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"Federal government" BUSTED for forcing American nuclear industry to become a ticking

time bomb

I can guage how accurate a report is by how much it gets shilled in the blogs, while being defended by intelligent

people. This report is getting it a LOT worse than the Fukushima report, which got nailed bad. This one REALLY

hit a nerve. This is possibly the biggest scandal in American history, and it may well destroy your future if

steps are not taken by the people to force the FED to overturn the mandated lunacy which now stands as a

menace to us all.

You have been told the nuclear waste must go somewhere. You have been told it needed to be stored inside a

mountain in the desert, where it will sit as a threat and menace to the world for millions of years. You have been

told there is nothing we can do about it. But what if you have been told a lie? What if that "spent fuel" was not

spent at all? What if a technology existed which allowed the same fuel to be used over and over, twenty times in

fact, and expended so fully that fuel rods would be safe enough to handle directly straight out of the reactor? Think

any "spent fuel pools" would be full?And even if this never happened,

What if foreign nations, (France was one) offered us hundreds of billions of dollars for our "spent fuel" only to

have the U.S. Government refuse the offer for no reason at all? Would that not solve the problem of getting rid of

it? And the final question, WHY would the Fed want so much nuclear material sitting around the country, only to

become a menace? Could it be that we do not have a government, and instead have a band of usurpers in power
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who have intentionally set us up for a fall? After reading this report, I believe you will be inclined to think so.

This report consists of hard scientific fact, and even harder answers.

In my journey of discovery in my investigation into the Fukushima disaster, I interviewed an 85 year old nuclear

engineer who worked in the nuclear industry during America's glory days, and earned GE over 100 patents. He

was one of the engineers who designed Fukushima, so naturally when conducting a real investigation into such a

disaster a responsible journalist would want that type of reference. I was surprised when my prior study of the

reactor systems there was so thorough that he had no information about Fukushima I did not already dig up, and hewas very surprised when I told him details about the inner workings of the reactor he never expected anyone in the

media to know.

When I started to think I was going to walk away with nothing, he dropped a bombshell on a totally different

subject. He opened his new direction of the discussion with the phrase "My team succeeded in closing the

nuclear loop, and Carter banned our miracle with an executive order

Here is what followed that introductory line, and the reason why we need to oust the FED

and start over.

The following is what he said in the interview

I started in the American nuclear program all the way back at the time of the Manhattan project, and have been

involved in reactor design and nuclear engineering my whole life. There was one answer we all searched for, and it

was how to close the nuclear loop.

When a reactor such as a boiling water reactor uses fuel, the waste products, which are highly radioactive isotopesthat have a different fission characteristic than the fuel, build up in the fuel and poison the nuclear reaction. A

reactor such as a boiling water reactor can only use the fuel until it gets contaminated by these isotopes enough to

change the nature of the nuclear reactions taking place. The reaction environment inside a boiling water reactor is

only one such environment that will work to trigger a chain reaction, and if that spent fuel is put into a reactor

made from different materials, those materials can favor the burning of the poisonous isotopes, and use the

isotopes as fuel until the fuel is purified of them, and therefore had it's original radiological characteristics

restored. Once that is accomplished, the fuel can go back into the boiling water reactor, and used as new.

We perfected the second reactor design, which used liquid sodium as a coolant, and the reactor ran much hotter -

1100 farenheit as opposed to 550 in a boiling water reactor. The liquid sodium circulated inside the reactor in lieuof water, with the heat of the reaction being removed from the system by a heat exchanger which boiled the water

outside the reactor for use in producing electricity. The temperature difference and coolant characteristics

facilitated the burning of the isotopes, and you got to use both sides of the reaction - one side produced electricity

while poisoning the fuel, and the other side produced electricity while burning the poisons out. This process can be
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repeated 20 times, and when it is finished the fuel is DEAD and no longer hazardous because all of it's

radiological potential has been used up. It was a dream come true, and Carter banned it by executive order!

He specifically stated that the burn down was so complete that the spent fuel was safe to handle directly

with bare hands, and needed no special care or maintenance at all.

He then went on to lament about what a waste of money it was, because the fuel is expensive, and they were only

using it to about five percent of its total potential. He lamented the fact that his life's greatest accomplishment gotbanned for no good reason, and it was a tremendous waste of money to not use the technology his team developed.

Electricity would have been cheap. REAL CHEAP. So cheap that homes would not have been heated with oil or

natural gas, electricity would have been the only sensible choice. Furthermore, with a reduction in the price of

electricity by at least 10X, electric cars would have been a no brainer.

This would have been America's free energy future, with the only real cost being maintenance of

infrastructure.

His take on it was that we were now paying too much for electricity. I guess that's how an engineer thinks. He hadread my article on Fukushima and liked it, so one would guess his eyes were open to the global conspiracy. Even

still I think he missed the obvious in what he said.

Here is my take, and it has NOTHING to do with price, preservation of resources, or free energy.

Nuclear reactors are HUGE. They have an enormous amount of nuclear material in them. One boiling water

reactor core the size of the ones at Fukushima can easily hold enough fissionable material to make countless

atomic bombs.And with the technology that makes re-using that fuel illegal, it builds up at a rate of 25 tons per

gigawatt YEAR. This means that even small facilities like Fort Calhoun have approximately a million pounds ofhighly radioactive "poisoned" fuel sitting in their pools waiting for the right combination of problems to cause a

disaster.

When GE and others designed the nuclear facilities both here and abroad, they had calculated that they would

indeed succeed in closing the nuclear loop. So they designed the nuclear facilities with approximately a 20X safety

margin in the fuel pools, because they did not have a clear date on when the technology would be perfected. It was

my impression from this engineer that they got it sooner than expected. So fortunately the fuel pools were over

built. But they were never built to withstand the fuel burdens that would result from a political decision to

destroy the technology altogether.

So now, 40 years down the road, we have fuel pools around the country that are so full that they have

exceeded even the extremely generous safety margins they were originally designed to have, and even

modest pools often have over 400 tons of highly active isotope ridden "spent" fuel in them.

Having functional fuel pool cooling systems was never intended to be necessary. GE and others wanted one or two

cores worth of fuel sitting in a pool at any one time. This would make it so that even if all cooling failed, there

would be no boiling of the water in the pool, no pending disaster possible from equipment failure no matter how

severe. But the way it is now, if there is any sort of attack or disaster which prevents fuel pool maintenance at any

of the facilities around the country for a period exceeding three days, all hell will break loose and a nucleardisaster of unimaginable magnitude just like Fukushima will take place. And it never needed to be this way, in

fact, the situation is criminal.

Upon recognizing the lunacy of America's Federally mandated nuclear sabotage, countries like France and


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for years. To the tune of 25 tons of spent fuel per gigawatt year generated. That's a lot of "waste", and it's nasty

stuff. It's the equivalent of keeping a 5,000 gallon gas tank in your bedroom. Better hope all is well with it.

I honestly feel that banning this miracle technology; you should have heard the sparkle, the awe in the old man's

voice when he said they closed the "nuclear loop", and the sadness, despair and anger expressed at it's being

banned; I feel it was an ACT OF WAR AGAINST AMERICA. There were never any accidents associated with

this technology. NONE NADA ZIP. you can take that story and stuff it. If a problem occurred it was not related to

this, and how can you prove said problem was not a "wag the dog"?

This enemy wanted this fuel building up. 25 tons a gigawatt year. WOW. That means that lowly little Fort Calhoun

must have no less than 400 tons of "SPENT" fuel sitting in it's little pool by now. OUCH. Just what an enemywould want; you see -

Now, all it will take is a smart bomb, a societal breakdown, a natural disaster and POOF, fuel pool goes up in

smoke and AMERICA IS FINISHED. Multiply that by Browns Ferry, Prairie Island, and over 100 others all across

America. Tyranny's dream come true. Just what the enemy would want, and it NEVER NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

The problem was not scientific, IT WAS POLITICAL.

I feel that man opened up and passed me the baton because he knew I would "get it" and believe me pal, SHILL,

HATE AMERICA SELLOUT TO BE HUNG FROM A TREE, I will carry that baton, I will not stop with this, I

got a solid dose of light from America's great past; Oh what a nation we were. Only after the likes of you are

adequately flushed will we ever have hope for a future, I truly hope there is a chance;I am spreading the word, will do it quickly, and make good and sure that if anything does blow up the blame will

land squarely ON YOU.

The following text, which was posted on the Nuclear Engineering web site out at the University of Berkely

California, led to the rip from a shill which follows it. They posted the picture Reference with the quote

"Jim Stone - STILL STUNNING THE WORLD"

This starts where I stepped into the conversation after finding them in my site stats.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2011-06-21 08:15.

Hi, I found you in my site stats. Thanks for the support! Btw, 85 year old nuclear engineers with over 100 patents

filed for GE does not constitute "teenager" let alone the (several) others in their 50's who have sent me info that isgoing to blow you away in the next report.

Thanks guys, I really appreciate this post.

Jim Stone

* reply Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2011-06-21 20:05.

Thanks Jim, looking forward to the next report. Will we be seeing it soon?

* reply Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2011-06-21 08:30.

Jim, it's starting to click. Thinking this scenario could be the path of least resistance.

* reply Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 2011-06-22 05:19.

I am going to release a preliminary version of the report tomorrow before I go on the air, for people to look at for

reference.

I interviewed an 85 year old nuclear engineer who worked for GE and designed the reactors at Fukushima. He had

nothing new to contribute about the reactor design, ect (not that the public would understand) but after answering

my questions he went on to tell me something very interesting.

You guys probably might find this hard to believe, but I am going to tell you exactly what he told me.

He said that the team he was on at GE succeeded in closing the "nuclear loop". I did not know what that was, and

he went on to explain -

When fuel is consumed in a boiling water or other water cooled reactor it produces isotopes which poison the

chain reaction and produce unfavorable conditions. Once the isotopes build up to a certain level - he said about 5

percent depletion of fuel, their presence becomes dominant and it interferes with proper reactor operation. So the

fuel has to be pulled out.
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GE was working on a technology to do away with this problem, and here is exactly how he described it. He said

NOTHING about re-processing, NOTHING AT ALL. HE SAID IT JUST LIKE THIS:

You take the fuel out of the water cooled reactor and put it in a sodium cooled breeder reactor. Because the

materials used in the breeder reactor favor the burning of the isotopes, (one of which was liquid sodium for

cooling) and also because the reactor runs much hotter(1100 farenheit vs 550 in a BWR (I filled that in, I studied

them well enough) ONLY the isotopes are burned off in the breeder reactor, and once their interfering

characteristics are removed from the reaction, the fuel, at 5 percent depleted works perfect when put back into the

boiling water reactor, with NO REPROCESSING NEEDED AT ALL. He said that this process could draw the fuel

almost all the way down. He said it was good for 20 cycles. I don't know if 1 BWR cycle and 1 breeder cycleequals 2 cycles, it would make sense, but he was also adamant that you get a LOT of performance out of the

breeder reactor, which can produce substantial power by vaporizing water in a heat exchanger during the isotope

burn out. The impression he left indicated that the fuel was almost completely dead at the end of the process,

though I don't know how you could get any performance out of it once it was used past 50 percent. I would expect

reprocessing to be needed at that point, but that is not how he phrased it.

Carter banned this technology by executive order on his third day in office, and as a result, 25 tons per gigawatt

per year have been building up in fuel pools across the country. GE never intended to have the fuel pools filled,

they expected to have the technology fully perfected by the mid 70's and succeeded in this goal, only to have a

political decision shut it all down.

He lamented the buidup of so much fuel at American nuclear facilities, mostly from an economic standpoint. Ilamented the buildup because it is a FREAKING HAZARD. The fuel pools were NEVER designed to have so

much fuel in them, GE's original intention was to have maybe TWO reactor core's worth of fuel in a pool, not 40.

So the fuel pools are overloaded now, and if ANYTHING happens, a war, a collapse, ect, and the nuclear facilities

are not maintained, these fuel pools will go ballistic and wreck the country.

SO

My main focus will be to try to convince people to do something about it - to overturn that executive order and

allow the miracle GE created to be used to burn this fuel off, which absent selling so much fuel would require

America to run on ONLY nuclear power for at least 80 years. My fear is that the legislation was put in place to

weaponize America's nuclear program to be used against us in the future. It's a little hard to argue with because:

1. This technology would have extended the life of the fuel by 20X according to this engineer, which would mean

that after all these years AT MOST there would be two cores sitting in each fuel pool as opposed to sometimes 40,

2. France offered to pay us billions for our "spent" fuel which is in fact very valuable, while our government

instead opted to just let it build up and then pump the nuclear waste propaganda endlessly, to make people fear and

hate nuclear power. There was never a need for this; with reprocessing and the "closed loop" cycle, there should

not be ANY nuclear "waste" ANYWHERE. It's all a scam and hoax. According to this engineer, the reprocessing

he spoke of is NOT what the French are doing now. It was a better solution.

I will be back to see if this passes muster on this forum, if anyone has any comments, NOW IS THE TIME FOR

THEM, I will discuss this on THRUSDAY.

Thanks,

Jim Stone

The post got a real venomous shill response, which follows

* reply this is a fantasy

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 2011-06-22 05:49.

Like Dr. Chivers, R. Cromack and at least one other person who has posted here, I am a former U.S. Navy

'bubblehead' (submariner) who served aboard nuclear boats. I'm no longer in the service but my civilian profession

keeps me "in the loop" and I deal with Electric Boat on a weekly basis, as well as techreps from GE and other

defense contractors. I've heard this sort of rumor before, and it is b.s.

I've also heard scuttlebutt about some sort of "nuclear inhibitor" technology that was supposedly developed by

DoD and which is now being deliberately withheld by the Navy from TEPCO and he IAEA as part of some

vaguely defined U.S. power play or blackmail or the like. This is also bullshit. This sort of cockamamie nonsense

always seems to follow disaster, always has, ever since JFK was shot in Dallas I've been listening to some damn

fool or other spout off about the Mafia or the CIA or little green men. Hard times bring the nuts falling right out of


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the trees.

Problem is, these idiots used to always be relegated to their bar stools or their soup kitchens or their own family's

kitchen tables, and now the Internet allows them to spin their crap for all the world to see, and there are always a

few fools who'll listen to them and encourage them to keep spreading lies, fallacies and hysteria. Just look at this

bunch here: HAARP. That European conference. Gaia ascending whatever the hell that means. And now Jimmy

Carter! Give me a break.

If I were BRAWM I'd shut this forum down and tell everyone to go screw themselves. They've been nothing but

upfront with you people and all you can do is bitch and piss and moan, and question their motives and undermine

them. You people are ungrateful, pathetic asses.

For the record, NO fuel cycle exists without the production of undesireable by-products. Might as well.wish for a

difference engine, for all the good it'll do you. But, then, I suppose you think that big, bad private enterprise or the

military or the government covered up that invention, too, right? Maybe that was President Peanut's FOURTH

executive order - the first being outlawing the tooth fairy, and the second ordering an assassination of Kris

Kringle.

This is the typical shillage you expect. Lots of insults, little substance.

It is important to note that President Carter was a reactor operator on a nuclear submarine. The fact that

the only people shilling this "nuclear loop" are reactor operators from nuclear submarines makes their

efforts reek of a psy op. Perhaps Carter himself posted to this blog, for a payoff, I am being closely watchednow by powerful political figures, I have recieved notice that the Pentgon, Russia's military, India and

China, those four countries are taking my Fukushima report to heart at an official level. The Pentagon

probably is a threat, they have GOT to know Fukushima was a set up. I think Russia was suspicious and

India and China learned from me.

My response to sub guy follows


So now I know what the lying opposition is. This nuclear engineer was a friend of the family, positively identified,

and not some scammer. You are a bold faced liar, a psy op shill sent to shoot this story down.

Go lie elsewhere, I do not pump garbage and my facts are verified back to original sources, not second handscoops.

You might believe the lies you have been told via an SCI level clearance, but lies are lies and that is that.

This man did not lie.

If there are any REAL nuclear engineers willing to come forward and fill in REAL details rather than be a

scamming shill, I am still open to response.

Jim stone

* reply

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 2011-06-22 19:04.Jim, ignore the shill. It might be Cromack actually.

Keep posting please. Keep posting please. All discussions are allowed.

* reply


It is my worry that this technology did indeed get swept under the rug, and only his team knew about it. If so, it is

the job of those who work for the corrupted government to keep the truth buried.

He was very clear about it - the fuel was safe to handle directly after being burned down to virtually zero. This

does make sense, because before being put in a reactor to begin with, it is not all that dangerous. If you could burn

every last isotope out of it, it simply would not be that dangerous. He did not fill in these guesses of mine, but it

does make sense; logical progression supports his story.

And, as a shill, it would be your job to rip me for this "guess". Go ahead, I am now in a position now to ram it

down your throat anyway. It got back to me this morning that the Chinese DOD, Russian Defense forces, Indian

defense forces and the Pentagon picked up my story and are analyzing it as I write this. So the French, Saudis and


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