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ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION PLANNING. LSEGG307A 9080F. Lesson Content. Describe the acceptable methods for determining the maximum demand on an installation’s consumer’s mains. Calculate the maximum demand for the consumer's mains for given installations up to 400 A per phase. MD. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION PLANNING

LSEGG307A9080F

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• Describe the acceptable methods for determining the maximum demand on an installation’s consumer’s mains.

• Calculate the maximum demand for the consumer's mains for given installations up to 400 A per phase.

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What is What is Maximum Demand?Maximum Demand?

Is the “Maximum continuous current that flows in a circuit for a period of 15 minutes or longer”

AS/NZS 30001.6.3

Why not just put a cable size in, that will handle the current rating for the maximum current rating

of the appliance?

MD

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WWhat is Maximum Demand?hat is Maximum Demand?Domestic stove rated at 5kW

Max current = 22A

Min cable size = 6mm2

By calculation

Max current = 16A

AS/NZS 3000Table C4

Min cable size = 2.5mm2

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Calculation Assessment Measurement Limitation

AS/NZS 30002.2.2.

“If the measured current is larger than any of the listed methods, then the MD is considered the

measured value”

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“… may be the ….sum of the current settings of the circuit breakers protecting the

associated final sub-circuits….”

AS/NZS 3000Clause 2.2.2 (d)

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10AL2

16AP1

16AP2

32AStove

10AL1

MD = ?

10+10+16+16+32 =84 Amps

By Calculation

36 Amps

Domestic House

10mm2 2.5mm2

Most su

pply authorit

ies specif

y a minim

um

mains cable si

ze of 1

6 mm

2

20 metres 46 metres

16mm2

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Domestic Non-domestic Non- domestic Energy Demand

Table C1Table C2

Table C3

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & Aii

Batten holder =

1 light point

25 lighting points = 1 -20 =

3 A

21 -25 =

2 A

5 A

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & AiiChandelier or Multi-globe

fitting =Number of points =

= 3 points

Number of globes

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & AiiPower points above 2.3 m for

lighting =1 point

Note “e”

Exhaust fans below 150W =

1 point

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & AiiTrack lights

=Every metre =

Note “d”2 points

2 x 2.6 metres track light =

5 points per track =

10 points

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & AiiIXL Tastics, Heat lamps

etc

Not regarded as “Lighting”Fixed Space HeatingLoad Group “D”

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Single House Table C1Column 2LightingLighting

Load groups Ai & Aii

Outside LightingFloodlighting,

Swimming Pool, Tennis courts, etc

Not lighting around house walls

Load Group “Aii”

If total bigger than 1000W

If less than 1000W

Load Group “Ai”

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A house consists of the following:

36 light fittings, 3 consisting of 3 lamp combinations3 bathroom exhaust fans

2 x 750W heat lamp, fan, light combinations3 x 2metre track lights

12 wall lights around the veranda6 x 100W bollard lights on driveway

6 x 400W metal halide flood lights for pool

Ai

Ai

DAi

Ai

Aii

Aii

Assume to be <150W

6 x 100 = 600

6 x 400 = 2400

33 + (3 x 3) = 42P3P-3 x 2 x 2 = 12P12P

13.04A

3000 W

230V

Determine the lighting load in Amps

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A house consists of the following:

36 light fittings, 3 consisting of 3 lamp combinations3 bathroom exhaust fans

2 x 750W heat lamp, fan, light combinations3 x 2metre track lights

12 wall lights around the veranda6 x 100W bollard lights on driveway

6 x 400W metal halide flood lights for pool

Ai

Ai

DAi

Ai

Aii

Aii

33 + (3 x 3) = 42P3P-3 x 2 x 2 = 12P12P

13.04A

42P3P12P12P

69P

1 – 20 =21 – 40 =41 – 60 =61 – 69 =

3A2A2A2A

9A + 13.04A =22.04A

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36 light fittings

Should indicate how it is to be broken up across the three phases

Broken up evenly

312 Fittings / 3A

NOTNOT

A B C3A 3A

36 light fittings = 3A + 2A = 5A

31.6

A B C1.6 1.6

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A house consists of the following:

36 light fittings, 3 consisting of 3 lamp combinations3 bathroom exhaust fans

2 x 750W heat lamp, fan, light combinations3 x 2metre track lights

12 wall lights around the veranda6 x 100W bollard lights on driveway

6 x 400W metal halide flood lights for pool

Ai

Ai

DAi

Ai

Aii

Aii

11 + (1 x 3) = 14P1P-1 x 2 x 2 = 4P4P

4.35A

14P1P4P4P

23P

1 – 20 =21 – 23 =

3A2A

5A + 4.35A = 9.35A /

Broken up evenly over 3 Phases

Divide by 3

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Power Power PointsPoints

Double Power Points Notes h

36 Double Power Points6 Single power points

36 x 2 =72P6P

78P1 – 20 =

21 – 40= 41 – 60 =61 – 78 =

10A5A5A5A

25A

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Power Power PointsPoints

Double Power Points Notes h

36 Double Power Points6 Single power points

36 x 2 =72P6P

78P

1 – 20 =21 – 40= 41 – 60 =61 – 78 =

10A5A5A5A

25AOther Direct Wired

Equipment that is <10A• Air conditioners• Cook tops• Water heaters

AND

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Power Power PointsPoints

15 A Power PointsNOTOther Equipment that is Covered in Load Groups

below

C Ranges, Laundry equipmentD Fixed Space Heating or cooling

equipmentE & F Water HeatersG Spa & Swimming Pool Heaters15 A Power Points suppling this equipment is covered

under each load group

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A house consists of the following:

20 Double power points8 Single power points

8A swimming pool pump4 x 15A power points

12A Air-conditioner supplied via a 15A power point14A Pool heater direct wired

Bi

Bi

Bi

Bii

DG

20 x 2 = 40P8P1P10A--

3

Determine the Power point load in Amps

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20 Double power points8 Single power points

8A swimming pool pump3 x 15A power points

12A Air-conditioner supplied via a 15A power point14A Pool heater direct wired

A house consists of the following:

Bi

Bi

Bi

Bii

DG

20 x 2 = 40P8P1P10A--

40P8P1P

49P

1 – 20 =21 – 40 =41 – 49 =

10A5A5A

20A + 10A = 30A

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• Cook tops• Wall ovens• Washing machines• Clothes driers

Must be over 10A

If supplied via a power point That power point is NOT included in Bi, Bii or Biii

An installation has:2.3 kW Cook top4 kW Wall oven 6.3 kW of Load Group C

(6300/230) 13.7Ax 0.5 =

50% of connected Load

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• IXL Tastics Heat lamps• Air conditioners• Heaters• Under floor heating

Must be over 10A

If supplied via a power point That power point is NOT included in Bi, Bii or Biii

75% of connected LoadIf reverse cycle Air-conditioner is used only the

highest system is to be taken into account

Unless it is multi zone, when both heating and cooling could operate simultaneously

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Water Water HeatersHeaters

If greater than 100W/L

Load Group E

33.3% of connected load

Load Group F

100% of connected load

• Instantaneous• Quick recovery

• Storage• Off peak

300 litre heaterwith a 2.4kW element

2400/300 = 8 W/L

15 litre heaterwith a 2.4kW element

2400/15 = 160 W/L

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

43P 3 + 2 + 2 = 7A

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

7A

44P44 + 4 = 48P 10 + 5 + 5 = 20A

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

7A

20A

(10000/230) x 0.5 = 21.7A

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

7A

20A

13 x 0.75 =

21.7A9.75A

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

7A

20A

4600/230 =

21.7A9.75A20A

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41 x 50 W down lights2 x 60 W exhaust fans4 x Single 10 A socket outlets22 x Double 10 A socket outlets1 x 10kW range1 x Permanently connected air conditioner (full load current of 13 A)1 x 4.6 kW continuous HWS

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Bi

Bi

CDF

7A

20A

21.7A9.75A20A

78.45A

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Not all single phase loads will break up evenly over three phases

But the phases must not be unbalanced by more than 25A

NSW S&IRClause 1.10.3

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30 x Light points + 2 x Exhaust fans

18 x Lights

6 x 400W mercury vapour flood lights

15 x Double power points (p/p)

10 x Single p/p & 15 x Double p/p

3 x 15A Single p/p

1 x 4.1kW wall oven

1 x 4.6kW cook top

1 x 3.6kW heat pump HWS

1 x 5.7kW 3 Air conditioner

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

C

F

D

A

B

C

A

B

C

A

B

C

A

B

C

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30 x Light points + 2 x Exhaust fans

18 x Lights

6 x 400W mercury vapour flood lights

15 x Double power points (p/p)

10 x Single p/p & 15 x Double p/p

3 x 15A Single p/p

1 x 4.1kW wall oven

1 x 4.6kW cook top

1 x 3.6kW heat pump HWS

1 x 5.7kW 3 Air conditioner

A house consists of the following:Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

C

F

D

32P 3+2A = 5A

15A

8.91A

28.9A

A

B

C

A

B

C

A

B

C

A

B

C

3A

20A

10A

7.83A

10A

15.65A

10A

18P

((6x400)230)x0.75 =

30P+1 10+5A =

10+30P+110+5+5A =

(4100230)x0.5 =

(4600230)x0.5 =

3600230 =

5700(√3 x400) =

33A 43.5A

1P of Bi = 10A

8.23A

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Submains to individual units

Columns 3, 4 or 5

MSB

Unit 1

Unit 2

Unit 3

Column 2

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How many units are there?

How are they spread across the 3 phases?

6 Units

3 = 2 Units / Phase Use Colum 3

18 Units

3 = 6 Units / Phase Use Colum 4

66 Units

3 = 22 Units / Phase Use Colum 5

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26 x Light points

2 metres of light track

2 x 750W flood lights

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

A house consists of the following:

Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

2 x 2 = 4P

1500W

26 + 4 = 30P 3A + 2A =

26 x 2 = 52P52 + 5 = 57P

10A + 5A + 5A =

(5600W/230V)x0.5

5A

4.9A

20A

10A

12.2A

11.7A

10.4A

(3600W/230V)x0.75

(2400W/230V)

74.2A

(1500W/230V)x0.75

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26 x Light points

2 metres of light track

2 x 750W flood lights

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

9 Units consists of the following:

Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

10A + (5A x 3) =

6A

25A

10A

15A

35.2A

18A

(3600W/230V) x 0.75 x 3

6A x 3 =

109A

9 Units

3 = 3 Units / Phase Use Colum 3

Not counted

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26 x Light points

2 metres of light track

2 x 750W flood lights

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

30 Units consists of the following:

Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

15A + (3.75A x 10) =

7.5A

52.5A

10A

28A

117A

60A

(3600W/230V) x 0.75 x 10

6A x 10 =

275A

30 Units

3 = 10 Units / Phase Use Colum 4

Not counted

5A + (0.25A x 10) =

2.8A x 10 =

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26 x Light points

2 metres of light track

2 x 750W flood lights

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

66 Units consists of the following:

Ai

Ai

Aii

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

50A + (1.9A x 22) =

11A

91.8A

10A

61.6A

258A

118A

(3600W/230V) x 0.75 x 22100A + (0.8A x 22)

=

550A

66 Units

3 = 22 Units / Phase Use Colum 5

Not counted

0.5A x 22 =

2.8A x 22 =

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16 Units

3 = 5.33 Units / Phase

A5 Units

Col 3

But the phases must not be unbalanced by more than 25A

B C5 Units 6 Units

Col 3 Col 4

NSW S&IRClause 1.10.3

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26 x Light points

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

16 Units consists of the following:

Ai

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

10A + (5A x 5) =

6A

35A

10A

15A

58.7A

30A

(3600W/230V) x 0.75 x 5

154.7A

5 Units / A & B Use Column 3

6A x 5 =

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26 x Light points

26 x Double 10 A socket outlets

5 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 15A Single socket outlet

1 x 5.6kW wall oven / cook top

1 x 3.6kW air conditioner

1 x 2.4kW storage HWS (Heat pump)

16 Units consists of the following:

Ai

Bi

Bi

Bii

C

D

F

15A + (3.75A x 6) =

6.5A

37.5A

10A

16.8A

70.4A

36A

(3600230) x 0.75 x 6

177.2A

6 Units / C Use Column 4

6A x 6 =

5A + (0.25A x 6) =

2.8A x 6 =

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16 Units

3 = 5.33 Units / Phase

A5 Units

Col 3

B C5 Units 6 Units

Col 3 Col 4

154.7A 154.7A 177.2A

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Loads that are used by all the unit dwellers

• Driveway/ parking lighting

• Stairwell lighting

• Power points for cleaners

• Lifts

• Swimming pool pumps

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20 x 80 W bollard Lights

30 x light points

15 x Single 10 A socket outlets

1 x 3.6kW HWS for cleaners room

1 x 3.6kW Air conditioner for lobby

1 x 12A pool pump/filter

1 x 15A lift motor

16 Units have a communal load consists of the following:

H

H

I

Ji

Jii

D

E

2A x15= 30 but maximum of 15A

14.78A

15A

7.8A

15A

12A

18.75A

(3600230) x 0.5 =

83.33A

15 x 1.25 =

Table C2 Colum 2

((20x80)230) + ((30x 60)230) =

(3600230) x 0.75 =

These circuits could also be divided across three phases