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©2015 Gainsight. All Rights Reserved. Our BFFs: Aligning CSM and Sales JENNIFER KIRKLAND Sr. Director of Customer Success Conversica ANTOINE VALENTONE Vice President of Customers for Life Showpad INDY GUHA Moderator Bain Capital Ventures JEN MINGO SVP of Customer Success and GTM Operation Radius

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Page 1: Our BFFs: Aligning CSM and Sales

©2015 Gainsight. All Rights Reserved.

Our BFFs: Aligning CSM and Sales

JENNIFER KIRKLAND Sr. Director of

Customer Success Conversica

ANTOINE VALENTONE

Vice President of Customers for Life

Showpad

INDY GUHA Moderator

Bain Capital Ventures

JEN MINGO SVP of Customer

Success and GTM Operation

Radius

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No 100% Perfect Solutions Here

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Key is to: • Have A Clear Model — • Clear KPIs and Quantitative Goals • And Iterate at Least Annually

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Radius CS Model 1.0

Survival Mode Challenges

Ø  1 CSM

Ø  No Customer Support

Ø  No Pre Sales Engagement

Ø  ONLY Supporting Post Sales Onboarding

Ø  Reaction – Reaction - Reaction

Ø  Issues Unresolved

Ø  Proper Expectation and Engagement Model not Established

Ø  No Time for Proactive Engagement and Growth

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Building a Strong Customer Success Organization is a Journey not a Destination

Radius CS Model 2.0

Ø  Define R & R based on Collaboration for Entire Customer Journey

Ø  Hire Hire Hire – You Own the Culture Take an Active Role

Ø  Implement Process, Supporting Tools, Training and Change Management

Ø  Measure, Learn and Adjust

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If You Learn 1 Lesson From Radius…

•  Build for Scale •  Finalize CSM Ratios and Offerings to Build a Model that

Contributes Margin to Company •  Brand and Market the Experience

What’s Next for Us………

•  Customer Success is a Journey and Requires Company Wide Collaboration and a Customer Back Focus

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Conversica CS Model

Operating Ratios

Pre-Sales •  Marketing

Won Account

•  Account Executive

Implemen-tation

•  Customer Success Manager •  Technical Account Manager

Ongoing Usage

•  Customer Success Manager

Retention / Upsell

•  Customer Success Manager •  Account Executive

The Stages and the Players Metric Target

Number of CSMs ~15

AEs per CSM NA

Accounts per CSM •  Division Dependent •  Customer Tiers

CS Performance target type

•  % Churn •  Expansion Revenue

Upsell / Cross-sell Comp Structure

•  AE Commission •  CSM Bonus

Biggest Wins:

• Consistent & trusted transfer •  Marketing to Sales to Customer Success

• CSM positioned as strategic partner • Goals aligned across teams

Trust

Partnership

Conversica AI Assistant

Gainsight Survey

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If You Learn 1 Lesson From Conversica…

Build mutual goals across teams

Sales: Trust in Customer Success allows focus on new business

Customer Success: Strategic customer partner to build mutual long term value

•  Begin customer discovery with pre-sales calls •  Upon signing, Gainsight Surveys to AE

•  Smooth, thorough knowledge transfer •  Report on indicators a customer will be successful •  Insight into roll-out nuances specific to customer

goals •  CSM sets strategic tone from Welcome call through

Advocacy •  Understands customer goals, strives for mutual

success •  Partner with AE’s when appropriate

•  Escalate if product and expectations do not align •  Large expansion opportunities

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Showpad CS Model

Operating Ratios

Pre-Sales

• Solution Architect • Account Executive

Won Account

• Solutions Architect • Account Executive

Implemen-tation

• Professional Services • Success Coach • Account Executive

Ongoing Usage

• Success Coach • Account Executive

Retention / Upsell

• Sales Engineer • Account Executive

The Stages and the Players Metric Target

Number of CSMs 13

AEs per CSM NA

Accounts per CSM 50 Max

CS Performance target type

95% gross retention 95% Assigned users 85% Active Users

Upsell / Cross-sell Comp Structure

AE gets commission

Biggest Win: We win as a team. Mutual respect and partnership with VP Sales & VP Product, and VP Engineering

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Driving the Right Behavior

Focus on Value 1.  Separate churn and state

•  Accounts Executives handle all $$$ conversations •  Success Coach’s demonstrate value which increases customer

engagement

2.  Not carrots or sticks •  No variable pay – 100% salary •  Success Coach’s are measured on the health of their patch •  Quarterly scorecard review with entire executive staff

Roles & Responsibilities

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If You Learn 1 Lesson From Showpad…

Value

Adoption

Retention

Focus on Value Like most SaaS organizations, we want to win, retain and grow customers. In order to do that, we focus on delivering value as early and for as long as possible. Generally speaking, customers are more willing to adopt and utilize solutions that enhance their lives. The result is, higher perceived value leads to higher adoption which leads to retention and growth.