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Grace & Blessings
Volume - 2 / Issue - 5 ` 15 Annual Subscription ` 180 May 2014
DeutschlandGuttural gumption
of the German tribe
Epitome of discipline,
the very mechanics of skill
Even the wily English
took a deutsche queen
But the German dream
lies waste consequent
to one man’s wanton
acts of unparalleled tyranny
May the world not breed
another one of his kind
Never, Ever, Never.
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Isha Forest Flower – ONLINE!
Editorial
Dear Readers,
Sadhguru maintains that if we want to live sensibly and evolve spiritually, we constantly need
to remind ourselves of our mortality. Therefore, in this edition, we focus on this inevitable part
of our lives that most people rather not even think about - death. In our Lead Article, “Where
the Body Ends,” Sadhguru reveals why enlightened beings through the ages (including Shiva
himself) have mostly lived withdrawn from the world rather than working with the living, why
death can be a great possibility, and how to approach it in order to make use of it.
When asked about Sadhguru, lyricist Prasoon Joshi once said in an interview, “He doesn’t shy
away from debating issues. He’s always ready to answer those questions. He’s very different
from many other Gurus I’ve seen in India.” In the latest edition of our In Conversation with theMystic series, “Death & Beyond” with Prasoon Joshi, Sadhguru proves just that. Enjoy the frst
part of a fresh and eclectic exploration that alleviates some of the obscurity that this subject is
otherwise shrouded in.
In a recent darshan, a meditator raised the question why, according to Sadhguru, 70% of disease
are mind-created. Read in our Musings article, how, as Sadhguru put it, we unconsciously cook
up a “Poisonous Soup” within ourselves, and how it affects our body. Our recommendation at
the height of the mango season is a liquid of a positively nourishing kind – a tradition Kairi Panha
in three variations – with raw, cooked, or charcoal-roasted mangoes!
Last but not least - Sadhguru will be back at the Isha Yoga Center from 18 to 24 June for a whole
week of three-hour evening darshans. Make sure to save the dates!
The Editorial Team
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CONTENTS
Lead Article
Where the Body Ends
Sadhguru on the Essence of Life and Death 4
Musings
A Poisonous SoupSadhguru on the Main Source of Illness 9
Isha Hata YogaSadhguru on How to Enhance Your Sadhana
Part 5: Why Empty Bowels are Essential for Hata Yoga Practice 11
Leela Series
The path of the playful – part LV:Life on Fast-Forward 13
In Conversation with the Mystic
Death & Beyond – part 1 Sadhguru in Conversation with Lyricist and Writer Prasoon Joshi 16
Sadhguru Spot
On the RoadExcerpted from Sadhguru Spot of 2 April 2014 19
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time trying to think what happens beyond death,
because that is not the realm of your mind.
The only way to know is through pragna, as we
would call it in Indian languages. In English, wewould say “awareness.” but do not take the word in
its normal sense. If you are aware, you have a way
of knowing things without thinking about them,
without getting information about them. If you are a
close observer of life around you, there are so many
things that every creature knows without thinking
about them. Actually, if you had to think about it,
you would not even know how to breathe. It simply
happens. That is not your intelligence – that is the
Creator’s intelligence. If such a complex machine
like your body was left in your management, it
would be a disaster.
A whole lot of things happen without your
assistance, understanding, or thoughts. Pragna is
beyond thought. Pragna is that which is the very
source of creation. If you nd access to that, you
can cross what we think is the boundary between
life and death. Actually, there is no boundary – you
are living and dying right now. Somebody is here
today, tomorrow he is gone (which means he is
dead) – that is only on the social level, in the limited
experience and perception of people. But in terms of
life, in terms of existential process, there is no such
thing as living and dying. It is all Leela – a play.
When we say that this is all divine play, it does not
mean the Divine is a sadistic force playing with
your life. We call it a play because everything is
intertwined. Existentially, you cannot separate
it is the same thing continuing to play. We say life is
a play because it cannot be separated. What you call
an individual and what you call the universal cannot
be separated. What you call atomic and what you
call cosmic cannot be separated.
The only problem that I have with people is that
they lack the needed intensity. If they were intense
enough, we would not have to work towards the
ultimate for a lifetime – today, the work could be
done. The moment of death or the possibility of
death is the most intense experience in most human
beings’ lives. Most of them would have never
touched that level of intensity throughout their
lives. In their love, in their laughter, in their joy, in
their ecstasy, in their misery – nowhere else do they
touch that level of intensity – only in death.
Because of that, Shiva went and sat in the cremation
ground or kayanta, waiting. Kaya means “body,”
anta means “ending.” Kayanta means “where the
body ends” – not “where life ends.” It is a kayanta,
not a jeevanta. All that you picked up on the planet,
you have to leave behind. If you have lived in such
a way that your body is all you know, then the
moment when you have to shed it becomes the most
intense moment of your life. If you know something
beyond the body, it is not of great signicance. For
one who has realized the nature of who he is and
what he is, kayanta is not such a great moment. It is
just one more moment – that’s all. But for those who
lived just as a physical body, when the time to part
with all that you know as yourself comes, it is going
to be a very intense moment.
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as realization, not as an accomplishment or
achievement. If you see it, it is there for you. If
you do not see it, it is not there for you. It is only a
question of perception – no fundamental, existential
change. If you are equipped, not with the senses, butwith your pragna, then you know not only the kaya
but the jeeva, and you are naturally immortal. You
do not have to work towards your immortality. You
just have to realize that this is the way it is.
So, Shiva shifted his residence to kayanta or
shmashan. Shma refers to shava or corpse, shan
refers to shanya or bed. Where the dead bodies
lie, that is where he resides, because he realized
working with living people is a waste of time. You
cannot get them to the pitch of intensity that is
needed. You have to do so many tricks to make
people a little intense.
Intensity does not arise because you have made the
instinct of survival the biggest thing within you.
There are two fundamental forces in this living
body. One is the instinct of survival – another is
the longing to expand limitlessly. If you empower
the instinct of survival, it always tries to play low,
because survival means playing safe. If you empower
the longing to become limitless, if you are seeking
limitless expansion, if that is what all your energy is
focused on, then there will be full intensity of life.
The instinct of survival is dominant in every othercreature. With the phase of evolution where we
have become human, a higher level of awareness
and intelligence has entered into our lives – this is
the time where the instinct of survival can be kept
Whenever people ask me questions about death and
what happens after death, I keep reminding them
that it is best to know it by experience. I am not
suggesting they should die. What I mean is, you must
experience the jeeva, the life within you. If you onlyexperience the body, then whatever I say, you will
come to wrong conclusions. If your experience of
life is limited to your mental and physical structures,
you cannot access this dimension. Death and that
which is beyond it are not a secret that is hiding
somewhere in heaven or hell – it is right here, rightnow. It is just that most human beings have never
paid enough attention because they are too busy
with other things.
Their career is much more important than their
life. Their love affair is much more important than
their life. A petty problem they have with someonenext to them is far more important than their life.
What clothes they wear is way more important
than their life. These are just examples. Because you
have wrong concepts about life, life is eluding. But
actually, life is not eluding – you are dodging life.
Life is not trying to avoid you – you are trying toavoid it in so many ways.
The bitter, painful experiences of life were never,
ever caused by life. They were only caused by your
inability to manage your mind and your body. Life
has never caused any pain or suffering to you. It is
just the body and the mind. You do not know how
to manage your mental structure and your physical
structure. Two wonderful instruments were given
to you, but you are messing it up. All the pain and
suffering have come from yourself, not from life
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Shiva is sitting at a place where life makes utmost
sense. But if you are fearful, if you are on survival
or self-preservation mode, this will not make sense
to you. Only if you are longing to expand and touch
the ultimate, it will make sense to you. He is notinterested in those who want to survive. To survive,
you just need four limbs and a few working brain
cells. Whether they are earthworms, grasshoppers,
or any other creature – they are all surviving, doing
ne. That is all the brain you need to survive. So if
you are in survival mode, if self-preservation is the
most dominant thing in you, he is bored with you –
he is waiting for you to die.
He is referred to as the destroyer not because he
wants to destroy you. He is waiting at the cremation
ground so that the body is destroyed, because until
the body is destroyed, even people around do notrealize what death is. You may have seen that when
someone dear to them dies, people will fall all over
the dead body, hug it, kiss it, try to bring it back to
life – many things. But once you set re to the body,
no one ever goes and hugs the ames. Their instinct
of self-preservation tells them this is not it.
This is not a question of right and wrong but of
limited sense versus ultimate sense. Is it wrong to
be limited? No. But it is painful to be limited. Is it
wrong to be in pain? No. If you enjoy it, what is my
problem? I am not against anything. The only thing
that I do not like is if you want to go in one direction,but you are going in the opposite direction. If you
want to go in the opposite direction, it is okay with
me. But if let us say you sit in a car and you want to
go forward, but you go into reverse and back up, this
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have a nice, warm shower, you will sing a cinema
song. If we put you in the cold kund 1 – “Shiva!
Shiva!” The moment there is difculty, Shiva comes
to your mind. When life is going the way you want
it, you will think of all kinds of people and all kindsof things. If someone puts a gun to your head –
“Shiva! Shiva!” He is the wrong guy to call. He is
waiting at the cremation ground. If someone puts a
gun to your head, and you call Shiva to save you – he
will not.
Every life is aspiring to go forward. The more
conscious it becomes, the more it wants to go
forward. The less conscious it is, the less the
longing, but even if just in little ways, everyone
wants to move forward in life, whatever they think
is forward. If forward is how you want to move and
you are in reverse gear, that is the only problemwith me. Otherwise, wherever you go, I have no
issue. Because wherever you go, you are still within
creation – you cannot leave it. You are still in the
hands of the Divine. But it can happen easily that
you go backward in the process of life. You know
Charles Darwin told you, you were monkeys atone time and you became human. This is seen as a
forward movement. But a whole lot of people act
like monkeys or other creatures, having the same
compulsions that other creatures have.
A dog is peeing all over the place not because he has
a urinary tract problem – he is building his empire.If you have the same instinct, that all the time, you
are trying to set your boundaries, within you and
around you, it is an evolutionary downscale. You
are trying to go backward. If you try to go backward,
trying to curtail life and turn it backward.
Trying to turn it backward is the one thing that will
not work with life. If you run forward, whichever
direction you go, whatever you want to do – yousing, you dance, you meditate, you cry, you laugh –
as long as it takes you towards a higher level of
intensity, it will all work. If you try to roll it back,
it does not work. Sitting in the cremation ground,
this is Shiva’s message: even if you die, it will work,
but if you curtail life, it will not work. The question
whether you curtail life or allow life to happen does
not depend upon what you do and what you do not
do, but upon how effervescent and how intense this
life process is right now.
It is not a question of whether what you do is
useful or not. If you can bring intensity into uselessthings, it will still work. But you need meaning for
everything that you do. Unless it is meaningful,
unless it is useful, you cannot throw yourself into
it. In that context, meaningfulness and usefulness
are important. Otherwise, meaningfulness and
usefulness are essentially psychological. They are an
inspiration, not an end in themselves.
Those of you who are looking for the meaning of
life – life does not have any meaning. It is too great a
phenomenon to t into any meaning. It can neither
be contained in a dictionary, nor a Gita, a Bible,
nor any other book. It is a phenomenon beyondall that. It is phenomenon beyond what your mind
can contain. It includes everything. There is no
such thing as life and death. It is neither life nor
death – it is just a play of all these things. You can
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A P SpSadhguru on the Main Source of Illness
The following is an excerpt from a darshan with
Sadhguru at the Isha Yoga Center, Coimbatore,
Tamil Nadu, India, on 20 March 2014.
Questioner: Sadhguru, Namaskaram. You
mentioned in previous discourses that 70% of all
illnesses are mind-created. If that is so, what would
be the emotional pattern and the thought pattern
behind it, and how to correct that?
Sadhguru: You sound like a disciple of Freud. Only
recently, certain letters became public domain thatshowed how hollow this man was who is seen as the
father of modern psychoanalysis. This is not the way
to approach it.
To give you a simple analogy – suppose your right
hand was acting funny, beating you up, strangling
and torturing you every day – would this not be
sickness? For sure it would be. That is exactly what
your mind is doing. It is acting funny, hurting you,
poking you, making you cry, making you suffer –
is this not sickness? But too many people are with
you – you can form an army of sick people. When
there is an army in front of you, sick or otherwise,there is no point in arguing with them – just bow
down to them and keep going. That is what most
enlightened beings have done – they just closed
their eyes and sat.
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limited control about what we eat, what we drink,
what we breathe – all that is somewhat poisoned.
The world is trying to poison you in some way, but
if you are not only on industrial help but on self-
help, depending upon how hard you strive, you willsucceed. You know, “self-help is the best help.”
Ancient societies always saw disease as something
wrong – a human being should not be in any state
of illness. But modern societies are treating disease
as normal, because there is a whole industry that
thrives on it. The second largest industry on the
planet is pharmaceuticals, which means there is
too much lousy soup. Every day, you have to add
something to it to make it nice. If you are willing,
we can make this into a wonderful soup, without
external chemicals. Once your chemistry is in a
fantastic state, to be blissful will be natural. That
way, 70% of the ailments could vanish from the
planet. For the remaining 30%, there are many
external inuences, which are not always in your
control. But what you are doing from within can be
100% in your control.
If you are constantly creating a nasty chemistrywithin you, how is life within you supposed to
understand that you are seeking wellbeing? It will
assume you like ailments and will give them to you.
Some people may have a robust system that will take
a lot of beating – some people will fall at the very
rst assault. But if you are poisoning your systemfrom within through the thoughts and emotions
that you generate, sooner or later, it will get you.
From 18 to 24 June 2014, Sadhguru will offer Darshan at the Isha Yoga Center, Coimbatore,Tamil Nadu, India, every evening from 5:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m.
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In this series, Sadhguru discusses various aspects through which you can take your yogic
practice to a whole new level.
Questioner: Namaskaram, Sadhguru. Why should
we do hata yoga on an empty stomach?
Sadhguru: You should not only be on an empty
stomach – your bowels should be empty too. If you
do Hata Yoga, You must ensure to leave at least
10 or better 12 hours between your last meal and
your practice. That way, you give enough time for
digestion, so that when you get up in the morning,the body will naturally purge. If you eat late at night
and get up early, the digestion will not be complete.
In traditional Indian medicine, whether it is
methods to restructure your system. In a way, you
are trying to recreate yourself by remolding your
system the way you want it to be. For this to be
done, there should be nothing but your body. The
only thing that is okay to have is water.
Practicing yoga means beginning a partnership withthe Creator. You cannot do it all yourself, but you
can create the necessary atmosphere for the Creator
to do the job. You want that which is the source
of creation to become your willing partner. The
rst time you were made, it was not your choice –
it was your parents and forefathers who decided
how your body should be shaped, and how it shouldfunction. It happened from genetic memory. This is
why in this culture, we refer to enlightened ones
as dwias, or twice-born. Once born out of your
mother’s womb – the way you were born was not
Part 5:
Why Empty Bowels are Essentialfor Hata Yoga Practice
I H Y Sadhguru on How to Enhance Your Sadhana
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you may change. It may change the experience for
the beholder, not for you. Your experience will only
change depending on the extent to which your body
is in line with the source of creation.
If you really look at creation, you will see
everything smacks of phenomenal intelligence.
If you pay enough attention to a simple leaf, you
will know what kind of intelligence has gone into
making this, and how many functions it has. In a
way, a leaf is a plant’s energy source. The dream of
today’s scientists is to create a leaf as a renewableenergy source that could power your house, and
even provide food and water for you. Scientists
have been working on this cutting-edge technology
for years. They are struggling so much to produce
one leaf, because it is incredible how many things a
leaf can do at the same time. Even in a single atom,phenomenal intelligence is involved – we are not
able to really gure it out.
The nature of the Creator is intelligence. You may
think you need love, money, wealth, or whatever
else – no, you need a little more sense – no
matter what your IQ is. How many times haveyou looked at people around you and thought, “I
only wish they had a little more sense.” If not just
your intellect but your intelligence doubled today,
you would grasp everything so much more easily.
What you would otherwise learn in fty years,
you could learn in ve years.
Being partner with the source of creation means
getting a huge infusion of intelligence, a kind of
intelligence that you would not believe possible. For
this to happen, obstacles need to be removed. This
body is the work of the source of creation. The food
that you have put into it is not yet part of the body,
and the stool that you have produced is not part of iteither. Therefore, your stomach and bowels should
be empty. But if you are doing yoga for four, ve
hours continuously, it is all right to lace the water
that you drink with a small spoon of honey. We
want the water to be tepid because if you drink cold
water, the body has to warm it up, which results in a
loss of energy. If the water you drink is within three
degrees above or below body temperature, the body
treats it as part of itself.
Tepid water and honey are the only two substances
that are allowed in your stomach, and nothing
else. There must be only body – no other obstacle.Otherwise, the Creator will not have anything to do
with you. The source of creation, the intelligence
which functions within you, treats anything else as
an external substance, which will not participate in
your asana. The Creator or the source of creation
must function and participate in your asana – only
then does an asana become a yogasana. Otherwise,it is just a posture.
Excerpted from talks by Sadhguru at the Isha Hata
School of Yoga. For information about hata yoga
programs, please visit www.ishahatayoga.com.
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Life on Fast-Forward
The following is an excerpt from Leela, the path of the playful, a unique exploration with Sadhguru
into the mystical realm of Krishna, which took place at the Isha Yoga Center in September 2005.
Leela Series
The path of the playful –
Part LV
Questioner: Sadhguru, if we assume Krishna was
God himself, why did his devotees face so many
difculties? And as for myself, until I laid my eyes
upon you, my life was what most people would envy.
Now still people envy my life, but in a different
way. In fact, it has been quite a rollercoaster ride for
me. If it is not about making life smooth, then what
is Grace all about?
Sadhguru: You know, Balarama asked a very similarquestion when they had to leave Mathura and
were going through all kinds of hardship, walking
through forest without proper food or rest: “Why
are all these things happening to us, and that too
with you around?” Krishna’s answer was, “Don’t
you complain when life is happening to you in great
measure. It is because you look at certain situations
as good and others as bad, or certain situations as
desirable and others as undesirable, that you ask
yourself why these things are happening to you,
h h j i lif lif Th
Even if a thunderbolt hit Spanda Hall right now
and all of us got struck and burnt up, I don’t think
it is a tragedy – it is just a happening. “Then what
about the Isha Foundation, what about my family
and my children?” For all of them, life will also
happen in great measure because we suddenly
evaporated. I want you to look at this beyond the
identication of good and bad. Life is happening in
great intensity – that is all.
If you want to turn spiritual, naturally you are
seeking a larger slice of life. In fact, anything that
you are going for in life is an effort to have a larger
slice of life. If you were only eating a thin wafer of
life, maybe it would be all sweetness, but it would
still only be a thin wafer. If you took a cake andlived on the icing alone, after some time, sweetness
would become poison. You said, “My life was
what many people would envy,” but you know
how empty it was. People who do not have a car
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I am talking about life in the sense of being,
existence. Right now, you consider many things as
life that actually have nothing to do with life in a
deeper sense. This has nothing to do with reality –
it is a mental condition. All suffering comes fromthat insanity.
When you walk the spiritual path, your inner
situation is on fast-forward. There are various reasons
to this. One fundamental reason is your prarabdha –
the allotted karma for this lifetime. Creation is very
compassionate. If it gave you the whole lot of yourkarma, which is called sanchita, in this lifetime, you
would die. Many of you are not even able to shake
off memories of this lifetime. Suppose I reminded
you of a hundred lifetimes in great intensity, most
of you would fall dead right here, unable to bear the
burden of that memory. Therefore, nature is allottingan amount of prarabdha that you can handle. If you
go by nature’s allotment, and we assume that you
will not create any new karma – which is not true –
to dissolve let us say a hundred lifetimes of karma,
you may take a minimum of a hundred lifetimes.
But in the process of these one hundred lifetimes,
you may gather enough karma for another thousandlifetimes.
When you are on the spiritual path, you are in a
hurry to get to your ultimate destination. You do
not want it to take a hundred or even a thousand
lifetimes – you want to hurry it up. If initiations are
done in a certain way, they open up dimensions that
would otherwise not open up. Maybe you would
have lived a more comfortable and peaceful life if
you were not spiritual, but a more lifeless life too.
Wi h hi f d l h i
their choice, their nature, or whatever nonsense,
they are trying to pass their lives comatose. Is that
your intention?
Entering the spiritual process means being willing toexperience life in great measure. Once you come and
sit with me, this is my blessing too – let everything
that is life happen to you. “What if death happens?”
That is wonderful too. If instead of taking 75 years
to get there, you can get there in 35 years, is it not
wonderful? This is not just a question of logic – this
is the reality of life. This is exactly the statementKrishna is making in the Gita: If you can provide
them the right kind of situation, let them get there
soon. There is a beautiful Tamil poem about the
wedding of a bala yogi [child yogi] and a girl who was
also a great devotee. They organized a big wedding
for 3000 guests. They got married, and then, thebala yogi, who was also a great poet, started reciting
beautiful devotional poetry. Everyone’s attention
was on him, and that was exactly what he wanted.
He used this moment of total attention to dissolve
all of them – they all left their bodies right there,
in the wedding hall. Many hundred years later, this
poet laments beautifully in a poem: “If only theyhad invited me to that wedding, I would not have to
struggle like this. I would also have made it. I came
a few hundred years late. Oh, will there be another
wedding like that for me?”
He did not consider 3002 people dying in a wedding
hall as a tragedy. He saw it as a great fortune, that
because of the bala yogi’s presence, all of them
attained at the same time. A spiritual person does
not look at events as good and bad – you are only
d b h i l lif i h i
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wrong with your life, which is not so.
Positive terminology can always be misinterpreted
in a million different ways because your mind dwells
upon it. I consciously use negative terminology
because you will not misinterpret it. If you want to
be spiritual, fundamentally, it means you want to
end yourself, the way you are right now. A positive
way of putting it is, you are seeking liberation. You
are seeking your ultimate nature; you are seeking
God; you want to become unbounded. When you
want to be boundless, you want to cease to exist theway you are right now. Once you express this wish
and the necessary energy is invested in you, things
will happen to end you the way you are right now.
This does not mean negative things will happen to
you. It is just that life will move on fast-forward, at
a tremendous pace.
Then what is Grace? In this existence, energy
functions in various manifestations. It functions
as sunlight, as breeze, as gravity – similarly, it
also functions as Grace. Gravity is trying to pull
you down; the breeze is trying to blow you away;
the sun is trying to burn you up – Grace is trying
to pluck you off the planet. This is using negative
terminology. If you want to express the same in
positive terminology, the earth is trying to hug you;
the breeze is trying to cool you; the sun is trying to
warm you – Grace is trying to make you grow. Let’sgo by the negative terminology, because you will
not get attached to it. Grace is trying to pluck you
out of the limitations in which you are stuck right
now. The limitations include the planet, the people,
the body, the mind, the emotions – everything. If
you have invited Grace and it is doing its work,
if it is pulling you up but you drop your anchor,
you create unnecessary struggle. If because of the
spiritual process life is happening, it is ne with me.
If struggle is happening, it is simply because you
have invited Grace to pull you up, but you drop your
anchor – that way, naturally, you will struggle.
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D & B – p 1
Sadhguru in Conversation with Lyricist and Writer Prasoon Joshi
Prasoon Joshi: It is quite strange that the rst
poem I ever wrote in my life – when I didn’t even
understand what I was writing – was about death.
Then later, in Kashi, Sadhguru enlightened me
with a lot of aspects that I had never thought about.
After that, we lost someone in the family, and more
questions about death started coming up.
Why is death always portrayed as dark and sinister?
Why is so much fear attached to it? You called it
So it is darkness only for the living, but death itself
has always been portrayed as a grand event in this
culture. It is only now that Indians are imitating the
West and walking with heads down when someone
dies.
Above all, there are wonderful stories. The legend
goes that Shiva has made the Maha Shmashan his
earthly abode and is waiting there. Every time
somebody dies, he dances in celebration. What kind
In another edition of the “In Conversation with the Mystic” series, Sadhguru met with lyricist,
writer, and advertisement guru Prasoon Joshi for a session under the theme “Death & Beyond”
on 28 March 2014 in Mumbai. Among other awards, Prasoon Joshi has won three Filmfare Best
Lyricist Awards (the last one in 2014 for Bhaag Milkha Bhaag) and two National Film Awards (for
his work in Taare Zameen Par and Chittagong). Here is the rst excerpt of their conversation.
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atmosphere that is all over. When the bubble burst,
a drop of soap water fell on the oor, but where the
content of the bubble went, you could never see,
because it is part of everything.
This is the nature of life. The whole cosmos is a
living mass of life. When the bubble burst and this
air or this life that was trapped in the bubble got
released, what is happening on the other side is way
bigger than what can happen within the trap of
physicality. Shiva is laughing, singing, and dancing
because one life got released from the mortal coil.
Prasoon Joshi: Once, there was a death in the
family and I had gone there. There was a kid
playing with a pinky-guard, and very naturally, he
also went over the dead body, as if it was a thing
lying there. People pulled him away, but the child
did not register why. Is it conditioning that weperceive the fact that somebody is gone as such a
big event or a calamity?
Sadhguru: Seeing death as a tragedy is physically,
mentally, emotionally, and socially a reality –
existentially, it is not. A child is an offspring of life –
he is not yet a slave of social conditioning. He wouldeven play with the dead; it would not matter. But
because adults feel this is inappropriate, they will
try to condition the child. When somebody very
dear to them dies, most people actually feel as if
this is the end of the world. But after some time,
they will come around. Children do not have this
time-lag – they come around quickly, because they
are less inuenced by what is happening in society.
How society handles death has a purely mental and
emotional basis, which means, it is our making –
ld m k it hi h nt M b
This is how every yogi starts his life. From the age of
eight to seventeen, I spent an enormous amount of
time in the cremation ground – it simply intrigued
me. I would just sit there. People would come and set
re to the body. You know, rewood is expensive,so some people want to save on the wood. I do not
know if any of you witnessed this – when the body
gets cremated, the rst thing that burns up is the
neck, and unless they made the wood arrangement
very large, invariably, the halfway burnt skull rolls
off. This happens after three and a half to four hours.
By that time, no relative is there – they are all gone
within one or two hours. So I would pick up the
skulls and put them back on the pyre.
Everyone talks about so many things – I want to see
it myself. I spent days and nights in the cremation
ground, not even knowing why. Today, we send
those who are seriously on the path to the cremation
ground to spend a certain amount of time there,
because mortality has to sink into you. You must
understand the essential nature of your life. Only
when you realize you are mortal, the longing to
know that which is beyond will arise.
If you think of God, you will not become spiritual –
you could actually become very stupid. You will
think that you can do idiotic things in your life, and
with a prayer, everything will be xed. You do not
do your job properly, but you think you will produce
good results. You do not study for your exam, and
you think you will be rst in class because of yourprayer. The moment you address the mortal nature
of who you are, the longing to know what this is all
about, and what is beyond this thing that people are
here today, gone tomorrow, will become a natural
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but you still do not believe it, or you have not paid
enough attention.
Prasoon Joshi: Sadhguru, the way we treat our
bodies after death – why do we have so many rituals
around that?
Sadhguru: To understand why there are certain
processes as to how we treat the body after a life has
exited the body, we need to look at the life process
as such. Life does not engage with the body just
like that – it happens as a process. When a woman
conceives, two little cells come together; then it
literally becomes a meatball. For this meatball
to become alive, somewhere between 40 to 48
days after conception, life enters. You know, no
two children are the same – even with the same
parentage, same genetics, right from the day they
are born, they are very different. This is because theinformation package that has entered that particular
piece of life is always unique.
Now the life process is happening, and one day death
happens. Why does death happen? Each individual
has a huge package of information, which we call
karmic body or sanchita, in traditional terms. Howdo we generate this information? Every moment of
our life, our ve senses – seeing, hearing, smelling,
tasting, touching – are gathering input. Every sight,
every smell, every sound, every touch – everything
is recorded. Only if it is acute – either very pleasant
or very unpleasant – you will notice it. You will not
notice the most minute things in normal course of
observation, but it is all recorded.
We have always known this and we can
experimentally prove it today. Suppose you were
fast asleep, and I would come and speak in a language
that you do not understand. You were completely
unconscious of this, but even 25 years later, we can
hypnotize you and make you speak all the sentences
that I spoke, without your knowing the language, just repeating those sounds. This memory is deeply
entrenched in your system.
The volume of information that you gather in
wakefulness and in sleep is phenomenal. It is because
of this volume of information that so many aspects
of our life happen automatically. If that informationwas not there, you would not know how to walk;
you would not know how to stand; you would not
know how to sit. This information or the prarabdha
is your allotted karma for this lifetime. This part of
your information is playing out – it is not in your
hands to control it.
This prarabdha runs out at a certain time, depending
upon how you live. Your body may have been still
strong and good, but once the information becomes
less, the life energy will become feeble. Once the
life energy becomes feeble below a certain point,
it will exit the body. This is considered a normal
death. This is a good way to die, when you ran outof the allotted information and you exited. Most
people chose to die by breaking the body in some
way and making it inhospitable for life – either
with a car crash, a heart attack, lung cancer, or
whatever else – so life exits. If life exits because it
has run out of information or prarabdha, then thislife will be very feeble, and there will be nothing
much to do about it.
To be continued.
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