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Ian Crotty 27Nov 2010 Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degC What we can observe. Average Chamber temperatures just before and after 18 Oct 2010. Yoke temperature. Individual examples of chamber temps. Distribution in Z Longer term

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Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degC. What we can observe. Average Chamber temperatures just before and after 18 Oct 2010. Yoke temperature. Individual examples of chamber temps. Distribution in Z Longer term Conclusions. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degC

Ian Crotty 27Nov 2010

Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degCObservation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degC

What we can observe.Average Chamber temperatures just before

and after 18 Oct 2010.Yoke temperature.

Individual examples of chamber temps.Distribution in Z

Longer term

Conclusions.

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Ambient temp change did change on the 18 Oct.

Ambient temp change did change on the 18 Oct.

SPC = Set Point Change 19 -17 degC

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Average Chamber temps before SP change

Average Chamber temps before SP change

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Average temps after SP ChangeAverage temps after SP Change

Set Point 19 -1718 Oct 2010

0.31degC

0.28degC

0.06degC

0.36degC

0.23degC

0.04degC

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Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degCObservation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degC

The SPC caused the temperatures to slightly decrease, which is good.

In addition the changes were more pronounced with distance from IP.

The very small differences in the RE1s can be explained by the enclosed nature of their

installation behind the CSCs.The RE2 and 3s are greater due to the

greater exposure in that the CSCs are on the opposite wall (yoke).

The difference between the RE2 and 3 may be due to the distance from the IP and

associated heat sources.It should be pointed out that absolute values

differences are small.

The following slides give some individual cases

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Logged Yoke temps are not representative of the real conditions.

Logged Yoke temps are not representative of the real conditions.

1 degC variation in less than a day

Unfortunately these logs of temperature do not allow us to improve our understanding of the actions taken and the impact on the RE system

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Temperature change of RE1/207.This chamber is on the YE+1

Temperature change of RE1/207.This chamber is on the YE+1

18 Oct 2010 SPC

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Temperature change of RE3/307.This chamber is on the YE+3

Temperature change of RE3/307.This chamber is on the YE+3

18 Oct 2010 SPC

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Temperature change of RE-3/307.This chamber is on the YE-3

Temperature change of RE-3/307.This chamber is on the YE-3

18 Oct 2010 SPC

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RPC Temp Distributions in June 2010 RPC Temp Distributions in June 2010

+Z -ZRB0

20.3

3C

19.9

0C

19.7

9C

20.2

5C

20.2

5C

18.6

7C

19.4

1C

20.8

3C

21.3

3C

20.3

2C

21.9

2C

0.5C

0.8C

0.6C

0.7C

0.8C

0.75

C

Gains since April 2010

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RPC Temp Distributions on 30 Nov 2010 RPC Temp Distributions on 30 Nov 2010

+Z -ZRB0

20.5

5C

20.1

2C

20.0

5C

20.3

4C S

D=0

.28

20.5

7C

19.0

0C

19.7

1C S

D=1

.10

20.8

0C S

D=0

.4

21.5

8C S

D=0

.36

20.8

1C S

D=0

.61

22.0

8C S

D=0

.35

0.03

C

0.09

C

0.16

C

0.25

C

0.49

C

0.3C

Small increases since June 2010

Mean

StDev

Increases are mitigated by the work undertaken during the year

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Increasing of UXC temp since AugIncreasing of UXC temp since Aug

Part of the reason for the increase on the long term

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Temperature plot of UXC for 2010

The structure is similar to the following slide showing chamber temps but without the increase since June

June to SPC

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RE average temperatures during 2010

Steady temp increases since June until SPC

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RB average temperatures during 2010

Temperatures are far more stable

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Observation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degCObservation of the RPCs after UXC Set point change from 19 to 17degCTemperatures RE and RB in Z 30 Nov 2010 All temperatures are in degrees Centigrade

RE+3 RE+2 RE+1 RB+2 RB+1 RB0 RB-1 RB-2 RE-1 RE-2 RE-3

Outer *3 WBM WBM WBM WBM WBM WBM1 20.8 20.4 19.0 20.2 21.4 22.17 20.7 20.6 18.9 20.4 21.6 21.5

13 21.1 20.0 19.5 20.4 22.3 22.319 19.9 20.5 20.7 20.4 21.7 22.025 20.4 20.0 19.0 20.2 21.1 21.631 20.6 20.2 19.2 20.4 21.2 21.7

20.6 20.3 19.4 20.3 21.6 21.9

Inner *21 20.8 20.5 21.0 21.5 21.7 22.17 21.1 20.6 20.3 21.9 21.7 22.8

13 21.1 20.6 21.3 21.6 21.0 22.319 21.3 20.2 21.7 21.4 21.6 22.025 20.6 19.8 20.8 20.8 21.4 22.031 20.3 20.5 21.8 20.5 21.9 22.0

20.9 20.4 21.2 21.3 21.6 22.2

Av *2 & *3 20.73 20.33 20.27 20.81 21.55 22.03Av from PVSS 20.80 20.34 19.71 19.00 20.57 20.55 20.12 20.05 20.81 21.58 22.08

Mean from Above WBM 20.95Mean from PVSS for RE 20.4

Mean from Above WBM Ian crottyMean from PVSS for RB 20.06 30-Nov-10

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Web Based Monitoring sourceWeb Based Monitoring source

RPC Temperature  Now   2010.11.30 19:20:58 UTC   Heartbeat   2010.11.30 19:20:33 UTC 

The green sections represent those chambers which have sensors. Clearly the RB are better instrumented than the RE.

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ConclusionsConclusions

The Set Point Change (SPC) in the UXC reduced by 2 degrees.

The ambient temperature at the X3 level in UXC reduced by 0.6-0.8degC. The chamber temperature reduction reached 0.3-0.4 degrees at best in the RE3 regions.There is a persistent asymmetry in the temperatures of the RE3s.Increases since June have been greater in the RE1s.From June to November there has been a steady increase in RE temps that is not evident in RB.As well as remnant heat emanating from the central detector region of CMS as has been suggested perhaps we see well cooled chambers in the barrel region and an influence of the ambient air temperature on the RE2 and RE3s. This implies that any attempt to circulate cool enough ambient air between the yokes will help.We need a solution to keep the present RE stations as cool as the barrel and also the future RE4 that we have started building.