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The Death of Long Term Care Insurance – What Do We Do Now? Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

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Page 1: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

The Death of Long Term Care Insurance – What Do We Do Now?

Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and

Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Page 2: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Where have we come as a society in caring for our elderly?

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Page 3: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Sometimes the journey to the “end” is not all that clear!

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Page 4: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

The challenge of paying the cost – The facts!

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

10 million American's (7 million of which are over 65) are receiving some level of assisted living today.

Total cost of care in 2006 = $207 billion and in 2009 $240 billion.

Of these numbers about 50% is paid by Medicaid and only 11% is covered by private insurance like long term care protection.

The annual cost for skilled nursing care is around $73,000.

Source: Journal of Financial Services Professionals, July, 2012 – “The Imperfect Match between Long-Term Care Risk and Long-Term Care Insurance” by Harold Weston

Page 5: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

The cost estimates from the Feds

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Costs taken from Genworth 2013 Cost of Care Survey

Page 6: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

The Fact is the cost for care is soaring and many of us will face the risk head on…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Page 7: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

What’s your experience?

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Who has had a personal experience with long-term care?

How many of you own long-term care insurance?

How many of you know if your parents own (or owned) long-term care insurance?

Page 8: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

History of long-term care insurance

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Created in the mid 70’s by CNA and Unum who both no longer offer the coverage and were the first to dump the product in the early 2000’s.

Various carriers have entered and left the industry.

“Qualified LTCI” was introduced in 1996 with HIPPA and is the standard policy design today.

There were at one time over 100 carriers selling LTCI and now there are only a handful.

Page 9: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

The Government and Long-Term Care – The Class Act

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

With Obamacare there was a provision called the Class Act (Community Living Assistance Services) that was the Fed’s solution to providing citizens with affordable long-term care insurance.

It was only in the bill for a little over a year and quietly rescinded on October 14, 2011.

Even the federal government (surprise) has not found a real solution…

Page 10: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long-term Care Partnership Program

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Partnership with State Medicaid and long-term care insurance carriers to shelter personal funds and your residence in the event of an extended long-term care event.

Essentially a dollar for dollar offset by the amount your policy pays is equal to the amount of personal assets and/or your home is protected.

Policies must be Partnership Qualified (PQ) policies to qualify.

17 carriers licensed in the state offer a plan…

Page 11: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Carrier and agent pledge regarding premium increases

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

At the time of policy sale the agent and carrier convey their pledge that the premium will stay level for the clients lifetime.

The disclosure states clearly that the carrier can increase premiums on the policy series and pool of insured's – and many have raised their rates.

Page 12: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Examples of “Notice of increase in premium.”

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Client A – Premium increase – accepted

Client B – Premium increase, dropped coverage

What to watch out for – non-forfeiture option can be the default or signature page

Page 13: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Why have premiums increased?

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Interest rates have dropped to ZERO

Expected Lapse Ratios have not occurred

Claims have been higher and longer than expected

Little historical morbidity experience

Page 14: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Stories -

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Client A– Successful LTC Story

Client B– Insurer raised rates 60%

Client C– Used all of her CNA Benefit this year – premiums paid $16,500, benefits collected - $350,000

Client D– no long term care – used all their assets

Page 15: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

For clients who have long term care insurance – what to watch

out for…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Review the benefits of the long-term care policy annually.

Prepare the client for premium increases.Watch out for increase premium notices that offer

non-forfeiture benefits – the insurers best friend.Lapse protection notifications – make sure the

carrier has up to date information.Claim time – Who and where you call for claims –

Involve the children.

Page 16: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Conduct Policy Review

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Carrier healthAgent or servicing office – who to call at the time of

service or claim.Benefits available –

Waiting periodDaily benefit Maximum benefit period / amountCost of living increase Level of care – home health, assisted living, nursing homeShared benefits with spouseMiscellaneous benefits – Respite care, restoration of

benefits, etc.

Share information with the family, advisors and care givers

Page 17: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long-term care insurance Alternatives

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Buy LTCI now before there are no longer any carriers left.

Consider the following – Self pay – Consider the costs and using the personal

residence as your funding source Continuing Care Retirement Community (CCRC)Call the kids and move in with themHybrid products – annuities and life insurance with

LTCI benefitsLongevity Insurance

Page 18: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long Term Care Alternatives

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Annuity with long-term care benefit rider

No underwriting (typically)

Limited pool of dollars and increasing gap for providing coverage

Easy access to the dollars

Tax consequences on withdrawals (qualified vs. non-qualified dollars)

Page 19: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long Term Care Alternatives…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Life Insurance with long-term care riderMust qualify for the coverage.

No need for the life insurance if the LTCI is used.

Limited benefits and risk of shortfall in benefits to cover risk.

Can be an alternative if all the right signs are there.

Most existing policies have an “Accelerated Death Benefit” option that if you are terminally ill you can access some (usually 50%) of the death benefit before you actually die.

Page 20: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long Term Care Alternatives…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Longevity Insurance

Great idea if you live to the targeted age.

Will there be enough benefit.

Good alternative for clients who have longevity in their family.

Page 21: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Long-Term Care Partners Program, LLC

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

For Federal Employees

Two types of programs available

If you have federal government employee as clients they should consider this option

Page 22: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Yes – There are many options…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Make sure the client has a plan or has at least discussed the topic and have made a decision.

Take careful notes of the conversation with the client.

Get a written waiver if the client has no plan or coverage to protect yourself from family questions.

Page 23: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

I guess there is one other option…

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Page 24: Presented by Paul S. Viren, CLU, ChFC, AEP “For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public” Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC,

Don’t forget the basics…!

“For Professional Use Only and Not For General Public”Securities offered through LPL Financial, Member FINRA/SIPC, Investment Advice offered though Viren and Associates, Inc., a registered investment advisor and separate entity from LPL Financial.

Powers of Attorney

Directive to Physicians

POLST Form “Physicians Order for Life Sustaining Treatment”

Involve Family – Communicate

Have a plan – make sure to have an Emergency Contact document of some kind…

Love Letters