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Est-ce qu’on enseigne la mfme chose en Europe? Quel enseignement de la sclerotherapie echo- guidee? Allemagne Felizitas Pannier Bonn / Cologne Allemagne

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Page 1: Est-ce qu’on enseigne la m̂me chose en Europe ...€¦ · Duplex-Sonography of peripheral veins 100 Therapy Venous interventions 60 - Open surgery (e.g.: high ligation + stripping,

Est-ce qu’on enseigne la meme chose en Europe? Quel enseignement de la sclerotherapie echo-

guidee? Allemagne

Felizitas Pannier

Bonn / Cologne

Allemagne

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Conflicts of interest

• None

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Sclerotherapy in Germany

•German guidelines on Sclerotherapy• Close to the European Guidelines

• Specialities and subspecialities with sclerotherapy in the curriculum (2018)• Vascular surgery• Angiology• Dermatology• Phlebology

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Vascular surgery (72 months)

Knowledge Personal experienceand skills

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Diagnosis Clinical and instrumental vascular interventionsCW-Doppler-Sonographyof peripheral arteries andveins

100

Duplex-Sonography ofperipheral veins

100

Therapy Venous interventions 60

- Open surgery (e.g.: high ligation + stripping, perforator surgery, phlebectomy)

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- endovenous, sclerotherapy

Knowledge Personal experience andskills

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Diagnosis B-Mode-Sonography ofperipheral arteries andveinsCW-Doppler-Sonography ofperipheral arteries andveins

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Duplex-Sonography ofperipheral veins

100

Therapy Indication and performanceof arterial or venousinterventions includingradiological imagingSclerotherapy of superficialveins

Angiology (72 months)

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Dermatology (60 months)

Knowledge Personal experience and skills Numbers

Diagnosis Doppler-/Duplex sonography ofperipheral vessels

200

Venous / functional vascular diagnosis 200

Therapy Conservative, including physical, treatment of vascular diseases

Venous interventions of the lower leg (e.g.: phlebectomies, perforatorsurgery, high ligation + stripping, superficial thrombectomy)

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Phlebology (subspeciality) (speciallity + qualification)

Knowledge Personal experienceand skills

N

Diagnosis Doppler-Sonography of theveins

100

Duplex-Sonographie of theveins

100

Therapy Sclerotherapy

Venous interventionsof the lowerextremities (e.g.: phlebectomies, varicotomy, miniphlebosurgery, high ligation + stripping, perforatorsurgery, endovenous ablation)

Knowledge Personal experience and skills N

Preconditions - DGP membership- Subspeciality „Phlebology- or- Speciality vascular surgery,

angiology, Dermatology- or- 2 years predominantly phlebological professional work- treatment of at least 300 venouspatients per year- 60 phlebological credit points in the last 3 years- If no phlebology subspeciality orvascular speciality at least two hands-on courses in special venous topics

Diagnosis Doppler-/Duplex sonography of theveins

200

Venous / functional vasculardiagnosis

200

Therapy Sclerotherapy 100

German Society of Phlebology (DGP) curriculum ofthe„Educational Phlebology Certificate“ valid 3 years

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Questionnaire to all members of DGP who areperforming sclerotherapy• By e-mail

• 10-12/2017

• Answers: n = 311 (197 men, 99 women, 15 unknown)• 191 private practice

• 12 private hospital

• 36 employed in practice

• 57 employed in hospital

• 216 „phlebologists“

Allgemeinmedizin Chirurgie Dermatologie Innere Medizin Textfeld gesamt

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Which specialisation?

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EducationWhich education in sclerotherapy? N %

Educational courses 180 57,70

During specialisation 175 56,09

By colleagues 148 47,44

By hospitation 144 46,16

Self education 119 38,15

Online 7 2,25

Others 1 0,33

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Experience

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<6 Jahre 6-10 Jahre 11-15 Jahre 16-20 Jahre 21-25 Jahre 26-30 Jahre 31-35 Jahre 36-40 Jahre 41-45 Jahre 46-50 Jahre

Since how many years do you perform sclerotherapy?

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Sclerotherapy survey among members of the German Society of Phlebology - Indications

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Akute oberflächlicheVenenthromobose

Akute tiefeBeinvenenthrombose

Bekannte Allergiegegen das

Sklerosierungsmittel

Generell reduzierterGesundheitszustand

HohesThromboserisiko

Lange Bettlägerigkeit Lokale Infektion im zusklerosierenden Areal

Lungenembolie NeurologischeSymptome nach

früherer Sklerosierung

Periphere arterielleVerschlusskrankeit

(PAVK)

Schwangerschaft Schwere generalisierteInfektion

Starke allergischePrädisposition

Stillzeit SymptomatischerRechts-Links Shunt

What do you consider a contraindication for foam sclerotherapy?

absolute Kontraindikation relative Kontraindikation

acute acute allergy severe gen high VTE confined local PE neurol sympt pAOD pregnancy severe predis for breast RL-shunt SVT DVT to sclero illness risk to bed infection after sclero infection allergy feeding

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Diagnosis

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What kind of diagnostics do you perform before sclerotherapy?

Immer (1) Häufig (2) Selten (3) Nie (4) Keine Angabe (5)

Anamnesis clinical inv Duplex cw-Doppler phlebography PPG venous pressre VVP

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Foam sclerotherapy

1+17%

1+26% 1+3

11%

1+469%

1+56%

1+61%

others0,5%

Which liquid/gas proportion do you use for foam production?

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0,25% 0,5% 1% 1,5% 2% 2,5% 3% 3,5% 4%

Which concentrations do you prefer for foam sclerotherapy?

Besenreiser Retikuläre Varizen Stammvarizen Seitenastvarizen Inkompetente Perforansvenen Rezidiv - Varizen Venöse Malformationen

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Number of injections

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Besenreiser RetikuläreVarizen

Stammvarizen InkompetentePerforansvenen

Rezidiv - Varizen VenöseMalformationen

Approximally how many injections do you use per session of foam sclerotherapy?

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Interval between sessions

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wenige Tage 1 Woche 2 Wochen 3 Wochen mehr als 3 Wochen

What is the mean duration between two sessions of foam sclerotherapy?

Stammvarizen Seitenastvarizen retikuläre Varizen Besenreiser

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Ultrasound guided foam sclerotherapy (UGFS)

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rountinemäßig bei Rezidiven bei Patienten mitGefäßanomalien

nie k.A.

When do you use UGFS?

Besenreiser Retikuläre Varizen Seitenastvarizen Stammvarizen

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Summary

• Duplex-sonography of peripheral veins and sclerotherapy are part ofthe official curricula of vascular surgery, angiology , dermatology andphlebology (last update 2018).

• They are also part of the German Society of Phlebology (DGP) curriculum of the „Educational Phlebology Certificate“

• Foam-sclerotherapy or ultrasound guided foam sclerotherapy (UGFS) are not specifically mentioned.

• The German guidelines of sclerotherapy are the official guidance forthe method (last update 2019).

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Current reality

• Sclerotherapy in Germany is performed predominantly according to theEuropean / German guidelines

• Before sclerotherapy duplex ultrasound is performed by the majority

• Foam sclerotherapy is used mainly in side branches, recurrent VV andsaphenous VV

• Room air without microfilter and 1+4 liquid/gas relation are widely used

• Only polidocanol is registered

• Sclerotherapy training is performed in educational hands-on courses, during specialisation and by colleagues / hospitation in almost equal parts

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Thank you very much for listening