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Facing Risks and Building Trust: Grid and Cloud Adopters and Providers from a Legal Perspective Davide M. Parrilli ICRI – K.U. Leuven – IBBT time.lex Brussels [email protected]

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Page 1: Facing Risks and Building Trust: Grid and Cloud Adopters and Providers from a Legal Perspective Davide M. Parrilli ICRI – K.U. Leuven – IBBT time.lex Brussels

Facing Risks and Building Trust: Grid and Cloud Adopters and Providers from a

Legal Perspective

Davide M. Parrilli ICRI – K.U. Leuven – IBBT

time.lex Brussels [email protected]

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Introdution

Lawyer: a person who is very good in indicating problems and

who is very bad in proposing solutions to these problems.

Often true, but not always – but in this presentation we’ll talk about

open issues without solution (yet). Need for open discussion

between scientists, practitioners and policymakers.

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Risks and Trust (I)

Grid and Cloud computing are not riskless, mainly due to its transnational nature:

•User, service provider and technology provider may be established in different countries;

•Hardware resources (datacenters) may be dispersed in different countries.

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Risks and Trust (II)

In pure national scenarios (all previous elements in one country) there are of course less issues and problems

– one set of laws applies with no potential conflictsone set of laws applies with no potential conflicts.

But still some issues arise: e.g. liability for not-delivery of the services, damages for security failures – are

courts able to solve these disputes??

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Risks and Trust (III)

Consumers are more protected by applicable laws and by courts: the SLAs with them cannot be too unbalanced in

favor of the provider.

Users: consumers and businesses.Users: consumers and businesses.

Consumer: who uses the Grid or Cloud (and/or the services provided

in a Grid or Cloud environment) purely for personal purposes – professional use is excluded!

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Risks and Trust (IV)

Businesses are basically not protected.

Tips: as end user, read always first the SLA!

The same applies when service providers buy Grid/Cloud services

from a technology provider.

Usually the technology provider will shift risks and liabilities to the service provider and the latter will

shift them to the end user.

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Risks and Trust (V)

Critical issues: security and liability – if the SLA does not face and solve them adequately it is difficult to

build trust towards service and technology providers.

What to do? Industry itself should realize that better contracts are in the interest of everybody – it doesn’t

mean less profit bur rather more investments!

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Google’s powers (I)

A step further: what are big service and technology providers becoming?

I.e.: some of the companies that use and develop Grid and Cloud computing are acquiring a huge economic

and social power – the Google case.

Should we be afraid of this phenomenon?

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Google’s power (II)

What is Google?

A.A company providing services, technology, information, etc etc.

B.A new country without atomic bombs but very

powerful;

C.A new God.

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Google’s power (III)

The right answer is…no idea!

Google has an impact on the way people think,

operate, work and live. It generates and affects the

knowledge and the information that people

have.Quid from the legal point of

view?

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Google’s power (IV)

Google can (reasonably?) think that it is above the law – btw, all lawyers use Google to find

laws and decisions…

For the very fact that Google operates at global level, it is subject to a huge amount

of laws and regulations.

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Google’s power (V)

Case: Criminal investigation in Milan, Italy – the prosecutor ask Google to disclose data relating to access of

Gmail accounts by Google’s clients.

Answer: no way! The management of Google decides what data (and to

whom) can be disclosed, even when the life and safety of people are in danger.

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Google’s power (VI)

Behavior to criticize: the laws are supposed to protect the interests of the collectivity, especially

when a criminal investigation and trial are involved.

Laws (should) follow a democratic process;

Google’s decision not.

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Google’s power (VII)

But…respecting all applicable laws for Google is a huge cost and often it is

simply not possible.

E.g.: Italian law sets forth certain obligations about retention of users’ data – other laws may set different

rules . Which rules shall Google follow??

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Google’s power (VIII)

Possible answersPossible answers:

• The law of the country of incorporation of the company shall be always applicable: not

implementable (incorporation in ‘law heavens’);

• The law of the country where the Cloud components are located shall be always applicable: not implementable (and not

accepted by E-Commerce Directive);

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Google’s power (IX)

• The law of the country of the recipient of the services or where the services are enjoyed applies: probably the best solution (but in the EU, e.g. in the banking and financial sector, ‘home state’ principle applies –

possible in geographical areas with harmonized rules or similar standards).

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Google’s power (X)

Solutions: harmonizationharmonization at global level of rules that apply to transnational providers of

information – rules for traditional media are not applicable!

There is no unique place where the content is created and stored, and there are many place

where access to the content takes place.

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Google’s power (XI)

Similar (and very important) issue: taxationtaxation.

All countries would probably like to tax locally the profits

generated by Google as much as possible.

Problem: how is it possible to calculate the profits generated

by Google country per country?

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Google’s power (XII)

Risk to tax the profits arising from the services supplied via Cloud

infrastructures many times (in all countries where Cloud

components are located) or never (thanks to a careful tax planning

policy).

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Conclusions (I)

Grid/Cloud computing and the supply of everything as a service (including knowledge and information) is

changing the business reality and the mentality of people. The effects of the Grid/Cloud technology, and the way it is deployed, are huge and cannot simply be analyzed and approached with traditional instruments.

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Conclusions (II)

Do we live in a world without borders? Sometimes yes, and Grid/Cloud computing is a perfect example – but

laws and standards are still based on borders.

(Btw, Google knows borders too – those imposed by China. Maybe is Google weak with the strong and

strong with the weak?)

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