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Paying for Long-Term Care Christopher W. Smith Megan Kiser, LBSW (248) 799-2711 [email protected] 9/13/2018 1

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Page 1: Paying for Long-Term Care - NCRO for LTC - Chrysler A.pdf · Long Term Care/Nursing Home Long term care/nursing home provides 24/7 skilled care. •Nurses on duty 24/7 •Daily cost

Paying for Long-Term Care

Christopher W. SmithMegan Kiser, LBSW

(248) [email protected]

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FinancialResources to be utilized before using the client’s money

• Medicare• Medicaid• Long Term Care Insurance• VA Benefits• No Fault / Accident Insurance• Private Insurance

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TIME + MONEY = OPTIONS

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Financial OptionsPrivate Funds Medicare Medicaid Long Term

Care

Insurance

VA Pension

Home w/

Assistance

Yes Maybe MI

Choice/PACE

Maybe Yes

Adult Foster

Care Home

(small)

Yes No MI

Choice/PACE

Maybe Yes

Large AFC/

Assisted

Living

Yes No MI

Choice/PACE

Maybe Yes

Nursing Home

(SNF)

Yes Limited Yes/PACE Yes Yes

Hospice Yes Yes for services

(but not room and

board)

Maybe Maybe Yes

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Assisted Living Facilities• Provide care in a setting

that is more of apartment type living

• Offer different levels of care (1-4)

• Assessed by facility before admissions

• Provide 24/7 staff

• Many ALF’s provide secured memory units

• Private pay, VA, some take Medicaid Waiver

• Not required to be licensed by the State

• Monthly cost ranges from 3500.00 –12,000.00

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Adult Foster Care HomesIs an actual home setting

• A home setting with 6 to 12 residents

• Required to be licensed by the state of Michigan

• Monthly cost is 879.00 to 8000.00

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Home Care

Staying in your own home and receiving in home care.

• Services provide by a home care agency

• Hire your own caregiver

• Going rate is 20.00 to 23.00 per hour for caregiver services

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Medicaid WaiverProgram designed for individuals

who might otherwise be in a nursing home.

• Must be financial eligible – Medicaid

• Must be medically eligible – Meet one of the seven doors

• Monthly income can not be over 2205.00

• Program provides community living supports (ADL’s and homemaking)

• Provides home modifications i.e.; ramps, bathroom remodel, grab bars

• Program is funded through Medicaid dollars

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PACEA program of All-inclusive Care

for the Elderly• Community based care for people who need

nursing home level of care

• Uses Medicare and Medicaid funds

• Team of Health care professionals to help make the health care decisions

• Large range of services provided

• Michigan has 15 PACE Centers

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Adult-Day ProgramsA coordinated day program for adults in a community-

based group setting.• Provide care to elderly persons and other adults with physical and/or cognitive impairments• Cost varies in each community – Charge is usually full day

orhalf day• Pay is private, Medicaid Waiver or VA(if they are a VA

provider)• Most participants are living with a spouse or adult

children

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Long Term Care/Nursing HomeLong term care/nursing home

provides 24/7 skilled care.• Nurses on duty 24/7

• Daily cost is about 275.00 per day

• Facilities accept Medicaid, private pay and long term care insurance

• Facilities take Medicare for rehabilitation days only

• Spenddown strategy

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Questions and Answers

Christopher W. SmithMegan Kiser, LBSWwww.mielderlaw.com(248) 799-2711

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