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PMP Candidate FeedBack Nettan – August 2017 Hi all, Took the exam this morning and passed! Happy, relieved, headache... lots of adrenaline infused emotions. :-) Do I dare say that I did not find it particularily difficult? But I have also studied a lot over the summer. I've done at least something pretty much every day since we left the Power Prep (with a few exceptions) and accelerated into spending 4-10 hours a day during the past 2-3 weeks. Yesterday I did nothing, except boost confidence that I'd done enough as well as prepare for how to get to the test center and what to bring. And I went to bed early... This is how and what I studied: Read the book in accordance with 20/80 recommendations. (Chapter 14 first, scan chapter 1-3 etc. etc.) Took the Power Prep course (and got confused and frustrated for a while...) Read the book again. From now on, chapter by chapter in no order but what I felt like at the moment, looking at notes and Ref. Manual to recall course materials and "Simon says". Ended every chapter session with completing the 20/80 drills and practice questions online plus the questions in the PMP Exam prep app. which is the one I liked the best in all aspects. (Yes, Simon found a 4th ed. question in it, but I have not seen any more and it has been updated recently.) Reviewed all the test results and read up on what I missed. Used the escalating "General knowledge" questions in the above app whenever I had time to spare or wanted to leverage my overall knowledge. (Reviewed results, took notes, read up...) Every day I wrote out the 47 processes grid and made sure I got them all. Since I failed to book an exam before midsummer, as was my original plan, I repeated some of the chapters already covered these last weeks. Learned to recognize ITTO's rather then learn every single one. Tried to find patterns like Project Charter is input to most plans, plans are input to their "sub-processes", plans and data are inputs to their respective control process and you get information from data. You use expert judgment for planning, but then you need data etc. etc. About ten days before the PMP exam I did my first four hour, timed, practice exam. Got a 75 % score and was discouraged, but after my fourth try (all different) a week later I believed I could do this. I think I've answered 2000+ questions and, for me, this is the best way to learn. Not only the material but also what to expect from the exam in terms of both terminology and subjects covered. (Used Oliver Lehmann's page recommended by Simon to find more tests.) Don't forget to read the "Other topics" chapters in the RM and do the exercises at the end of the RM. Also note that 20/80 has added a set of about 40 "situational questions" on our login page since June 30 My exam tactics: Leave home way early for a chance to eat a second breakfast in the car upon arrival. (And mitigate the risks of being late due to rush hour traffic as well as getting hungry too soon.) ;-)

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PMP Candidate FeedBack Nettan – August 2017 Hi all,

Took the exam this morning and passed! Happy, relieved, headache... lots of adrenaline infused emotions. :-)

Do I dare say that I did not find it particularily difficult? But I have also studied a lot over the summer. I've done at least something pretty much every day since we left the Power Prep (with a few exceptions) and accelerated into spending 4-10 hours a day during the past 2-3 weeks. Yesterday I did nothing, except boost confidence that I'd done enough as well as prepare for how to get to the test center and what to bring. And I went to bed early...

This is how and what I studied:

• Read the book in accordance with 20/80 recommendations. (Chapter 14 first, scan chapter 1-3 etc. etc.)

• Took the Power Prep course (and got confused and frustrated for a while...) • Read the book again. From now on, chapter by chapter in no order but what I felt like at the

moment, looking at notes and Ref. Manual to recall course materials and "Simon says". • Ended every chapter session with completing the 20/80 drills and practice questions online

plus the questions in the PMP Exam prep app. which is the one I liked the best in all aspects. (Yes, Simon found a 4th ed. question in it, but I have not seen any more and it has been updated recently.)

• Reviewed all the test results and read up on what I missed. • Used the escalating "General knowledge" questions in the above app whenever I had time to

spare or wanted to leverage my overall knowledge. (Reviewed results, took notes, read up...) • Every day I wrote out the 47 processes grid and made sure I got them all. • Since I failed to book an exam before midsummer, as was my original plan, I repeated some

of the chapters already covered these last weeks. • Learned to recognize ITTO's rather then learn every single one. Tried to find patterns like

Project Charter is input to most plans, plans are input to their "sub-processes", plans and data are inputs to their respective control process and you get information from data. You use expert judgment for planning, but then you need data etc. etc.

• About ten days before the PMP exam I did my first four hour, timed, practice exam. Got a 75 % score and was discouraged, but after my fourth try (all different) a week later I believed I could do this.

• I think I've answered 2000+ questions and, for me, this is the best way to learn. Not only the material but also what to expect from the exam in terms of both terminology and subjects covered. (Used Oliver Lehmann's page recommended by Simon to find more tests.)

• Don't forget to read the "Other topics" chapters in the RM and do the exercises at the end of the RM.

• Also note that 20/80 has added a set of about 40 "situational questions" on our login page since June 30

My exam tactics:

• Leave home way early for a chance to eat a second breakfast in the car upon arrival. (And mitigate the risks of being late due to rush hour traffic as well as getting hungry too soon.) ;-)

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• Spent most of the tutorial time brain dumping the 47 processes grid and the formulas that where not etched to my core. I find the EV formulas easier to remember by drawing out a diagram, plotting in the base values and then derive/deduce the actual formulas. That way I visually learned to type out all the formulas and just needed to memorize a few by heart. I drew that picture on the scratch paper, never looked at it... (Let me know if you want a picture.)

• From my practice test experiences I knew I would need a short break after about an hour as well as again after yet another hour, so when I started to feel I was loosing focus around those times I just walked out to the lobby for a glass of water and the loo. Just a couple of minutes was enough to feel refreshed.

• As I indicated above I might have been lucky with the selection of questions because after 1.15 I had already covered the first 100 questions, none where long stems, none required calculations and all covered subjects i felt I knew quite well. Of course some where confusing and I did mark them for later review. Still, this helped strengthen my confidence and kept me calm.

• Whenever I felt semi certain or had no clue, I heard Simon say: "Just guess and move on", so I did. With a mark to review...

• After the first run through, (almost 3 hours in) I went back for the three I did not answer at all and after that I went through the ones I had marked for review.

• During the review I did not leave the room but I took small brakes; closed my eyes, stretched, moved and took some deep breaths from time to time.

Type of questions:

• I had very few math problems, but one on TCPI where you needed to understand if you should use typical or atypical formula.

• No EMV, no PTA, no BCR, ROI, IRR or NPV. • One really easy on additional communication channels. • A few to interpret SPI/CPI information without calculating, all data given. • It felt like 20 of them were in the area "review the impact and/or initiate the change control

prcocess"... I'm sure I got a few wrong. • Many, many, many on "What should the PM do?", "What should the PM do next?", What

should the PM have done to prevent this?", "Which document should be reviewed?", "Which document should be updated?"

• None with extraordinary long text, but many with answers so similar we may fall short since English is not our main language and we don't know nuances or even the correct interpretations of the words. ("Guess and move on"...)

• Plenty on different diagramming techniques • ONE question on all the different human resource theories and it was on Tuckman's group

development... • Two CPM networks to draw and determine float on a particular activity. Not hard, but time

consuming and would have made me nervous had they come earlier than they did. • The one that stumped me completely was on "characteristics of quantitative project

evaluation" where the answers made absolutely no sense to me and I still have not been able to find an answer online. (Hint, hint, Simon?)

About the Kista test center; Prometric at Aktiviteten in Kista Entré:

• Plenty of parking space right outside the entrance, 20 SEK/hour • A bit of a walk from the subway/metro but I recommend that in front of the "pendel" train

'cause that station is even further, Don't know about buses.

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• Inside, turn right and follow signs to Aktiviteten" (Two more rights and up one floor.) • Locate the restrooms behind the check-in counter and the drinking water in front of it • Lockers will be provided later for all participants at the same time. (We where eight people,

full room, not only PMP testers.) • I only needed to show one ID (driver's licence, and no eligebility number etc.) to sign in • If you want food, other drinks than water or medicins etc. we were allowed to leave them at

the counter for access during the test. We could not access our lockers. • Security check, pretty much as described in all preparation documents and separate cameras

filming each desk. :-) • Decent temperature and adecuate ventaltion in the room. • Prometric provided calculators, ear plugs AND ear muffs besides the standard pencils and

scrath paper booklet.

Now I'm exhausted and need to go to bed as I start work tomorrow after five weeks of "vacation". Hopefully I will be able to coach two of my colleagues who aim to become PMP certified during fall.

Best of luck to all of you!

Cheers,

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Susanne – June 17 Subject: Re: PMP Exam progress?

Hi all

I did the exam this morning and I PASSED. Jippie 😃😃

Large weight of my sholders.

My study technique was as follows:

Started every study session with writing down Process groups and Knowledge areas.

For all chapters:

1) Read one chapter in PMBOK

2) Scanned same chapter in Ref guide and read the 'Other' section carefully

3) Read the Qs and answers in Ref guide

4) Took the test in the 'Slides' pdf

if any unclearitys I checked the Slides

A very short repetition session on the night before the test :-I

I also used a PMP-Qs app in my mobile when I had some time on the car or similar.

I did not feel like I had prepared enough this morning and was very uncertain if I should pass or not. My advice is to do more test Qs.

I did not have any tactic for the test. I wanted to see how the first hour developed, and I was faster then I predicted. And did not feel that there was any time pressure.

Alot of Qs was in the form: This or that have happened. What shoud he/she do next? Or what should have been done to prevent this? Or what document should be reviewed? These where difficult.

Have a nice summer and good luck on your preparations!

Regards

//Susanne

Ps. Fredrik, great effort on Vättern!

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Brigitte – June 17

Hi Simon,

Last Friday I took the exam and passed.

I was very happy as I found it really hard and my results were not brilliant… anyway, here my feedback on preparation and exam.

Prep Work:

Most useful: First of all the training. After understanding the concepts, it is more or less just finding the time to get it into the head to be able to memorize in the exam.

The material was very helpful, especially the drill practice before taking the questions.

Also the sample exams. Best used the first one a week before to identify if you are able to handle content and time pressure. That leaves some days to close gaps before going into the exam.

Exam:

Content (unfortunately no sufficient time to count no. of questions per process or topic):

Very little calculations, 4 very simple questions on EV to decide if behind or ahead of costs/ schedule, no ROI, no PTA and Fee adjustment calculations around it. No complex questions around schedule calculations and network diagrams (only very 3 simple ones) and no follow up questions based on one scenario.

Instead it “felt” about two third of the questions were starting around a change/ a risk occurring with impact on xyz. Often combined with “what should the PM do next...” or “what should PM have done in the past to avoid…”.

Own exam day strategy:

Have an initial go through all 200 questions as quick as possible first (and hopefully be able to close on a lot of them) and then review the incomplete/ marked ones for final answer.

The first run took me about 2,5 hours and I got very frustrated how less I was able to close in this run (~100-120).

But, based on the opportunity to at least close out obviously wrong answers and mark the buzz words in the first run I managed to get all questions answered by end of the 4 hours (really on last second!).

What was most useful during exam?

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- Brain dump of processes: it helped me to complete on ~20 questions just by navigating through the processes and excluding the last wrong answers.

- The ability to mark the buzzwords and to strikethrough obvious wrong answers.

- Brain dump of formulas: even if not used very much it saves from making really stupid mistakes

- Try to find own speed and not getting frustrated about not being able to close any of the first 20 questions at first visit…

- Taking a really short break of 5 minutes (mostly consumed by the check-out / check-in procedure) when feeling stuck after the first run-through

Hope this “brain dump” helps a bit for new exam candidates.

Best regards

Brigitte

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Janos - May 17

Simon, All,

First and foremost let me share the good news: I passed last Thursday!

Sorry for not writing before, but busy days here, no matter you are certified or not

So about the exam: it was hard for me to be honest…. I submitted it in the last minute, really used all the 240 min. I went through on all the questions once in ~3 and half hours, answered all, but there were many where I was not sure… so I marked ~60-70 questions for review. As I had only 30 min remaining, then I was able to review only half of those remarked questions before time elapsed…. So definitely a good advice: pick and mark an answer for all the questions FIRST, then mark it for review if you wish, but if will not have time to go back, then at least you answered and have at least 25% chance for the correct answer….

Secondly: very little calculation, just 3-4 EV, and decide about ahead / behind the schedule or budget. 2 simple network diagram and asking for float. But more questions on diagrams and tools than what I expected: for me 3-4 questions about Pareto diagram, Scatter diagram and Cause and Effect diagram / Fishbone / Ishikawa diagram. I mean 3-4 for Pareto, 3-4 for Scatter… Fortunately I knew them. and fortunately just 1-2 questions on the Motivation theory (Maslow / MsGregor, stuff like that….). That was a messy topic for me.

And tons of situational questions. 3-4 sentences about the situation, and “what is the best next” type of questions. Many.

I studied more than 100 hours for the exam, and for me it was needed. Most of the questions are describing a situation where you really need to know what is going on, where we are in the process, and you should have a really good overall understanding to pick a correct answer based on the relevant information... At least I felt that way.

So good luck! and just let me know in case of any question. Thanks.

Best Regards,

Janos

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Evelyn May 17 Hello all and Congratulations Janos!

I passed my exam on Monday and god was it hard! I ran out of time as well... So I can only recommend to answer all the questions, even if you are not sure. Put an answer, just in case.

I had time to do the brain-dump before, so that was not an issue, but it was no use to me I have to say.

I did not read the book after our course I have to say, I focused on exam questions and then went back to read up for every questions I answered wrong.

I am just glad it's over and I can ask for a 20% payrise. LOL

Simon, thanx for a great prep & let's keep in touch!

Good luck all with the exam! :)

Evelyn

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Petra – Audit – May 17 Hello Simon,

I hope all is fine with you:)

I got an audit when I paid the fee for the exam and now I got a negative result.

I am very disappointed and I do not know what to do. I have been running projects since 2009!

I do not understand what they mean with the following “we did not receive any of your project management work experience audit form”. I have specific asked for what they meant with “experience audit form” that were needed to be filled in but I never got any answer on that. I did not find any forms on their homepage. I have also been asking my colleges but any of them have been audited. What I did was to take my “experience list”, which I filled in on the PMI homepage, and got it signed by my manager.

Do you have any suggestion what to do? I have already paid the fee for the exam.

(I have answered the e-mail back as well to the “Application Audit”)

I am so disappointed.

BR Petra

~~

Hi I have to look up the exact procedure but the essence is that the responce to an audit is that referees complete audit forms to verify the experience you claimed and pmi accept your application on the basis of these. My un-reliable recall is the forms are sent to you you get the referees to complete and put in a sealed signed envelop and then return to you to return to pmi. I'll check and forward more complete details when I get home tomorrow. It's an inconvenience but based on qualifying experience can not be a show stopper Sent from my Samsung device ~~

Hi

So I went to the PMI website to check the details –

Procedures should be in the 1st audit email you have received from PMI -

The audit process for pmp is outlined in the first third of http://www.pmi.org/-/media/pmi/documents/public/pdf/certifications/audit-instructions.pdf

As far as I know the only link to the certification form is via the “you are being audited” eMail you got from PMI because while It looks like this but is personalised with your candidate number at the bottom.

Note the verification process is PAPER based. Print – Sign – Snail Mail.

Verifications must be in sealed envelopes with the seal signed-over

To continue to the exam you now have to submit a new application

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• Your application needs to make clear that you led and directed work in each of the 5 exam content outline domains – basically the 5 process groups – somewhere within your projects

• You don’t need every area in every project but you do need every area across all your projects

• You will now automatically be reselected for audited on the new application • The audit process is triggered by the payment • You (should!!) get the audit forms in the audit notification • You need to get the relevant manager(s) to verify the project(s) experience and return to

you in a sealed envelope • You need to send the form(s) to PMI • You have 90 days to complete the returns

After that you should be fine

Simon

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Krstina June 17 Hi all!

So today was the day for my PMP certification exam in Kista, and gosh, I was nervous when I arrived to the test center.

Only Id was needed, no other documents or so, many routines even a metal detector test before I got to enter the actual room where I was to take the test.

I was the only one taking the PMP certification today, so nice to have the whole test room by myself!

My tactics: write 47 processes and formulas first, then do 75 questions in ~ 45 min, take a short break, 75 more in around 50 min, now a break again and then the remaining 50, that should give me some time to go through the marked questions.

That plan worked 87% Well, 2 breaks of approximately 5-7 min, allowed ca 30 min to review the marked ones, then the 4 h session was at its end, puuuh!!

Was asked to fill in a questionnaire about the tests facilities and then ~ 1 min waiting ( pulse high...) and then the result was presented!

And what was my result then...? I passed!!!

OMG what fantastic feelings! Happy&Relieved&KindOfExhausted&Energized all at the same time!

My top advices

- chapter 14 in ref manual, make you own picture of processes and tools inputs and outputs so you know how the framework interacts.

- page 61 or the printed page w the 47 processes and the formulas, write them in the exam, but have practiced to write the fast before the exam

- practice on exam question ( I did loads!!! Thanks Simon for providing many many questions)

- try Olivers site and the timed test there, gives good speed indications for the exam

- go through simons slides for your repetition

- check the Swedish translation of words like warranty, waiver deflect etc that at least to me were not super clear before

- practice more questions

- read through the reference manual

- and... practice more questions

-relax the evening before

That was all!

To you all, good luck with your preparations! And to Simon , thanks a lot ( Grazie Mille!!!) for great preparations!!!

Best Regards Kristina, PMP certified :-)

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Hayden March 2017 I have just been advised that I failed the Audit with the following explanation (despite being a successful PM for the last 12 years)

Apparently the way that I have documented all of my experience does not meet with the PMI standards

So in addition to the hours of revision add a few more for filling in their forms

This has wasted too much of my life already – I wont be bothering to resubmit anything

The project management experience that you have listed on your application does not meet these requirements, because in one or more of your projects there were the following issues:

• Your project management work experience descriptions do not align with the five key process areas of project management (initiating, planning, executing, monitoring and controlling and closing) and we are unable to determine how you lead and directed the projects as detailed in the PMP Exam Content Outline(see link below) and the PMBOK Guide 5th edition section 3.2.

• The deliverables you documented do not indicate how you lead and directed in all five process groups (initiating, planning, executing, monitoring and controlling and closing) across all your projects submitted on the application as detailed in the PMP Exam Content Outline(see link below) and the PMBOK Guide 5th edition section 3.2.

• Multiple Projects on “Regulatory Programme” - PMI requires that projects be documented individually, regardless of the number of projects a candidate is documenting (see page 8 of PMP handbook link below). We require this so that we may review each project individually and guard against 'work' being documented; further, we require this so that we can ensure candidates led and directed on each project documented.

• There is a conspicuous absence of leading and directing cross functional teams throughout your experience. Leading and Directing Cross functional teams is a fundamental component of PMI’s definition of a professional project manager. (see pages 3,5,6 and 8 of the PMP handbook. Also please review the PMP Exam Content Outline link below)

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Halkan – March 2017 Hello Simon,

Tried for the PMP exam yesterday in Copenhagen, but missed again, it was a slight improvement from last time in November, I got two Moderately Proficent, last time it was all five Below Proficient.

I have a hard time to understand and value all these questions about change requests, “what would be the most likely action ….” and so on. It was a lot of these questions and perhaps only ten questions about Cost , SPI, CPI and so on, which I like.

I have prepared by reading and doing the test again in “Slides and Practice…. see enclosed, and for these I can “get a pass” , but I think I need some other test material which more reflects the real exam. It’s a pity that you don’t get the correct answers so I can see where I go wrong and somehow “break the code” how to pass exam.

I got this “175_PMP_Sample_Questions” on the course from you, thanks, but still it seems that real exam is tougher …

Can you help or guide me ?

BestRegards //

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Mikael March 2017 Hi all,

Thanks Simon for the good luck wishes.

I did the exam today…… and passed! Feels great to have reached “the end” of these intense two weeks.

I will share some reflections from the exam:

- The exam was really boring to take. A lot of the questions were very similar to each other. They tested far from all parts of the course material and it was very little of calculation and illustrations (~10 questions).

- I got very many questions on the below subjects so you might want to make sure you know them well:

o The way changes should be managed in the project. (Do it in a controlled was using the Perform Integrated Change Control process)

o Pareto diagrams and Ishikawa (fishbone) diagrams o Inputs, outputs, tools and processes related to risk o “…. what should you as a PM do next” and “… what should you have done to avoid

the situation” were common question structures o Slightly off topic: Bad weather (thunderstorms, etc.) seemed to happen external

suppliers a lot, which caused problems for the project - There were no questions on the form “Which of the following is not…” - There were basically no questions with a lot of bullshit information in the beginning. The

questions were quite concise and included relevant information - I took the exam in Stockholm and I wasn’t told not to brain dump during the “system

walkthrough” (first 15 minutes). So I did and it was fine. - The brain dump might be good to calm down, but I wasn’t really looking at it during the

exam - I used 3½ hours for the exam and did not feel stressed - You can right-click on options that you think are wrong to strike them out, that was helpful

to quickly focus on the most relevant alternatives. - Here’s a comprehensive summary on one page of the material: https://s-media-cache-

ak0.pinimg.com/originals/60/78/6b/60786b71a74687a67fbd4ecd050f2c76.jpg. It’s good to check that you know the terms. And although it’s called “cheat sheet”, don’t use it for cheating. They will check you on the way in and they have video cameras all over the place.

Last week’s preparations consisted of reading the reference manual once, reviewing my notes from class and doing one of the 200 questions practice exams included in the material. I did not read the PM book, just had a look at graphics which was not included in the reference manual. I did not learn all input, outputs and T&Ts by heart, they’re too many. And the exam did not ask specific questions like “which of the following is an input to XYZ process”.

With that said, good luck to you all! And let me know if you have any specific questions related to the exam.

Cheers!

Mikael

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Peter-O Dec 2016 Hello everyone,

I passed the exam earlier this week. My experience was that the 2 full test exams (as part of our training material) I did were easier when it comes to the time duration. Both these exams I could complete on about 3h 15min. The exam took all the 4h for me. I think that the reason was the longer texts to read. As I recall it almost all questions were shore project situation cases where it was not possible just to read the last 2 sentences. Only very few questions offered that. Also I spend about 15min (at the end of the 4h) on a single question with a simple network diagram that I still think was either wrong or the 4 alternatives were wrong. Anyway, since I am German and “Besserwisser” you can image how it is…;-)

One network diagram did not make sense either since it was looped, but there was an answer that reflected that.

All in all I liked that the questions were project cases from the “real world” and not many questions of input-tool-output process type questions, which I do not like. Surprisingly few EVM calculations and very easy ones, no PTA calculation, easy network diagrams (only Finish-Start relationships) and many questions about quality, risks and stakeholders. One interesting one was a diagram with CPI, SPI on the x resp. y-axis with a line connecting dots taken each reporting period. The curve can look like anything depending on how the CPI and SPI figure develops and in my case ended up in a spiral. Still easy to interpret in my opinion as long as you know whether the values are above or below 1, but never seen before. The question was also a bit unusual, but I cannot remember.

Congratulations for those of you who passed and Good luck for those who have the pleasure ahead and…

...Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Peter

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Peter-B Dec 2016 Hi guys,

I did the exam on Monday and am happy to say I passed, just barely though, it felt quite difficult… Time didn’t feel like an issue at first. I marked questions I was uncertain about and completed the test in less than three hours at which point I had about 40 marked questions. Some were really tricky and I just managed to review them all before running out of time.

Here are some other reflections from the test:

• Initiation – Not that many questions and not too difficult. A few questions on input/output from different documents and processes e.g. project charter and business plan.

• Planning – Judging by my result I struggled a bit here. Only three questions on calculating slack/free float etc. They took some time but not hard to answer. Several questions on different time estimating techniques which would be wise to know in detail before taking the test. This part felt ok on the test so I’m a bit puzzled…

• Execution – A majority of questions were on this phase and controlling (see next bullet). A lot on change control but also how to address/quantify risks and manage project teams/stakeholders. I would suggest learning all the different risk assessment tools by heart and knowing what to do if a risk actually happens. Only about 5 questions on cost. Toughest question required EAC=BAC/CPI, which means the other ones were fairly easy if you know the basic equations. A few questions (~10) on quality but if you know the basic tools and the difference between them you are well off.

• Controlling – A lot of questions regarding change control. Typically: “A customer/sponsor/stakeholder/project member wants to change/add new deliverables to the project, what do you do?” or “A change has been approved, what do you do next?”. I would strongly advice having a profound understanding on this section, felt like about 40 questions on the test.

• Closing – Very few questions. Two or three almost identical questions, something like “The project is about to close or is terminated. What do you do before closing?”.

Hope this is useful and best of luck on your exams!

And thank you Simon for a good course, don’t think I would have managed without it.

Regards

Peter

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From: Meere, William Sent: 21 August 2014 17:32 To: Rebecca Richardson; Bowles, Jamie (J.); Simon Harris (W8); Michael.Dahn; piotr.p.kuberka; Tomasz.Wozniak Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam  Well gang time for me to declare my hand, having rescheduled 4 times (work dramas) I finally sat it for the first time today and passed – just inside the eligibility window!  I cannot claim top of the class, all Moderately Proficient and one Below Proficient (Closing)  ‐ I suspect that’s a symptom of being at the back of the book!  A pass is a pass… Two days solid cramming was just enough – had done little since the course.  

None of the more complex formulae questions (EVM / TPA /EAC) – just many variants of SPI and CPI, and amazing 4 questions on communication channel calcs 

Only 1‐2 on present value, 3‐4 on PERT / 3 Point 

No standard Deviation questions 

2‐3 PDM questions – fwd and bwd passes, 1 float question, and quite a few crash/fast tracking questions 

3‐4 EV/AC/PV charts to interpret 

3 or so control charts to comment on 

No probability questions 

A few broader procurement questions (possible test ones) on contracting issues like force majeur 

A load on perform integrated change control – what to do in the event of a change imposed by a stakeholder or a customer 

Quite a bit on appropriate forms of comms and team development 

Lots of situational questions which required working out which process group the situation was in 

I had not learned the process inputs/outputs by heart but spent a fair amount of cramming on tools in order to separate from i/ps and o/ps.  I found a having a reasonable grip on the 47 processes was very helpful  

Hope that helps Simon.  All the best,  Will   

William Meere  Director Management Consulting   

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From: Bowles, Jamie (J.) Sent: 31 January 2014 12:46 To: Simon Harris (W8 Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam  Hi All,  Well it took me a fair while to complete my application and get around to scheduling the exam, but I finally took it yesterday and am pleased to say that I passed on the first attempt.  I found the question wording the biggest challenge, I had to read some questions 2 or 3 times. It took me 3.5hrs to complete all questions and the additional 30 minutes to review those that I had marked for review. Best regards,  Jamie  

   

From: Mike Dahn Sent: 13 November 2013 12:52 To: [email protected]; Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam  Hey   I passed my exam yesterday afternoon, in Amsterdam.  I got 2 Proficient and 3 moderately proficient ratings.  From a study perspective I must be honest I focused on just doing and redoing exam questions and then going back to the Study guide and Guide to the PMBOK for areas I got wrong.  I didn’t have too many formula questions.  I did have 1 question that confused me, as there was no duration for a task that I thought was dependent on determining a float, but I just guessed on it in the end…    The other ‘process’ type thing that a I realized is that in my study and testing I tended to focus on moving from Initiating through to closing, as we went through the material, however, I actually had closing questions first, which kind of through me in the beginning.  But I guess that was the intent.   Also, as Becs mentioned, there were plenty of questions on change control, and what would you do if the customer/a stakeholder/the sponsor/ a team member came up with a change….  Good luck for the rest on your study and exam.  Regards 

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Rebecca 04 November 2013 13:21Simon Harris (W8)piotr.p.kuberka; william.meere; michael.dahn; tomasz.wozniak; jbowlesI passed! I passed! I passed

Hi All, 

Just in case you didn't get it from the title if the email..... I passed. Took me about 3hrs including a full review.  

The first 100 took longer than I thought it would which threw me a bit.  But it obviously isn't matter in the overall scheme of things.  

The only thing I could say about the questions were that there were a lot if change control process ones. There were a number of calculations but not over loaded with them.  

Beware some really long questions that you just needed to read the end first and the answer was obvious. So although I didn't start any calculations I did read a lot if bumpf that wasn't necessary.  

There was one question that I was unhappy with so I might go back to them on it. It was a critical flow diagram where one if the activities didn't have a duration and they asked you to say the float if a different activity. Due to the structure the answer could be one of 2 answers. I had to assume that the timing of the activity was irrelevant.  

Let me know when you take your exams. I'm sure as a group we'll all pass :‐)  

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P.s. Initiation it the one part I've never really done so more than happy with result xx 

Rebecca Richardson Sent from my iPhone 

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Rebecca 31 October 2013 09:40Simon Harris (W8)piotr.p.kuberka; william.meere; michael.dahn; tomasz.wozniak; jbowles1RE: Study aid for PMP exam

Hi Simon, 

I used yours and the course, I also ran a check on line and just randomly hit resources that said they were updated for PMBoK5.  So not much help there. 

The Mark for Review process is as follows: 

When you answer a question at the bottom of the screen there is a button labelled “Mark for Review” so you can answer the question as you think it is but if unsure Mark it to review. 

At the end of the exam (may be during also) there is a button that says “Review” it brings up a screen showing a list of question numbers and they have icons next to them if you Marked them for review or if you didn’t answer them.

At the bottom of this screen it says “Review All”, “Review Unanswered”, “Review Marked”, “End” (I think, wording may be slightly different) 

If you click on the: 

Review All ‐ you go back to the beginning of the exam and click “Next” to go through each answer

Review Unanswered – You only go through the unanswered questions, so you answer and click next to gothrough. You can run this as many times as you want

Review Marked – as above, but guess what, only the ones marked for review are shown.  Once you havereviewed and are happy with your answer, remember to unmark it.  This way you can keep going throughthe ones you are unsure of until you are happy with them or just give up checking them 

Once you press end it asks if you are sure, on pressing yes I had a message to say that it would take a few minutes, and then a survey came up on the taking of the test and the centre.  It was only after I had finished that, and clicked through another message saying it would take a few minutes for my results that I got them. 

Word of advice, find out where the toilets are from your exam room, you have to clock in and out each time you leave and have the arms, legs and metal detector test each time you leave the room and the toilets at my centre was quite a long way away from the room.... 

On that note, hope the above information helps  Bec 

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From: Simon Harris (W8) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 31 October 2013 09:25 To: Rebecca etc Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam

CCCongrats & WELLL DONE  3 Above proficient is indeed high standard 

Thanks for the reflection of experience – did you find any new sources that I can add to my list or did you work from mine? 

I would also be interested if anyone can give a clear description of the “mark for review” mechanism – details are a bit hazy 

Regards 

Simon 

From: Rebecca Sent: 31 October 2013 08:54 To:Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam

Hi All, 

I passed on 24th  

I did email but it seems to have vanished into ether somewhere. 

I got 1 below proficient (initiation), 1 proficient (planning) and the other 3 where above proficient.  Only advise keep taking practice exams from different places as the wording changes and sometimes the wording threw me. 

I didn’t notice lots more calculations or scenarios, I noticed tons on change control.  That doesn’t mean there weren’t a lot on the calculations, there were, there were just more on change control. 

Good luck to everyone else if you haven’t already taken it  

Bec  

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From: Simon Harris (W8) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 31 October 2013 08:01 To: Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam

HELLO!  

I wondered how you all are progressing? 

“Word on the street” is at the exam is tougher than previously, more calculation questions more scenario questions, answers that are closer in applicability. 

Be great to get an update on your situations and to hear about exam bookings mad/ experience 

Best regards 

Simon 

From: Simon Harris (W8) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 October 2013 09:11 To: Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam

GREAT !   

I’ll wish you luck  but the key is preparation and I’m sure that by now you’ve found a rhythm. 

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For those who left the course and have done nothing since this might serve as a reminder – 1hr a day or a couple full‐on weekends then the exam 

Best regards 

Simon 

From: Rebecca Sent: 17 October 2013 08:38 To: Subject: RE: Study aid for PMP exam

Hi All, 

Just to say I’m booked in for 9am on 24th.  Wish me luck  

Bec 

From: Simon Harris (W8) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 October 2013 07:11 To: Subject: Study aid for PMP exam

Hi 

I put everything (except 500mb of audio) at http://pmp.logicalmodel.net/5/studyaid – the ‘attachments’ tab links to the other files such as the RDS syllabus description & spreadsheet 

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I stopped trying to create an iphone friendly version 

If your on linked in I am at www.linkedin.com/in/simonharrispmp ‐ a link (and a recommendation would be welcome  ) 

Mail each‐other to let us all know when you book your exam and when you have passed 

Best regards 

Simon 

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Michael.Dahn13 November 2013 12:52 RE: Study aid for PMP exam

Hey All 

I passed my exam yesterday afternoon, in Amsterdam. 

I got 2 Proficient and 3 moderately proficient ratings. 

From a study perspective I must be honest I focused on just doing and redoing exam questions and then going back to the Study guide and Guide to the PMBOK for areas I got wrong.  I didn’t have too many formula questions. 

I did have 1 question that confused me, as there was no duration for a task that I thought was dependent on determining a float, but I just guessed on it in the end…   

The other ‘process’ type thing that a I realized is that in my study and testing I tended to focus on moving from Initiating through to closing, as we went through the material, however, I actually had closing questions first, which kind of through me in the beginning.  But I guess that was the intent.  

Also, as Becs mentioned, there were plenty of questions on change control, and what would you do if the customer/a stakeholder/the sponsor/ a team member came up with a change…. 

Good luck for the rest on your study and exam. 

Regards 

Michael Dähn Senior Project Manager - Finance IT

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Simon Harris

Morning Simon,

Apologies for not replying sooner, I decided after the strain of preparing for the PMP exam and a heavy workload at work to take a little break so me and the family went to Dubai for a short period. Now feeling fully refreshed its back to work.

In terms of the questions on the exam apart from the first 20 or so questions that were slightly more difficult than the rest, they were of a very similar nature to the ones experienced during the course and through the RITA Exam Prep simulator. I did manage to get hold of some questions through the internet but they were terrible in relation to what was on the exam. Most of the terminology used was, I'm guessing, made up as I'd never come across it before and the reasons behind some of the answers was poor at best. The questions that you currently use in the course you deliver are more than suitable for ensuring you are ready for the exam, well until you find out what changes they are making to the exam I suppose.

Moving away from the PMP exam I have a few questions for you if that is ok?

I'm thinking of attempting to gain the Prince 2 qualification later in the year and remember you saying there was course material available on your website to help with this which I will look at at home as I cannot access it properly through our system here. I'm a little confused though when I look for details of the Prince 2 qualification on the internet as it seems to suggest you need to attend a training course before sitting the exam. Is that correct or can I just sit the exam? Also it is split into foundation and practitioner qualifications. Do you need both or if you have the practitioner do you not need the foundation?

Also are there any other good PM related qualifications that you would recommend trying to obtain? I notice you have the Management of Risk (MoR) and International Project Management Association (IPMA) qualifications. Do you feel these are worthwhile having? How hard are they to obtain?

Apologies for all the questions but after obtaining the PMP I seem to have caught the learning 'bug' once again and am eager to make the most of it whilst I have it. Its been 7 years since I passed my Engineering HND and nothing has really taken my interest in terms of qualification since, until now that is.

Thanks in advance for you help.

Hope you are well and look forward to hearing from you soon.

Chris.

From: Simon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:13 PM To: Bramwell, Chris (KSA) Subject: RE: PMP Exam PASS confirmation Form

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Thanks, much appreciated One last question if I may: I wonder, did you find the questions equal in style and difficulty to the ones on the course, harder or easier? 

Enjoy the cat 

Simon 

From: Bramwell, Chris (KSA) Sent: 18 May 2011 10:20 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: PMP Exam PASS confirmation Form

Morning Simon,

Apologies for not replying sooner its been a very busy few days at work.

In my opinion there is nothing needs changing from the course. There is so much to cover in a few days that you don't have time to go in to great detail about each section and therefore its up to the individual to do some more work away from the classroom. It will become very evident that those that don't generally fail the test and those that do will generally pass.

In terms of the actual exam itself AbdulRazzaq and myself seems to notice the following similarities between our 2 tests

- Conflict Management - Approx 5 questions asking you which technique to use - EVM - Approx 5 questions - Using all the formulas including TCPI - Inputs and Tools & Techniques - Approx 10 questions. Don't think I had any asking for an output. - Processes - approx 5 questions giving you an example of where you are in the processes and what you would expect to do next - Risk - approx 10 questions on risk processes and which technique you would use - The first 20-25 questions are fairly difficult which makes you begin to panic about whether you know enough to pass. I marked maybe 15 of them for review and when I came back to them at the end I found them easier to answer.

Also I think the 25 'dummy' questions were quite difficult to spot, I noticed a few but I would say no more than 5/6 of them.

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One of the tricks I used when marking questions was not to input an answer at all as in the practice exams when I came to review the questions I'd marked I changed a lot of my answers from the correct one to an incorrect one.

Hope this is of assistance to you in terms of future courses,

Oh and we did get a cat, the afternoon after taking the test actually, it was considered a present for passing even though I wasn't overly keen on having one?!?!

Hopefully see you out here in KSA again sometime soon.

Chris.

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I wonder, how representative do you feel the questions in first Rita's and the course are? Have you a suggestion that with hindsight would have improved the classes preparation for the exam? 

Good luck  

Simon 

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Hi Simon :-)

I also passed the exam this week. Had to go to Bratislava because Vienna was full till end of June :-/

First of all I want to thank everybody for the comments!!! You guys really woke me up. I studied approx. 60 hours for the exam (after London).

My experience: A lot of difficult questions about all different kinds of closure activities. I did not pay enough attention to this ...

I would really think twice about taking the exam in German next time. BTW: I love the CDs we got. Reading the ESI script, then listening to the CDs (maybe cross-reading some few chapters in the PMBOK), and at the end doing the prep questions worked very well for me :-)

Funny thing at the end: I somehow ended up singing AC/DC's "T.N.T." Song with "P.M.P." in the chorus instead :-P P.M.P. - I'm Dynamite P.M.P. - And I'll win the fight

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Hey guys,

I took the exam today and passed... phew!

There were a lot of questions on risk and quality and also the closing process group. I was surprised about the amount of earned value questions - there were about 8 or 9 and all were calculation questions, none on the theory. Some of the calcs were quite tricky as the data I was expecting to see wasn't there - perhaps these were test questions.

I had a lot of situational questions but not many on inputs and outputs. There were also a lot of definition questions, especially around tools and techniques.

All in all, the questions were a lot harder than the practice questions I've been doing. Mostly because of the phrasing of the questions but also because for a lot of questions there seemed to be two good answers so it was a case of picking the best out of the two - this was especially true for the professional responsibility questions.

You get 15mins for the computer orientation - it took me about 5 mins to go through this so I used the rest of the time to draw out the process matrix and brain dump the calculations - both of these things helped during the exam so I would recommend doing them.

Good luck to everyone who hasn't sat the exam yet - I hope this info helps.

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Hi All,

Congratulations on those who passed!

Of fortunately I didn’t pass… I took my exam yesterday and I had topics like:

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• Questions on Perth, EV,

• Monetary Budget questions

• Network diagram questions

• I also had contract type questions

• Questions on professional & Responsibilities, how to approach when you see somethingincorrect how to deal with certain situations

• Processes and knowledge area questions about what is the Input, outut for severalprocesses.

All the best for those who need to (re-) take it!

Good luck to you all!

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Congratulations Gordon!

I’m happy to say that I also passed this morning!

My comments are pretty close to yours in fact:

• Quite some questions on Risk and Quality with examples of a certain scenario andactions taken asking you to identify what type of risk response it was.

• Quite some on processes not only regarding tools/inputs/outputs but also on type ofactivities performed with examples. Close to what we see in the blue book under theprocesses 1st slide in each Knowledge area.

• Very few calculations, mainly on EV Model.

• Only one Network diagram.

• Wording was different than the trial exams we saw but still the exams and type ofapproach was useful to be prepared.

• I had quite a lot on contract types and when will you use them or which one will thecontractor or vendor prefer f.ex. What I didn’t like too much is that Times&Material was inmost of the questions as an option… I never selected it but I don’t know if I was right ornot. I didn’t have questions on contract price calculations.

• Quite some questions on conflict resolution techniques. Again examples for you toidentify which technique it was.

• A few questions that I found quite cryptic in the way they were written I was wondering ifit was even proper English I almost guessed since it wasn’t easy to know if they were positioned as the PM or the company owner or as seller or vendor etc. Maybe the test question…

Well, good luck for those taking it soon and… perseverance to take it again soon for those who need to re-take it!

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Simon,

Just to let you all know i took the PMP exam today and delighted to say i passed.

I found the exam very taxing, not what i had expected at all.

General points i found were :

• Wording was very different to what we had been exposed too on the test papers.

• I found a lot of the questions really taxed my understanding in the way they wereworded, it required a lot of understanding in order to decipher what they were after.

• There were a lot of straight forward “what is this ?” type questions also though

• As previously mentioned i thought it was heavily weighted towards questions onQuality and Risk and this was the area i performed worst.

• There were only 5 or 6 questions needing calculations several asking you about whatthe EV was ! none on pert which was disappointing for me .

• I noticed quite a few questions regarding conflict management

• I even had a question on NPV

• Several i had to guess as had no idea only hoped they were from the 25 testquestions.

The centre itself was ok , easy to find , you’re not allowed to take anything in with you , wallets, watch , etc etc . You can go to toilet if you like .

The time went amazingly quickly,, i used up the full 4 hrs ...

However main thing is i have passed ..

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I passed the exam last Friday!

The exam was a bit tougher than I expected, with some of questions were playing with words and tried to mislead ppl. I had to read the questions and answers very carefully. The questions were quite even from all KBs and processes and only a few questions need to use calculator.

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Thanks, just wanted to let you know I found your diagrams and my resulting notes from your explanations extremely useful – I referred mostly to these for my revision and it did the trick!

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Hi all,

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I took the PMP exam this afternoon and passed. It took me 2 hrs 30 ish, and I’d echo the useful feedback from Anton & Kevin that the questions seemed harder than the sample exams we did in that there seem to be more ‘correct looking’ answers which it’s more difficult to distinguish between. I only used the calculator for a handful of questions, most of the numerical questions for me were concerning the CPI/ SPI. A number of questions were pure guesses for me as the answers were so similar that if you don’t remember the exact wording for all the processes/ inputs/ outputs etc, you’ll be hard pressed to choose between them. Due to this oddly my worst scoring area was ‘planning’, when this was OK and I was having more trouble with the more number oriented areas in practice!

The overall Prometric experience is fairly draconian, but there are lockers that will accommodate a small rucksack and a coat, and they DO allow you to exit the exam room to use the toilet or get a drink from the water cooler, though you are not allowed to take it back in with you or access your locker while you’re out, plus the exam clock keeps ticking.

Hope this is of use, and good luck to all of you in your endeavours!

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Hi All

Just to let you know that I took the PMP exam on Tuesday and passed !!

Feedback from Anton & Kevin was extremely useful - thank you. Kevin's comments seemed to reflect exactly how I found the exam. Risk type questions definitely appeared to dominate the exam. Similar to Kevin, I too performed the worst in the Professional Conduct questions - I found these the most difficult because there were always 2 answers that I could not choose between !! Maths questions were very simple and nothing to worry about. There was only one PDM diagram and the question associated with it was very basic.

I finished with 40 mins to spare and used that remaining time to go through any marked questions.

Good luck everybody !!

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Folks,

Just to let you know I sat/passed the PMP exam this morning…

Looking at Anton’s feedback this is very good,… very accurate to what I experienced also… thanks for that Anton..

Although we must have had some differences in our question base as I don’t remember:

One giant Network Diagram (boxes A K), but only had to calculate critical path

…..In general a key area that you should make sure you are hot on is risk… in depth from planning through to responses… there seemed to be an inordinate number of questions directly on risk or in using risk as a way of covering other scenarios within other areas..

Change as per Anton also high on the count score… Aside from these areas I thought there was a pretty good balance across all the areas of the course..

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I took Professional Conduct for granted when reviewing the course over the weekend easy points in the bag etc.. (mistake: received my lowest mark here ) although the questions here are a little more difficult than I would have thought – on a few I remember sitting with two answers and just did not know what one to go for – thinking what is the BEST answer did not help either– and found myself deploying last resort strategy of what one is the longest answer strategy .

What worked for me:

• Review the pictures/associated notes – concepts are important for quick points andelimination of alternatives and I found I could carry them mentally into the exam…

• Review the blue book and your associated notes (also as per Anton below you needto know the differences between i/ps, o/ps, tools/ techniques and where they areused… as they are often lumped together in a list and you need knowledge of whatthey are and when they would be used to hook correct one.

• There are a couple of one liners said during the week that are very helpful in pickingup quick points also… (so taking the exam earlier would work in that regard orreviewing your notes could help here)

Other misc:

Did not use the calculator and thus EV type questions are conceptual or answer is in front of you no need to calculate.

Easiest questions I thought were closing projects.

Time wise completed with 10 mins to go – never tagged any / returned to any thought I would just go with what the average run rate would be for a 25 question block and adjust my speed based on checking how I was doing to that strategy – found myself speeding up and slowing down accordingly… worked for me…

Also I think you can ignore the information that you may get at the pro metric centre re rest periods and how you sign in and sign out etc… with PMP alas there are no breaks in the exam program to give you this option.

Thanks and good luck to you all when you sit it.

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Hi all,

Hope you all got home safe & well. It was a good week; I enjoyed the class atmosphere. No good news on my exam I'm afraid: I did not pass the exam. During the exam I had a reasonable good feeling about it, but the end result was negative on all process groups, except Initiation.

I hope the braindump below is of use.

On the questions: Many questions looked different from any of the practice exam questions; different style of questioning, and trick answers. Questions on all aspects of the course Many on Change; what should you do when change is introduced during various stages of the project, by various

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types of people EV questions, some with calculations, some just the 'understanding the concept' questions. One giant Network Diagram (boxes A K), but only had to calculate critical path. No questions with float calculations Lots on Professional Conduct Quite a few questions on Contracting type of contracts. Even on T&M contracts about 5 questions on the Closeout. Lots of questions on Risk, including Risk avoid, transfer, mitigate etc A number of WBS related questions. A number of HR 'dealing with people' questions (incl virtual teams) No arrow diagram questions, types of estimates (OOM, etc), not many on organization types (only 2 or so)

Tips on learning: Observe the test-taking tips. 200 Q's and 4 hours is a big thing… Know you processes (we knew this tip that already), especially the Tools but also the Inputs. You should be able to 'dream' the 'funny name' tools, such as Pareto, GERT, Nominal Group Technique, Monte Carlo, etc Same for many other process tools with slightly more meaning full names such as Statistical sampling, Flowcharting, run chart, variance analysis, Know the estimating tools (in Estimate Costs) Know the contract types and when they are used. Understand differences between Quality Control and Quality Management (which process group, relation to closeout) Practice the EV stuff, but don't worry about the complex calculations. The graphic on this is handy to know and understand how it works.

About the London Prometric centre: Not much to say really. I was not allowed to have anything in my pockets and not allowed to carry a watch. It was ok to wear clothes :-) It's a big place, with many many booths. No place to safely store laptop bags and suitcases. Small lockers available. Closest tube station: Bank.

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Also passed

Exam was tougher than I expected. It was harder to differentiate between a correct and a ‘more correct’ answer in a lot of questions compared to the practice tests.

I did not get time to revise since the PMP so took 3 days to cram before the exam. I re-read both the ESI text books (slides and student manual) and took one of the full practice exams. I planned to memorise all inputs, tools and outputs but this was a bit optimistic Instead I memorised ADOPE, JAMESM and DUC and used this for the (limited) questions that came up. Learned the main formulae (CV, SV, SPI, CPI, EAC, ETC) but not all. Only needed to use these. CPM questions very straightforward.

Quite a lot came up on quality, procurement and conflict resolution that I should have spent more time on.

Did not touch the PMBOK.

Not sure what other people found but by the end of 3-day revision I had got my average test score up from 70% to 90% but in the final exam I scored below proficient in three knowledge areas, and only moderately proficient in 3 others!! So I don’t know if 70% in the practice exams is enough to ensure a pass – perhaps 80% is a safe benchmark.

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Time-wise I was done in 2 hrs and spent 10 minutes reviewing the ones I’d marked.

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All,

Today I passed the PMP Exam in Amsterdam, Netherlands.

The test centre facilities are ok. The checking-in process was not so severe as described by Martin. I did not have to turn my pockets inside out and I could keep my watch on.

There were a lot of questions concerning risk management and conflict handling. Also almost no calculations were required, although it is important to remember the formula’s to answer these questions.

During the exam I experienced some issues with specific English words of which I did not understand the meaning exactly. A Dutch translation is not available. This made it more difficult for me to select the answer.

Good luck to those who did not take the exam yet.

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Rebecca 04 November 2013 13:21Simon Harris (W8)piotr.p.kuberka; william.meere; michael.dahn; tomasz.wozniak; jbowlesI passed! I passed! I passed

Hi All, 

Just in case you didn't get it from the title if the email..... I passed. Took me about 3hrs including a full review.  

The first 100 took longer than I thought it would which threw me a bit.  But it obviously isn't matter in the overall scheme of things.  

The only thing I could say about the questions were that there were a lot if change control process ones. There were a number of calculations but not over loaded with them.  

Beware some really long questions that you just needed to read the end first and the answer was obvious. So although I didn't start any calculations I did read a lot if bumpf that wasn't necessary.  

There was one question that I was unhappy with so I might go back to them on it. It was a critical flow diagram where one if the activities didn't have a duration and they asked you to say the float if a different activity. Due to the structure the answer could be one of 2 answers. I had to assume that the timing of the activity was irrelevant.  

Let me know when you take your exams. I'm sure as a group we'll all pass :‐)  

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Rebecca 31 October 2013 09:40Simon Harris (W8)piotr.p.kuberka; william.meere; michael.dahn; tomasz.wozniak; jbowles1RE: Study aid for PMP exam

Hi Simon, 

I used yours and the course, I also ran a check on line and just randomly hit resources that said they were updated for PMBoK5.  So not much help there. 

The Mark for Review process is as follows: 

When you answer a question at the bottom of the screen there is a button labelled “Mark for Review” so you can answer the question as you think it is but if unsure Mark it to review. 

At the end of the exam (may be during also) there is a button that says “Review” it brings up a screen showing a list of question numbers and they have icons next to them if you Marked them for review or if you didn’t answer them.

At the bottom of this screen it says “Review All”, “Review Unanswered”, “Review Marked”, “End” (I think, wording may be slightly different) 

If you click on the: 

Review All ‐ you go back to the beginning of the exam and click “Next” to go through each answer

Review Unanswered – You only go through the unanswered questions, so you answer and click next to gothrough. You can run this as many times as you want

Review Marked – as above, but guess what, only the ones marked for review are shown.  Once you havereviewed and are happy with your answer, remember to unmark it.  This way you can keep going throughthe ones you are unsure of until you are happy with them or just give up checking them 

Once you press end it asks if you are sure, on pressing yes I had a message to say that it would take a few minutes, and then a survey came up on the taking of the test and the centre.  It was only after I had finished that, and clicked through another message saying it would take a few minutes for my results that I got them. 

Word of advice, find out where the toilets are from your exam room, you have to clock in and out each time you leave and have the arms, legs and metal detector test each time you leave the room and the toilets at my centre was quite a long way away from the room.... 

On that note, hope the above information helps  Bec