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Great fighter comparison by Kirk Webber including some of the potential fighter options for Canada, as well as stats for the CF-18 and F-22 for baselines.

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  • Baseline Comparison

    CF-18AM Typhoon T3 F-35A Rafale C F-15E F-18F F-18ASH Gripen NG F-16E F-22 Notes Minute Fraction

    THRUST TO WEIGHT

    Max Thrust 32,000 40,460 43,000 34,000 58,200 44,000 52,800 18,100 29,500 70,000 1 0.02

    A. Basic Empty Weight 23,049 24,250 29,300 20,900 31,700 32,081 34,851 12,600 18,900 43,340 2 0.03

    T/W Ratio 1.39 1.67 1.47 1.63 1.84 1.37 1.52 1.44 1.56 1.62 3 0.05

    B. Combat Weight @ Target 36,288 34,439 43,595 30,381 51,830 47,313 56,325 18,944 29,162 60,472 4 0.07

    T/W Ratio 0.88 1.17 0.99 1.12 1.12 0.93 0.94 0.96 1.01 1.16 indicator of aircraft performance, start 5 0.08

    C. Bingo Fuel Weight 30,602 27,661 35,690 24,461 41,356 40,079 46,367 15,274 23,492 48,226 6 0.10

    T/W Ratio 1.05 1.46 1.20 1.39 1.41 1.10 1.14 1.19 1.26 1.45 indicator of aircraft performance, end 7 0.12

    D. Max T-O Weight 51,550 51,800 70,000 53,900 81,000 66,000 66,000 31,000 42,300 83,500 8 0.13

    T/W Ratio 0.62 0.78 0.61 0.63 0.72 0.67 0.80 0.58 0.70 0.84 may indicate runway length performance 9 0.15

    10 0.17

    FUEL

    Full Internal Fuel 10,860 11,020 18,200 10,360 13,123 13,550 13,550 7,322 5,920 18,000 11 0.18

    Plus Conformal Tanks N/A N/A N/A N/A 22,873 N/A 19,780 N/A 12,022 N/A 12 0.20

    Plus Centre Tank 13,100 12,820 N/A 12,610 27,008 16,804 23,034 10,372 14,056 N/A 13 0.22

    Plus 2 Wing Tanks 15,340 14,620 23,976 14,860 31,143 20,058 26,288 13,422 16,090 26,000 14 0.23

    Max 17,580 16,420 23,976 17,110 35,278 23,312 29,542 13,422 18,124 26,000 15 0.25

    16 0.27

    LOAD

    Useful Load MTOW - BEW 28,501 27,550 40,700 33,000 49,300 33,919 31,149 18,400 23,400 40,160 17 0.28

    Full Int Fuel Useful Load 17,641 16,530 22,500 22,640 26,427 20,369 11,369 11,078 11,378 22,160 18 0.30

    Useful Load After Max Fuel 10,921 11,130 16,724 15,890 14,022 10,607 1,607 4,978 5,276 14,160 excess weight for A/G weapons 19 0.32

    20 0.33

    ENGINES

    Engine GE F404-400 EJ-200 PW F-135 Snecma M88PW F100-229 GE F414-400 GE F414 EPE Volvo RM12 GE F110-100 PW F119 21 0.35

    Number 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 2 engines preferred, not mandatory 22 0.37

    Max Thrust each 16,000 20,230 43,000 17,000 29,160 22,000 26,400 18,100 28,600 35,000 23 0.38

    Mil Thrust each 11,000 13,490 28,000 11,250 17,800 13,000 15,600 12,100 17,155 23,500 24 0.40

    80% Thrust each 8,800 10,792 22,400 9,000 14,240 10,400 12,480 9,680 13,724 18,800 25 0.42

    SFC Max each 1.74 1.70 1.91 1.72 1.94 1.69 2.03 1.74 1.94 1.92 26 0.43

    SFC Mil each 0.81 0.74 0.87 0.78 0.76 0.79 0.94 0.81 0.76 0.87 27 0.45

    SFC .8 Mil each 0.57 0.52 0.61 0.55 0.53 0.55 0.66 0.57 0.53 0.61 28 0.47

    29 0.48

    MISC

    Wing Area 400 551 460 492 608 500 500 323 300 840 30 0.50

    Wingloading at C. Weight 90.72 62.50 94.77 61.75 85.25 94.63 112.65 58.65 97.21 71.99 indicator of aircraft performance 31 0.52

    32 0.53

    33 0.55

    Cruise Mach at Full Mil 0.90 1.50 1.20 1.40 0.90 0.90 0.90 1.20 0.90 1.82 34 0.57

    TAS at Altitude 516 860 688 802 516 516 516 688 516 1,043 35 0.58

    36 0.60

    AMRAAM 335 670 weights for calculations 37 0.62

    AIM-9X 188 376 weights for calculations 38 0.63

    39 0.65

    300 NM MISSION PROFILE

    1 minute TO 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 40 0.67

    1 minute full burner 1,114 1,376 1,646 1,170 2,263 1,485 2,139 630 1,110 2,688 41 0.68

    42 0.70

    Performance Climb Time 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 43 0.72

    Performance Climb Burn 1,426 1,597 1,949 1,404 2,164 1,634 2,353 784 1,043 3,271 44 0.73

    Performance Climb Speed 258 430 344 401 258 258 258 344 258 521 45 0.75

    Performance Climb Distance 21 34 28 32 21 21 21 28 21 42 46 0.77

    47 0.78

    Cruise Time 0.54 0.31 0.40 0.33 0.54 0.54 0.54 0.40 0.54 0.25 48 0.80

    Cruise Fuel Burn 9654 6170 9654 5861 14657 11067 15936 3884 7063 10127 49 0.82

    Performance Cruise, Full Mil 279 266 272 268 279 279 279 272 279 258 50 0.83

    51 0.85

    5 min full burner at target 4,640 5,732 6,859 4,873 9,428 6,189 8,912 2,625 4,624 11,200 52 0.87

    53 0.88

    Fuel Burn at target 12,193 9,143 13,249 8,435 19,084 14,186 20,428 5,298 9,216 16,086 54 0.90

    55 0.92

    RTB cruise time 0.73 0.44 0.55 0.47 0.73 0.73 0.73 0.55 0.73 0.36 56 0.93

    RTB cruise speed 413 688 550 642 413 413 413 550 413 834 57 0.95

    RTB cruise burn 7,257 4,878 7,440 4,594 11,018 8,319 11,979 2,993 5,309 8,234 58 0.97

    59 0.98

    Total time, Hours 1.45 0.93 1.13 0.98 1.45 1.45 1.45 1.13 1.45 0.79 time for high reaction intercept 60 1.00

    Total Fuel Burn 19,449 14,021 20,689 13,029 30,102 22,505 32,407 8,291 14,525 24,320 mission fuel, may indicate unit costs

    Config max fuel 2 wing 2 wing 2 wing 2 wing max fuel max fuel centre only centre only 2 wing excess fuel margin for further interceptsWould have to

    decrease cruise burn to meet fuel

    or tanker

    adding wing tanks increases radar

    return or tanker, drag penalty

    very high drag penalty or tanker

    very high drag penalty or tanker

    adding wing tanks increases radar

    return or tanker

    RANGE

    GTOW with Full Fuel 40,629 40,670 53,276 38,010 66,978 55,393 64,393 26,022 37,024 69,340

    1 minute TO 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.02

    1 minute full burner 1,114 1,376 1,646 1,170 2,263 1,485 2,139 630 1,110 2,688

    Cruise Climb Time 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08 0.08

    Cruise Climb Burn 998 1,118 1,364 983 1,515 1,144 1,647 549 730 2,290

    Cruise Climb Speed 413 559 550 562 413 413 413 550 413 521

    Cruise Climb Distance 33 45 44 45 33 33 33 44 33 42

    Fuel Remaining 15,468 13,926 20,966 14,958 31,500 20,683 25,756 12,243 16,284 21,022

    FF Factor 0.60 0.45 0.60 0.50 0.60 0.60 0.60 0.60 0.60 0.30

    Fuel Flow 5,988 5,031 8,185 4,914 9,091 6,864 9,884 3,293 4,381 6,870

    15 Minute Reserve 1,497 1,258 2,046 1,229 2,273 1,716 2,471 823 1,095 1,717

    Distance 963 1,407 1,272 1,569 1,326 1,140 972 1,908 1,430 1,465 ferry or combat air patrolIncrease range

    with ferry tanksIncrease range with 5 external

    tanks, large drag penalty

    COST ESTIMATES

    Unit Cost ($1 USD = $.92 CDN) $0 $135,000 $136,000 $96,000 $109,000 $73,000 $83,000 $75,000 $60,000 $163,043

    Max Units 77 90 65 107 43 58 42 144 87 68 units to meet baseline requirement of 80 aircraftAcquisition $0 $12,150,000 $8,840,000 $10,272,000 $4,687,000 $4,234,000 $3,486,000 $10,800,000 $5,220,000 $11,086,957

    Years 8 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30

    Added for engines factor $2,000 $2,000 $1,000 $2,000 $2,000 $2,000 $2,000 $1,000 $1,000 $1,000

    Added for crew factor $200 $200 $200 $200 $400 $200 $200 $200 $200 $200

    Cost per hour factor $29 $21 $31 $20 $45 $34 $49 $12 $22 $36

    Lifetime @ 250 hours per year $6,524,625 $13,183,661 $17,019,658 $15,444,837 $21,147,206 $21,325,157 $22,236,991 $15,111,235 $20,645,294 $14,709,066 Better performance the lower the lifetime cost. More aircraft would decrease operating cost proportionally. Excess aircraft for attrition, lower risk of accidents, increased time between overhauls and operational deployments.

    Engine & Crew Factor $17,600 $66,000 $36,000 $66,000 $72,000 $66,000 $66,000 $36,000 $36,000 $36,000

    Total (x1000) $6,542,225 $25,399,661 $25,895,658 $25,782,837 $25,906,206 $25,625,157 $25,788,991 $25,947,235 $25,901,294 $25,832,023baseline budget

    SELECTION

    Cautions Baseline 2 1 1 4 1 marginally deficient to CF-18 performanceFails Baseline 4 4 7 9 5 7 2 below CF-18 performance

    Wins Baseline 6 3 8 2 1 3 7 in top 3 above CF-18 performanceNet Gain Baseline 5 -1.5 8 -2.5 -9 -8.5 -2 -7 5 positive is better

    Add for LO 1 2

    Add for EO Suite 1 1 1 1 1 1

    Add for EW Suite 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

    Add for AESA Radar 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

    Add for Operationally Proven 1 1 1 1 1

    Subtract for End-of-Life 1 2 2 1 3

    Gross Gain over CF-18AM 9 3 11 1 -8 -9 -1 -5 7

    CF-18AM Typhoon T3 F-35A Rafale C F-15E F-18F F-18ASH Gripen NG F-16E F-22Assuming a $65m

    acquisition cost and operational

    costs over 30 years, the RCAF

    would only affort 67 CF-18's

    Meets or exceeds the CF-18 in all

    criteria. Operational costs

    may be higher than forecasted.

    Add better sensor suite and low

    observability and it is only a

    marginal gain in overall

    performance.

    Meets or exceeds the CF-18 in all

    criteria.

    High operating costs and low

    acquisition. Heavy load a long

    distance.

    High operating costs and low

    acquisition. Estimated SFC.

    High operating costs and low

    acquisition. Estimated SFC.

    Lower usable loads but offset

    by higher numbers.

    well below CF-18 performace

    marks.

    Higher operating cost offset by

    better performance. Add

    sensor suite and low obervability

    gains. Not in production