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How Can Live Performance Flourish? Provocations, conclusions, thoughts and ideas taken from the Open Space discussion at the Made in Somerset Festival 2011, Friday 7 October @ The Brewhouse Theatre & Arts CentreFacilitated by Seth HonnorTRANSCRIPT
How Can Live Performance Flourish? Provocations, conclusions, thoughts and ideas taken from the Open Space discussion at the Made in Somerset Festival 2011, Friday 7 October @ The Brewhouse Theatre & Arts CentreFacilitated by Seth Honnor
A Draft Working Document
Alex Hollweg Take Art
Andy Field Forest Fringe
Anna Coombs Tangle Theatre Company
Benn Cody The Brewhouse
Charlie Dearden Bridgwater Arts Centre
Charlotte Melia Performer
Chris Ryde Equity
David Duthie SPACE, Tacchi-Morris
Deryck Newland Salisbury Arts Centre
Dominic Somers Creative Ecology
Emily Williams Wide Awake Devon
Emma Bettridge Independent Producer
Gavin Stride Farnham Maltings
Ged Stephenson Weston College
Gina Westbrook Take Art
Jac Husebo Director & Practitioner
Jim Brewster Audiences SW
Jo Johnson Practitioner
John Struthers ICIA, Bath University
Kate Vanovitch The David Hall
Kim Burnell Take Art
Made in Somerset: Open Space Participant List
Kirsty Cotton Court Fields School,Wellington
Lily-May Springer Graduate Practitioner
Liz Leyshon Strode Theatre
Louise Barrett Pretty Good Girl Dance Theatre
Mark HelyarTake Art
Martin PopleCultural Forum
Melanie Wood Practitioner
Monique Luckman Wide Awake Devon
Nell Farrally Frome Artist, (Merlin)
Nick Smith Superact
Nick White Travelling Light, Theatre
Paula Hammond Creative Ecology
Rachael Duthie Independent Artist
Rachelle Green Core Dance
Ralph Lister Take Art
Ramona Nash RFO Team
Ray Tew The Regal Theatre
Sandy Maberley Theatre Melange
Sarah Peterkin Take Art
Seth Honnor Albow
Tanuja Amarasuriya Theatre Bristol
Tim Hill RFO Team
Made in Somerset: Open Space Participant List
How can art flourish?By Andy Field
[A provocation written for Take Art’s Open Space on the future for the arts in Somerset, responding to the question ‘how can arts flourish?’]
Hello. I’ve been asked to offer you
a provocation. So here is a provocation. Apparently, more money
is given each year to Donkey charities than
to domestic violence charities. I’ve been
wondering and thought that maybe part of the
reason for that is this: Donkeys don’t speak
back. Donkey’s are uncomplicated. They just
get more or less healthy.
A donkey doesn’t question the underlying
causes of the situation it finds itself
in. A donkey doesn’t suggest that there
might be more to a problem than money.
A donkey doesn’t stand there as an uncomfortable reminder of the inequalities and injustices and violence buried right at the heart of
the society that we do our best to live in.
A donkey is a problem happening over there.
Not a problem happening here. A donkey
is not something we might have to fix in
ourselves.
Whilst we’re on the subject of animals, a few
years ago Tracey Emin’s Fourth Plinth proposal
was a family of meerkats standing on one end
of the plinth. She said that they were a symbol
of hope, because every time something sad
or depressing or difficult was on television, it
was always followed by a documentary about
meerkats. She did not win the commission.
Who here has heard of the Health Lottery?
The health lottery is a new type of lottery,
all the proceeds of which go to local health
organisations . It’s an insidious little idea. As superficial and insincere
as the Daily Mirror’s Pride of Britain Awards. It
feeds a basic desire to feel like we’re helping.
Like we’re doing good things. We are being
uncomplicatedly good. You buy your lottery
ticket and you know that your pound is going
directly to local people who are sick.
Now here’s the provocative bit. If this is a success we are fucked. Because
the government has found a way to use facile
big society populism to harness the resentment
and confusion that people feel towards arts
funding to channel money away from people
and organisations that talk back.
We talk back. The arts talk back. We are difficult and complicated. We don’t
always make things seem uncomplicatedly
better. We can’t always have positive
deliverable outcomes. We don’t always appear
to add value. We sometimes tell people not
only about the problems over there. But also
the problems back here. We explore the things
we need to fix in ourselves. That is what art
is to me. It’s a place or an occasion where
we come together to look at the world with a
different kind of attentiveness. To imagine and
enact a better world for ourselves.
And if its straight shoot out between that and a
donkey or a dialysis machine, we are going to
lose every time.
So what can we do? Let’s stop making the wrong arguments. Let’s stop talking about the arts as value-
adders. If we really thought that was the arts’
major contribution to society we’d all be
building shopping centres not theatres.
Let’s stop conceding the terms of the
argument. Let’s stop assuming that the most
sensible thing we can do is soldier on valiantly,
stoically doing the best we can under the
circumstances.
This is a moment of profound cultural and political transformation. 2011 will resonate in the same way as 1917 or
1968. We are reaching the end of something.
We are in the midst of recession. Climate
change is at a tipping point. There are protests
on our own streets. Riots. Revolutions across
the middle east. The media’s illicit affair with
successive governments is falling apart.
Art. Theatre. Has an opportunity. Has a
responsibility. It sounds unhelpful and it’s
certainly not going to get you any money from
DCMS, but at a time of such crisis, art’s real
value is in making things worse. To speak
back government and to speak back to society.
To help unpick the unraveling threads. To
stand alongside the dispossessed and the
demonised. The utopian dreamers and the
feral underclass. To imagine new ways that we
might live together. Better ways.
That is how we flourish. That is
how we add value. Otherwise the Donkeys
have it every time.
The Notes and Findings from each of the 14 Discussions Groups
The Notes and Findings from each of the 14 Discussions Groups
Creating platforms from which to progress? Convenor: Melanie WoodParticipants: Melanie Wood, Lily-May Springer, Mark Helyar
Key Notes
Avoid sense of failures • Say ‘Yes’ • The industry discourages new practitioners, maybe not through fault of their own • Hire or borrow lighting, rehearsal spaces • Artists need taking under wing, not over shoulder • New artists should be shown around the systems and taught how to do professional set ups. School halls could be used for dress rehearsals • Maximise online platforms, websites, social networking • Use local noticeboards • etc...
Producing theatre by young performers?
Convenor: David Duthie Participants: David Duthie, Rachael Duthie, Nick Smith, Kim Burnell, Jac Husebo
Key Notes
Allowing performers to be inspired by seeing other students • work Sharing work is successful but doesn’t happen (Take Art) •Is competition healthy or counter-productive? • Schools need external help providing good quality •Venues, with a range of technical facilities• In order for young people to be inspired and engaged, •they need to be involved / participate
Cont...
Telling people who might want to know?
Convenor: Kate VanovitchParticipants: Kate Vanovitch, Chris Ryde, Nick White, Alex Hollweg, Sarah Peterkin, Emma Williams, Ramona Nash, Ged Stephenson
Key Notes
Challenge with technology, how to communicate the message, •what is the voice and why should they listen?Word of mouth is limited? • The death of the brochure/poster•A portion of the audience only do viral • Too many assumptions are made about potential audiences•Use different channels to communicate with different people• Communication should be devised from the concept of the Art.•Marketing should be part of the art, don’t market separately• How do we know what marketing has worked?•Venue/building can be a barrier• How do we know whether the art has failed or the marketing has •failed?How do you entice new audience?• ‘The Knowledge’ - central data safe in walks about booking info •Cross-over audiences• How to get children of ‘non arty’ parents?•Competition with fellow organisations causes problems• Encourage more people away from the X Factor• Engage with current cultural influences• Learn from sport - encourage many to identify the sparks who •will engageGuerilla marketing, not offering but telling via performace• Difference between genres: in music there is an acceptable blur •between amateur and professional
Do less well?
Convenor: Gavin Stride Participants: Gavin Stride, Emily Williams, Paula Hammond, Nick White, Kirsty Cotton, Jim Brewster, Emma Bettridge, Sarah Peterkin, Gina Westbrook
Key Notes
Innovative?•Challenging?• Experimental•Collaborative• What the Arts Council are Funding•Developmental V Marketable• Authentic•Truthful• Quality•Competition for audiences•Artists creating work that audiences want to see• Festival model of short bursts of activity•Subscription tickets• Funding imbalances... city V rural, large V Small•
Cont...
Good, bad and crazy ideas?
Convenor: Dominic SomersParticipants: Dominic Somers, Tim Hill, Ged Stephenson, Monique Luckman, Martin Pople
Key Notes
Time for play• How to make time for ideas•Arts agendas constrict ideas• Arts playing at business•How do we find creative spaces• We make so much from so little•Learn from bad ideas, leave space for crazy ideas• Arts suffocated by the need to be sellable •Vulnerable• Who is it to say what is good, bad or crazy?•Who is your work for?• Worshipping false Gods of success and money?•Oh my God, there isn’t a God... we can do the work we want• Regular funding and creativity•Freedom to create• What’s worth saying?•
Producing theatre for young audiences?
Convenor: Nick WhiteParticipants: Nick White, Jo Johnson, Nell Farrally, David Duthie, Kirsty Cotton, Lily-May Springer, Chris Ryde
Key Notes
Inspiringverysmallones,under5s•Young people participating and flourishing in theatre •Workthat‘get’sthem’• Theatre as an alternative to film •Whatdoesfilm/theatreoffer•Ease of Access •Motivatingyoungpeopletobeanaudience• Be creative not passive •Haveopinions•Facility to see other things •GotoEdinburgh•Make work outdoors, which works for young audiences •Createadirectconnectionwithyoungpeople•Get young people involved in making work with environmental charities •Buildonourrelationshipswithschools•Gap of artistic experience within the school environment •Jointprogrammingacrosssmallvenues•Make participatory, magical work for the age group •providenontraditionalaudienceexperiences• Visual work without shouting •somethingfortheparents/guardians
Howcanliveperformanceflourishwithdecreasing audiences and rising costs?
Convenor: Benn CodyParticipants: Benn Cody, Rachael Duthie, Jim Brewster, Kim Burnell
Key Notes
Issues: Recession... covering costs when audiences can afford ticket prices. Artist integrity in jepordy •Lackofcouncilsupport/apathy•VAT •LackofnetworkingandcommunicationbetweenSomersetartvenuesandmakers•Marketing stagnent, same across all audience targets •Partnershipthinking,touringinpartnershipwithothers•Sharing audiences •Findnewadvertisingspace• venue or product first •Freeeventstoencourageaudiences•Vetting companies on board •successfuloffers
Why is Dance special?
Convenor: Paula HammondParticipants: Paula Hammond, Monique Luckman, Charlie Dearden, John Struthers, Emily Williams, Rachelle Green
Key Notes
Theatres are called theatres - language issues• Dance and sport•Dance academies / dance schools• Where do the young people go to?•They go see Rambert at TRB bit not contemporary dance at • the ICIADo dance practitioners ‘move on’ quicker than theatre •practitoners? ie 5 year cycleStreet dance is huge and attracts boys• In the other room there is plenty of talk about youth •theatre not youth dance but youth dance is probably much biggerWhen Niki McCretton was in Somerset there seemed more • practitioners - was this the influence of Chris Fogg? - bigger budgets + a dance team at Take ArtLou Barrett still making a living, who else?•Mark Bruce Company - support from Merlin, Tobacco Factory, • no-one else in Somerset to support that scale of production??
What responsibility do venues have/should take,formakingliveperformanceflourish?
Convenor: Deryck NewlandParticipants: Deryck Newland, Paula Hammond, Jim Brewster, Emily Williams, Chris Ryde, Charile Dearden, Gavin Stride
Key Notes
None whatsoever towards artists, their responsibility is to • audiencesDoes responsibility imply ‘hierarchy’?•Venues responsibility is to spot the good ideas & match it to an • audienceVenues as advocate for artists - a connection thing•Battersea Arts Centre is dangerous - only 3% is box office • income - no audiencesVenues do have resources and expertise so can/should •support local artistsIts not ‘responsibility’... its ‘interest’• Venue as a community resource•Venues role is to offer an audience• Venue like a jeweller - making the stone in the best setting•Choices re What and When• Tension between art & sales•Venue needs to really know its audience• How about digitising content•Venues can present elsewhere than the venue• Venues should take risks and push audiences towards •new workVenues need to take audiences on a journey - frame the work - • bare faced trickeryDo we describe Jane Eyre as ‘all white’?•
Finding physical space to make workConvenor: Ralph ListerParticipants: Ralph Lister, Melanie Wood, Deryck Newland, Dominic Somers, Tim Hill, Ramona Nash, Emily Williams
Finding physical space to make workConvenor: Ralph ListerParticipants: Ralph Lister, Melanie Wood, Deryck Newland, Dominic Somers, Tim Hill, Ramona Nash, Emily Williams
Key NotesFarmbuildings•Village Halls •Gardeninghelpinexchangeforkeytohalls/spaces•Overnight rehearsals •Don’taskyoudon’tget•Empty premises eg Boden Mill, Chard •Nodedicatedrehearsalspaces•Open rehearsals •Sharings,caring•No free space for artists without funding (scarce) •Developrelationships•Websites (Theatre Somerset) •Flexiblespaces•Right space, right time, right location •Challengetogetnon-arts space holers to commit
Connecting Somerset's rural & urban communities?Convenor: Nick WhiteParticipants: Nick White, Rachael Duthie, David Duthie
Key NotesLong way from Wiveliscombe to Frome, from Minehead to • ChardCarnivals are separate to other towns & to the arts sector•
Move existing audiences around, give them different • experiences, share the rural/urban focus eg Step ChangeRural workshop connected to a Brewhouse show and vice •versa eg Brewhouse and Take Art rural touringCan rural & town audiences cross-over? Can organisations • work in partnership to sharing/inspiring each others audiencesFestival feel - sponsored by Somerset ale/cider companies•On a bus, audience start at a theatre/pub go to next village hall/• town to another theatre/pub, things happen on the wayJoint beer/cider/theatre/dance festival •
Infrastructure - help or hinderance?
Convenor: Ramona NashParticipants: Ramona Nash, Kim Burnell, Charlie Dearden, Nell Farrally, Chris Ryde, Deryck Newland, Ray Tew
Key Notes
Without any support/infrastructure hard to work in an ongoing way• Structure can affect the work, ie could be negative for delivery•Where money is tight should agencies be first to go• Maybe more helpful if artist-led (but is that sustainable?)•Do infrastructure organisations take money out or bring money in, or • both? Eg building audiences, providing platforms for work to generate income for artists Eg village halls touring, would this happen without the middle •man/agency?Could venues do a lot of the work that agencies do now?• Does the infrastructure provision they give justify the money?•How do you know if things would happen anyway• Does strategic work help to avoid duplication (otherwise •companies may overlap?) Should this be ACE role? (can they do this?)Viewpoint depends on past experience• Agency v delivery, function + purpose•If agencies are competing in the marketplace, it is a ‘waste of money’• RoleofLAartsofficers?Varieswidelyindifferentareas•Need for partners - helpful collaboration (LA should have place at the • table)Change in relationships with LAs (partners rather than •collaboratorsAgency mgiht find a vacuum if arts officers not there/not effective• Other types of (non-arts) infrastructure might be viewed •differentlyShould there be a rethink abut how ACE relates to rural areas - better • than direct from central govtRooting into communities - relevance•
By doing it big & well outside?
Convenor: Gina WestbrookParticipants: Gina Westbrook, Martin Pople, Tim Hill, Emily Williams, David Duthie, Melanie Wood
Key Findings
Some of the best work is being made outdoors• Can be small•Danger of ‘spectacular’• Is it • outside the theatreSomething that takes the top of your head off• Not precious, but exciting, interesting•Interrupting people’s reality• Danger - Leo Bassi exponent•10 minute experience to be taken on many levels• Using ritual•Live interuption eg the balloon performance with speakers over • houses, defying artformRoyal Deluxe (Sultan’s Elephant, rocket crash, pulling giant •out of waterTheatre is • not a placeTheatre comes from outside, place to view from•Young people motivated by outdoor work• Bringing drama with the ‘hype’•Imposition + choice in your personal space• Integraton of early english, depravity with context•Moving on from the aspic• Carnival’s strength in Somerset circuit, crowds everything •outMore and more outdoor with funding situation, engaging young • people and wider audience eg King Lear on WS railwayDoesn’t need a roof•
Does theatre even matter anymore?Convenor: Jac HuseboParticipants: Jac Husebo, Dominic Somers, Tanuja Amarasuriya, Lily-May Springer, Ralph Lister, Andy Field, Sarah Peterkin
Key Notes
Does theatre matter? YES