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AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL "HORROR CORE" RAPPERS, THEIR FANATICS
(Sam "Syko Sam" McCroskey and Andreas "Sicktanic" Shrim)
AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL "HORROR CORE" RAPPERS & THEIR FANATICS
September 23, 2009
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This is America, a nation still reeling from religiously motivated terrorism.
A nation under attack by Militant Islam and its adherents who want to kill American Christians; to chop off heads and butcher people in the name of their religion.
The terrorists and suicide bombers we read about in the papers and watch on the news are trained in specific ways. They are indoctrinated with hate for the West. They are taught that "infidels" are worthy of death and worse. They are convinced that they are G-d's chosen people and that they are carrying out His will.
They intimidate us with videotaped beheadings. They chant their religious prayers as they kill our people. They wear masks, brandish blades and guns, and make it clear that they are reveling in the powerful feelings their barbaric rites give them.
Yet, their extremist snuff films are not considered "art" nor would their bloody video manifestos be protected in America under the guise of "free speech." None of this should surprise any of you because you know the reality of what such extremists are capable of.
But here are my questions to you:
a) Would you BUY their Terrorist Propaganda videos?
b) Would you learn to chant their death-cult prayers, and perhaps put posters of the killers on your bedroom walls?
c) Would you approve of their messages if it involved the rape, murder, and torture of American Christians?
Of course my questions are rhetorical. The answer is YES to all of the above. You certainly do already. The "Horror Core" genre of music, specifically from Serial Killin Records is exactly the same thing. It's not protected speech. It's not art. It goes way
beyond that.
HORROR CORE RAP = TERRORIST PROPAGANDA
It's not just shock-rock anymore. That line was crossed a long time ago. How much more killing is it going to take before America realizes that the rap/hip-hop culture is a homicidal culture?
These so-called artists are terrorists in our own back yards, starting to creep out of their dirt holes and basements into places like Oakland, Richmond, and San Francisco. They are coming to the burbs like San Jose, Walnut Creek, Petaluma, San Rafael, etc. Places that were traditionally safe will no longer be safe due to this urban terrorist invasion.
"DOCTRINES OF THE DAMNED"
The murderer Sam McCroskey is not a lone nut killer. He killed a priest, a professor, and two teenage girls for his cult-gang known as Serial Killin Records. They dubbed him their "Unholy Apostle" for a reason. He was following orders, taken right out of SKR's teachings, their "Doctrines of the Damned."
Serial Killin Records owner Andreas Shrim, aka "Sicktanic", taught Sam McCroskey how to serve the gang. Internet videos show the drug use, the alcohol, and the gang indoctrination. It's obvious that they are all in on the killings. Just look at these Horror Core musicians, with their gang tattoos, their drug use, and their self-mutilation. Examine their portrayals of violence against clergy and women. Their bold, murderous statements are open declarations of intent to kill those they see as "infidels".
In "SickTanicK's" own words, he describes his upcoming release:
"Chapter 2 : In Nomine SickTanicK" is still in the somewhat "early development" stages, but is shaping up to be the darkest and most serious work yet from SickTanicK. Compromised of song titles like "Cornerstone" "Ritual Rape" "Say You Love Satan" & "A New Aeon" this album promises to be a Occult work of art. A Much deeper and straight foreward look at the Occult Working of his series of "Audio Grimoires"
● "Cornerstone" is a Freemasonic reference: link ● "Ritual Rape" is pure evil, and it is all too real: link ● "Say You Love Satan" was what Satanic Serial Killer
Richard "The Night Stalker" Ramirez said to his dying victims: link
● "A New Aeon" is a reference to Modern Satanism as taught by Aleister Crowely: link
RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED TERRORISM
The rappers on Serial Killin Records are ZEALOTS.
They are avowed Satanists. It is most definitely NOT just a matter of shock-art or stage antics.
They openly endorse the practice of Satanic Rituals right out of the Satanic Bible.
Andreas Shrim taught Sam McCrosky to be like the "Son of Sam" Dave Berkowitz, which is how McCroskey got his stage name "Syko Sam." Incidentally, Sicktanic dubbed McCroskey the "Lil Demon Dog" as a further reference to Dave Berkowitz who took orders from a "demon dog" named "Sam."
In a music video entitled "In Tha Name Of," the rappers behead Christians. The video is shot in a room designed to resemble the apartment of David Berkowitz.
Get the idea?
This rap label put McCroskey up to the killings. They bragged about it in advance with their lyrics, imagery, and personal statements. The evidence bears this out and as long as you pour your money and your lives into this twisted, anti-Christian hate-speech, you are sponsoring terrorists.
"SICKTANIC" IS AN AMERICAN TERRORIST. FANS OF SERIAL KILLIN RECORDS ARE TERRORIST SPONSORS. THE MURDERS COMMITTED BY SAM McCROSKY WERE IDEOLOGICAL KILLINGS. THESE CULT/ GANG MURDERS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT CHARLES MANSON ORCHESTRATED, OR FROM WHAT TERRORISTS AROUND THE WORLD WANT TO DO TO CITIZENS OF THIS NATION.
MARK THESE WORDS: THERE WILL BE MORE ARRESTS. IT'S CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY. I SUGGEST YOU TAKE ALL THOSE RECORDS, T-SHIRTS, AND AUTOGRAPHED POSTERS AND BURN THEM.
-- An Outraged Citizen http://horror-core.blogspot.com/
PS: A NOTE ABOUT SYKO SAM T-SHIRTS: http://www.cafepress.com/imgoinsamonit
Think about this for a moment. Rather than donate money to assist in offsetting the costs of FOUR FUNERALS, these Horror-Core Rappers make music about Syko Sam and sell t-shirts....And shirts which MOCK THE VICTIMS NO LESS!
79 comments:
Anonymous said...
im hearing that a chick by the name of RAZAKEL? asked this kid SAM to kill these 2 poor girls because they slept with sicktanick after some concert they just had, anyone heard of this? supposedly Razakel is also a rapper that dates sickfaggot and is on SKR...and raps about the same stuff MAYBE worse then her counterpart sicktanick
September 23, 2009 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...
Arrest ALL these degenerate sociopaths.
Their website Killmusic brags about this as good publicity.
what garbage
September 23, 2009 4:14 PM
Anonymous said...
I saw his MySpace page, I know their going to remove it soon, but I don't see how the Shrim guy can defend him. I mourn for the victims and their families. That poor girl trusted someone she didn't really know. A real creep!!
September 23, 2009 4:28 PM
Anonymous said...
HorrorCore Rules!!!! Holyrollers suck!!!
September 23, 2009 8:00 PM
Anonymous said...
This was all a plan mapped out by Sicktanick to gain fame!!!! that is 100% fact...they asked this Sam guy to murder these girls at some concert they had in MICH. so they could gain fame...Y u think SICK called the cops to
act innocent???
September 23, 2009 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Unholy Execution
ima american terrorist raised up in this wicked nationbreeded and sent by the peoples frustrations and imnot al queda ima homegrown satanist terroristwho loves to kill a fucking passafist youve beenfound guilty by the doctrines of the damned for preachinbeliefs that contradict the left hand ive got a bomb on my chestand im not afraid to use it, got the power of the devil, bestbelieve im gunna abuse it on american christiansand catholics fuck the baptists and muslim theatricsyour god was a bastard your vrigin was a whoreand mohummad was a faggot and the pope molestedlittle boys tell me what you wanna know aboutthis dirty bomb shit chemical warfare in the landof the free bitch the twin towers was only the beginningso indulge in desire the real terrorisms coming from me
Hook Welcome, Welcome, To My, Unholy Execution
after 9/11 everyone got patriotic but before 9/11 it was aboutthe chronic no one really gave a fuck about this countryand it took a disaster like this to bring a little unitythats pathetic and i wont accept that so i got anthraxmustard gas and a guest pass to the white houseim fittin to have some fun so fuck george bush hiswife and his bitch ass son fuck the democratstoo and all of congress you wanna imprisonthe public and now your gunna be haunted, after thatim off to the vatican with a hijacked planeand a mind full of sin, preachin thier nonsenseim gunna cause a real ruckus you want the devilwell your gunna get him fuck it, and as the planecollides the tears fall from your eyes your all gunnadie and your heaven is denied
Hook
say farewell to the flesh our most prized posessionand during the exorcism i took the devils blessingand now i got c4 strapped to my chest as i enter the churchi said give god your best cause your all about to dieand your faith means nothing and where the hell yougoin to your not runnin and im gunning for every church in americaim gunna show em thier worth through hysteriaas a pile of ashes i blast this murder is my drug motherfuckersand ive become an addict so dont panic on the planewhen im by you just grab your nuts motherfuckerand let me show you the truth there is no god or a warfor oil its only me on this earth and im in control so whenthe big bomb busts are you gunna be awake in your cityim killin and this is real and not fake.
September 23, 2009 10:13 PM
Anonymous said...
LOL Did you really think your that rap was good and had any musical value what so ever? lolololololol, Almost as funny as some ginger satan kid going cross country to butch people! South park should make an episode
September 24, 2009 8:28 AM
Anonymous said...
What about the christians that have barbarically murdered and butchered people throughout history? What about when christians burned witches at the stake? What about the catholic churches stance of neutrality during wwII? What makes this any different?I can guarantee you beyond all doubt that more murders have been carried out in the name of God then will ever be perpetrated by a horrorcore fan or rapper. This is an extremely stupid letter. Get off your soap box and realize that you are no different. Just a fan of another culture (Christianity) that while good in theory is always taken to extremes by its fanatics. What would you reccomend we do by the way? Illegalize horrorcore? Condemn rappers to death? Typical christian solution.
September 24, 2009 10:01 AM
Anonymous said...
^ didn't the letter compare "horrorcore" rap music to militant islam? you rap fans are illiterate.
September 24, 2009 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...
Sickdicklicker is to busy coming up with the next half of his shitty rap to post on a blog, Or maybe he's waiting to find out if razakel is really a man. Either way if your not planning another murder I think the general public just doesn't give a sh!t.
September 24, 2009 10:17 AM
Anonymous said...
all the shit talkers create their own doom. god is a fucking lie and xtians are sheep
September 24, 2009 11:40 AM
Anonymous said...
I wouldn't let a guy who listened to that junk within 10 feet of my daughters. Jesus Christ what is wrong with these people?!!!!!!
September 24, 2009 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous is the man.
September 24, 2009 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Interesting how the websites are being shut down.. as the FBI get what they need and follow the links from beginning to end. Yes, there will be more arrests.
September 24, 2009 8:12 PM
Anonymous said...
FUCK YOU ALL.
We R A Family, We're Nothing Like No Pussy Ass Satanic Cult.
SKR Haz Christian Fans, Juggalo Fans, DJ Fans & All.
D Girls Woodnt Ever Fucking Fuckover Another Family Member. The Whole Razakel Claiming Hit Iza Fucking Fib. It's Bullshit.
Correct Me If I'm Wrong, but I Kno Christians R D 1s Dat Support Abortion, Which Horrorcore Mentions. They Allow Rapings From Actual Christian/Godly BS Cults. Fuck, They Give Up Their Own Kids 2 B Supposively Saved By God. Fuck Y'all.
Typical Christian Bullshit, Bann, Illegalize Horrorcore, Fucking Pussies. U think There's Really A Heaven N Hell. NO!
We R Not Sociopaths, We Welcome All. Satanists, Christian Cock Suckers, Faggots, Dykes, So called Normal People, Gang Members, Police, Fuck I've Gotten Several Cops From My City N2 SKR.
SKR Along With The Ramining REAL Horrorcore Family, Are Business People.
Just Like You Fucks Enjoi Ur Bullshit Nigger Rap, Ur Fucking Lovey Dovey CUNTry Shit, Rock, Metal, Whutever Itiz U Pigs Lissen 2, Horrorcore Is OUR Choice.
September 25, 2009 2:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Ok all i have to say is its a free country and we all have our right to our own opinions! so saying that you do have the right to talk a load of shit about who ever you want to....now i can see were you would take SKR as a horrible thing...(in my opinion its not that great of musik) but it is ent. weather it makes people go insane and kill or waether it makes kids go to church ppl buy and artsit and producer and labels ect. make money! we all have to eat...now you shouldnt go wasting your time typin up a blog about a "record label" you should write one about world peace and your push for it why waste you time give a near no name unground label promotion you should be pushin for peace by doing this there just gonna get a load a publicity now i understand your concern about sam and the tragic murders..But! mars was on abq news a few nights ago explaining WE ENTERTAINERS!!!!! YES ITS ABOUT MURDER DEATH AND RAPE BUT ITS WHAT A
FAIRLY LARGE GROUP OF PPL WANT TO HERE...we are all in a free country dude....your fucking preist are touching little boys....AND STRIGHT UP FUCK YOU FOR LABELING RAP AS A HOMICIDLE MUSIC!!!! yes it has ins bad side...but you dont listen to the good side! listen to black eyed peas "weres the love" theres alot more....you stupid fucks waste your time hating sicktanick is not gonna stop what he does nor all the arist doing what hes doing look at the juggalo family icp brought kids who were picked on, put down and never could fit a place they could call were they belong....delete this stupid blog and write one about world peace all you do is cause more drama.......
September 25, 2009 2:52 AM
Kyle said...
its funny how all of the people runnin their mouths on here gotta hide behind an anonymous name. if your gonna talk atleast do it it pride. an not in self shame.. ignorant fucks
September 25, 2009 3:01 AM
WHAT KIND OF FREAK RAPS ABOUT RAPE?!!!! said...
im tired of hearing this its just music bullshit, and we all know it influences behavior in some people
September 25, 2009 3:20 AM
Anonymous said...
Half of you can't even fucking spell. Is that hte main thing SKR artists and fans have in common? Illiteracy?
September 25, 2009 5:55 AM
ALBACRAZEY said...
OK!!!!!!!WHOEVER WROTE THIS IS A FUCKIN GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
"What about the christians that have barbarically murdered and butchered people throughout history? What about when christians burned witches at the stake? What about the catholic churches stance of neutrality during wwII? What makes this any different?I can guarantee you beyond all doubt that more murders have been carried out in the name of God then
will ever be perpetrated by a horrorcore fan or rapper. This is an extremely stupid letter. Get off your soap box and realize that you are no different. Just a fan of another culture (Christianity) that while good in theory is always taken to extremes by its fanatics. What would you reccomend we do by the way? Illegalize horrorcore? Condemn rappers to death? Typical christian solution."
September 25, 2009 5:58 AM
BLOODLUST said...
FIRST OFF I DONT HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND ANYTHING UNLIKE YOU WEAK LITTLE COWARDS THAT SPEAK BIG BAD WORDS ABOUT SKR WHICH YOU NO NOTHING ABOUT!I REFUSE TO DEBATE WITH YOU OVER RELIGIOUS ISSUES DONT COME AT ME WITH YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD FAIRYTAILS OR EVIL SATAN MYTHS!WHAT AMAZES ME IS AWEEK AGO NONE OF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO SAY IM WILLING TO BET YOU NEVER EVEN HEARD OF US TILL THE MEDIA PICKED UP ON IT! NOW YOU CLAIM TO NO US BETTER THEN OURSELFS...FUCK YOU'VE BLAMED US FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY BAD THING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN HISTORY...GET A FUCKIN LIFE!YOU HAVE SO MUCH INFO ABOUT SKR AND ITS INNER WORKINGS IM A MEMBER OF SKR AND IVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THE BULLSHIT YOU SPEAK OF.I WILL SAY THIS YOU ALL SEEM TO HAVE ALL THE INFO ABOUT THE HOWS AND WHYS OF THE MURDER OF MY FRIENDS WHY DIDNT YOU COME FORTH ABOUT THIS TERRIBE TERROIST SATANIC CULT OF KRAZED KILLERS BEFORE MY FRIENDS WERE MURDERED...WHY BECAUSE YOU NEVER EVEN HEARD OF OF US...FUCK OFF!
September 25, 2009 6:22 AM
Anonymous said...
..really..? WOW... Some One Has NO life...how fucking sad.. but hey..at least we have good muzik 2 listen 2! LOL!!!!!!
September 25, 2009 6:50 AM
XxRedruMxX said...
you know....sick and raz may seen like they took part in all this....im pretty sure they didnt intend for all of this to happen!!! raz and sick were good
people....and serial killin records is not a fucking gang...get your shit right!!! andy would never want to hurt one of his own fans! ever and i know that for a fact....i dont associate with them anymore like i use to....but i know that andy would never wanted anything to happen to those girls or their family!
September 25, 2009 7:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Hello all stupid motherfuckers that honestly don't know ANYTHING about horrorcore or our fam brfore you go around TRYING to spread rumors about how it happened or why look at Sam he did it no one told him to expecially not sick or raz they loved them we're all family Sam WAS a good kid i myself have talked to him but he fucked up so fuck him but don't connect horrorcore to terrorism how ignorant can you be? You don't know their families you're not the one they has to watch their families break down so don't say you feel sorry for them if you want to bash them and their choices so fuck every single last one of you that wanna say you're christian but you're gonna judge their lives?! it makes me sick you CAN'T even get to know any one of us you don't want to which is fine we don't judge people like you hypocritical christians so fuck off!!!
September 25, 2009 9:33 AM
Dusty said...
How about all of you stupid fucks get your head on straight. Razakel NOR Sicktanick NOR anyone from SKR told Sam to kill these girls. I personally knew both the teenage girls, & Sam. And when I met Sam, he was one of the nicest people I had ever met. Sam is 20 years old, & PERFECTLY capable of making his OWN decisions. All you stupid fucks who think otherwise are just closed minded. SKR, nor any of there followers are in a fucking gang, or a cult. I personally used to be an Unholy Apostle. Sicktanick & Razakel would NEVER tell anyone to kill people. The shit they rap about, they would NEVER do. I stand behind Sicktanick, I stand behind Razakel, & I stand behind SKR as a whole. NONE of us condone what Sam did. The actions he performed were WRONG. But HE made the decision. Period. All you stupid fucks want is someone to pin the blame on. Would you blame Steven King if someone performed the actions he writes about? NO. Or would you blame Hitler if someone carried out the actions today that he did? NO. You are all close minded assholes. Grow up & get a fucking life.
September 25, 2009 9:58 AM
Colin said...
COLIN MOTHER FUCKIN ALEXANDER says HorrorCore music FOR THE WIN bitches!!! Anonymous was right; "It IS our choice to listen" ... What about the KuKluxKlan you Hypocritical xtian FUCKS! Talkin about "DONT judge, GOD is perfect, god made ALL man equal" but you go around bashing blacks or existing? The Sheep are really the inbred mother fuckers, but that's just the Shepherd's fault, and your own for followin. Tsk tsk.
September 25, 2009 11:49 AM
absynthminded1 said...
I personally do not believe that violent music, movies, or video games influence violence in MOST cases, but I do believe that they all can be deadly in the hands of a person who is predisposed towards committing violent acts or the easily impressionable.
I'm not for some great witch hunt or condemnation of the "Horrorcore" genre as a whole, but I do feel that particular elements should be looked into. Within any subculture lies an even seedier segment of that subculture.
In the case of Serial Killin' Records, at the very least they used poor judgement by partying with MINORS (including the suspect and two of his victims), whether they provided said minors with drugs and alcohol should be investigated further.
Is it really that far out to suggest that this crime could have some cult like characteristics that could be traced all the way back to Serial Killin' Records or that certain aspects could parallel the Manson family?
I know very little about this particular outfit, but I can see that it is apparently a haven for young impressionable minds, those who chose to live outside of mainstream society, and especially those who are just looking for acceptance and love, in a world that has "forsaken" them. They are upset, disenfranchised, and they turn to "Horrorcore" for the comfort of knowing that they are not alone in their feelings.
It is these broken misguided souls that can easily be taken advantage of... much like Charles Manson did with his flock of drugged out sheep...much
like every cult since the dawning of time has preyed on the weak and vulnerable.
Will there be a parallel here? I suppose time will tell.
What I do know is that the latest details in this crime involve Satanic and other symbolism found at the crime scene. If this is the case, I for one would not be shocked to find the Syko Sam scrolled a big old "SKR" on the walls of that house in his victim's blood.
September 25, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
My music is a form of horrorcore, its gangsta/horrorcore which is the gore without the devil worship or religion bashin,i have no hate towards nobody at all,im good at what i do like movie makers make horror movies or the companies who make violent video games,I do not condone and support anybody who commited or have anything to do with these murders....but i do take offense to the media blaiming horrorcore music ONLY A SMALL PERCENT OF HORRORCORE RAPPERS ARE INTO SATANISM,they call this kid a horrorcore rapper shinning light on him like he was a artist,this dude just started recording and he sucked,never even heard of him and im from hayward which is right next to castro valley. He was a wannabe,a troubled kid and i think drugs played a huge part in his rage to drive him to do this. But again nobody knows the truth yet..
September 25, 2009 4:02 PM
WHAT KIND OF FREAKS SING ABOUT RAPING CHRISTIANS? said...
Satan is for Losers and Chumps says:
anon-- i don't know what's creepier, you horrorcore jokers or christian "anti-terrorists."
but regardless of how you slice it, there are some very disturbing elements in the McCroskey case. as far as believing the "slander," regardless of who posted it on YouTube, that IS Syko Sam and that IS his song and his lyrics, correct?
not sure why you're trying to defend a sad loser who foreshadowed this
senseless tragedy in his music before it happened. Or defend a genre which literally has no redeeming value, socially, artistically, or otherwise.
You also want to argue over semantics. maybe McCroskey wasnt shown taking drugs, but can you say with any certainty he never did them or that they werent involved in his transformation from quiet kid to serial killer? look at Melanie Wells' my space and what she lists as her interests.
at the end of the day, while one has to wonder about where the parents were in all this, it's difficult to not blame the music for the influence it had on McCroskey. he wasnt a killer before he started making horrorcore, was he? i have doubts about whether he was ordered to do this, but you never know...my personal feeling is, he tried to impress the older dudes he looked up to, who were on some devil-worshiping bullshit. or maybe his weak mind just snapped.
but tell me this: if it's just escapism, then how could this happen in reality? would these murders have happened had McCroskey been listening to the Jonas Brothers? and if its just fantasy, then why is Sicktanick bragging about his "authentic" Satanic credentials on his blog? desecrating graves, mock ritual sacrifice, etc...it's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt, right?
well, now that four people have gotten hurt and another young life has been ruined, it's time for all y'all to wake the fuck up and realize what you are doing is terribly wrong before some stupid fool makes the same mistake. horrorcore is not hip-hop, it's barely even rap, and it is beyond disturbed.
get a life. don't take one.
you want a theological practice which empowers you spiritually outside of the three major religions, why not try Buddhism? namaste.
September 26, 2009 12:03 AM
God said...
Jesus said unto him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6
September 26, 2009 3:16 AM
Dusty said...
To "What kind of freak sings about raping Christians?!": I will ask you this asshole: what kind of freak sings about killing cops & raping bitches? Yeah, that's what I thought. Every fucking black rapper out there sings about that shit. You're just afraid because horrorcore is out of your comfort zone. It scares you, & that's why you are pointing the blame at SKR, & at horrocore in general. I can guarantee Sam would have killed Emma/parents & Melanie whether or not he would've listened to SKR, or horrocore at all. "Christians" have slaughtered people throughout time, but that's not bad is it? Nope. Not to you close minded fucks. Why? Because they did it in the name of God?! Give me a fucking break. In that case, you shouldn't crucify Sam. He said Jesus told him to do it. How about that. You are fucking pathetic. I find it funny how all of you fucks can sit here & point he finger at SKR, their fans, their Apostles, & the entire horrocore genre in our time of loss & mourning. Let me ask you something. How would you feel if not one, but TWO of your closest friends died & people blamed YOU for their deaths, or blamed the music you listened to?!?! People are always saying they will die for Jesus. Well, when one of your friends or family members passes, I do wish the worst on you. I hope people point the finger at you. I hope people point their finger at the music you listen to. But no, that won't happen,because you don't go against the flow. You go with what the world wants, so people aren't afraid of you. Well boo fucking hoo that we don't have the same taste in music. EVERYONE has different tastes in musick, & you shouldn't fucking crucify us for ours. Fuck you, & anyone who even THINKS like you.
September 26, 2009 7:03 AM
bob e nite said...
the media is way more horrorcore then any artist.i do not condone this event.but i will not stop what i love to do and thats horrorcore music.
bob e nite
www.myspcae.com/bobenitewww.bobenite.info
September 26, 2009 11:20 AM
Anonymous said...
When Tragedy occurs what should matter is the tragedy itself. Not what
music the individuals chose to listen too. That is a right all Americans have and Fuck You if you think that should be taken away. Things have been taken outta porportion and the idiocy of the general public is showing how much "Caring" is in their flawed religon.
SkePtiK -Juggalo _ horrorcore fan - Juggalonews
September 26, 2009 10:47 PM
Anonymous said...
^
SkePtik,
NO ONE IS BLAMING THE MUSIC. THEY ARE BLAMING THE TERRORISTIC ANTI-CHRISTIAN IDEOLOGY. THE MUSIC IS JUST ONE UGLY SYMPTOM OF THE UNDERLYING ILLNESS.
EARTH,
September 27, 2009 12:33 AM
absynthminded1 said...
A new report claims that when cops initially showed up when McCroskey reported "noises" in the basement, the basement was covered in animal feces... which is known element of Satanic ritual.
September 27, 2009 10:45 AM
ANDREAS SHRIM IS AN ACCESSORY said...
NEW CRIME DETAILS
NOTICE THAT "SICKTANICK/ SHRIM" NEVER REVEALS THE SOURCE WHO TOLD HIM THAT SAM HAD KILLED PEOPLE....THAT FAT PIECE OF SHIT IS IN ON IT I GUARANTEE IT.
September 27, 2009 11:38 AM
absynthminded1 said...
The following song sounds like foreshadowing to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
Dead bodies; checkDecomposition; checkStolen vehicle; checkPolice involvement; check
Not saying this was necessarily a premeditated murder, but I am willing to bet that he thought it would be a lot easier than it was. He probably sat around with the decomposing bodies, trying to figure out how to dispose of them, realizing rather quickly that he wasn't going to load them up in a car and drive off with them anytime soon. This possibly necessitated his call to police, which in my opinion was part alibi/part heat check. Had a lone officer showed up, there is no doubt in my mind what "Syko" Sam would have done, in his "Murderous Rage."
September 27, 2009 12:53 PM
SERIAL KILLIN RECORDS= ANTI-CHRISTIAN TERRORISM said...
"The following song sounds like foreshadowing to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
Dead bodies; checkDecomposition; checkStolen vehicle; checkPolice involvement; check
Not saying this was necessarily a premeditated murder, but I am willing to bet that he thought it would be a lot easier than it was. He probably sat around with the decomposing bodies, trying to figure out how to dispose of them, realizing rather quickly that he wasn't going to load them up in a car and drive off with them anytime soon. This possibly necessitated his call to police, which in my opinion was part alibi/part heat check. Had a lone officer showed up, there is no doubt in my mind what "Syko" Sam would have done, in his "Murderous Rage.""
TERRORIST PROPAGANDA. THERE IS YOUR PROOF!
CHRISTIANS BEWARE!
September 27, 2009 12:58 PM
SkePtiK said...
OK Earth,
ANTI-CHRISTIAN IDEOLOGY or whatever Christian Ideology it should not matter. Too each their own one of our rights to worship whatever religon that person should choose. The first amendment is key. A lot of you right wingers are going over-kill in this debate. Your Christian religon teaches tolerance of which I have found none in any of these threads. A terrible thing happed. Now instead of arguing over wicked music and attacking a 20 YR. old, let's respect the lives these individuals had to give up. Also keep in mind the trial is not over nor has anyone been convicted of these crimes yet. Innocence until proven guilty, roght?
September 27, 2009 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...
^You are biased in favor of the killer. Anyway, there is a difference between PROTECTED FREE SPEECH and TERRORIST-PROPAGANDA. I agree with the poster who wrote:
"The following song sounds like foreshadowing to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tt1chB869A
Dead bodies; checkDecomposition; checkStolen vehicle; checkPolice involvement; check
Not saying this was necessarily a premeditated murder, but I am willing to
bet that he thought it would be a lot easier than it was. He probably sat around with the decomposing bodies, trying to figure out how to dispose of them, realizing rather quickly that he wasn't going to load them up in a car and drive off with them anytime soon. This possibly necessitated his call to police, which in my opinion was part alibi/part heat check. Had a lone officer showed up, there is no doubt in my mind what "Syko" Sam would have done, in his "Murderous Rage.""
TERRORIST PROPAGANDA. THERE IS YOUR PROOF!"
September 27, 2009 6:14 PM
SkePtiK said...
Anonymous so with your blanket statement, "TERRORIST PROPAGANDA. THERE IS YOUR PROOF!" This is the same arguement that has been made against Hip Hop and Heavy Metal throughout the decades. This is just a new outlet for that behaviour. Violent lyrics do not cause someone to kill. It can help actually remove a lot of stress and pent up aggression but you would not know anything about that. You just see something weird and decide you hate it for that fact alone. Also I have never condoned what this young man allegedly did. I have lost too many people in my personal life to wish any kind of death to a person.
September 27, 2009 8:08 PM
Anonymous said...
I hope sams BOOTY HOLE gets ripped open in jail! horrorcore rappers and fanatics are trash and are discusting human beings. Wait no, they arent human beings! How could you freaks even listen to that music after knowing that your so called good friends were murdered brutally! I hope you think of those girls and the pain they sufferd when you listen to your nasty music! you call it art..... jump into a lake...you talk about how us christians or even normal people do what is not against the flow? idiots thats how a society works!! You guys were all made fun of your whole life and you create this music to scare people for retalliation! YOur parents must be proud! oh wait you probably dont have parents! thats why your so messed up in the head!! Thank you to whoever wrote this! love it!!
September 27, 2009 11:22 PM
LOLO said...
MAN...THIS HORRIBLE CRIME HAS BROUGHT SO MUCH HATE OUT ALL ALL SIDES OF THIS DEBATE...LOOK IM A RAP ARTIST/HARDCORE/GANGSTA/HORRORCORE WHAT EVER THE FUCK YOU WANNA LABEL IT,GREW UP POOR IN THE GHETTO LIFE WAS HARD BUT I DIDNT GET PICKED ON OR GROW TO HATE ANY TYPE OF PERSON..MUZIC BECAME SOMETHING I LOVE TO DO...HORRORCORE BECAME MY FAVORITE CUZ I GOT SICK WORD PLAY SKILLS AND THE SICKEST SKILLS ON THE SICKEST BEATS IS ENTERTAINMENT TO ME..MY FOLKZ IN MY CIRCLE WHO SPIT HEAT WITH ME ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE WE WORK HARD OWN HOMES AND HAVE FAMILYS AND TO READ WHAT "Anonymous" SAYS ABOUT HORRORCORE RAPPERS..I DONT DO MUSIC TO SCARE PEOPLE FOR RETALLIATION WTF? THE ANGER YOU SHOW AND CHILDISH REMARKS ABOUT A KIND OF MUSIC YOU REALLY DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT MAKES U LOOK LIKE THE UGLY PERSON WHOS "MESSED UP" IN THE HEAD..IF SAM COMMITED THESE MURDERS THEN FUCK HIM AND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS FOUND GUILTY OF BEING A PART OF THIS HORRIBLE CRIME TO THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE THE FUCK THEM TOO!! BUT WHY POINT THE FINGER AT FOLKS WHO ARE FANS OR ARTIST OF ANY TYPE OF MUSIC WHEN WE REALLY DONT KNOW YET??THESE KIDS TODAY LOVE TO RUN TO THE MOVIES AND WATCH ALL THESE GORY ASS FLIX AND SIT AT HOME AND PLAY VIOLENT AND GORY VIDEO GAMES AND YOU AINT BITCHIN ABOUT THAT??SHIT EVEN THE SOUTHPARK CARTOON GO HARD! VIOLENCE IS EVERYWHERE ANYWHERE YOU TURN..READ THE NEWS PAPER AND ITS FULL OF VIOLENCE..IM GLAD MUZIC IS A HUGE PART OF ME AND IT KEEPS MY HEAD ON STRAIGHT,HORRORCORE OR WHAT EVER..YOUR JUST SCARED OF SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND..IF YOU COULD ERASE HARDCORE RAP FROM THIS WORLD (itll never happen) WE WOULD ALL BE STILL LIVING ON A VIOLENT BLOOD THIRSTY MONEY HUNGRY OVER POPULATED PLANET..I SAY PRAY FOR THE VICTEMS,PRAY FOR JUSTICE,AND FIND LOVE WITHIN YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU...AND IMA BOUT TO GET BACK TO WATCHIN "THE FIRST 48" SOMEBODYS DEAD IN EVERY EPISODE AND IT NEVER HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC EITHER...
September 28, 2009 5:02 PM
SkePtiK said...
Anonymous I am done arguing with you. Obviously you have minimal education and it shows. You can't spell for shit. You capitalize character's for emphasis yet you emphasized nothing. I hope truly hope you can pull your head out of your ass. This day will probably never come yet miracles allegedley exist. Your posts are filled with as much hate as that of our music. Basically your the kettle calling the pot black. Dickhead. ( Does your Religon not teach to love and respect all?) Judge not yet ye be Judged. Any of that sound familiar.
September 28, 2009 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...
ok you call rapping about death murder and rape a talent? The only reason why it sets you asside from every one else is that most people have morals. LoLo you say you have children. If i was your child and grew up around all the shit that "brings out your talent" I would be so fucked up in the head. I have taken many psychology and criminology courses and forensic science is my talent! I do it not becuase im sick and twisted like you dirty fucks. I do it to better the place we live in, and so our children can grow up and be in a safe environment. Scary movies with gore are entertainment, and we know they are fake..but when you rap about murder and rape and killing christians, and how you have great hate for gods children..you are demented and how can one not think you are serious.Poor you for grwoing up poor. try coming from the bronx and then tell me about being poor and in the ghetto. dumb ignorant fool
September 29, 2009 1:02 PM
LOLO said...
I never said I rap about rape or bash any religon or gods children or killing christians,never said I was defending ANYBODY,because this kid killed these people It shed the wrong kind of light on horrorcore,you said youself horror movies is entertainment and to ME rapping about whats in horormovies is just as fake as the movies,lol what the hell are you afraid of? I dont expect YOU to like my music just like you should expect that I dont believe your pathetic lie about YOU takin courses in forensic science,psychology lmfao!!! you wanna bring up my kids but you know nothing about who i am and the type of father i am ,and by the way the bronx isnt no different than oakland brah,Im just speaking out about the music I do and how the media shouldnt blame music for what this kid
did,'anonymous' is so quick to capitalize the word BOOTYHOLE and call me dumb ignorant fool? you have sick ways I can tell..I think you really feel stupid for writing this stupid blog in the first place,pointing fingers waaay to early,your not making any points worth reading just dispaying hate ...god help YOU
September 30, 2009 2:56 AM
Anonymous said...
Do they believe that satan is real?
September 30, 2009 6:58 AM
Anonymous said...
Do you really believe that it is a fake entity that you are singing praises too? satan and demons are just a figment of somebody's imagination and it is just entertainment. The voices that were in Sam's head.... they were just a fairy tale from a twisted young man? When you praise satan do you feel his power coursing through your veins? Do you know that he hates you as much as you hate Christians? Yes, throughout the years he has used people to kill, steal and destroy. It is his job. Has he used Christians? Yes. Some of the examples are mentioned above. Is he using you? One day your allegiance is also going to be called into question. How far will you go for your god? I know that I would give my life for my God. He is very important to me. All I ask is that you question what the truth is. If Satan is for real….. Are you really willing to do what he is going to expect you to do? For some of you it is a game for others you know that it is for real. Be careful and remember there is one that is more powerful and he is one whisper away.
September 30, 2009 7:59 AM
Jesus Christ said...
Well.... I forgive all of you including my followers. Perhaps my flock needs to analyze how melodramatic and judgmental they are being in demonizing this "art form" and an individual who has not yet been proven guilty in a court of law.
-JC
September 30, 2009 8:17 AM
Anonymous said...
Alot of people said "christians kill too" that doesnt make what happend in my small town ok!!! My daughter, who really liked Emma by the way, has to now learn something I never wanted her to know about. We are the ones who have to drive by the house and our little town will never be the same. Its not about blame. We need to stop blaming this or that and just fix the problem. We should all be talking about how to stop this from happening again and not spending so much time on blaming other people. We as a nation need to take responsibilty for what these kids must be going through to be so cold. We have made them that way so if you want to blame someone or something maybe you should look a little closer at yourself.
September 30, 2009 10:42 AM
Anonymous said...
Im 16 and i do horror core rap,to me its like jason and michael meyers movies on cds.Im not a violent person and i hope to write and make horror films in the future as a career.I never heard of horrorcore satanism music till I learned about the farmville killings,its sad and my heart goes out to the victims and theyre familys.And to the people who think horrorcore rappers are bad people you are wrong,the wutang clan started horrorcore not these stupid satanism cults.
September 30, 2009 10:47 AM
Jason said...
I personally think all of this has gone too far. I am a Christian and chaplain candidate in the U.S. Army. To be honest with everyone here I fear no one, but God. As the music might be distasteful to me, I believe this to be an isolated incident. If it were not the case then are we not hearing about this thing daily? The media loves picking up a story and carrying it as far as it can go. Believe it or not I love all people including those who rap about killing Christians. Matthew 5:38 – 48: 38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. 43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those
who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
I tend to practice what I preach and most “horror core” rappers (I’m sure they feel the same way about Christians) are misguided. A pure example is the posting above that refers to “Judge not least ye be judged” Matthew 7:1, but they take it out of context. The Bible says “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” (Basically we will be judge in the same measure we judge others). If anything the Bible tells us to judge righteously.
September 30, 2009 1:26 PM
Anonymous said...
It is so easy to dismiss actions such as these and blame it on music, television , and black clothes. We don't want to know why he really did it. We teach are young people to hate everyday. We preach intolerence for other races and religons. These horrific crimes are a reflection of our society. To blame it on music is just another way to distance ourselves from such people and their crimes but the truth is this kid was a child of america. The real statement here is that ignorant american's actually except music or movies as reasons for such murders. The victims deserve more.
September 30, 2009 1:38 PM
LOLO said...
FINALLY,Now the last 6 comments posted were all worth reading,makes me think..why do I keep coming back to this blog? I know im not here to argue or point the finger at anybody,maybe im searching for anwsers within myself,I know we cant fight hate and anger with hate and anger....
September 30, 2009 7:56 PM
jason said...
LOLO,
I agree that people on here and around the world miss the point about many things, but the best thing anyone can do is look at all sides of the issue. Why does horror core make so many references about killing? What is the point of killing anyone? (I know you said you don’t, but many in the field do) Both my wife and I have been on active duty tours and I can tell you seeing people killed, hollering, screaming for their lives is no joke. I’ve seen many people take their last breathes and pass on. People come into the military hospital with their faces burnt, leg missing, shrapnel injuries. I find that many do not understand the Christian way of life (even some who profess to be Christians). The Christian church might have had its bad moments (over 400 – 500 years ago+), but so has every other religion. Stalin (who was an atheist) killed over 2 million people and communist (atheistic) countries over the last century has killed tens of millions of people. It’s not religion that kills people; its people that do. I grew up poor as well. All my “friends” were aspiring rappers and rapped about anything and everything. I liked their music and it’s all we would do every day, but one day something was weighing heavy on my heart and not long afterward I accepted Jesus into my life. REGARDLESS of what anyone tells you, not one Christian is perfect. We all fall short of the glory of God. All Christians sin or have sinned and probably will sin again before they pass on. We are all human. The difference between our religion and other religions is that you are not saved by works, but by faith. Most other religions you have to work, do well according to so and so, or kill the infidel (those who will not convert) to make it to heaven/nirvana/or whatever place that religion believes. In Christianity there is only one thing and that is believing in Jesus as lord and accepting him into your heart. Many look at the old testament of the Bible (the law) and it scares them away, but when Jesus died for everyone (lost and saved) we were under a new covenant/new testament known as the age of grace. I realized that rapping, drinking, and partying was not the life for me, I became a new creature; all things are passed away behold all things are new (2 Corinthians 5:17). Many will say God isn’t real, Jesus was some lunatic, but I cannot describe to you the many miracles I have seen in the field I am in. God has done extraordinary things in my life I never thought possible as he can in anyone else’s. I personally do not think anyone is bad. I do think there are people out there lost and going to Hell, but I know that God gives everyone the opportunity to be saved. If you have any questions you or anyone else can write me anytime: [email protected]
John 15:12 – 17 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants,
because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 17This is my command: Love each other.
October 1, 2009 7:41 AM
Teresa said...
Jason, that is so awesome that you would tell the truth and you have a gift in writing. I also am a Christian. I do not usually write online about anything because it seems useless. I also believe that you need to live who you say that you are. What good am I if I say that I am a Christian and I harbor hate in my heart? I can’t help anybody like that. Do I make mistakes? Oh Yeah!!! I am not perfect by no means. In November, I watched my brother take his last breathe. He was 42 years old. It broke my heart and nothing about it was funny. I can’t imagine myself or any other person taking pleasure in killing another human…. I believe it is against our nature. I also believe that we try to make problems have human form so that we can fix it. Some things are not human and we can’t fix it. We are in a fight. That fight is not with Sam.... He is a child. A vessel that has been used. Guess what....we can all be used...Christian or Not. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Know your enemy. It’s not the Christian or any other person. The enemy is satan and demons. They are very real. “This reminds us that the true nature of the fight is spiritual, not carnal and our enemies are spirits and not other people! When you are in a battle that involves other people, bind the spirits and pray for the other people.”
October 1, 2009 12:07 PM
Jason said...
Teresa,
Thanks for the comment. I know there is a battle being waged for our souls. I cannot say why Sam or anyone would do something such as what happened because I sincerely do not know. I do; however, know that who we hang out with and look up to does influence us (Sociologist call these reference groups). God knows this and that’s why we see in the bible such
verses as 2 Corinthians 6:14. I try not to preach to people, but instead to encourage them. I want everyone to know that with God nothing is impossible. The people that know me say I’m always happy, but inside I’m sad a lot. Not because of anything happening to me, but because there are so many people in the world bullied, belittled, lonely, and hopeless. Many people get angry with God for the way the world is, but it is us via lust of the flesh and free will that do these things. In today’s humanist world it’s all about self-help, self-esteem, and self-awareness. We as a world are too focused on ourselves and less focused on our neighbors. On some real stuff I want everyone to know that no matter what problems you face, no matter what comes your way, no matter how down you might be, God has a plan for you. Christianity is not about being weak minded, it’s not about taking a blind leap of faith, it’s about having a relationship with a loving God who will supply all your needs. I am happy for you Teresa because you not only are my neighbor, but you are my sister in Christ. I encourage everyone that reads this that is sad, lonely, helpless, hopeless, or lost to seek God. Luke 11:10 says “every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.” I am always here also and I don’t care who hit’s me up via email: [email protected] I’ll be praying for you all.
Matthew 11:28-30 28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
October 1, 2009 1:45 PM
CFK said...
JasonI like a lot of what you wrote in your first couple of responses. You were tolerent and open minded, two qualities that more human beings could use. You express your faith but don't damn others. For me my head says atheist and my heart says agnostic. So I was intigued by your writings as a lot of Christians I know are very close minded and generally mean spirited about other people who's lifestyles they don't agree with. The extreme gay bashing really comes to mind. Along with the fact that Mitt Romey could have made a fine president but the evangelical right would never accept a Morman man running the country. To me it doesn't matter because Joeseph Smiths first vision is no more absurd than any passage in the Bible or Koran. In my mind none of them can be proven so it boggles my
mind there is so much hatred of people for believing in a different god. This includes the hatred and fear of Laveyan Satanist who as near as I can tell are the ultimate narciccist and only worship themselves. So after all this rambling my original point was a staement you made in your last comment. God has a plan for evryone. That is probably for me my single least favorite thing about Christianity. Why do so many Christians let responsibilty for themselves fall into the hands of another. It drives me nuts when things go wrong due to someone screwing uo and they say "God has a plan for me" It just takes away all responsibilty from the individual and to me is a staement of weakness. I guess you could argue that your faith is so strong that you know evrything will be ok because "God had a plan for me" Did God have a plan for these murder victims? I can't imagine his plan for the Neiderbrock family was always that they would be murdered by some sick bastard in their own home. They let this kid in their home and he killed them. Nobody planned on that happening except maybe Sam. So anyway if you are still reading like I said I think you are a great person and you wrote some really nice sentiments, I was just wondering on your whole God has a plan thoughts?
October 1, 2009 7:41 PM
Nihilist said...
YOU STUPID X-TIANS ARE CLUELESS.
SUCK MY ****
October 1, 2009 8:19 PM
Jason said...
CFK,Putting your trust in God is not a weak thing. We will all be accountable for what we do. The bible mentions it many times; Matthew 12:36 (But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.) and Ecclesiastics 12:14 are two right off the top of my head. I don’t think I’m necessarily more tolerant and open minded, but rather I am truly saved (which is key). Matthew 7:21-23 lets us know that not all who profess to be Christians will make it to heaven. Now I will go into your question. When something bad happens I know I will be okay because God said he will provide all your needs according to his riches in Christ Jesus. I’m not trying to pass off responsibility or not be held accountable. If anything we will be accountable for everything we
say and everything we do (for Christians this is everything you do after you are saved). God; however, does have a plan and purpose for each and every one of us. Wither we follow it or not is or own choice. Epheisians 1:11 states: 11In him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will. The main point’s- God has a plan/will; God knew us before we were born, and God knows everything we will do, everything we will say, and knew how many days we will live before you or I were born. Even though God knows what we will do in advance he still gives us the free will to choose.
It is honestly not my place to say if these tragedies were “planned” by God. Certainly he knew about it before anyone else did. Certainly God could have stopped it, but Sam had a choice and obviously Sam made the wrong choice. He will be accountable and have to answer for that choice unless he becomes saved (once you are saved everything you done beforehand is washed away and will not even be brought up at judgment). Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess Jesus Christ as Lord (Philippians 2:10-11) on judgment day. The important part is that we do it on this side of eternity because it is appointed unto men to die once after that judgment.I hope I have not confused you. If you need me to explain further just ask (I think the main point’s sums it up kind of well). Thanks for the compliments and I hope you start running into better Christians and not equate the actions/words of those who proclaim Christianity with the religion itself. I used to be agnostic, but as you can see that all has changed. I wish you the best.
In Christ,
Jason
October 1, 2009 9:59 PM
Jason said...
Nihilist,
Why are you so upset at Christians and were does telling people to suck your **** get you in life? Does it make you feel good or warm and fuzzy inside to put others down? You say we are clueless, but you do not drop the slightest hint of what you are referring to (which leaves me clueless to what you are talking about). I would like to understand where you are coming from :-) .
October 1, 2009 10:08 PM
NIHILOSER said...
YOU HORRORCORE ARE NIGGER WANNA-BE'S. YOU ARE JUST STUPID, HOMOSEXUALIZED AMERICAN WHITE TRASH.
CHRISTIANS ARE MORONS BUT AT LEAST THEY GET JOBS AND EDUCATIONS AND BELEIVE IN LIFE AND NOT DEATH.
PHEONIZ
October 2, 2009 2:49 PM
BIG HEART & BARENUCKLES said...
Hey NIHILOSER,HORRORCORE RAPPERS COME IN MANY RACES YA DUMBFUKK,WHITETRASH SATANIST HORRORCORE ARE JUST THE SHITWIPES OF THE BUNCH,IM NOT BLACK NOR WHITE NOR HORRORCORE,I DONT EVEN RAP IM JUST A CONCERNED AMERICAN,ONLY COWARDS LIKE YOUR RASIST ASS WOULD WASTE YOUR USELESS LIFE TALKING SHIT ON A COMPUTER LOL!!I BELIEVE IN LOVE NOT HATE,LIFE NOT DEATH,THERES NO WAY ID EVER WANT TA KILL ANYBODY,BUT I WOULDNT MIND KNOCKING A RASIST COWARD LIKE YOU FLAT ON HIS ASS! LMFAO!!!
October 2, 2009 5:15 PM
cfk87 said...
If God knows everything we will do in advance then we do not have the free will to choose. He has predetermined our destiny and we are just carrying out the masterplan. I say no way to that. Stand up for the choices you make, good or bad. Learn from the bad and revel in the good, but know you made those choices. And to the point that Sam can be saved. Bullshit. He murdered four innocent people and just by saying he takes Christ as his savior does not undo what he did. That is an easy way out. Sorry to say but his life is fucked forever. Just ask the family members of the dead if accepting Jesus Christ as his savior makes everything ok?
October 2, 2009 8:32 PM
Jason said...
CFK,
We do have free will. I think I might not have explained it correctly. God might know everything we will do in advance, but he allows us to make our choices. Just because he knows what we will do doesn’t mean we didn’t make the choice and it doesn’t mean we won’t be held accountable at judgment.
Also, God is an awesome God. There is no sin to big that God cannot forgive. If God can forgive a liar, a fornicator, a thief, and millions of people then why can he not forgive a murderer? If Sam truly gets saved (which is not just “saying Christ is his savior”) then ALL sin in his past will be forgiven and he will enter the kingdom of God. That’s not my opinion; that’s Biblical. No one on this earth has the say on wither he will be saved; that is between Sam and God.
Colossians 3:12-15 12Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
October 3, 2009 7:47 AM
SkePtiK said...
I just want to say that I have mad respect for this cat Jason. You wrote some things that had me thinking. Personally I am atheist I beleive in myself and science. I was turned away from religon because of the blantant fakeness that I say every day from "christians". LOLO props homie on your posts too. LOLO I don't know if you already go but you should join up at Juggalonews. I work on the staff there and it is a pretty open minded place.
October 3, 2009 7:15 PM
LOLO said...
SkePtiK
Thanx,we ride in tha same boat as far as being a believer in SCIENCE,so many different religons and beliefs on who GOD is,I was never exposed to just one and never followed any and rarely have ive been in a church.I dont hate or look down on anybodys beliefs..to each his own,I believe in myself and know im a good person and sorround myself with good people and family,ive done music all my life,my main thing is lyrical word play,tung twistin with a HORRORCORE eliment to it.I dont expect everybody to like my music but the people who do, love it....am I atheist?I dont know but I believe my vision of who/what GOD is different from everybodys,I believe LOVE is god and its in us ALL,I dont believe in satan but I do believe evil exsist..is there really a HEAVEN or HELL?Untill somebody comes back from DEATH and let us know what either place was like im gonna have to say NO,IM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYBODY AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR EVERYBODYS BELIEFS...and im not trying to be sarcastic but science proves in ways that MAN evolved from apes...does that mean that ADAM & EVE were monkeys?? IM JUST ASKIN PEOPLE..lol..
I too have respct for JASON and what he has to say..but i also agree with CFK87..SAM has to pay for what hes done and hes already living in his own HELL...
And I too respect what JASON
October 3, 2009 11:43 PM
Jason said...
LOLO and Skeptik,
Hey! Thanks for the props, but really I’m just here to spread the truth. I’m glad you guys believe in science because it means I have common ground with both of you. I too use to not believe in God, I too use to believe in science, and I too use to not hate my church and Christianity because of the way other Christians were. Science is a great area because I’m getting my Masters degree in apologetics :-)
ScienceJust under 4 months ago I was in a discussion room like this, but for school. The subject of evolution came up and my history teacher (who was agnostic) told everyone evolution was a “fact”. I myself do not believe in evolution and from there the debate began. Scientist can prove microevolution, but not macroevolution which many people get confused. There are many problems wrong with evolution. There are
many fundamental things scientist cannot answer. “How did non-living matter become living matter,” for instance is one. Secondly no scientist has ever saw, found a way, or have knowledge of anything adding or deleting chromosomes to their DNA for the evolution process to actually work like they say. RNA, DNA, and the like do not just come together and start forming cells. This is why I classify evolution as a belief. I can go deeper into details (depending on the level of knowledge you guys have about the subject), but for time sake I’ll cut to this chase. By the end of our class I had completely changed the mind of my professor. Regardless of how many or who believes evolution doesn’t make it true. There are still hundreds of flaws off the top of my head I could say about evolution. I left two links for you guys because I believe it is good to know all sides. I studied evolution and science (as I think Christians should), but I also like to let others know our side too. http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/the-lie/chapter2.asp http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/hasnt-evolution-been-proven
ChristiansLOLO there was someone who came back from the dead. His name was Jesus Christ. I understand what you are saying completely as well as Skeptik; however, I wouldn’t base religion off of what other people do. I’ve studied Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam because I think it’s important to have some knowledge of what others believe. There are many different beliefs in Christianity because people do not read the Bible correctly, as I mentioned in an earlier post. God is not the author of confusion. I am the way I am because I follow the Bible, not other people. People are imperfect and people make mistakes. Real talk, if I never talk to you guys again just remember God loves you all. No sin is too big for God not to forgive; not even Sam’s. If any of you knew my life story you’d be amazed, but remember God take’s us all just the way we are. I’m not asking or demanding any of you to think the way I do, but one day when you come to that intersection and feel alone, feel abandon, or feel hurt just remember God has always loved you, God can take your life and turn it around (like mine) and do the most remarkable things with it.
Revelation 21: 3 -4 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
October 4, 2009 7:31 AM
I LOVE THIS SONG! <3 said...
i am sick!i am wicked!i will make u all my victems!i am hate!i am vicoise!i will kill all cristians!i am life!i am death!i will steal ur holy breath!i am satan!i am evil!i will kill gods people!!!!
so catchey!
[{(*~Dances~*)}]
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i kill kill kill kill!!!
October 4, 2009 1:08 PM
Anonymous said...
Well jesus did tell him to do it, i like how they take the shittiest horrorcore rappers and say this is horrorcore rap. I listen to OTHER groups and havnt heard kill all christians or any thing about rape out of 1000 songs. they just focus on these wanna be SKR rappers who suck dick anyway, wanna be bitches.
"We print then press, they copyLike zerox machine stoppingLike mindless machines drop itPut us down find unknown topicYou're wicked, you're so bloodyDon't stop there bleed all our moneyYou'll think they're all just dummiesI don't find it one bit funny"
"We in the pole position,While you studying compositionThe competition got me blueprints to see what's missingLike a game of Simon Says but I never said SimonSplash a little paint on their face and start rhymingYou're definition of MC, is most crappyAnd lie up on my latest cd's so you can jack meI'm not the hero, I'm the one you all hateResinned and recapture everything that you emulate"
"Between us and them we lead, ya'll followin'Cause you all know that ya'll fake like some collagen"
Taken from the song Follow the Leader by Dark Lotus they obviously dont appreciate copy cats to there music that give it a bad name. TRUE HORRORCORE
October 4, 2009 1:44 PM
Big Rela said...
SNITCHTANICK IS A PUSSY.
October 4, 2009 6:49 PM
REAL HORRORCORE said...
THAT SICKTANICK SONG SUCKS,I AGREE THESE WEAK COWARD ASS FAKE WANNABES FROM SERIAL KILLIN RECORDS AINT REAL HORRORCORE..THE MEDIA GOT IT WRONG...SICKTANICK IS A RAT
October 4, 2009 9:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Is there any more information on the story it self?
October 5, 2009 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
All I have to say I never heard of horrorcore before today. It's weird, it's hateful and it sounds stupid. I think it should be illegal and punished as a
hate crime. As a woman I'm outraged. As a human I'm outraged. You guys are seriously sick. Get help.
Oh and please learn how to spell. "i am vicoise!" That's not even a word dumb fucks. Maybe if you all hadn't dropped out of highschool cause you were all outcasts and weirdos and felt hated on you would've actually learned that killing is wrong and vicoise is actually spelled vicious.
And as an educated person, I'm going to make an educated guess that this syko sam loser was a "martyr" for these horrorcore losers. No one had ever heard of you yesterday. No one will remember you tomorrow. Was it worth it?
October 6, 2009 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm an older dude and as such, I have to see this in a few ways.
I am a Christian but have been other religions over the course of many years. As a teenager I grew up listening to a lot of music. I am musically very open minded. I personally hate christian music and find most of it rather boring. I don't really like Horrorcore or ICP, but love the Gravediggaz. Which let's face is... is basically the same shit. I know if I was a teenager and hated the fuckin world I probably would have been into Horrorcore as well as Death Metal. In fact I know I would have been. I too hated the world at one point. (still do even now.) I suck as a Christian.. but thats why I ask God to forgive me. It is simply a matter of what one chooses to believe. People even if they hate your choice should have enough respect for one another as people to agree to disagree. Hate on either side is futile. Respect and understanding will always win in the end.
Thats the main point of this post... If SKR are this satanic cult and do all sorts of ill shit.... Then what makes their right to practice the religion of their choice any less important than your right to be a Christian? The people who are attacking SKR may or may not have a point. I don't know them and don't claim to.
The violent anti-christian death to christians thing in music has been around as long as Metal has been around. The PMRC thought we should ban everything... Rap, Metal, Punk, shit... That was the 80's. There will always be people who want a PG society. People who don't want smoking in bars and bike trails from one end of town to the other.
The idea of banning someone's right to watch a violent movie or a style of music because one person or even a few people might be involved in is dangerous to EVERYONE'S freedoms and liberties. The police will more than likely find out what actually happened.
If you don't like Horrorcore...just don't listen to it or hang out with people who do. If "sicktanic" is a bad guy... eventually that will come out. Things like that tend to come to light when there are 4 dead people involved and a crime scene so fucked nobody will talk about it. This is America and people will always think what they think, but it is still innocent until proven guilty.
Horrorcore is to rap what splatter punk is to books. Deathmetal has been around a lot longer and has said just about everything you can say about gutting someone or hating christians. If you watched Hostel, Saw, or Se7en... you have no right to complain about Horrorcore or any other music for that matter.
Horrorcore fans, don't hate on Christians because even though most do not agree with your right to write music the way you do, but like racism. You can't judge the actions of all by the actions of some. Here I am, a person you all hate defending your right to make the style of music you want. Interesting how freedom of speech and religion make for some interesting friendships.
I'll finish with this.... " The world is full of idiots, the Church is no exception."
October 6, 2009 9:04 PM
LOLO said...
Anonymous who wrote "The world is full of idiots,the church is no exception"
I completely agree with your post,the lady above you displayed hate towards something she knows nothing about,HORRORCORE.I am a horrorcore artist but NOT the type of music playing in this blog,this horrible crime shed light on satanist type rappers and the MEDIA is calling THAT music HORRORCORE,That upsets me..I am a very open minded person when it comes to music. Everybodys looking for something to blame this crime on and its easy to to blame the music,if SAM was a violent video game player who was known to do nothing but play video games then everybody would wanna blame violent video
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games,let the courts do theyre jobs and end the end we will know the truth,horrorcore is NO different than horror movies,I personaly think its more disturbing to actually SEE killings on a motion picture than to listen to it in a rap or song..and yes i love horror movies too.
but anonymous I just wanted to you props for being open minded and looking at this subject from all points of views and explaining how you feel in the realist way with out diplaying HATE anger,racism ..Thats real talk.
October 6, 2009 10:56 PM
Synn said...
Aight, look. I ken Emma, Mel, and Sam. Yeah, sam was cool, but he committed a terrible tragedy, and there's no escaping that. I'm a horrorcore artists, and Itook my turn under the microscope, and had attacks thrown my way on Myspace and on the street. My lable has been gracious enough to stand by me, but that's not my issue. My issue uis this: there's a large gap here, did they ever release why it was committed? whyat Drove Sam to do ithis? Not to my knowledge. YOu wanaa know some shit? talk to my homie Rela.
October 7, 2009 12:11 PM
james said...
I always suspected horrorcore just existed for white trash teenagers/ageing overweight Mcdonalds employees to listen to instead of learning to read/going to school because they aren't smart enough to understand other genres of music.All the coverage of this crime confirmed that suspicion.
October 8, 2009 12:26 AM
james said...
by the way I forgot to mention that im gay,I hate horrorcore so much but I LOVE a BIG sausage in me...love JAMES
October 8, 2009 3:04 AM
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