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Page 1: I Ro>r.·•-~ {b,-?r~ (J~ If We•t.r''• Or Ck.. · PDF file2 ary 8th , 1960 . I b n Sa • ud r ep l1ecl tha t he wo u ld o onl!cle r U, If It CAn!! t o hla •• a tire o::.ro

.$a,. cJ.( I Ro>r.·•-~ {b,-?r~ f3 (J~ If

We•t.r"'""'• Or Ck..-.

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THE WHITE HOUSE

WAS HING TON

Harob 8, 1944

M~:MOI\AIIDUk FOR

T!IIC Pltr\!JID 8M't

I eav Kenr1 Korsenthau laat night anCI VI dliOUIIed whAt 10\1 hAd lttld abJ>Ut Ibn Ba 'uc1 lUll lntltUng t lla ' he lllltl been ott ere<! a bribe.

1•• bo t h •Kretd thnt U wo uld be well to hnnd you the aUnohod oop;r or " loner wh1oh Dr. ilel&aann ~tent to Uuanar 1tell•• lo1t I>eoeaber, expla1n1na t h h whole 11tun t1on and g lv1nu t he raot• "" he knowe t hem.

The lett e r vne eent t o Mr. Wallet w1 t h t he 14ea t h"' t he ehov 1 t to you but ! do no t ltnow whether he di d.

n1ere 1e nleo uttaohed IXOerptl from a etate~ont eent t o Dr. Wel&aann by Mr. llt. John ?hll by, who 11een~e t o have ueen t he pr1no1pAl notor ln tho tranB~ot1Jn.

!1, I , R. Dr . Ch. Wc1 ?.~ann, 7?, Gr ent Ruase11 St. London, 'to'. C .1. 12/13/43 H. St. J. Phl lby . re ncqu1s1 t1on or part of Pa1est~ne for the Jews .

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PJ:IlSOII Al. ••11roh il , 1914

JeAr Henry:

I l~~<ve t,;lven t o the l"re81<1ent t he e n­oloouree ln Pr. lle l :tautnn ' e lett~tr o r Jonunr y f ourth, to trl. t , thP. copy o r llr. W&lzetnnn ' a 1 e t t or t o :lumner l'lel l A a, <111 ted Deoeaber t h1r­t oenth, on<t the ... n aohell oxourpt a troro o Rtlltonent f rom Mr. Ph1lb:1 t o Pr. :leh mnnn , dn t ect No vember sev ent eenth.

I (11d no t want t o t1tke t llllc to oske cop1eo ot t he:u , so I wmder lt you o?uld ~end rnn o c opy ot t hese jlApcr n m11dc tr:>m t he c opy in ;.nur poseei!Bl o n b ecnuRe I ~_,

no t eup1>0se l tt111 t;et t h em back f r ol!l t l. e Pr co1<ient and ! l<'::luld lllce t o hA ve .~y f1le c:>mpl e te.

• tul:t t hanks.

Very elncerely ,

HMU~:J, I. Rulll\l i~IAll

The Hon.>r nble , The Bear e t ary o f the Tr e11aury , \ neh ln&t on, D. c .

SIR/TI~B

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TH E SECAETA A Y OF TH E T REASURY

W A 8H I N 0 TON

March 10, 1944,

De:Jr Se.:n :

In reply tc you~ l~~ter o~

'~reb 8th, I hav~ had a photJstatic

you l:ave llShd far , and I an senring

it ~o you hur ~itt .

lionorabh Sar-u'!l I. Rosrn.l'!lal. , mhe '.'rhilt House , ·aashingt~ll. , D.c.

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•ion . ~umner w. n .. .

"""r t' r. S\Ullller 'Nelleft.

It W1\0 wi 4:-h tlfl !!J'I) r -r-.,.et ~flt I lor\r .. Jnd. or yuur- lrB--Jin, the Dept\l"t ­

:r .. ,t o"' ~tate . 1 "-opt~ ·1')11 .. "1"' '1 ... nr ~- 13'*' ...... T tl,..;Ll\u~ ::ou, even ll.OW, wi~

t\ r.\'\",t~r dlcC.l.U\410d b-'tw•oa. u" r.iltt ,,u ..,e,..., in cftJ t. J for I c~.ou1d J.ike 1t

'n .,, br o., .h~ tc- t it" a • r.nt1nn of ti-e Preoldenll, -.nd lf y··~ • r o ITil.inC " ' do

..., •'>1a creal: urvlce , I feel thl\t no on~ '.& ar f'D il " "'!llllintee "~ t:o t he s u:.­

j e .:..t a ~·ot.. e.re yo \!"SO ~.c .

:~ . \ot: w\ll do\oobtlo•e r er--« bt•r t"".t .. ~·l .. •tf'...- ~,) r:.,rve rltttionc w!.th you

I r:nno.ioneJ a SC'horJ£ 1...,r a J•r i a h- r8.b 'l. r--· , .. . , .;»r i t .... tly ?·,t o me by r.

s~ • .!c.jan i'Hhy, t-.e welt-known .li'e.blt\n tr.ovellor and ~n'toln •· , .t.,o I" t1 per -

3•,::..1 a.'.· !.,•l'kl ot X\..M Ib:.t Sa ' UfJ . Thic l brit'l"ly :r n~n '~ j tc 1.:'\C. .. N • W nt when

r he.d t he h onour 11f • "d!l(; htm. lle.y 1 ,...-1!:1 l'O" •f 1 t. c t n outll.ne ? D1o

Arab~ ohoul d r •• l1nqu1eh Paler lno wee t of' th• Jcr~?u to tho Jera !f', P.t t hat

price , cueplete lnd~pvndoLce ia aoour 1 to •o ~ I n all other ~~~ la~o in Aaia •

...r . ?">ilby enviaa,;ed cona ider•'>la f::raour,-, of ~,.,.;, ;-; , .at; ' on, a nd a ooo;panoa­

tton of £20 ,00•) , tNO l'fl\4 t.n be ;>aid t11 l'bn 91\ ' ud . \n•nn ..,. • Philhy fua 1o d ie­

cu!J wed. ~hie &chCIIIIWJ .vit.t uc in 1' .o r t • ~--- .,r l !l~,.. , :...t t',~ .lr IHluc~ o.&. my oolloasue

,a-. l.tonier, we r<~1ied I.e. ,I Wl") , ttc.r.c'"'r i:tl•·\· ::' ~\r.d , will b~ f.!ble to aeet

·~,., l'inanoial burden, ur ITi·inl .>~•rt '"" lJ '·o·.,. ·o 1..''"' <;•.o t'~>t1:1 oi' l'!l.lutinian

go:x.a, or work on larO:: to be rifi''", t'pcc! !'or r - c 1 l.,.,.' t oi An.ba . ~U'll the

political part of the progr,_ could only t>e lJtple:ocnted by Groat Bri cain find

the un l..,ed Statu .

6 . In the t4 llt with the .':-•o-.lo::t :,001. •"f ostecl e endla.; olo2l Hoelclna

t o lHf\l Jr.n St~. 'ud . 1 i'olt rc l.1ctaut to CtJtt,. .. dU! r-y ~o~b•: . b-.:~ , n.!"\.o r ,,aretul

COn.lidcr a tlcn . f Wrot f': tc, '\fOU Jft'1r.- '"!'.~in._. tht> !>rO~Jf)O.,'' t.'h " 1 00 btJl;'\ \08 l \alow

,;o}0'\"1 los tins tO CO n b• lo' l'ftl 0 I~ Of -. ...... t• )' ,fith .:>ur oa ISO . "'ho position

wt.th r4,:a 1"<\ to l iln 9,, ' oJd N&e <>~tro. "'l.1 dto •• c f.jt , .a,; \v~ ..... 'l :co> !'r'"" the en­

otnaacl l~•t.,r j'r "' •:."· 1:1l'by, ho '•:tJ ;>U~ '• lu UIIII''MO ~.'oro ~n 1 !\ 1 11•1 on Janu-/"-ry

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ary 8th , 1960. I bn Sa • ud r ep l1ecl tha t he would oonl!cle r U, If It CAn!! t o hla •• a tire o::.ror • but that he woulci disa"TOW • Pbl lbj• it t '- '-• att1 ttde wu pr..,.tunly 41\"\ll;ecl . Clearly 1-o l carecl oponJ~ IWooe lt to a ttaol< by r hale i.ll tho .ln.b worl d Oil &OOOWit Of ll echCM w!oloh l:ll.(ht ,_,,..r r • a 'lh th• ot a t e of praotloa l oono l clor atlon.

4 , Art u l oavlnt; ollnor 1ca lut J\Jllll I 'hoard no .,oro until tho • nd ol Ootober , when Colone l llos ldJ:>a OAA,. to oee ""' horoH"""e tiJMe 1n ll.,..elllber. He t old ro that ho had boon to Ar&bta and hac! "her o heo.rcl ,·or t he tl.r e t tiae abou• \lw i'hilby e ch••· !!o r •port•d li.ng Ibn 8& 1ud ao ba rl"'l opo'-en with r:rou bl\ tor o .. e a bout ... declar ln& ~et t had •ont !..'r . Philby to Ma With tho o t !'or ot a bribe , ooh lch no control")' to hle honour, ;>at r1ottao a nd ,.~11< 1 •>11 1 and •.hat he hd turnod ilr . Ph!lby out , ancl wo"l~ not r eceive h~ in Arabia apln. Colonol l!ool<lne a llo reported Ibn Sa• ud ao oay l nr; tlia t t111 £20,000 , 000 wao t o be " ""r11nt ood by tho UdHed 3~aha, Col onel !!ool<l.l.IAI tar ther intormed mo t hat Ibn Sa 1 u4 had .. ,., a wri:coa a tate,.n~ to the l'roeldt:lt in • '>Joh ~·,. , PhJlby ia allut\84 to, b\lt not ow;ud .

~ . The . .. aert1oo abeut t~o \Jn1t ecs Sutae uar ant:>e fer t~ .. •.)f)TWY OOJapctn• cat' \o n .. , obvi'lualy \ J.,.aod ~'m a rlloc:ncttpt ~ nn •Hif!1ewhel"o (see " boYe, 9'U"ASHph 2) . 1 s houlll. bo prot'ourdly cilotroaaed 1t tiH i' ru1dont tbou~ht I '"d ''*""' hb n&~nr 1n this oont1oot 1on. ~Nhtah f.!ft.l nover tho os••• P'urtlt::tr , l wam Atftonieh.ct by w'at Colonel aoo kina r oportocl Ibn s~· ud to ~-·-.•~1d Lbout ~r. Philby, a e I Jato •• ,1-.,_t 1• . ~11\.ly '- ad r .!"Mincd A. ':H~5t of t'te f l..n.r for qllite Jw.)(" a ye&r a.rtc;r ·.a\·in. !'u .. "»1• ache;• teror o ~u.. . i • • t' e t"et'or6 r eliend tbe nex\ tiM I """t !:r.lo,..l ..,.,kino to :O i oconr •!'.a t tile ,..oort ot .llr. :bilby' a d hora<o l)a4 boon "'"rol y Colo110l >& ltl.Do • o-.m clo.d~oUon: h. oai~ M c ,Jld not iroa;;l ne that the Yll\, 01>,110 '010 1<'0"" buck ll r.:&\n r hO had 8UC, Ol ted 10 dio1:aa tot'\l) a O¢htme. l.zo , :ru,r;it"r 1\r...! I d.!.ooU11 1od the. t:.a.lter t"l•.,kly ll-\th ,.,.. • .Philty, r.ho -..,,., a lso s een Col onolftod:inc alo,.. Hr . <'hllby'o viow { u you wi ll see trn01 t~ • ., ~noloen,.. ) b t!lo.t · olor.bl :oui~e • llliso1on l ett ... rtera 101uoh ao they eto<n . a:>cl ~hat i t tt'• or ltldal •ohe~Se wu o!-"'1.!':-¥:1 to Jbn ~a•\11 on .,oh&l~ of tha ?r·• s lden~ and l r . Cburoh11l, it wo~d be accepted .

(, . f;'bon wu 1D \a:::ritt-. )(OV ,.ro r,f>Cl ono1•nh tC\ diaoua• " L' h me •t l enc'h th• Jal .. >.i n" q•.,r.tlon . ! ~ope t ·ot yrll have> no t: lMt toll" t"tcroat l.n ftlU t111• i.an a. ' a i rs wl-1ch tfl,\ie mo 4 C• ll'uch C"nctour o• er~"~rt'tl t'IJ c'l pll'fkePr f' . :•ay I FUt my vlo'41 tx-ror,. )"t1U ot~Ce ur~ in aneoie.l rcntt."'~"~1t'\n "' 'l t)'- r . fMib> ' • •cho:'l'lltf It 11 concul.-....1 on bi& ll.aea, larn enoorh to e t1a.ty t~.e lo(;it1Mte ao pirationo ot Arab. a.a! J-lf·· at\! tho 3t1"'D.te,lo &ad 8t"OQ~(" int eret.te or l~ ni!-~4 StatM and :.r1tal..n. In~ bol1•t. non ot t"'• tr"='blo::t o~ tl-J'\ :. ~~.ile Ct.et O&!! btt • tteo­tiftly .. ettlecl pi•oaeal, but only by t r ...... ,., t"'tm. ae " L'lr•r-e ... ted whole. The world b doeply lntor ~toe! !.n oolvi, t~ ,.,...,, nh .,.,oblo, tho ovonii•"'L: inC ma jorl t of the Je•re tl,~elvoa d-'&~M e Je 1ah Co:r..M.,ntnl'lth in J'1\1ttll~41""'• a.ad a x(leu11 1ta oatauLI.o...,.,Dt <o ~l'l .. liJu t:•• pooitl •n -.1: ,:, .. , h t~ Dho•ra lant t~e Anbo d• ­or.uol 0<*19leto l:>Jo;>endo::ce a nd t ui,,. "o M~\1,.. un!\)•.

1. Jt L'- tOrl4 aup;-or\a the J"' 1n ··~ l r do~.d tor Yalea ~L= tt-~at ot ~· Jordan, let U• Ana.ba conn•J• J": All .c. quH .;·r~ )UO .lor: t 1lf . l:ienb ~: their

/olatrn.

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olo.b•• eYOrywhero eloe. Ow- herito.z~ IJ\ Palu t1ne - • out down to the bone .men 'l'rano jor dan ... a aep..rated in ltl22. ';Yh&t io lert io clearly a univ , ur:l t'urther ~rtHion of it l<oul<\ depr 1'"' tho •ott lCIJIIent oi' finality . It the who!.a of' Western P'a~oat.iw' is l &i't to ua , we olan t p carry out a Jordan Development Scheme ouse;ooted t o uo by .\ll>dr ica.D expert• . 'thio would o.l•o bene-1'1t tho Arao lur:l on the we otcm oo.olc, and h oi lit. to t r o.nefere of popula­tion . J. acheoe on s uch U. r&e linea would be voatly hel ped by tho backing or an outetttruling persona lity l n t~e 1\rab world s uc h o.e Ibn Sa' ud . I thore-foro feel , in a;>Ho 0 4' Colonol lloalc1no ' advor ae re port, that, properly mtu>a~ed , lb-. Pnilbr' • •che>111e <>rte.-e an npproo.oh which s hould not be a bur:lon­ed without turther expl o.-t:on.

Snol oeW"o .

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.......... It •••, I uui<l, on January 8th, l 9t 0 - a fu.. day• a ft• r rey re-

turn to Arabia - t hat I co-niuted "th• pla n • t o t ll.o lin;;. Thoro •••

notbinc 'lfhataoe.ar to prvYOnt hila telliJ:>c '"" th~n &nd t her e that It •••

an iapoaoibla and unacceptable propouition - in which oouo I •hould haYo

1n1'or•d Or.\\ota-nn a coorH.l1llY a nd dropJAd tho wbolo thin&• Bu.t tbo

ling did not tvll .o tbat. Bo told mo, on tho contrary, that eo~D<~ auoh

arra n&omont a mt&ht bd ~uuiblv In a pyrovrlot v tuturo oircumatoncda, that

he would lic.JO}' t.hti Dlt tor in •ind. tht~.t. h 1 "''ul l •iv ,, ,, ti 1t ttn 1t. ·.~ ''lld\"Ot•

ft t th~ ap~ropr!ate tt.&, that .. anwh!lo I obould not broothv a ~rd about

the matter to a~ona - loaot ot Rll to any Ar~b - snd finally, that it tho

propoula beoame t ho aubject or pub l l c diecuasion llith any augtto•tion or

hio a pprarinc the-., h? 'lfOUld haYo no h~aitotion whataoo..or in denouncinc

IDII a a haY inc no aut hority to oommit him in tho matter. I "''" purfoctly

prepared t o a ocwpt that poa!t!on, and tb" Li ng lcno- that I ""uld r oor ... nioate

hie a.nMllrttr to Or .. t·,oh«Mnn. Bt~ J id not forb i d IB'J t o do uo l

So tlr troa be i"f: a flr~ona non Gratt~- to t ho ICint owing t o ti\Y

connoction with t~i• buein~••· <am&inod in Arabi& until July 2lat ot

that yaor (1940 ) - eix and a h&lt months a ttor tho 1'atsl oo~unicatlon, ond

praotically a ll t ha tt....> •• thoJ «~ '" guoat at (iyadh o< i n hio du•urt

camp. lndood , on Juno let Bis ll..aj ••ty .. rla mo n r; itt .,r a no•ly - bullt

hDuoe on thv au8Wllption M rl in t~o ~opo thll t I "'""'11\iv•J ,,,;r '"'" •n tly

i n Arabia . Timo dragc:~o~d on • ith no• o r tt ui.;.n t'rOf!J t."1.t'l Kin~ . »n1 on o

o\t rtatn oocaaion \ hon Tuaur Ysdin and I r.sr\.1 t•lunJ t ottlt.h.J r i n t ha d.,uert

I v~tur11d t o b rott cl'\ th aubjoct t~ him. Ad I l:fXJu c t Jd. ho \totld hont ilo t

but. eo tar •• 1 kno,, ha <uf-t 'V con t'idanc·; And I hJarJ no n.or~ or th3

inoident. Still lator, unde•· almilRr c•n~ltlon• o t contidenC'l , I tol d

S.uhir Sn 'daw1 th.• i1.tntl r ,. l outli n•J or t h ... f~lan, on1 t ound him una x(Joot•ldly

tewou rw.bt ... ; 'b.tt. ;dthin ' '1.1 ~utu• • ;., J t .• ,J' t 1!' 1\in . o r uur con·v ·Jraat 1un,

and , \to i\Cm 1 ~ ... '- <.J.J l nt.o t. n•J 4-UOl. ... ncv-cnaatCNr that atturnoon, t he ling

~nod .. to hi• aide. Didn ' t I toll you, be uold , not t o talk to any-

oo• a bout that •tter! I -.de ~cao YOry lama oxc:uat~. anyi"G t.ha t. 1

t hoUttht ~o ao~et haYv tor , otten all obout it, and that thor u wao no hano

in tal king about it ""on aoad .. lllic l'roposit!on. ~.eu, r omoml><>r, ho a a id;

don ' t do i t againl Woanw~Uo, t ha ·A>ropekn o i t uati.on """ h .. in;; a glO<>"')'

e t fect on Ar~bia, anc! I imn&inud that &J>~1"0i'<i6tO conditiona t or thw die­

ouuion o t Pal.,atino otrn i<.> would bO 10114 in aut&bliahing t~u ... elYua.

I n May I decldod t o pru•~ thu (I~ tor an an....er, but, • • I anticipated,

~u put .., ott aga!n . - t h.>u1:h ,,ithout ono aingh word of r epr oach.

I t wna ~ntir~ly on ~ o•n lnitia tl•o that I doeidad about tbo

01i ddle of Junv t" l U&Yil Mnbia tor Allll rioa. Co ~!Unieationa "ith II)' tnaily

in ::rclanJ lind ~ Jn out ott by tha oloaing of t~o Al•)ditorronoo.n ; but, w~on

I c~v • thi s •• ~ ruauon tor ~oing to I.Md<icn , t hu ~ t o l • craphud t o tbo

I A<ebian

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Arllbi.an ltinhto r in l.onclon t o tohcra~h a wetcl y bulletin «>card ing W/1

t a1&1l)' . JftlYttrthel<UI, I in .. i•t..,ct on , .., l n6 doe;.ittt thi o t to rca o r the

.Un6 anJ tho Amir oa 'ud to dia auodo .o on tho ground t hat I od&ht got in -

to troublo owing t o ay habit ot treo apGQoh . I on.,..ro d that t:nc lo 11d

WO• a dor.ocret.io country eb:er i ehtnc trw ri&ftc ot h ·oo •peoob a t all tiMe .

I n the end, unable t o dio• uado •· tho ling tnob ted on W/1 rooording iD

rq di"ry that he hta.oolt had warn~d • not t o loe•o Arabia Hoot I ai,ht

c ut into troublo . On tho Yory day ot ..y departure tho Crolm Pri noe, Who

had co•:so t u t hg door t o ae e me ot t. be,ged 110 to olwnco fiC1 mind •• •n at

t he laot moltllnt , &nd t>euod .., to r..oord i n ay d iary that ho t oo had triod

t o pr uy-ont CDEt lua•ina A.tabia .

I u pl• tn 'd ~II thia in dutail t o Colonol Boetina iD o rder to

dte•bu•e hi1q o r th.u i CD)Jr\Je.Jion thn.t I '"·3 8 at tu\Y timo. arter tukin& "tho

plan• ~own to Ibn s.•uct, a per•ona aon &r at a at hiM Court . A• r~card•

tho t\Jturo , I put it to Colonel Ro.~inS t hAt thO oucceetion o t rq ....

turn t o Arabia being un""l- t o tho .Un;; Ma obYiouoly ouaceptible o t

a Y;Jt'y ~implo t;Jet. Th• • ory • Rmo •ucttuation Md boon d' tioially • d• ODI

bot ore (in Pu hruory l Y• ll a n• I h8d appl ied t ho t oot with tho r o oult

that I hod boon oatogor toally • ••urod by t ao Arsbl&n Mtniat or in London

not only that 1 1110Uld ba •olCODit beok in Arebllt , but that ho •• roady a t

a lly tinw to ~; tYo 1110 t.hu m onssa ry •1P t or th., p.Jrpo.,~ o f r o t:urnJ,. t hitbeJ

I n •1". ho~""'ur. or tho Y.ithdraw.al o t C,lono l U:oakia•a ort&i.D&l a t a t ... ot

thwt t no (!ng would nut po<mit ..y r ot urn , I d id not think it neoe oaary t o

to~o any • p~citio action i n t ho mattor. I .a~, indeed, av I axpl~i ned t o

Colonol lloa<in•. c omJ-11 1tffl7 aati•tiod with hia e xplanation ot tho whole

matt~r, end ~~ readily •ocopto d _, auK~aetion that. •• ht• r ema rk• about tl

<t~ • a attitudtl t o oo Md natu rally ahooJc:ed Dr.\'1--. h-.ann, ho ahould aae~ an

OJI..,Ot'tunity o f OXJ~l&inlf\4; th•• r -101 JIQDition t u thd'm Ail hO had do• to • •

1t h thD t , I brought the oonT&r•at1on baok to •tna plan• . On hi• own

•nu~·.ill(; , I ao i.d , hA had known noth inc. ot • thfl plan• until i t had bottn

montionod to h1a by thu ~· I t t o llo• o d that bo nod not ,ono t o t he

t.tnc. with anyt Mnc i n tho Mtur o o r a tina o t t'tlr on t ho l ln!Js o t • t he

JJlKn • •. m bllM l t ot the Un.itold $ tato a Oov.lrn~u nt . A. turtber atbtOMnt ,

t•t"dtt oy Colon.>l Hoelc ine t o Dr• • IJ hmttM (but not. r-•p.lotvrt t o mo) . .. ., that

Colonol HoviCin• eta r tlil4 by a~.cin.s; ttw 'L\c wh.,~tb..lr n.., ,.:c..uld :3N Or . f . .:tiJJ.Qaru

that tho line r eplied t hat ho -.l d ooM1dor t h o • tttr, but oo.,. cla)'a

olapeod without bia retum~ to the oubjeot. Concluding troa thio t hat

t~tt answe r • • no,atiYv, Colone l Bo~ ••ke d hiiD 11hDt.bor ho woul4 • •t OI'\O ot Dr. ' .• oi amann•• oolloegue1t I t waa thon th&t tho Kine ie reported

to ha•e brolcun out agn1nat Dr. \';eic-.nn end th.o Soh•• · Colonol lloet-1Da

"' no• o•.-eJ•w. I """"t on , from wha t I hAd eatct. thst tho lltl& bad eworn

an t v ooe}ollt:ttu l t.tcruoy e nd Md ,.,..,.ned cs that ho ~ld, it nsoee eary.

d&not~nce mo . th8t. • .-., VDctly .tt.at M.d happt~ned. and tbo deduot ion

I d t'()'lll' trom t hJ tlholtt story waa aa tollowe :

Tho l ing, o n h Jil<i ng tru\t ho wu to bo •hit" d otriol&lly by

s oontidGntt&l ttsiauary o t the All•rle-.n Oo'f'u r~nt naturally ••au• 4 that tho iJaJQNry • • co.in;f; to c CSJUnicat e t o hi~ a ti.l"a o t ter ontbe

l .a. n·_.• ot • t h" ;..l a n • . tho O:::!lilbt\ry oa."'10 111ith no .uoh o t t er . but •r.ly

'41th t hu au,;;~ etlon that Ibn ~·ud ahou l d 11100t Or . i'.e h•.n.n or . _.

Oth\lt' J a,., i .. h luaderf IJrO.,Uoabl. t o r tn<~ )i\lt5A)UO or turthor ba.r«einiftc

/ou r

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a.er Palee~inu . fno King, tul l y aocu•tomod t o tno t ortuoua waya o t divlomaoy, hod deliberately r otrn i nad botn trom giving a defini te anawez and t ram oxpreuing hb opinion or Or . ~oizmenn. Ro MBY -.. au have thought tlll\t a fino day• ,,r ailont incubation wou ld proctuee tna fi rm o r ror whion hw had a rir;ht t o n poct it "the 1-lan" N tlootod th.; d·ldro ot the !riti•n nnd Amurienn Oovurnmont a. 8utColono l Roa~in• had no firm otrez t o make him; and wnon aom~ day• l a ter ha mor a ly askod ror tho King ' u repl y to h i a or!ginal au~gaation about eo91ng Or . lla i&dM, Hh :lt>J••ty, roa liain& that t he ylan had obviouuly not ~on aocoptancG on tha part o t t ho two Oovornm •nta ooncernod, allow"d nimaelr , aa no occasional ly do~ • in momenta or dieappoint mant , t ho l uxury or a tit or ill - t vmpor at t he Ol pen•" ot Dr. fiaiziii&M, tho J ewo in r;onoral, ond myuol t . I t waa exactly wha t I woul d hav<; expect~d in thu ciroullliltanoea. Ki ng I bn Sa•ud io getting very weary or tha way• or f eotern diplomacy, and na ye rN. pa rightly uu.peot• t hAt thR atrate~ic, oconomio ond political i nt Or J. t a of ct~rtoin Gr- tat Pov:ara debAr t h •m f'rottl ro&kinr: 11n.y r-•l&lly acceytab1a otter to tna Arab~.

Nwerthe lea a, a.a I matle olaar to Colonol Bos!.ci na attor our very full tul le over tho ~1hole buaineaa , ltia aocount ot hh conve rsation• with Ki ng I bn ~ 'ud had not in tho leuat shalcon my conviction - a con­viction on ~hioh I wa~ pr~parod t o otalce ~ ~hole r oputation, ~hich wau all I had t o ¥take ainoe I had a lready aacriti c Jd my caree r by my tic ht tor Arab indapoadenoe - th•t, had he gono out to Arabia wit h Proaident aooaavolt 'a f irm ot ter, made on behal f or tho f\O>Jrioan and 8ritiah Gover-nment. , on tna1 inea or "the plan" . t hat otter ··oul d hav~ bean aoce ptad. I could only draw tha rather diaappointing oonoluaion that tho Bci t iah &nd A.moriean Oovornmanta aro not pr~perad to lllllko the relati vely light aa~itioea invol ved in "the plan• even to eavo the J awe tram poreooution, torture and death . I t', hoWQvGr , I a 11 wrong on this point the opportunity pre• ento i t aelf for putting t ho matter to t he tee ~ . I f tho two Oovernmonta era r eally deairous o t an arrange ­ment on the l inea ot "tho plan" and are prepared to make to I bn Sa ' ud a f irm o r re.- in that aonae, I a•• co!IVincad that the King will accept it - but it .... et be a t illn otrer on tho line s ot "tho plan", to bo aocopted or roj <Jotod as it s t unda without mod i fication or barcaining. I hav~ only my own conviotion to pit against tha v iowa ot Colonel Hoskin but no harm can oo••<> ot putting the ... tter to tho t eet . t:i thar "the pla ia accep ted, or the atatua quo romaina intact without prejudice to aey bodY· , or ~ part , I r;uarantae (for what my guara nt ee i s worth) that tho • U(geat ed t irm ot ter will bo accepted i t made by any reasonably intel l igent paraon of indi aputablo ~oo~ill on bobal t or t ho two Oo• ernmente oonoernod.

H.St . J . P!II LBY. 17 .11 •• 3 .

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1 - ~: - ~ ... ... ?~A-r ·; • tm ?! 1. -•.A=r.:tf AL s· 'TS . HYOt Rt' ·•o-:rL, ll'' ,. "" . s .- • 1 - •r '0 AY , C ,. 0 l! 14th, 11143 , at l C a ... .

---·-------------------------------------------------------------------------------J "~"Ot r;en~ ral Smuts a~ .. h, Hy1e Pa r k J:ote l &t ten o •elook t hia ~orning ,

a .. .tt t .. o :;h • • ha1 not l "'tn e&f'h o .-her 'or "'lev"'n Y"'•r = , we m~t o.a old friend a . I

M-!. how• • r ... "!nns iderable 4. ,-u nt or leeway to N ke up in oM•r t-o O'J t b"'rcre hi&

a ~i,.t r @ or th"' ait'IJatien aa 1 s ee: \' a t pr.,seut , a nd. this took a bo\.t halr an hour

1 fiOI''r1'e1 our 11fticul~te• a n::t rruotrttt •.,ru: tho .'lhlte ?npor, ani what

it m"'!.nl f, r ll, t'-lo J~t'lilh Army, oto ., '\n~ i:JoidHJ.ta.lly t n t-1 him th'tt 'bOOI\!ISO :, f

·.h• hit., ?"'~~r p r ob'\bly ab® .. l S:l , OOC' to 2~'"0 ., 0 0 mor• J,.,,s ~&d ~1~1 t n t,r m.,ot be­

t!"\!Jitt ·y~ t!O•Jl J t:o':. -et • "'e" o·Jt . 1 a ldd thlt in a ro., co:1t~1 now • th-·re wo ald be

' n..,•.t !"l 0\""'r the £.$. ... '!$ or ftl\le;:lne : "t:o JftW !1"" 0-1 • .,?ly l" I 1oa:r ihe:t the ~un­

rann i n.. .. r.rl, ltt an! t "> 11 h1n t ' 1.t ~nrl1"l,_.,.n 'in1 A""'r ica.ns .. , .. ro a ., t to T'"'tu.rn rror-

• .. ).,,,.( ... o ~,., !th ,fllil'lon\.11 rt, r., to spr• "J a ·~t ... J ... t·:hil , a.nt• - ;:t onht , snt - s mittc ,

rr,p"'"flnln , :JUf .,,.ti!'lf' t h"t t~o J ..... , .v•· r" subv~r s\v., , ~nl a t to.o'!l""' t~c "n P:od a -

. , I"'ID in ::t .. m1 '!It o" t h war. 'i'hey w r• t .. :.-in .. to d r iv• ill'i \n ·o r -.•olt , ~nt at

• 1• • ... ,.. ... • t. y a~c 1$01 us of be1~ subY~rsh·, . lt s .. e-:.ei ttlllt t: ... y ~re follow

l n. *h"" p .............. n 10 8 \J ·ees:tr.ally e··ol•toti by ;r~tl-"r : r rat d~fl!:»e - t hen y u !&0 do

whnt :;"'U !> lfllaao ·••lth t ~tra .

Th-, •; .,n"r&l l iat"tnotJ wi th n1o8e "tt~ntion, n.ni s.t tho ~rv:S S'\id thnt 1 had

p!l t "t •1 4 d r k pirt Jr e: . 't~"~ thon;-~t 1 hi\ I chane.,J ft r r ... at donl in ':ho yoare ainco w

l-1\t -•• . 1 1'\S:i tt ~' ., ... ,11 wr ~;:! ... ~ If I Ja,d . Sut .... y l! tt\t)l'\"' Md tot ··~-n a cou.rse

:"r clsely p~o.at':~ ~~~ '"h t'l .ltl't: ~e M.rl •t:ar ..... <i by fi•l':tl t'l[ the Brit ls b t ~n1 n ow

'l!t~r•'thi n'"' '"'" b"'1n7 1onf\ •o dri ve the ,, 11a in to o.,no.sltion to •h.,:!'! . I think thi s

m.t.de Pn il'!"pr#ol t' l on on }jim.

I 51\U t~a t , eo rllr i.s the J" .... ·ne r 't conc'lrned , HiL1"r h:1d w n t.h" war,

b"'CI\'J'" he "1a1 5U .. "' .. -de?! tn polson!nr ~ne~n'a m1n!s ev~rywhoJre . He r eplleJ m,hat!.ca

t~at u1 ... ler •~• not tolQ1 to wi n.

H~ sa~d mo wh~tt""or I t'" "' l .,._, "-'.e :,.,. c atill f·o l lCY'ted

l1"'VIl1 t hat Enr lhh , Ar....,rl~''\n &nd ~nuth Afr l~!Ln Jtt ·:a a " Jll f\1d .

'nO eonc,.rr'IBd , lt \'laG so:-ro~J :: s rs s~ .. "' ll':-..l b~,.n ·'l~r! an1 tltoy

"01 tn.: e ... pty- tundfllllt . But I t~ ,..~.·ht ~"l l't \' wou ld s ill rolla." mo.

me? I s'id I be­So r-..r as .r,la3t in mirh t r "r"rd ne as

l told hl.n tho otory about lbn Sa•'.ld and Ph1lby am tho "rt.e ''ln!a•e r' s

tal t with me a bou~ his ola.n . But or"t t,.M two yurs h!ld paaae--1 sl'1ce "-h~r . ~nJ

nothifl( ha, h"ppttnl'ld . 1 waa 1\frali that tJuc h an at"nO:ai)here WN. a beinr created as

owntually ~o JMko 1t !Jiopo•slblo ror th<t Pr !me Mln lotor - .•1th 'ho beot wil l l n tho

world - to do ftnyt'>!nil l hh han1s wo •lJ be tiod - tha Mrn!n!atr•tlon in C dro and

Jeru.s.ale.o wo•1ld aae to that. I aa1d i t wu t"t.,r•t ore eaa,..nt t ~l .,o do aom<~Jthlng

now. ani the r1r1t thing 1 wo·Jld sutteat was t hl t C&n,.,.rs.l Smut.s a n1 '"")"S "' lt •~ ld

m "t the ';) rlmo ·.:.1n s:~r !lnl d1ecu:sa the !l"'&tter . H"' th011 ht t.hh an exc-tl lont s..at­

r "e tlon, n n-1 •"ld he wo lld try to o.rrft.nt; ... lt .

/'!hat

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That more or less terainate<! · t he written n..te or tl'ws raote lllllnt iened in "" " ohew it over" • and - s Nill 11111at again, intervi .w with the P, V.,

2.

interview, I aa sendin,; him a s tatement, He wi ll , ae he said, He will then try t o arran~• the

In oonolusion, I s a i d : the pioture is gloo~, but there are still t !a'ee men in the wor lee who could sol"/'~ our problem: the Prime l.!itd star, l.tr . Rc>oe evel t ar.d yo\U'self. I then gave him a short account e f 11\Y talk w1 th Roosevelt.

The t alk, whioh was througheut lliDst friene ly , laste d abeut three­quarters of an hour ,

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EXTRACTS mO!.I Jai,UTES OJ. 'l'JIE 2l!'T PBCE/JIIfl! 1943.

TA!J( .. nu m . AMERY,

IT. r'e1z.Mnn ao1~ he he d shown &Jr . A..mery t he telerra~r~. tve had reoe!Ye d !'ron. Gonorl<l S1111ta; llr . ~ry had O.NI,..recl t hat he could not tell hia ar.ythin& about it. Dr . W.i&-1'111 replied that he quito Wldoratoocl that , but it oooMd t o him that thin&& were &oint t.warclo partition. llr . A.8ry replied that there w.uld only be a definite de oioion whe n tho Pri.,. )liniater n o book in L.ndoo. AtU.r ooa time , Ur. Amory oald there n a one thin& he c ould 1110ntlon, aod that n o the Pales­tine Currenoy Board had o.ecwuule.tod """"' £60, 000, noo, so that thoro woulC be oo-t10r>oy t o give both to Aro.l.oo a nd Jews . At one • tae;e, llr. Amory oaid, Let t r.ea i mpose lt on you; o thonriae the Arnbo will rofuae.

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' rs N"ll :.- t ::s 01 ""\1,. utta ocr .. ...-,, 1eu

'!'. fle1a-.zm at.Sd tMt t~re '-41 beGn fl"aent at the lw:ach, bNld11 "-'• &J)d ; 1"1., hu:ra'Filli, aoi •1DI' f')na:rohtll, lb-. a nd 1l'# o .lttloo, Lord ?ortal , the Dotla&;er Wy

RM·Itn&, aM a.not ,...,r U!bour •n whca Dr. 7tetucntt dld not roo0£1l1••· .Dr , lrohlfMUin ""t O.t.ea ~ ... . ChUJ"'b\11 ani Lord i'Ol"tal. Durl~ l~..~M.h, .:.,n . Churohill talkoct about Q\leboo And tlrde Mid Lorm. Jnpte. a nd a t o Dt at!lco ..o.r , Chu.rohill joinoJ \n ~ uylr~~- tJ•t ho lmew Dr . ,(ota:teM hl.d n.t'lted OnJo :angat e tor C'olll:fl.lkt11r-ln..Cht•t ot tho J'Mieb ; oro•, but tho)' 00'1 111 11oi lv\•e hla booaueo ho aa 'Mintlo'l tor other ro1

A.rtor h m.cb the ladl .. retir..S and t r, ChW"ohlll bad l r.tr oJucltd. hla to tha o",.,r r uo•~ 1.n YOrJ oo•pliMnta_ry tome . The l 'rllao ..lnbt or add U •• a lone tlDO at"' he htt.d eoen h..b, lind lh'. ·111.':11M utd. \ hd bten too lc~ tor h\a . Lr. C}\\l"ohlU "tl'!on ••14 thl.t athr t.~ ha.J or~h«t Ui Uor t ... ,. wou.ld h-. .. Lo aatt.bllth \hi .S. 1 1n t"• poti t ec wher• th~ belooced.. r. h&J h!.d aJl 1nhr1ta:w:. lort to hla by Lonl "'"'lt' ·•J.r, lUI! !:.e •• "~ toht~ io ~· Dr . J'el uttnzt eal<l hi cl Ld oo\ \ Milk \he Pr1• -l.nl.ft.er WOJld e~ , but \Mre '"re b.r1t rora•• worki.A;c • · dnst ~- 11ftlch lllU't r r c e \be b l ne\'e ,.ad. ~jor hvoUU Cl'l14 t....,. .. re aU Cllll7 wao atd c. I» r ~~ f"'t·~ I.JQ' )'O'nQrrJ lt ... -~·r to. •C-O:&Mr7 to •crt 41'-lo\>17~ Mr • .....,iJI'e,lll 1'\H t· '"I -..tt ""-'" •o ._.,.._ 10 e~ mea . "tu.m.tA& to Dr. l"ican" H .-.:1 Y-u -. ...a ~cr.e -...., ( o t &-1~ ... , , tar ta~·oee r • • &...tlee •rd the 4bo·r Jluot7 •T

eo..ttw' em t'lc ;.-twr. • r • .ltll•• sal.d M etu"ta aly ..,., add~ \.M\ he '"~'" •-'-Mv 1 -1 be 4o~ abo l fr"-n1Jor1b.a. r. Chlll'ehll.l nld PMJ had k.n \ IIJl.alo­ta.· eko .. t -:ort!Uoa., bu\ ,._aa~ ru • o,i U• . F.e lm.!S t"IM t.orrlbl• ai••tt." of t'lote Jawc . ?hoy W"O U at ctoW~pCD a\lon, aD.I t.,.,. wo.tl4 d~oo be o ~ to .1'de• the C:l"bt alt. .Ae l""t•l"'ll the pod·Jon a tll• -ov ••t h• d.M not ta!t-t tor u•ntO'~ al •t. l'1fooor:aat~oa t.l-.a\ o ... t~11 tt. ' (lftrt or t',. o- rld . 4'. Attloe aflicl to tJr . :fl.la· mrm tlut soeoe or hia .,.ople nro owr• .ll.a)'lnt tloir ..,'Ud1 u..,. .or-o IOM 1 bt~ot thr-.tel'll.ng. Wr , ... hYN'\111 11.1<1 t'•J' ai\,.U n<•t o tl<!at ~ He per a..,n. lly W'I)Ull l"""'tfl one ,i!OO'i row. Uo wou.l •J•h• th• not t.o "a'" ,_ aorl• • ot row•• lh\t t.,•Y '-d to do wa-3 wntoh the t~ lna. Ho ~toult ot aay p.ab !ely "!f''tlt "o,.. t.lUtv. j'r. ~loltrOallH flOW I thoro wou-ld be q~•tlone , " n1 ,.,.. wn 1U '""vo to loGe t1rlo Cl):pl&LrLS,ftG . They could qu.ot• hlo p bllc ~.t\t.nr-.oa , l'ltd n y t"'\t ho wNld nrl: budte .rro. •h• •

:..r, CtN.roh ill repeaC•J tat t.'wJ' ,..&J • n.-bor ot &cocl trlrm::l.e 1 l...r. At:tl•• • • ._... adtted., ~""tct ~o 7 Party""'-' o-ittecl, the L.ane,cator .;Uilrd.la.A waa f'rlorw.th . e\o , v,. lbl"rt~tood , h.oawnr, kt.t tl"! re 110nt oo~tn J• a lD 1:-..rl•·• .ro n.- oo oaNt. 1! thr>-.t.h.l)t JJ-, Web ....,, •""' 'W ,,.,. an.l Witt o-.cr r. •'~.Neb. r . r~onroMll Mil tal~ to r . - U..ac.h, a:d !'M toU P. la htl waa .,.Of.~&, bat h"J.d aot •~Noed•.l ln pe ... .­dlnt t-l.a. ~. lr.1Toh111 •mt on to • 1 ''-' he •" not to1~ \o o~Qst lt • d...,. I J .-,-al bite d .. pl., bto ~e r't'\1-. U".l lt ••• ·ot u to bo ·~. blrr•t 1 .... ot t he ...... "o!l l r . Ch\U'o~ll •n lo...t pt.l"tlU•, ..-jor «.tdolpb &.ad. Dr. a et..._na 4•lii'T'«l, .,. r . ·h'W"'bill ,.. ... 11.'14 t .... , b• ta;t bfot .. • • .,, r.a, lt orlclaa.l.lJ', W\ - t.,_, hM to

""oiuc• • o ""t.'-l~ ..., 1t~~t•4 of ''- M 1 r..,.r. V. 'wl not .-cr\ pt.r Ut1e. l a Uoo• U t ..... t Mm• .- "- tt-on Sf"Wtl ne4 ,..,.1; ln.• abo.Jt t"he ~.,.... lln1 1"""-Mjord.ul .

REGR!..D:J tm:::u£31..-:'L:J

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••. t .

s,-t1Ql of' U. ~blp • · Q W'O.hUl .U tMt ,,.,. bltd. do• ftr1 UUlo, a lilt la ·~ hata.ae•• hMi -· ' ''"" d' Mod\ ror ... • .. YO'..lld ~ ..... uu_. tlhn the d.a.7 ot f'H'toftl-"C ..... b-. ChureMll ~ U.t ~·• tbe Pal .. u .. ~.~..,. oaae up, M ..,.M ·~ out, a.S "'r~8d. ~o p .. tho l't-..U-ap: of '-le , ,. .. h. "'- I"'A1ah9d orr bJ ••rlar ,,_, -,,., •1na• DMd DOt •uTJ'- ,,_,.tad. a YOOIS.wM ..... .tt one a ta • , Dr. wu-,.. -.u ooa4 t 'tat azati ... •:d. d.• wu crowtllrl • &DIS tt. Pr ta lti U.htor t U4 be tl'lo"'th\ U .. , DO\ eo , ad Lcrd Portal aqHd W'1th kS.a.

L'r. Churohill .. ld th., oouli n.ot >•' dt.ouu h t&llt . On toM nbjad ot t he .AI"'III ':H.&l. the r rt. Kiabt•r ol .. r lJ did ft rlt know t he 4e db , but add • tal • tha t. t"'ey .;hcr.~ld not thro.ateD. He auueet.od t~t: 0!-, Weh•a.a.n ahould , o to P&laeU no, •·11.1~ joldJ\tly '""'' "'• hl!d rr .. ,. or ··~•nt thro~out the llll;.1re.

At one •t.a&• Dr. Woh ,..IU\ MiAl that irarob lOU wa• a ppr OAch ln , a.nd he t.aNd t:haft o "'a notice O'ftlr' t bo p t.tl or r.t .. ~ne ' ••·o +lt~X a.od app}J"~" r ca lb- , hUJ'Ohlll' a l"lplJ lt a ppt..,..-J tM\ t he, wer e t MnldJl& of e-a.rt'JJAc tanrard t t. balaae~ ot oertlri,•t" at\er J.arch 10.4, e.#i I r . Chu.rchl ll a ld.J t._t lA a ooup)t or 1"U'IItht "" ao •rter tlhat •-tM"C olu •l&-ht t~ vp .

Kz-. •.'lua"ohiU quot«t. l iiJ"\n.«' he \altc-. tbl •• Tlac: t'wl.t •cod :IM.la wU.Jrl the •"• .. •~ t..,.., ded rlU. t .. J..., ,• lrlt-, Cl!urah ll •bo ea.hl t bat or '"1"7 11ft)' otnMrt .-.o oar• baot ,.,._ t·.. tddle '••t. 04\7 ._ a-polte i!ll'ftiiU-rabl,- or t he .S..t - 1t111t t"at l!o4 cerclJ' &O-Oe to oonllxo ll.l.a U.t he ._. r -\5-h't.

-wt.c tJoo ptz"tJ bro ... • · a.rd tl'J". 'fol arir!Uut .Ud pod~. ~ Prt=. inlater ...... , J ot t ocdbfe • u t'190lr, aoi tttat he -oul4 ' " Dr. • •h:•m apla.. Dr , Wot-­•U:l lie • • 'la4 to Nru t~...,, ""\»• he '"ad uad:~rriooi t hat t..'• I'Pt. U a.lotJo:r me not •~r-7 bM oa. '"1 QC '->111, aM tO"Wtl.ae• ur~;.~t t'd~a aroeo -"\ch to.. \tl4 dU -qaa o 17 ws.~h ... la .

The l UDeh &D4 t~• talk Whleh ,_.11~4 l&lt od 11nt1l ~~.p ...

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'r"lPSJ4Y, oe,.nn\:!t U \h, ltU, at 10 .,..,.

I .. t G•aor&l '-uh a\ tM Uy1t Part tlo\tl at te-a 0 1o l ook t h h IIOrniA&,

and: -:.~owp •• bU a.ot u ra ••11 oo.t-cr tor t l .-na ,_...,, ft .. , u oldi M ta.Jt. I had,

hO'IIIIIn"tr, a oou ldt,.blt L OW~t ot 1..-, to •"- u;t la ont.r t o pu:t be t ore Ma • pi e.

tW'o of t ho t ltuat l oo u I ae. tt a t pr.ttnt , and t hh took abcl.lt halt a a tw:.;r.

J !ltae.r~bed our 41.tttoul"u &Ill t r 1t"ratlon~: the ll'hl t. i'Dptr, a4 .,._, 1\

IDOa 'M tor us, ~ Jmrlab 1.1w1. tto •• ancl 1oo14ta.t.l ly told hlr1 Uat Moa t.&M o r the

bltt Pllptr probabl y •bo~ 150, l00 to 240,000 DOr o Jew~ M4 41., 1a tortMnt bHau .. wt

.. .,14 a.t p \ t"-• out. 1 t..M«< V•t 1a a t .. .oath& aow t.huo W004ld be a DOttot owr

P~o ~l .. ot r-.1 .t1no• -wo Jw nt<td a 1pq•. t d .. orl'*l \he c-•rwut.la& triat. ,

-.nd t old M.a tt.\ ~HaMia "''ld AMrh&'la n rt a pt to return t'rc. h lt1U ne wUl\ poi•

aoM!i •lJ:Jia, to s "'"2rd utl· J•ilh , &GU·.Uo~ht, antl• a • U lo p·t'Opacaa4a, • ua••t1Jirl

Ulat the J•a ftre ubftnlft, aft! ar;ta~ld..n& u.. ~Utd. &:aUoM 1a tbt ald.ri or t.ht

war . l'ho7 wtrlt t1")'1tc t o d ri" \l.t Into r ••oU, and at tM aa.e tlM t 't..,. • « •K ue

of 'bela, u;.,r ::d.w. It •••ed t "'-t t"'ey '"" toll«rin& th.t f"\Urn so all<lc•utully

n ol..-i b7 lllUer• ttrn cS• ta=. ... t h o yo:a na d o ,._, )'OU l U. wtt)t \. •·

?ht en•r.l Uat <mod wtth clo11• .ttoattoo. aD.l a t tho •n.J oa ld thai I had

t-lllt•. • d.ut pl~t .,., • It t~pt I h I c"an.c.t • .. reat lt"&l la t.h• ,..are alno. ..

lad ~~et . 1 .. w 1t wu ,....,u.,rater tt 1 had . aut rtt • ..-u t ..dt laJ ta.ko1 a o<WrM p,.._

o l.atlJ' O:Jil)Otit4 to "'h on• ho l'latl ator tO<'i by t~h.·tn: tho :Jrlthh, MJ n01t ...-.ryth l"l

_. tJ.et-c d •• to d.J'ln U• Hwt lato op--o~t.t o to t"*c. J t"lak ~h a.da ao b.pr .. •

11M on ht..

1 -~ thAt, .ao to.r &e t.M .s.-• .en Qom erned , ttltlor h!t.d. woo. the wa.r, bo•

oau:a h tiU aw:o.e«lt':l 1a pobott.l~ ..a •a alrrla ..,..~.,.. . 5t .._. U eJ •!"'"•t •all7

~hat U1t ler wu not &oln& to wtu .

It ••~ • r.-.. cttrr t ' "' U£h\ t.,... .:.,. a·Ul tollO'I'Od. .. ., I nld 1 b.llOYH

U.t rclhh, .bar l ou and •outh o\t'l"1ou ~~ .till d14 . •o f-.r u ftlle :\.U. - · oon­

Of'r aed , Uo • • ~ )'UJ'a alneo I had bGon thrc, an:l t 0) "" Cbt N1p.r4 1M .. oom.

-vtY· twdtcl. aut t t · oloOCM t'wJ wo';ll • • 111 r llow aa .

t ~k! Ma tho I tory ab~t I bn ~ · t..IICl ud t'h.llbJ, ao:l t M ri• l -tll'll.-wr •s ,_

wt•h • abaat l a --laa, l'llt 1:10~ tl-ao t. ,_,., hld pua~ alnot thoft. and nMhl"£ ha

.. ~. 1 -ma &t,..U tat n .,h •• a o.p."''-:ro .u bolA or t!Stal • e ..... I\Mll)' to • k

lto im~ulbla tor tho l!rl• .. \aht.r - w1\PI Ula btlli wt.U la the w~rll - to do •n;rt~Ja

'l_h haa:U wo•JU be tl«l • thcJ AJ!d.n1att"a\hr11 ln O .. Lro atd Jnr~ttal .. trOuli uo to tM t.

1 . u it .... Uter tof'(: . .. .wtld to dio ~ 1~ _., ud ttte n ret tlllac 1 quld. •u.c

c;aot •• that ~-orttl ~.uh aid .,-.elf •"'• 1l ••t tM ?rt• lailt ... •td 41 .. \au tha

-~t...,., He tJ<~o-.a ht t' U u exodhnt l\ll£toiton , a.DI.I :ald h• wo1d'i try to o,.a.np u .

"'*' •· ,.. or t• .. \~ •ted t'-t l a:h" ... I .. a...U~~& hb a trrl tt• oott

of thl r 1c tt: .. ntlontd 111 trt:J 1ta.t:•c.nt . ft• wlll , u M $ &14 , "ch .. lt: crrer• . ·~ ..

alall • •t: .,p.l.D. He will t hea t ry to • rn.fl&'e tM l.nt:orvlt• '"'' th t~• fi,M.

Ia GOI\OlUi lon. I aald r Tlw piotur• h tlOGftJ, 'W' t'wr.. a re atlll ~ .... ..,.

1A \Itt ,.,r ld ~ C' uld aoln our )robl•• the PrJal tnh~r , Ur. Roounlt an )'OW''•

ael t . I Q .. P." "~ • ehort a r.O;Ol.At of -:t talk with Rooaeft.l •

an hou.r. The talt, which -. t J\ro"&h ut aoat trteat~ . la.lhd a ut tlu••t-q!lkl"tere 0,

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1• 'lt'IIJ:I fTB ~ ? .. U. ~ 1'S 1

Or. li'~th•u u.ld ha hld t Mn G•Dt~ral '-"\a at 11 o•ol oot \hat _,"'lAC• a.!ld had W

• "1'7 o of'dial t.l\t ri th M•• Geftl!r&l s...u W ,tftn ~ • • auoh tt•o u ho wa.nt.d .

~ n, ,..,..l ' hOUI'h t that t~lttp • r • ro l.a,s .. u tw , ,.._, .l '"h;cc aiP,i: "'- "-'"•

bJ r r . " talla, tht l"rl ... "'ln.iot:•l" aftll tM J'rootd .. ftt at t.holr prooow\ Coo.t.r noo,

• td GeftoN l S.uta •16lrt ,Jota \t. a • tM etd ot tbo ..U ... or t~ 'otc:1Mi.a,r, ot next

... & . lte 11.1e;~.-tM t "'&t i>r. Wosro u a.n4 11r ~._ O.ecloa ohoulJ l•~h ..S.th hla

bttoro ho l .rt. tho Ooneral ald. tt-.at tl!o Pr l• ~'Ultter 1o ILI.I"d ws-; N YolY'lzll; at'OWII!

p&rtlt h o , ... tch wo.ll4 &1n a ' ood ruD. t o tM ...... Be tolJ Dr. Well•rm t._.t he

ohouU not atk t o ~7 quNUo~a, oo U..' Jt• o"-oul:t not be c.~tttd . 1!1.., .at.d.

to roW..la •'r . « ol llli&JUl' o l edtr tUp. Oooeral Sr..uto td4 that tM talk wh\oh Dr •

.lll.-.n "-- Nd with t,.. J rl.ao J ob'ta.r ....-t _,.. thaD ,,.,.,. beUne4. fho, l-TolUilnr

oboo.Jld aot: P"1 t oo a .:oh attch Uo:a t:o _..., ot.Mr ;oo?l• • r PJ'h&' 1twoul4 be \ba

"'rS.. l.ahtor, t ho i"r ee!dent, -.a4 •trh&p!l ht hhuaolt, wt.o wouM .. ettl• t h e •tter.

'f'ht ,....,.,..1 aa.ld tl':.•J hW l'rleo:b lo ·:r .. A ~rJ &td 1t &.rohl'b!l ld Stnola1r. lA tho

....a\iae , •l•tlrw cutt bit D pt qu tt . !.to we 11!! .,... ... r. Cuc7 a tM....,.. beck. De

•Atl-d. that 1::'. C.••1 hd ap lcea to h b a.bo-.1t t1-1• I':Aranah. General Sl:l.ute did. aot

btllcrn tMrt W bHA orca·lt..S •pr~'ic:e• but t.lto~ prob&b\7 1IU & &ood. deal t4

" tUU.o'" (he u.~od '!t\o worit •ttrro:r j~tca• ) . _..,ie"" \«! to ~ro~t\" aeu. :tr.

el.-m1 ta.14 \l•t tu.th aol:t hd to b11 ttoppeJ , ard Otncral J~ta .all! he wn•tld talk

&W!Iilt l t..,.d dqo. General t • uid V:o ~O'W""'Mnnt h.\4 tJ"•t eoatlde~,.. La Or .

•4Jhr&n.n, an1 Dr . 1l\J10\C\nn re . u~4 •J:at tt..7 "!.~ • ~M: ry of' •"'.-in. it, beOI!ua<>o

he wu act o-,.c. -.11~ to OOW'\t"lo!\to 11'1th hla <:oOO;tlO' • n 1\lt • I no ard Alwerlaa.

Aat,.. l $:alb At.d Jw -· ou:r r lu4 ~0 "'-1' t• le, Ul .nul:l '-t':O lt u.a . h ~e.t~era'

aur.rut.od t.Mt Dr . \i'eh""4llo t1Eht havo to t.,o h fa:..t·lno . Dr • .;etq&an \o¥ M a •

l ..r. ':Jea- ";ur\on, &1\:1 th,.. o•blu .. .,.t ~ •'aleaaao AU1 Wrla. t•one.rd Sr.l'-''' utd tl

i t l'l"e.••'7 U: 1 wovl &r,..r'l«• trw r~. d t a to traftl wit._ hl.r.

Jr . "•t .... .a u1d t l'•t a t o• t:U. tl\o)' h&d.. hCiard t"-at: S!.t- Doll&lu & r rh 11'1.1 hs" •

• • • 'f'btnr on •- tioi ot ~rUt liD ••~· C.:n.lrd l:ll&ite: t r U hed t l': l.a ••1 o, ao

uld.t •wo "\11 dt olde . "

"1t=lnr \oil' , Or. 10e1...,."' n.ld t"-.,. 'a.t 4loru·•e4 t)....,. polcta•

(al U.. t t o';..ce ol Uto •.rw• IMJ'eM u

(b a~aUQM Ylth 1-&lutl.D& a.D&l '--f'l<& l

(o prorldoo or t'r~UWgor\ t~oUH1ea f or t r"'! . t•t.IJ!Ial'll'l it r . Wel.c.rm

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cr. "•h~ Mid ht 1wl 1holrll Mr. Aar7 \he ~.l .. ru hi hM r•o•twd rroa O.raerd

t&l"EII ltr. L.rr hlld u,_red thAt 1\e ooulJ aot \Ill ht.. UJUtUlc akJt lt . Dr .

1fe1&MAD re .,lhd t1-tat he , w.t e ~•r•tood that. bul lt 10.-od to hla tMt t '"tap

... ~ ,ol.at t~rd• put:tUoe . Mr. ,_rJ r~Uifll \hal thei"' •uld OO~l' b1 a 4•flD1W

decia ' cm whon the Ytl.o a..lntato'f' n• ba.ck l D wolioJh .t.tter •oc.• tlM. b . J.:IOf7 .. sa

U.t \._:-, ... orw thlct&: b• 00 '4J en.tloG, a.lld that tTU that tlwl ?&les 1nt Cwrrel'lo;y

~oard """' aGc~.B Jlatecl •~• tso.t..o. "X». ao UAt thv.re 'lf'0'.4ld M •ca.e -•1 to&!" ~th

to ..l.Mb• atd Jo••· At ou tb. o • .:r. h!er7 tdd ; tAt t.Ma S..po .. H n JOVI oUwr~

wt.s• ' '' &.r!lba trlll nt\IIGe .

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J anuary 12 , 1944

Memorandum.

Some time ago Dr. Col d1D8nn t old me tha t Dr . ',/eiz.mann

wanted to \1ri te me about som'l tdl.ke bo had had ·.:it!: Churchi ll

re Pal estine . I t ol d h i m to t ell \/ei zmann t o t•ive it to

the O .. I orri oe in London anll I woul d a rrant;e ror them to

transmit it to me her e . I arranged with Mr , ...;h ·r wood to do

it and today a package o f lettor e cace i n a sea l ed envelope

via the pouch. IJy instructions •.•ere tha t they should be

e i von to o.:I t o be brought ove r by some o· :I man ~·. ho wee

r eturnin,- to .:nsh1ngton , but i t soot•e they sent it this way .

One sealed l et t e r was aid reesed t o me . One ses lcd l e tter

vrus :..l•1resse l to Jecretery :"oreonthuu, which I o.m sending

over t o him unopened , an1 on" Lo tsr . ·.:eis:;e l , 41 .sst 42nd

::t r eat, Ne\. York City ,

I phoned Dr . Gol di!Uinn :m:l en i d .ie izmann h'ld no r i r ht

t o send t h i s pri vu t e lette r ovor un+J I was roinr to return

it or read it and satisfy myself tho t t her e t:as no thing

whi ch censor ship mit::ht obj ect to,

He s•J i d it wns !lerfectly 'ill r 1 -ht f or me to open

1t enj if thor o ·.vua nothi ng objAotionable , he would c~ll

f or it Jn I cl olivor it to Mr . 1./eiegal.

I t ol d r r . Gol dmann, who i s leovine for Le n ton in

a f c\r days , thut he shoul d t oll Dr . \:e1zmann to send me no

more l otLors except via rogulnr moil.

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5 I •

EX'f!UC'!'S J'roll !.l !NU'l'!S,

?Jrd lfoveobor . 194}.

!li'I';J!V!t'll ll l'lll GENERAL 5.\.'tiTS:

pr. Wg1 sm• rn s e.td he bad aeeo Gene ral SU!uta at 11 o ' clock that aorui.D£:,

aJ1d hlld had a Yery co ...Sial ta l k • I tb bim, Genoral Smuta hlld ~l veo bill ao

web \lae ao be wan t ed, '!he General tho""'t that thin~• • ere ~ IDt; ft ll

f or them, A dec l olon mltht be t aken by Mr, Stalio, tho Prime Minis ter

aJ1d the Pr .. ldent at the ir pr ... ent conferen~e,and General Smta mltht job

thea a t the end of the • •e.k - or the be&1an1a.s of nex t we r-k. Be: llJUf'lt.ed

that Dr. lie I """'n and Sl r WyndbiUI De•dea obould lunch w! th hS. before ho

left. 'lhe Gene-ra l se1d. that th~ Prt~ Mitdst"r' a 11ind wru• rcvolT1nt; ro und.

par tiUon , • hieh would t;l..e a t;ood run to the Je••· S.. told Dr. lle hl!&lll•

tha t h e should oct aolc too ......., quootlono , oo that bo ehould not be col!l!ltt ed.

'!he7 wr nted to re t ain Dr. llehmonn ' e leaderelllp, Oenerel Swtt eaid that

t~.e talk omlch Dr. llelna nn had had d th tho PriM 111Diate r a ean t ooore than

the7 beli eved , Dr. llel&mann ah~uld not par too much at t ention to what other

people were O&J~' 1t would be the Prl.., lllnloter, tho Proa ldent , and per-

haps he h!aoelf • ho would aettle th<· .,..tter, '!he General oaid they hl1d

!rlendo In llr. Alt!ery and Sir Arch i bald Sinclair. I n the meant!••· Pelaetioo

cu_at be kept qui et. He would aee W.r. Cnaey on tho "A¥ bock. He men tioned

that llr. Cue7 had epolcon to hl1> about the illlt;anah , General Smute did not

believe there hM been organleed •provoc:et1oa• • but tber .. probebl.r • ct:: a &Ood

d.e,.l of 11p&n1o11 (he ua ed. the word a 11 terror judatcs") , which led to proToe&t1Yt

acta. Dr. Wei&&aoo s&Jd that auch acts be4 to be stopped , and General Soute

oald he would talk about It that <lar. Goneral SMute o"id thft OoYern.,.nt b8d

crea t Cl'nftdence in Or. W~i zmann , and Dr. 11'c1~mann repl i ed that thl-)' had a

t'unQ¥ "A:¥ ot a.howln& it. ~cauae bft WIUJ not. eveo allowed. to com-u.nlct~~ te wt tb

his peopl e in Paleattne and in .A.meri c ll. Gene-ral S::ut.a aettl h,. •~'• aurp.rt aed

to b• or thlo and woul d take It up. The Oene rol eu&&eetod that Dr. llel • mann

=l&h t. ba•e to &o to Paleat1ne. Dr. l et t:=ann told h t m about IJr. !"D Gur~on,

and ·~ cablee sen t to Pale • tlne and Acerlc&. OenP rAl s~·· •aid that lr

neceaaarytht~y wnuld arrante tor ).~ra. trf:'l anMn to traTol wi th h1.rc.

Dr. !Ie h mann eald that a t ooe tl .. tbo7 had beard that Sir llou&lao

Be.rrla waa here and • Ba edvtatns on aome kind or par ti ti on acheme. General

S!l\lte bruebo4 th ie 801de and oa14: "!!S will decide".

SUJm!.nt u p , Dr. I o hmann oald they hlld dlocuose4 three polntll

(a) t be otopl"'«" of tbe arms eearc.'>es;

(b) co~~CUn lcntlono • ltb Peleotlne end A>erl ca;

(c) pro .. Ilion or traneport (aclll t!U for Mro. llo hmllnn If Dr ,

llohoann hod to t;o to Palestine ,

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l!on. ""wcn.cr .ellea , .o\S I'''i1" , J . C.

77 , ·~ AT ~ .. S7 I ' I! rr l/l" -, ··, · . r . 1 •

13th &Jeo,..bor , 1943.

Tt. ,.,ll!l •·1t-h tl i'Jep r • r"ot ";'•ttt l l llrtrno1 or ~·nur 1Ca "lnr t he OooortJn, nt

o f St '\t e. I hope you \T ! l l ror .. l•t"' a: f er troubll u · you , c von no.·, , .T llh o. mt~r~

di:u:u~&ed: bot~;-ecn ua while yo't w,. r o i n o rr1ce1 tor J aho..,l d lUre lt "-o be b r ou, .,_,

to the nt.tont\on of t~e PreoUent , 'Uld \f you arn 7:!llln- t o do tte thlo r roat

ucrvtoc , I ree l 1 hat no one 1:; o.c wCtll a.oqui'l intotl n1 t h tho aubjoct 'lG you o..ro

y •ur:olf.

2 . You will Joubt l ooo reM bo r thn~ dur l nr; r.y c onversati ons with you I

mcnt\cuted. & a chemo ror o J o i.r!•·Arn b o. r roo"!tent , or iglM 11y out ~ o me by i r . St .

John PHlby, tr<> rll - ltnown Antblon tMveller ond acholor, YJho h a persmta l

f'rlcn~ of Kior Ibn Sa •ud . Thh I br iefly r Olpellte<i ·o t h e Preoldent " hen 1 r od

the h~nour of eoolnt; h im . !'sly I r.,... l rxl you of He rm1n outline ? Tho Aro.bo

ahoul J re11nqui ah P·,leatine weot of tho Jordtul to t.ho Jc.-1• if, at that prit•o ,

enm loto lnde pen.Jence is ooeuro i t o t"ee i n all othor Arnb l'lnie ln Ac1a . :..r. i'hllby envlear ed oonaldenble tmnr f'oro of AMb po~ ula.tion. and a eompcnso.tl on of

£20/"0 ,000 wo.o tn bo pnid to 1bn ~a'ud. ·•'hen : r . Phllby f1~ot dioou::sed t>,tc

Sl"}'lt'"me w;th ee tn the a.ut\lld\ o r 1939, in t:hl) pr aence of my eolleacue .:. r . :~ramtor,

wo r•~ l io l · ~~t Jo-ry , tho~h iapoTOriohod , .. 111 be a' lo to moot t ho financial

burden , of which part would hno to t<1l<O ""o f or m nt Pnloo t lnl n go<odo, or worlc

on l and to be den loped for re-settlement of Arobo . Rut tho polit1ool part of

t he pro~- could only be lnploo:e nto4 by Great Rr 1toln anl tho iJnlted Stftteo .

3, In th•' tAlk with tho Proo1Jont yo u auao•tod ooa!ln vol onel look1n.o to

XinG Ibn Sa •ud. 1 f elt reluctant to oxproas ry doubts, but , arte r oare ful oon­

alderatlon, I wrote to you de procatinr t he ?Tooooed oho l r.e booau~• I knew Colonel

llo•klnc to be I n 5onoral out ~r oympn " y with our""""' · The :>esit lon nth r ecnrd

·o Ibn So•ud l'l!lS • • tro ely ~o ' 1ento . Ao ynu will ceo rom tho onoloood l et te r

tr<a llr. Phllby , he had put blo ochemo bo"oro Ibn Sa 'ud on J~nuary Bth, 1940 . Ibn

Sa•ud r o? l1•d thot ho "o·•ld eona ldor It , If it - to hl.r oo a fi"" offor , but

t ' at he " ould d1aa~w :·r. PhllbJ 1t t hi s a ttitude""" promturely dlwlgod . Clur

ly he teared openln~ himself to o. ttack by r1vn la in t ho Ar•b world on ac coun t or n

cc~e wh1oh ~l,ht never reach the ~ta6• or ~rnot lcal ooncido~tion.

4. After l01lv1nr America laot Ju:no , 1 hoard no mo re until th on1 of Oo tobe1

when rolonel f!osldns C&l!ll t o oeo mo har e thr eo times I n :·ovembor . llo told .,. that

he hed boon to Art.bla and Md thoro heard fo r tho firot time about t ho .'h1lby /so home

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ooheme. lie ronort<>d r. tnr, Ibn Sa •...S u ha• i nr opokon with r;r •At bltterneoa a ._, 1e r1A rlnr; t'ftt I !•1 sent •r. Phllby t o hlm with t he ortor 0 1 a br ibe , w Wll~ oontrory to hla hooour, patrio• l am, ar.d r "'li& tonJ e.nd tt<et he h'\d turnoc :·r. Z"hllby O\lt, anr! .toul·i net r ocel • hl "' In \rabia a ; alo. olo"\el !I !lkbw a l s o r eportod t an Sa 'ud as soytno t ' at the t2C,C ~ .ceo ~• t o ~ . Guaranteed \ t"e ·•nt el :lt-"l tea. Co lonel tlookina t"urth~r tn ,.ormod ae t " --t I bn Sa•ud. had. s c a ..,.! • t en a toto.:ont to the Preai•lcnt in w'llol> ~ r. Phllby !a 0\llucled t o , but • na.me1 .

s . Tho a aeort ion o.!>ou·t tho IJn t tod Stn t ea t,uaronteo for the money oom!)e

t.ion \'tnG obrl l)ut:ly lnced on a. ml so nnc eptlon eomewhore (••• abOYe, paragraph 2

I o•·null be ?rott •ltld ly li s t roacod tr the Preoldent thourht I Md used his ....,, i n t'ie conne ct ton. which wao n~or th~ c3 s e . Further. I waa aatoniehed b7 wt.

.. olonel •·toa\c1na r o"'IOrt "'d Ibn Sn•\d t o h'\vo GA 1d a bo ut r. Phi lbJ, a a I knew t h "r Phllby had rom l 01t~ ~ r;uo• t or t he T.!~ tor quite MU' a year a tter havln& ,_at '"is ao"'e-" bororo h ill:. I waa t \.ere r · ra re l ie~e<J the noa-t time I ••t Col on "'o'" ·"i M o dlaf"n"'er t '"at t""e r~ ort o ·· · r. ·"'hllby ' a .Jtsc:nce had been •~,.q

o! o"''•l ·•o '· l n., • crm deduelt lena he a 'lld ho co•Jl i not lnlrlne t,at tho Kl.D&

:-a II ""''010e b-lolc a l:llD "" hod • ur&uted so distaatet'\11 a ach- . :·r . 11ualo ~rd I dlseuued the mtter tronkly .,lth : r. r,Uby , who l>u &lao se•n Colonel i'o·.'' trw a l one . :.:r . Phil by' s viO\Y (as you " I ll ooo trnm tho enc losure ) 1o tha t olnnel '!nsl<lnn' mloolon loft 1Mtt6ro muc h •• thoy stood, am that it tho or1g!

ml snhfllme Wf\0 ofrr,r orl •· o Ibn "'a.•ud on boholt' of t he Prea1d ,Jn t and ' r . Church! )

1t wn lS ba 'lOOtJpto a .

6 . .lann I wa s t n A::r -ric a y ou wero rood onou:. h t o dlacuaa wt~h me at l e n& the Pa!ostl no questi on . I hope that you hnve no- los t the iotoreat In Pal eat!n l4D a rt'~\ i r a w loh ' " " me so r uoh enco,r Acemcn .. an:l pl aaure. !..ft.)' 1 p 1t .:y vi~• ~roro you once core in ane clal connec ti on wi t h ~r. Phllb7'• aohes.? It eoneol.ed on blr linea. tar e e nough to a"''ti~ ty tho tes l tlrate aaplratlone of k am J ws, on1 tha atrategi c an! oconooolo lnt~r·ota or t he Un!to I Statea and Bri· taln. In "'Y belief, noM or t he problo11a of tho ~.11dle E<Ut co n be e f fect nll s ettled p locomoal, but on ly by t r • otin5 t hem ~• a connootod whole. The world ! a de a ·>l y inter~oted In a olvlJV; t he J••w toh ~roblem, t ho OTerwhelm! ng .. jorlty ot ~he Ja· 1a thomsolvae desire o. Je:; l "'h Concon oalth in Paleattoo , am expeot i ta o~tabl ia~ont to nor-m lice tho poa\t.\ . n o r J t.twiJ in the ll\a pora l.on J tho 4nbe de mand completo indopendonca and rreodom to ach1o~ unity.

7. If t ho world oupporta tho J~a i n tho!r de~nd for Pale atine woot or he Jordan, lot tho Araba eoneodo It •• a ~u!~ pro quo tor tulti~nt of thei r

clo!CB everywhere ol ae . Our hor!tnge In a l oa t !no woa out down t o t he bo,. who l'rnnojordan""" tel>'\r oted In 1922. ·hat Ia left, 1a oloarly a unit, a nd t'llrthar :>art ltlon of It woul 1 deprive the aett l....,nt or rinality. I t tha whole ot wea t · om Palest I no h loft to us, we plan t o arry out a Jordan Do.,.lopoent So- • "' r os t e-l to us by Arorl ~n n oorta. Thh wo"l:l a loo benortt tho Arab land on the western bo.nk, an:l f l\ci llto.te tran.ote r G or populet i on . A. a c~ eme on such lAr&• linea wou ld be r.r•otly helped by t ho booking of an outatnndinr, per sonality in th• Ar'l.b world , euoh !\O lbn Sa• ud . I t:horerore t e8l . i n soite ot ":olone l !foalciDa ' adverse r~port. thAt, pr operly .. nftted. ~. Ph\~by · • ache~ o t e ra an a pproach whlch ohould not be abondonod w1th out tw-thor e~ ploro tio.n.

Yow-a Tery a inoo re]J . S 1£:ood •• • •• CH. .7EI 7. ' *.A".Jif.

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IIIWTJ OF co!IV~10ll r.ua COLO!IEL B.liiOLD aosx:urs Stnto Dapartaoot '&lildiag-- 'lathiq:ton, D. C.

Dec .. ber 28,1943

Col. l!0ol<1~>~ , Dr. Ooldm&nn

I QSIIL

Dr. Goldaoum went to tee Col. Hoalc1na at tho latter' • 111Titnt1011.

Col. Hook ina said bo bed retur1>1d fro10 Lond.on 1\bout tan d.o,ye a&O. Be hod aoeo Dr · WoiZlllann anorol ti=ee a.nd he hod asked Col. Boalci na to get ln touch w1 th Dr. Golc!Jwln. Be hod r eported to Dr. 'lehmaNl on the reeult of hit Tialt to lhll S~ and wanted to giYO Dr. Gol4mann the ea=e r eport. Be bod discusted the Zionitt probl• with Ibn Ssl.4 llJld hod prO]>oiOd to hie on behol! of the American go?erument that Ibn Snud, or one of hie repreaen­tat1Yea, meet with Dr. We1~ano. or other repreaentat1••• of the Jewish jgOtlC1 !or Palestine. I'tm Saud bod refueed on two acoree-- flrat , because of bta ~eneral\y antegon1~t 1c atti tude toward Z1on11Q, and, second, becauae Sir John Phil by h:ui coae to aoa him 1!1 1941 o.nd, on behalf' of Dr. • e1%Z!I..B4n hod of fared b.i.a 20 million po\lJ:ld.a {or dollu1, the fi«U-re escapee c&oo-N'G} , which he regarded o.a a person.ol 1nault to him. lhen Col. H0 skina sa-w Ibn Stl)l.d. he dili not kilo• ..t>nt tho aetunl facta were nnd le:uued them only later in h1a conTers~t1ons with Dr . l elzmann.

'lha rool otory 1o tho.t Sir John Philb,y eu,:;eeetoli to Dr. Weizm&llll that he bo outhori:eli to d1acuss with I bn Saud the queetion of a loD.Il for t ho devalop...,nt of Saudi .Arabia; the.t Dr . WeiZllla.nn had diecuoaed tbie prc>poeai with llrltioh of!iciol• c.nd hod told Phil by thnt if Ibn S(llld would. help tbe J ewe. 1 t thould not be l.aapoaat ble that. such a loo.o. be arranged. It appeared thc.t Philb,y,wbo had apent aenra! contha in Saudi .Arabill without nchie'fiag e..Q~'thing, did not tell l ho SoW! tbe.t tho idea of tho loon originated w1h hiolaolt.

Col. Hoalcille said that Dr. Wei:mc.nn felt that tho Prooidont should be 11lfol'lled of the reol tecta c.nd hod wanted to give Col. Bool<iue a cuorc.ndum to bo oubm1tted to tho P res111ent, but elnce Col. lloakino left J!o&le.ud a fow dqo before hie ocheliuled departure the mol:1ornndum was not roadJ'. Be expects to get it thr vu;;h tho .&mericc.n Jmbasoy in Lolllion. In ~ c~ae, Boakl na concluded, it l a cleor from hia talke with lbn Saud that tho 111oa of ualng hi• aa an intermed1<U7 wna a miotako c.nd that door auot be r ogordeli aa definitely cloaeli.

Dr. Ooldaoum eaid thle wae no ou.rpriee to the Jswieh .lgenc7. ja Col. Boak1na m1gbt recall, in conTersationt with him and with Wr. 16.\rr"f, Dr. Goldmann hnd. eaid that tho Agency wae 1110re then okopticol about I ho Saud ' s taking a moderato otnnd; that llr. Shertok had wo.rned against the •hole idea. However. eince the State Department thought them •os a chnllce, tho .lgeDCy did not thl.nlc it ehould prnont their trying it.

Col. lloeki na oaid that t he id ... about Ibn Saud had ori;;lnateli with llr. lburcbill who hod di acuseed it with Dr. llehmtulJI in 1940. For thil re .. on the Prea1dont, after recoiTint; hie report, thOUGht that llr. <hurcbill end. the llrl tieh go .. orn..ent, "' well "" Dr. 11oiz= ehoulli oe info .. od diroctly by Col. Hoskins nbout the failuro of his mission; 1 t • aa tor thia reo.aon he bad been aent to LoDdon.

Coi. Hoskine oaili tbnt now the e1 tuntion wns clnr11'ied -a.n4 other e.vesee of opproo.cll will ho.Ye t o be tou.od. to br1DB about an understaDdiag between J 1 • • and.. ~abe .

'!'be tolk \ h .., turned to tho generol o1tuntion ~'bout

REGBAD"·, ,. -o ... , ......... ...

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p.a .. u.... Col. lloald11o eeJ.d be bad tallcod. with lW'1 Pub& d otber .U.b

lea4ere il1 Qt.lro e.a4 bod ooo11 lloOIQZ'lo11 111 .r ol'laal•l bo aloo ba4 bad

" loag tallc witb Shertok i11 CeJ.ro. 011 hh wq b- troa 311141 J.rabia,

111 • ...,tod. to go bo.dt to Joruo61• to eeo llell!PU'iOI1 e.a4 Sbortok, but 111

llo.ur. be cot .. coolo aak1Dil b1a to r.turn iaaod.lllhly. •• cot t he t.-

p r .. olol1 froa hie tallco wt<b tbo J.ral> loa4en tb,.t l t obol>ld 110\ be t.­

poe alble to brt.ag abcn1t a pe.acet\al aolut1on ot the Palestlu probl­

tbro"':l> "" \Ul4orat..nd1ag -tUAl1y o.cceptablo to both puUeo . Be tho~t

the Jaerlca co-.ernm:Wlt could be •ery ueetul in \h11 reepeo\ l\1 the J.rllha

ha•• creo.t coDildence ln "=-*r-lca.. '

Dr. Oolc!Jw>o oeJ.d tb.>t o11>Ce tho becl.lm1oc of the wu, tho .r .. iob

Jca11C7 bod tl!lcm the pooitiol1 tbat America and .lllcle.a4 eh01Ud cooperate

ln oocur1ag a oolut1on to tho P61eat1u probl•• !be Acenc:r 11ner b ..

lle,.d 111 plq1llc .&Mrlca off OCa1110t Great :SriteJ.n, but dld bel10'Fe ,e.a4

·~• encour01..S. b7 •&.aT of 1tt beat fr1en4e lo Grol\t BZ'1t~n , that tt wou14

be 41ff1eult t or BriteJ.D to flod. a. way out ot contradictorJ cocudt.ente.

and lt ~ould be eaaler tf there were Joint Anglo-ADertcan ree~ne1b1l1ty.

Col. Bosldno o61d be tully ocreod. wUh tbh nt tltud.o 8lld that

web wo.e the aaio pu.rpoae be an4 o there he4 1dl.o wt,&eat·ed. the Jotnt etat~

aent about Pal .. tlllo t o be luuod. 117 ~rlcn 8lld Onnt :Srlt eJ.n. Be

oa1d: •I k110w you wore oca1n.ot lt alld !ball1 prnontod. it . :&t I would

like you t o k110w IIY aotifto: I would not """' :you alld your triel>d.o to

tbiok 1 wo.a anti- Z1ol11ot. • 8 0 ea1d be talt thnt web " otot61Dct woul4

oaot the ,.., .. o1 tu.:.tlon in P61eot1ne ud. would brlllc .America det111Htly

loto the picture o.a reod.7 to toke a ha.Dd in the eolutlo.a. ot t.b.e PaleeUne

queat1on..

Dr. Gold-= ea1d tb,.t tbo 1lltct to briag .AMrica 1llto tho

ICID.I wa.a Ctrta.l~ 1-.iable, but tor th.11 purpGII it W&e GOt DICIIIU7

to 1eaue such a atat•ent aa waa cont.-plated. It wae unacc~pttlble for

three roaoOI11l {1) the Z1onhtt d.ld 110t agree wi tb the eYalunHon ot tho

P61u t111e 11tunt1on at boi,_ on tho O'Fe of c1T1l war, with tbo .Tewo reody

t o p roYoke d.loturb...,.... Dr. Ool.d.ll:w> ea1d be knww that Col . llooklllt

felt that wq boclll.lee he ba4 oet11 b1o rwport, but tbo\~Cht that tho

p icture wao exaggerated aa4 rntbor broterlcal. !be tact that 11oarly a

yenr bad paaood without ozzy dloturbanceo obould co11•1llco hia that be

• a• too feutul.

Col . Boald.Jlo oa1d tbat l)r, Oold.llonn 111&:bt be rlcl>t , bot he

bel lev.t the e1tUA~ ion waa attll tenae and •entioned repo~a of the

killi.JI& of J e•• end. Arllbl 111 recent weeka. ao.,.crrer. he eaid.., hla •ot1Tt

••• a gonulllo dooire t o prnent anythl~>S obich would interfere witb the

war t.tfo rtt 1D wb1c:h J)r. Oold:a&DD W&a Ctrlain.lr .. 1Dtereatecl e.e he,.

{2) ~ joint otat011o11t botwoon Aoerlca and Great :Srlt&111,

Dr. Ooldmanll pobtod out, obich dooo not 1lld.lcato that the lb1to Paper

polley 1s chaagod., -•t be regazdod. ae an ondor••••t of that pol1C]'

b7 t.he .A.Derictu:a co·Yerm:aeut.

{3) '!be wn.rninc to .T0wa and J.rabo co11t&1ud 111 tho otat•mt

to dlecontlnue public d1ecuee1on would neTer baTe been cccepted by Je••

1D t b1a country or otber countrlea: on the eootrer,r, 1\ would haTe

""tecol11sod. .J ... aDd crutod. a br.acll bet •eu tho ol4a1A1otraU oo alld

.J o•hb public opil11oo, •bleb obould cor\ &1611 be a'foidod..

It, Dr. Oold.llann oa1d, the lll'iUob alld .&aorico.. coftmaeoh

ahou.l4 la•u• a. atat••ot th&t 't ltb. •a.r·e r•~ to act JolA\11 to eol••

the probla and that a new policy would -.,. lAltiat·ed 1D clu• eou.ree, DO -on ...

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e i¢,ii e."

0110 woul4 obJect t o 1\. ..t f or \bo roaoo110 alrolld.T g hOID, tho ot nt•w

u 1t lu4 boon clroft-.l • a• cortaJ.al.7 a oat o~ecUoublo • .. Holklna aeJ.d tba\ t.be matter ••• DO loacv/ real laaue : a 4 .c1a1oa.

had alrao4J' boon a-.lo e,aJ.110t hh poo1Uoll. llo•01'or , ho had raJ.a-.l

it onl7 to txpl aln that WbateTer tht 41tterencee, h11 mot1••• ••r• not &llti.-Z1on1ot. Eo aaJ.d hi o onl7 aJ.a wu to bo ua-.l ,.a a aodiator botwoon

J ewo and # abo &ll4 t o h olp \b• roach a poa1U.,. ecro-oDt.

Dr. Ooldaa= oaJ.d \hh wu ocaJ.n Y0'7 la>dablo, but that 1A

order f or hi• t o pl~ IUC~ a role , be COUi4 not a 1TI the 1Dpreaa1on th~t

ho waa b1ao-.i ocaJ.DOt tho Z1on1 oto and all Z1on1oto had t hat 1.arpreao1on,

Dr. Ooldmo.nn d.ff• b.i• at t.ent1on t o •o.r1oue convereo.tiona "1 t h Senatore and ..,14 that / !:1on1ota would ha .. to roclU'd bl.a u hoatllo , he could not

pl0o1r tho rolo which ho •llllt-.i to plOo/r.

;!r, Ooldlwm thon aak-.l wbothor ho t h""l'bt tho tl.ao had come

tor d1ocuoo l olll in LondoD betweeD t he Z1on1oto ADd tne Jr1tltb about the

tlD.el ooluUon.

Eo aa14 he \bCNCbt t.be tlDo •sa rllj)l dly AJ>!>roach1nc wbon ouch

cllocuaaloao could start and \hat tho British nHl twlo that th117 werw 1>0\ 7et roo4J' tor ouch d1aoun1ono •ao bogl.nnill!l t o oh<lngo.

Ho kne8 t hnt Dr. Goldaann ""' plMnl na to go to London and

said tbnt there he would cet a real p ict ure ot tho a1tunt1on end would aleo renl i:e that the ooaent tor 41acuea1~ an ultiaate aolution

"n• c:p roaching. He enid he bad &lao reed n&aOra o! soce part! tlon ochEGo to be disc:uu-.i by vnr1ouo British ottleialo end aslc-.i what

the Z1ot\1a t poa l tton wM.

Dr. Gold.s:mnn explained whf Zion.lsta were non 1na1atin,e on

t ho coxhwa tu"e& in the flhole of Pole atin.e-- t h• probl em ia no lon&er

on• ot gr-.d\&Al. o.nd •low 1=:11gre tion: ~ter thia war the probl• wil-l

be one ot aua trMAft r of homeleaa and uprooted. Jewa aDd a am.oll p:uot

ot Peltet iM would not eerYe the purpo ae .

Col. lloelclno oaid. he \ilollll:bl the Arab loudors undorotood thnt

t.l':e i'i'hit.e Ptpo1· poli cy would not atau4.; on the other halld . the Jewa

Olll>not ...-poet th&t 100~ ot tbolr d•ud• would bo oatlotl-.l. So:>o

coneeaaione arq hATe \o be a.cde t.o J.ra.o d8Clln4e.

Dr. Ooldmonn oa14 t.ho.t once tbe J.ra'bo rocoj;nhed the right

ot the J o"• to r eturn to Palestine, n bnala nould be found for ogreemont

wi th them. However, d1ocuoaion 11 ot no use, to long ca \ hey 4o not ltllow th• t tho policy of tho .Towioh llntlonol !loloo • Ul bo OUj)J-<>rtocl ey Aaor1ea &ll4 Great »rlta1n. Once th117 know tbh, t hey wlll bo r~ to

ro<.Ch na ogrooaant; but oo loDoi "' tbo7 thiok t ht>t ..._rica aDd Groat

Jrlta1n will adhere to tho 11hhe PNer polic7, thoro 1o no baolo for

agreement.

Col. Hoald.no oa14 be ocroed w1t.h tblo IUld that tho aain p robl.,

• .., for Aaor1ca and Groat Br1 tal.n t o work out a t ormb.

l)r, Gold.aann oa14 tb~t tho Z1on1oto ohould bo kopt lllfol:'lled

nbout ouoh a tonnula and. not bo fac-.i w1 th a f ait accoapl1 .

Col. HollklDO oaJ.d he would rema.lD 1n laohi~ton and .:oul• ~.

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glcd if Dr. Goldmann would keep in touch with him.

Before lea,.ing Dr. Goldmann lll$e an appointment for Dr. Sil ,.er.

1he inteniew l ne ted an hour and a half.

Waeh incton, D. c.

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Judge Samue 1 'loae,.....n , The :n. ito !louu, 71ASHII1GTO!I, D. C.

Till: Jt:::r-;H .~ E!!CY FO'l PALEST !ICC:, 77 , G~'AT R'JSSELL srn>:ST, trl:JOI! , :-~ . c . I .

I ha ~• b~~n anxtou5 ~o writ• t you for so~ waeke now. but have felt

t~ het-t.,r to Wll lt ror" rood opoortu.n l ty.

First or All, l ·Kanted to let yoJ lc: '""ow ao~'f!thln& of the "Ko1k:lns story'

of which you Ny have heard ao.--ne echoos 1n Waehlngton . and I think I oannot do

bstter thnn send :ou tho account or reoent deve l opmonts at t h is end whioh I wrote

down for •<r . Su•ner 1'/ollea in a letter dated Dooembor 13th. I attaoh a oopy of

thil letter, with tho enclosure by V.r . St . John Philby. (llr. Ph lby, who h a

c rsat Arabic 1cholAr and traveller, has boon connected rlth Ibn Sa'ud tor nlDY

years; he is. I bel1no ,a treat friend of the Kin&). 'T!lough I addreued the

letter to Mr . SW'Inor \Volloa , it is , as you will roo.llae, intended tor the Proside1

to whoM I 'Na.s anx\1ua to expl&i:'l that 1.t waa not by us t'"a t hi a n.&me had been so

gratuitously introduood into the ma t ter or tho ~UArontoo. Ibn Sa•ud•a ohange of

ottitudo as r opo rted by Co lonel Hoskina, may I think be due to tho long delay

between the ori&in&l mention of tho idea and Colonel Hoakina' ~!oit (tho tirat

dlaca a•!on with J.:r . Ph!lby ...... three yoara a go)J or to tho faot thot Colonol

Hoakina • ..,. without tho "firm offer " whloh the King expooted1 or - in my ~iow

very probably - to the int~rvention or oertftin representatives or the oil oompa-

nioo whioh hold important oonceaslono in Saudi Arabia, and whioh moat provide I bn

Sa •ud with a conoidora ble !noome1 tho &atiT!tioo of auch companlea in the ll!ddle

/&at

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East a r e, in my oxp~r1eno o, usually anti- Jowiah . 1n tr~:y own view, the aondtn.s

or Ros1c1n:s to tbn Sa • ud was a e er 1 oua mistake: he C"lm& &mp ty .. hand&d , and qu ite

unprepared - s.nd ho 1a in an:y e•1ont nono too IIY!!Ip4t:het1c • I did 'Mlrn Mr. Sumner

Welles a bout this in tL letter which I wro te him before loavln& America - of wh ioh

ybu can t ot a copy from. Mr. t~yor 'tloisgal.

I thi nk tho let"tor to Plr . 'Nelles c o·:e r s t ho l"()at of tho Hoekine s tory

- so filr as it 1a knO'H!l to us hor ? . I should perhaps add thot tho "p lan" which

ra. Phllby ment1onod to the Klrv thr oe ~ara a inca was a lao mcnt 1onod t o mo ,

quito t rd.cpen:lently , and wit..~out any knowledge of Mr . Philby•s views, by the Primo

Minister, am this is why I have a.lwaya a. t !nched oonaidorablo importance to i t.

Sinoo my r ~ turn to London I have sden quito a numb9r 'of peopl e: the

?r i rre Minister, t.!r . Attlee, Piel d -Jlo.rsha1 Smuts , a.nd of course the Colon ial

s.,oretary (several timotJ) - ape.rt fi'om aorno other members or th., Cabinet. No

very p r ecise information was m.o.de a va i lablo to me, but ary impr e ss ion 1a that

th8r e &r e the followin; " pr obabilities" i n th8 a ir:

1 ) It seems to be ass Lmad that tho Whito Paper c Annot be roa i nta i ned

(though I'm suro t hat the Pale= tine Administration wou ld do - a_od is doing ..

everything in 1 ts ponor to mai ntain the i'thlt e Pa per pol icy), arvl t hat a omothing

ol4e, at present ~speci fied , wi l l r eplace it . It may be that tho idea of partl-

t ion i e to be r evived. Suoh a s olution at thie t ime would ~ I boliovo, b& neither

just nor fiMl , nor could it be: a c,r Ped to by the Jewiah pe ople. I do not kllow

whethe r any definite docis !on htt.e been reached or not, though I ga thered !"rom

hints dr c ppod by Field-MaraM l Smute that our affair s wore disc ua,sed at the

r 5cont mAetinr;s . and no doub t t he Pr e side nt ·.ma i n the pictur e - wh te; makes me

very happy .

2) Hints are a lso being droppad in various quartore that tho decision

.. • h&tovo r it mn.y be, will be "imposed" on both stdee, and not pr evious ly d la­/ouo aed

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ou11ed with Ul or the Araba.

!he elocaent 1.n t he pre1tnt a ltua~ion wh.1ob worrlea ua 11.oat 11 the

growinc bittarneea between the Brltiah Administration i n Pa1oatlne and tho dow1ah

CCBDunlty . It at•• · ot courae, oa!n 1y f"r.o:= t h e lrhi to ~per ( to which, a a already

mon tlo nod , the l ootll offlc lala would like t o a1here i nch,rtnitel y ) , and rr oo all

that ..... hllppened. t o u.s in the last r ow y,.s rs: t ho ~· the ~. the eva-

euatlt)n of r etUc:.••• f r..- A.thltt t-o tur '.\;.~.~ . t~ r ·c nt trh l ~ '!M afl!a•chea t or

arms, with the a&nge sentenoea in:lpoood oa our people (in 1 triking contraat to

t he tri•lal puniahment meted out to hundr~da or Arabs guilty of similar and more

eeriou a offettcea ) - all thh , wit h lnn•orable IMll a nd lar~er chicaner l ee onr

a period or yean, ha.s contributed to 8X&I£Htr8.t ollt t ho Je-Ki sh popula.tlon . I M:vo

dot"B •Y utmos t - not, I believe, without ao~e mea eure or au~coea - t o hold thiqt

steady, atk:l have just r ecently i nvited delegation• t'roJa Palee tine ard t'rcc t he

St&toa to meet 1.n London l n •rder to dhcu.s e t he m-.ole s itua.tlon and the poeaible

dool et oo.a or whtoh w rDAY be 1ntor mad . J o!lJ1not e ,.pha.siae t oo etrong1y that our

moat ~diato anx iety is to pr event t he occurr ence in Pa leatlno or lnoldents

wh \ t'Jh !'!t~!' r r , ... j~' ' ' <" O any fUt ur o arrnnr;""m"n s . Jln.ny Aroo r i cana r e turning rrom

Paleo tlno are. I tear (lilat _,y of ttle British ) uncluly IUicl adYoroe ly io.t'lueococl

by tM locftl Admlnlat :ation, and any t.htng whic}l ou be done trc:n the berican

aide to oount eraot this would be ot g reat value. For tho l& at year or 10 we hATe . be e n hearlng troa Britiah ud A:::erioan e ourcea that nerythlnc lo Palee ~ ine is

worki~ up for a clash between Jovrs a nd Arabs. On tho other hand. 111t'O u ndoratand !

trOll ~ny aourooa t hat r el.Ationa between Jns and Araba - &t any rate in ordinA.l"y

day-to~y interoourae - a r o lJiprort~, uxl t heae panicky report• h&Ye no real

j uotlticatlon. For myael r , 1 Ml qu lte auro tha t talki ,Qb t~.bout olAahet h the

beat "'*Y of brlnrlflb them a bout . UMertftl n~ h 1\ ho s tertt l tt br ""odlnt - &round

/ t or

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.. ·" .. for unn•t~ ttt. •ooner a detl.Dlb deohioa h taken, aad • ooutr\14ti're pollay

&MouneM , the better tor •Y-tr~n• · Thot Prt.11• ~h-b"r r tchU7 anaoh•• urt.

,,...t.et t.portanM to oo:-re~t U.atnc (u )'0\t •Y ••• tr• tM &ftolot M note ot

ay talk wtth hta) , -.ad we -.oUild •u••, wer• lt aot that,.. r .. r Wl&t clela7 •:r

play l r to the baed• or tho dull: rorou op rat.l~ Ia that pa.rt or t.ht wor l4 ...

for cet anxloue to provoke a olash , e nd FUtftt &117 coMtr uo\tft , .,lvUoa ..

Juat a • l lt"" .laerlC. 1 hMrd . to 11iJ p>Mt db\ ... 11 0 t.h&\ J'W wt "

oot well, 10 t~at 1 oou14 not •~e you to ••Y ,oodbye . I &a .erJ ~ppy to learn

U.t- you are back •~ work a c.ata ~ the be"•\ po .. tble etp o t CUll r .oonry.

I send you "'Y nry b at whhu tor a happy ~ • • Year, and look forward to

hearll'lft hcr)'O'II 100n .

',flth ltlni p•reortAl r t&&rd• , t ..

Very elacar.ly ,..._,,

<51 I \1~' , ' "' .. ' -~ • ·:.· f"4'-tn· . .. . ,.,....,. .. ,.. •• .~)'

diltanu ahe"d .

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Jell! tl; :. ·encv for l'u l cotinE ('ce ~~~· nn)

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dn t 11tl llovcob~·r aevun~ountll .

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