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B a r r y B o y c e : Ds mindulnss g bnd
simpl ultivting u ttntivnss?
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Toward a Mindul SocietyAs creator o Mindulness-Based Stress Reduction, Jon Kabat-Zinnhas brought the
benefts o meditation practice to hundreds o thousands o people and inspired a movement
that is changing our society in many ways. In this important interview with the Suns Barry
Boyce, he discusses the philosophy, goals, and promise o the mindulness movement.
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