritual field but also because of the blessings she

got from God. As soon as I listened that, I got ready

and went down to talk to the owner of the hotel.

The owner of the hotel was a typical Indian

middle age man. He was well dressed and was

wearing glasses. He stood up to welcoming us

putting his hands together and speaking English. For his manners, could guess that he was not from

Rishikesh. Latter I corroborated that it was true

because during the conversation he said he was from Mumbay (the new name of Bombay). After

sitting, he offered tea which we accepted. He started

the conversation like this: “As I was saying to your

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husband, tonight a great saint from the Himalayas

called Gomukh Mataji is going to overnight in this hotel. She lives in Gomukh all around the year (even

in winter time when the temperature goes far below

0 degrees). She lives there without any heating

system. She only uses blankets for warming herself and she usually keeps food provisions for the

winter. Eight years ago, some devotees took her to

Haridwar for medical check up. When the doctors saw her blood test, they said that she should stop

living in Gomukh and that she should come down to

a lower area because her blood was as thick as the blood of an animal. They also said that if she

continued living there, she would die very soon. She

answered back to them saying that if she has to die, she would die only in Gomukh and nowhere else.

Doctors insisted but she refused to leave Gomukh.

That happened eight years ago and she was still

living in Gomukh and her health is very good.”

He also said that she was very well known

among the pilgrims who go to Gomukh for very valid

reasons. The first one is that she takes good care of all the pilgrims who goes to her Ashram (the only

one there. The second one is that when the pilgrims

reached Gomukh after trekking 17 kilometers from Gangotri, she is always waiting for them even with

the right number of plates for the quantity of people

that are coming as she would already know how

many people are coming for dinner! We are talking about a very remote area where phone (and I think

that even electricity) is not available.

I inquired about her with other people and they gave similar references. I was very happy

because I was looking for people like her and I felt

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again the hand of God guiding me. As she was

supposed to come in the evening, I had the whole day to get only one more interview for the book. I

was sure that I was going to find him or her very

soon.

Chand, Urvashi, my husband and I went to

our house from where we phoned Penny Mataji. She

asked us to come to her house but as cars still were

not allowed in the city, we agreed to walk up to the starting point of Rishikesh. From there, Bhim Singh

(Swami Narandanand's brother) would pick us up in

Mataji’s car.

When we reached Penny Mataji’s ashram, we

met Swami Naradananda and all his disciples

including Mata Pardeshwari. Again I asked her to

accept the interview but she was feeling shy. So, I asked her to write two questions: the first one was

the reason why she decided to become a Sanyasini (a lady who has taken the ascetic life) being so young and what she thinks about the Kumbha Mela.

When I mentioned writing instead of talking, she

agreed. She liked the idea and accepted to give it to

me in the evening. I was very happy that she agreed to be part of the book because it is not common to

find a young pretty girl who has renounced the

worldly affairs to become an ascetic, giving up the chance to get married and to have children. She

must have had a good reason.

Swami Naradananda and his disciples were going to visit another ashram. But Penny Mataji had

to go to Ganga Kinare Hotel to check everything for

a Kirtan program she was organizing for that

evening. We thought that it was a good idea to have lunch there and we invited Penny Mataji to join us

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for lunch. Mataji agreed and the five of us Chand,

Urvashi, Penny Mataji, my husband and I went walking up to the hotel.

The view of the Ganges and of the Rajaji Park

from the Ganga Kinare Hotel is really amazing. For

the Kumbha Mela occasion, the Hotel made a nice place to bathe in the Ganges and even put a tent for

changing clothes. As the day was very sunny, I felt

like bathing and I asked if anybody of the group were feeling like bathing too. None of them wanted,

but I convinced my husband to bathe with me. So,

we went down stairs and put our bag with clean clothes (that by chance we had brought along with

us thinking that we might feel like bathing) in the

tent and went (with our Indian cloths on, of course)

to have a dip in the Ganges. It was not very easy because there were a lot of rocks. We went in the

river as much as we could, keeping enough distance

from the strong current. We enjoyed it very much.

One feels very good while and after bathing in

the Ganges. First of all, one feels very light and

energetic (like after having a good massage). Also, the hair and the skin become so soft and shiny

without necessity of shampoos, soaps or creams.

The most amazing fact is that the energetic feeling remains the whole day. I am not sure if my sins

were washed away, but the feeling of bathing in the

Ganges was great.

After bathing, we joined our friends for lunch. We had discussions about spiritual matters while

enjoying a nice vegetarian meal. Bhim Singh picked

us up and dropped us back to our hotel as close as he could. We reached the hotel around 5 P.M. We

changed our cloth and went back to Ganga Kinare

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Hotel where Mr. Ajit Singh, a well-known musician

from Dehradun gave a concert with a very ancient instrument called Vichitra. Then, Penny Mataji’s

group sang Kirtans. When the program finished,

Mata Pardeshwari gave me her written interview.

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Mata Pardeshwari

This is the translation of what she wrote:

I am 27 years old. I like to sing Kirtans and

Bhajans. I also like to give Satsang, Pravachan, etc.

I live and practice my Sadhana in the Swami Naradananda Ashram in Ujjain.

Question: Why did you take Sanyas?

Answer: The saints say that people with

attachment do not attain Lord Shiva (Pardeshwar). Only people without attachment can attain Him.

One has to loose something to attain something

great that only fortunate people can get. For example: There was a King who announced that

whoever came to see him first, he would be his.

Meanwhile, he built for his subjects hotels, clubs,

buildings, shops, gardens, houses, beautiful arrangements for transportation and guesthouses.

All the people proceeded to go to see the King but

when they saw on the way that so many shops, buildings, hotels, cars, beautiful cloth and precious

jewelry were available free, they forgot to see the

King.

But there was a child who considered all this

as useless and he remembered that he had to go to

see the King. If he could reach there before everybody else, the King would be very pleased.

Some wicked people tried to stop the child to go to

see the King but without caring for anyone, he

reached the cottage of the King. The King was surprised that none of the grown up people had

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come so far but a child had come leaving everything

behind. Does not the child need worldly things? The King told the child: “Whatever you want I will give

you but you go back to your house.” However, the

child was stubborn and he said: “Your Majesty, you had said that whosever comes to see you, he will

become yours. I will not go back and I will stay in

this cottage because I need you”. Seeing the strong

determination of the child, the King took the form of Lord Shiva and embraced the child and adopted

him. After the adoption of the child by the Lord

Shiva, the child attained the Lord Shiva as well as all the worldly things. In the same way, to attain

Lord Shiva one has to have strong determination

and sacrifice everything like the child did. Leaving all material things aside and without caring for

opponents, one should proceed to meet the King. In

this way one gets the Lord as well as the world because the whole world is the play of Lord Shiva

Who can be seen in every country and in every

place.

Question: What do you think is the importance of the Kumbha Mela?

Answer: If the devotion is authentic, one can

see the glory of God everywhere. Without the blessing of God, no one can come to Kumbha Mela.

Only those who have the grace of the Lord, can

come to participate in the Kumbha Mela. At Kumbha Mela, there are showers of Amrita in the form of love. According to the Puranas, God distributed

Amrita after churning the ocean between the Gods

and demons. But in this Kumbha Mela, everyone is distributing the Amrita of love to each other,

whether he is native or a foreigner, a Sanyasi or a

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detached household person, Babas, yogis, or worldly

people. Everybody recites through his heart the sound of Lord Shiva, of Lord Krishna or Lord Ram.

In their melodious simple and sweet voice resides

the voice of Amrita.

In Kumbha Mela, there are two types of bathing. At Har Ki Pairi (main place for bathing in

Haridwar) is the physical bathing in the water of

Ganges, which is like Amrita. In the singing of saintly people, one enjoys the Amrita of love dipping

one’s mind in the Ganges of knowledge and

devotion. This makes one’s heart full like a filled

pool of water.

At the end of her letter, there was a message

for us:

The hearts of both of you are full of love and devotion. May your love remain stable and immortal

and that the goal of your life will be attained.

Your well wisher,

Pardeshwari Mata

When I read the paper, I was very happy that I

asked her to be part of the book. Though she is very

young, she has profound thoughts and great devotion. Both virtues are essential in the path of

Self-realization.

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Saint Subhadra Mata

Around 10:30 P.M., we returned back to our hotel. At that time, cars were allowed to go inside

the city. Luckily, Gomukh Mataji arrived late from

Haridwar. She was just finishing her dinner when we arrived. The owner of the hotel had spoken to her

about us and she agreed to receive us. We went to

see her in her room. We knocked at the door that

was opened and she sweetly smiled. She asked us to sit on two chairs that her helpers had kept for us.

She was sitting on the bed. She was wearing a

sari and a yellow shawl that was covering half of her body. She was slim and her eyes shone from a

distance. I could not guess how old she was but she

looked like a middle age lady. Her strong presence could be felt in the room as if rays of energy were

coming from her. There were in the room also three

of her devotees, two ladies and Swami Swerwanand from Sri Krishna Ashram in Gangotri, District

Uttarkashi.

First of all, we thanked her for giving us some

of her time for the interview. She smiled. My husband explained why I was writing a book about

Kumbha Mela and how we were planning to make it.

She kept smiling and my husband started to ask her questions in Hindi language. She spoke Hindi

though she was born in South India.

We asked her to tell us something about

herself. She said that although she was born in a very warm place in South India, she lives in

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Gomukh, the glacier from were river Ganges is born.

Mataji went to Gomukh 20 years ago and felt as if she was in heaven. Although doctors advised her to

move from there, she decided to stay and die there.

She stays alone there around the year, even during

the severe wintertime when temperatures are below zero. Her daily routine in winter is to sit in

meditation near the fire with a lot of cloth on her. In

summer she keeps herself busy in serving the people that go up to Gomukh for pilgrimage.

We asked her opinion about the Kumbha

Mela. She narrated the story of the churning of the ocean and dropping of Amrita at four places. She

said that the faith of people and the belief on the

purification with the water of river Ganges are great

traditions of India. Washing the sins away is a big factor for people’s devotion to river Ganges. Many

saints come from all over India during Kumbha Mela

and common people have the opportunity to see the saints face to face.

According to Mataji no single path is useful for

everyone: each person can choose the action path,

recitation of mantras or meditation path according to his or her nature.

“There should not be any consumption of food

or drink before meditation. On should be totally devoted and perform service with dedication. Since I

was 4 years old, I have been doing meditation.” She

said.

She also emphasized: “If one can read and

understand the Bhagavat Gita, there is no need of

reading other scriptures.”

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Then, she looked at me deeply and gave me

important advices on my spiritual path for my life. As it was quite late (after midnight), we thanked her

for the guidance, her love, and time she gave to us.

She blessed us and we went to our room.

I was just full of contentment not only for

meeting so many wonderful people but also because

we have accomplished our target of getting good

interviews for the book. The most important part of the book had finished. The rest should be easier

with the grace of the Lord.

Next day Urvashi and Chand left for Delhi. We

stayed one day extra to discuss with the architect

some important points on the construction of our house. Four days later, we went back to Havana to

pack our things to move for good to India.

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Shivaratri, 21 February 2001

To meet spiritually accomplished people, in the multitude of crowds, was like finding pearls in

the ocean of humanity. I don’t think it was by

chance. Indeed, I think that there was a force guiding us that was arranging whatever happened.

After meeting and exchanging ideas with the

spiritual people, one could observe that the goal was the same although the paths of most of them were

different. In the verse 4.11, Canto IV of the

Bhagavad Gita, it says that God accepts people from different paths. Some of them follow the path of

devotion (bhakti), some the path of action (Karma),

others the path knowledge (Gnan) but Self-

realization was the common goal among all of them. Some of those spiritual people have already reached

that objective; some are still on the way but what is

important is that they dedicate their lives and efforts to reach the highest level of Consciousness.

I think another common feature among the

spiritual people is the faith. All of them talked about faith in some way or the other. Also the faith of the

common pilgrim is one of the main reasons why the

Kumbha Mela has been going on since many

centuries. I agree totally with Dr. Kutty when she said that it is faith that motivates people to

participate the Kumbha Mela. Faith is a tremendous

power that makes the pilgrims to overcome all the difficulties that a pilgrimage trip implies. It was

amazing to see people walking even bare feet from

far places just to participate in the Kumbha Mela.

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Many of them were sleeping under the sky and

making their food on the streets but they were still very happy because they were participating in the

Kumbha Mela. That’s one of the characteristics that

make the Festival of Aquarius such a special

occasion.

But transcending all the rituals and

paraphernalia that surrounds the Kumbha Mela, I

think that there is something that, indeed, is very auspicious for the spiritual seeker. Almost three

years have passed since the Kumbha Mela in

Haridwar was celebrated and many changes have taken place for the people who collaborated with

this book. Swami Naradananda, for example, has

traveled to the United Kingdom, Canada and

America where he found many new disciples. Also, he has just made a mercury Shivalinga of 65

kilograms weight for a temple in Bhopal, Madhya

Pradesh state. The mercury Shivalinga will start being worshiped tonight for celebrating the night of

the Lord Shiva (Shivaratri). Mata Pardeshwari also

traveled to London and the United States and got

many followers there. Penny Mataji took the vow of Sanyas given by her guru Mauni Baba Chandra

Swami, last year on 16 of March. That day she

received a new name and now she is known as Ma Chetan Jyoti. Swami Karnapuri was named

secretary of the Jhuna Akhara where he is having

the opportunity to make all the changes he talked

during his interview with us.

One of the changes that have happened

during these years is the passing away of our dear

Dr. Kutty on the year 2000. Up to the last moment she was working and helping in the hospital. Two

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days after having a heart attack, she abandoned her

body. Her physical absence is felt very much among all her disciples, her patients and her friends. The

work she did has its fruits in all her students who

are working not only in India but also around the world. However, her indelible trace is pervading in

the incalculable quantity of women she helped. We

pay homage to a great soul who in her lifetime was

the vivid incarnation of goddess Sarasvati, the goddess of knowledge.

In my life also there were a lot of changes.

From my personal experience, I can say that my life changed radically after participating in the Kumbha Mela. New circumstances that appeared in my life

helped me in my spiritual path. The effect of the auspicious Jupiter position as the planet with

spiritual influence that the astrologers and the

swamis talked about did manifest very quickly in

my case.

First of all, as soon as we came back from the

Kumbha Mela, we moved from Havana to Rishikesh

for good, not to our own house (because it was still under construction) but to Sadhana Mandir Ashram

(or Swami Ram’s Ashram as it is known in

Rishikesh) for almost 6 months. Swami Rama was

considered to be a siddha yogi, (a person who has total control on his mind and body). There, I had the

opportunity to read Swami Rama’s books, which I

consider to be precious gems for the spiritual seeker. In his book, Living with the Himalayan

Maters, he explained in details his experiences while

living in the Himalayan caves with saints. He also

tells about his guru and adopted father, Bengali Baba.

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I had the opportunity to meet Swami Rama a

year before he abandoned his body during my first trip to India. My husband met him in Toronto many

times when Swami Rama was collecting money for

the construction of a medical city in Jolly Grant,

near Rishikesh. His followers in Curacao and in Aruba had told me many stories about his great

powers and their personal experiences with him.

The idea I had about Swami Rama before I met him was of a serious and circumspect sage. I was

expecting to see an elderly, slow-moving Swami

wearing a long maroon kimono as he looked in many of his photographs. But I got a big surprise

when in a raining evening, I met him personally. I

remember that my husband and I were waiting in

the drawing room of his cottage in Jolly Grant for about twenty minutes. Suddenly a very tall,

energetic, fast moving middle-age looking man

entered into the drawing room. He was wearing a maroon jogging suit and white tennis shoes. Some

people were following him with great reverence. My

husband stood up and did Pranam to him. I remained seated because I did not know who that

gentleman was. He looked at me and smiled; then

my husband told me to stand up and to salute

Swami Rama. I was astonished to see the legendary Swami Rama coming in such a simple and casual

way. He was even wearing jogging suit! I stood up

and did Pranam to him but I still could not coordinate the image I had of Swami Rama and the

person I was meeting.

He sat in a chair near my husband and they

talked in Hindi. Still in my astonishment, I just stared at him without saying any word. After

sometime, many people started coming in the

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drawing room and many of them saluted Swami Rama doing Ashtan (lying flat on the floor). Though people were treating him with great respect, there

was no arrogance in his manners. On the contrary,

one could feel love in his eyes. He listened to all

their requests. I suppose he gave them what they asked because the left very happy. When the

Darshan time finished, my husband and I also did

Pranam to him and left. I asked my husband what he talked to Swami Rama. He said that he asked for

Swamiji’s blessings for our marriage and for our

spiritual life; also he asked for the blessing for the

projects my husband was working on (simplification of the Hindi Devanagari script) and the translation

of the Bhagavat Gita into Hindi poetic form. I asked

my husband what the other people wanted. He said that they were asking for admissions, scholarship

etc. for their children in Jolly Grant Medical College.

He also said that Swami Rama granted of their

requests. We also left very happy because we were sure that we have received the blessing of the great

Himalayan yogi.

In fact, his blessings became palpable en we lived in his Ashram in Rishikesh. It is very nicely

located on the bank of the river Ganges and had a

beautiful garden. There, I could go deeper into the yoga and meditation field after Swami Veda Bharti,

disciple of Swami Rama, initiated me into the

Himalayan Tradition of Yoga and Meditation. Swami

Veda’s scholarly approach towards spirituality and his profound insight into mysticism makes him a

very unique Swami. Since a very tender age, he has

been considered to be a great Sanskrit scholar and he has been giving lectures and courses on the

Vedas, the Upanishads, yoga and meditation for the

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last 54 years. Still, he goes around the world

guiding thousands of people on spirituality. Being the spiritual leader of the Swami Rama Ashram, he

stays in Rishikesh during the winter months in

India giving special courses for his disciples from all

over the world. Swami Veda Bharti was honored as Mahamandaleshwar (One of the highest positions in

the Hindu monastic orders) at a ceremony in

Haridwar in 1999. I had the privilege to attend this impressive ceremony.

The people I had the opportunity to meet in

the Swami Rama Ashram were wonderful. I used to share with my brothers and sisters by guru

initiation (guru bai and bhehen) as if we were a real

family. The Ganges at the point of the Ashram has

no waves and it is as smooth as a lake. One of the gates of the Ashram leads to barrage road where we

used to walk every morning and evening enjoying

the gifts of nature of Rishikesh. All kind of colorful birds can be seen flying and swimming. Some of

them showed perfect formation while flying as if

they have been perfectly trained for a parade. It was

common to see also groups of elephants (plying and pouring water with their trunk to the small ones)

Different kinds of deer can also be seen in groups

running around on the white sand beaches of the Rajaji Park.

In the evenings, the clouds and the

Himalayan mountains used to get dressed up in pastel colors to welcome the brightest moon light

that shines not only from the sky but also on the

mirror of the river Ganges. The pilgrim moon also used to come to bathe in the Ganges offering a path

of light on her way.

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But the most amazing characteristic of

Rishikesh is something that, although invisible, it is felt very much. Some people say that it is the

blessings of all the sages that have been getting

enlightened since immemorial times after doing Sadhana and Tapasya in the Rishikesh area. Others

say that it is the Ganges effect because Rishikesh is

the first place where the river Ganges slows down

after the strength and the speed it has in the mountains. The fact is that Rishikesh has such a

special “Shakti” (energy) that makes it unique.

Our house is not so far from Swami Rama Ashram and the view is also very beautiful. We

finally moved to our own house in September 1999.

The house is surrounded by one of the biggest

Ashrams in Rishikesh called Shri Jairam Annakshetra (place for food) guided by Shri Brahmachari Devendra Swaroop. In the Ashram,

among other activities, there is a Sanskrit school and the students chant mantras and perform holy

rituals every day. The Ashram environment gives a

holy atmosphere to my house and to my life also. It

is the perfect environment for practicing yoga and meditation.

The peace that one feels after meditating gives

the calmness required for improving one’s life as well as for dealing with daily problems far better. As

a western brought up person who has been

practicing meditation for many years, I can see clearly the main differences between the

contemporary western way and the meditative way

of living. The western cultures and countries

emphasize the concentration of our being on the outside world leaving very little time and energy for

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discovering our own inner world. The fast

communication technologies provides to man almost instantly the information of what is happening in a

small town on the other side of the world, yet he is

not able to know why he is feeling lonely, stressed, or depressed. The western man is very close to the

events of the world but is very far from his own

inner reality. The daily introspection of meditation is

the balance that maintains both inner and outer realities in equilibrium. It is the time that we

dedicate to ourselves to see what is happening

inside us. The time given for meditation may worth years of happiness, good health and harmony within

ourselves and with the people that surround us.

Based on my own personal experience, I can say that by practicing meditation in a profound way,

I could understand more my problems, my

weakness, my skills, and my whole reality. It has been a fascinating discovery in which the greatest

treasure ever found was the endless peace and

infinite love that resides in the Self. This treasure

brought a big change in my existence. The jewel of this knowledge gave me the light of intuition; the

gold of Consciousness gave me awareness and

humility, and the white diamond of love took away my loneliness and gave me my Eternal Companion.

The path is not easy but the rewards are worth the

endeavor. When we walk on a plain path, it is easy to go on; when we go downwards, it is easier and

faster, but when we want to go to the top of the

mountain to look down at the world, we have to climb hard with all our energy and with a strong will

to reach the heights. That applies to life also.

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There has been a great change in my life and I

am happy about it. My life passes quietly among the activities of writing, reading the sacred books and

practicing yoga and meditation. I live in the lap of a

beautiful Ashram on the bank of the Ganges and in

the foothills of the Himalayas. With the blessings of God, the company of my husband, and the guidance

of my guru, I overcame all the troubles and difficult

situations that I have come across. Good as well as bad times were there, but I always felt the loving

hands of God, protecting and guiding me. That’s

why I feel, indeed, that some drops of the Amrita fell from the holy Kumbha into my life.

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Glossary

Adi Guru Shankaracharya: Great saint and organizer of the Hindu religion.

Akharas: Hindu religious institutions.

Amavasya: No moon.

Amrita: Divine nectar that gives immortality.

Arti: Holy ritual in which flowers, incense, and lights

are offered to God.

Ashram: Place dedicated to religious activities or spiritual.

Avatar: an incarnation of God.

Banjans: Devotional songs.

Bhagirathi: Another name of the River Ganges

Brahaspati: Jupiter.

Brahmachari: The person who has made the vow of

celibacy.

Brahmacharya: Celibacy.

Chai: India tea made with milk and spices.

Coolies: Suitcase and baggage carriers at the railway

station.

Crores: One crore is equal to 10 millions.

Dakshan: To see. To have a vision.

Danavas: Devils.

Devas: Celestial beings.

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Dhotis: Two to five meters of cloth that men in India

wear.

Dosas: Sort of yeastless bread made of rice and

white lentils.

Ghat: Main place for bathing on the bank of a sacred

river.

Gran Sabana: Great Sabana. First part of the world

that emerged from the ocean.

Guru bhai: Brother by the guru’s initiation.

Guru bhehen: Sister by guru initiation.

Hari Om: Salutation. Hari is a name of Lord Vishnu

and Om is the primordial sound.

Idlis: A south India preparation made with rice and white lentils.

Japa: Repetition of a mantra.

Kajal: Black eye pencil.

Karma: Action.

Karmayogini A woman who has attained union with

the Divine and is dedicated to do service to

humanity.

Kirtans: Repetition of one of the name of God

accompanied with music.

Kurtas: Long and loose shirt. Upper part of the

Salvar Kurta.

Lassi: Drink made of yogurt.

Lord Shiva: Consciousness.

Lord Vishnu: God in the form that keeps the universe in harmony.

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Maha Kumbha Mela: The great Festival of Aquarius.

Mahabharata: Longest and oldest epic.

Mahadev: Lord Shiva.

Mahamandaleshwar: One of the highest positions in

the Hindu monastic orders.

Mahasamadhi: Place where a saint’s body or ashes are kept.

Mahatmas: Great souls. People who have attained

enlightenment.

Maheshwara: Lord Shiva.

Mala: Hindu rosary.

Mantra: prayer.

Mataji: Mother.

Mesetas: Spanish name for the table-top shape

mountains.

Moksha: Liberation from the cycle of death and

reincarnation.

Naga Babas: A type of ascetics who wear no clothes.

Parathe: Stuffed yeastless bread

Pardeshwar: Lord of mercury who is also Lord

Shiva.

Prakiti: Nature projected as female power (shakti)

Prana Shakti: The power of the vital energy

Prana; Vital energy

Pranam: Salutation

Pravachan: Religious or spiritual discourse.

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Puja: Holy ritual

Pujari: The person who performs a Puja

Pundits: Hindu priests

Puranas: Old sacred Indian books

Purnima: Full moon

Purusha: Non Manifested power projected as male force.

Ram Lila: the life of Ram, an Avatar of Lord Vishnu.

Rudraksha: Seed that has different shapes or faces

when it is developed.

Sadhaka: The person who does spiritual practices to

attain enlightenment.

Sadhana: Spiritual practice.

Sadhus: Ascetics. Monks.

Salvar Kurta: Typical Indian women’s cloths

consisting of long pajamas and long shirt.

Sambar: Yellow lentils soup with vegetables.

Sanskaras: Strong desires that remain unfulfilled

and thus try to be fulfilled in future births.

Sanyasini: A women who has taken the monastic

vows.

Sati: Wife of Shiva.

Satsangs: Talks about spirituality. It’s literal

meaning is “In company of the Truth”.

Shakti: Energy. Power.

Shiva: In the Hindu trinity, Lord of destruction.

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Shivalinga: Force of creation. Symbol representing

Lord Shiva.

Siddha Ashram: Place dedicated to spiritual

activities for accomplished yogis.

Swamis: Monks that belongs to a certain Hindu

order. Ascetics.

Tantra: Thread or uniting force in esoteric rituals.

Tepuyes: Sort of mountains with a plane square top

that looks like a table.

Upanishads: Sacred spiritual books.

Uttar Pradesh: One of the northern states of India.

Vedas: Four sacred books in which all the

knowledge has been kept since times immemorial.

Vichitra: Very ancient musical instrument.

Yagya: Holy ritual with fire.

Yogi: The person who has united with God.