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Product & Price List

Upated April 2018

VAT: All prices shown are subject to VAT at the standard rate

Web: www.17d-miniatures.co.uk

Works Address

Units 12 & 13 Via Gellia Mills, Bonsall, Matlock, Derbyshire DE4 2AJ(Visitors welcome, by appointment please)

Tel: 01629 825070 or 07780 956423

Email:

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5” & 7 ¼” Gauge Ride-on CoachesNow also available as a kit – see next page but one →

Our ride on coaches lead the way in passenger carrying models for the 5” & 7¼ inch gauge enthusiast. Steel body & chassis, along with our heavy duty semi-scale bogies makes these coaches a must have for those wanting quality and reliability.

Practical levels of detail with correctly profiled padded seats ensures these coaches look the part behind your engine and provide hours of enjoyment for you, passengers and onlookers alike.

Price from: 5” g. £1495.00 – 7 1/4” g. £1995.00

Optional upgrades to base model: Two colour livery + £150.00;

Dual manual brakes upgrade (2 calipers/discs) + £190.00;

7¼ version: Integrated Vacuum/Manual brake system + £314.00

More complex or extensive decals / lettering + £ 30 (ie as in GWR version (as opposed to just number and crest) – please ask.

Available versions: Brake, Buffet, and Second------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7¼” gauge BR Mark 1 CoachThe model photographed here - our prototype - is the RBR variant.

Highly detailed and very close to scale, featuring Commonwealth bogies, sprung corridor connectors, prototypical fully working retractable buffers. Roof, body and chassis detailing, ie door handles, hinges, window frames, battery boxes, etc.

Pricing:Base price (ie, ready to run, painted, lined and lettered) £ 3,000.00Add scale working vacuum operated brakes: £ 600.00Interior fitted out, ie interior lining, seats, tables, etc (as appropriate to model: £ 900.00 Restaurant Car variant interior: £ 1,050.00


Scale Inspection Saloon Driving Car – in 5” & 7 1/4” gauge

NEW! Now available as a kit – see next page →

Supplied ready to run with disc brake, removable upholstered roof, removable foot rest. The perfect driving solution - smart, comfortable and impressive behind any standard gauge loco.

The 5” version is designed to carry a driver, plus - with running board & dual disc -brake upgrade - a child or lighter weight adult passenger (due to suspension restrictions of thescale bogies). 7 ¼” version will comfortably carry 2 adults, possibly 3.

Price from: 5” g. £1495.00 – 7 1/4” g. £1995.00

Optional upgrades to base model: Two colour livery + £150.00;

Dual manual brakes upgrade (2nd caliper) + £120.00;

7¼ version: Integrated Vacuum/Manual brake operation + £314

More complex or extensive decals / lettering + £ 30 (ie as in GWR version (as opposed to just number and crest) – please ask.

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7 1/4” g. Diesel Brake Tender Driving Truck

Removable fully upholstered seat, with amplestowage space below, fitted with twin disc brakingwith removable lever, and removable running boards.

Price - £ 1250.00

New product: Coach Kits

Available to order: Our standard Ride-on coaches & Inspection Saloons.Buy as complete kit – and save money ! Or buy as you build, for the budget conscious: All parts available separately.

5” Gauge 7 1/4” GaugeRide-on-Coach Complete (unbraked) kit £999.00 £1168.00(Save around 15% against buying parts separately)

Inspection Saloon Driving Car : Complete (unbraked) kit £999.00 £1168.00(Save around 15% against buying parts separately)

Dual Manual Brakes – 2 discs/calipers/cables/lever £190.00 £190.00

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Coach & Inspection Saloon Kits - Individual Parts

Ride on Coach Parts: 5” Gauge 7 1/4” GaugePre-welded chassis assembly with bogie mounts. £ 117.06 £144.71

Pre-fabricated steel body, with integral buffer beams £ 277.65 £314.13

Acrylic sheet set for windows £ 28.12 £ 41.18

Upholstered Roof/seat £ 172.00 £184.71

Detail Kit – hinges, door handles, grab handles £ 33.00 £ 37.00

Removable Coach Foot-Boards – Pair £ 35.00 £ 45.00

Inspection Saloon Parts: 5” Gauge 7 1/4” GaugePre-welded chassis assembly with bogie mounts. £ 117.06 £144.71

Pre-fabricated steel body, with correct profiled sides: £ 277.65 £314.13

Acrylic sheet set for windows £ 28.12 £ 41.18

Upholstered Roof/seat £ 161.18 £184.71

Detail Kit – hinges, door handles, grab handles, wipers and lamp Irons £ 39.00 £ 42.35

Removable Inspection Saloon Foot-Boards – Pair £ 35.00 £ 45.00

Common Parts for both models:Coach Bogie Kit, includes wheels, axles, frames, springs, fixings. Bolt together. £ 207.65 £291.75

Buffer Beam Kit: Includes Carriage type buffers, clevis couplings and fixings £ 92.00 £119.00

Ready to Run Wagons

Key Features: (Additional features for certain models – see website for more detail )

● TIG welded body and chassis assemblies● Profile channel section for chassis● Rivet detail● Sprung buffers● Sprung draw hooks● Laser cut under-frame gear, brake & spring detail● Detailed axle box castings & LWC brass buffer stocks

Current Model Range:

!! ASK ABOUT DISCOUNTS FOR MULTIPLE WAGON ORDERS !!

Note: The following wagons are all fully built, painted and ready to run except for the 5 & 7 plank wagons – see below.

7¼“ gauge Driving TrucksBR 27t Iron Ore Tippler based, with twin disc brakes, uprated chassis and suspension, seat & clevis couplers N/A £ 825.00

STANDARD WAGON RANGE5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

Five Plank Wagon * £ 499.00 £ 585.00

Seven Plank Wagon * £ 539.00 £ 625.00(*Plank wagons are supplied as RTR Chassis with body in kit form)

BR Coil J Wagon £ 499.00 £ 575.00

BR 13t Sand Wagon £ 499.00 £ 575.00

BR 27t Iron Ore Tippler £ 499.00 £ 575.00

GWR Loriot M Low Machine £ 499.00 £ 579.00

LNER/BR 20 ton Brake Van £ 799.00 £ 869.00


PREMIUM WAGONS RANGE5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

BR Conflat-A Container Flat Wagon £ 615.00 £ 679.00

BR Standard Box Van £ 699.00 £ 765.00

16t Mineral Wagon (with opening end door) N/A £ 670.00

Gunpowder Van £ 629.00 £ 699.00

LMS 20 ton Brake Van £ 1160.00 £1260.00

GWR Toad Brake Van £1160.00 £1260.00

“Queen Mary” Bogie Brake Van N/A £1550.00

!! ASK ABOUT DISCOUNTS FOR MULTIPLE WAGON ORDERS !!

WAGON CHASSIS PARTS & MATERIALS

5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

Laser cut steel profiles - wagons:

Scale W Irons: Set 4 N/A 7LC040 £ 32.50

Scale V Hangers: Set 2 N/A 7LC041 £ 08.49

Standard W irons 3mm mild steel: Set of 4 5LC001 £ 19.15 7LC001 £ 25.90

Leaf springs (fake) 3mm mild steel: Set of 4 5LC002 £ 11.25 7LC002 £ 17.95

V hangers 3mm mild steel: Set of 2 5LC003 £ 04.95 7LC003 £ 05.60

Draw hook mounting pads: Set of 2 5LC004 £ 02.20 7LC004 £ 02.35

Draw hooks: Set of 2 5LC005 £ 04.35 7LC005 £ 05.49

Brake levers 3mm mild steel: Set of 2 5LC006 £ 04.15 7LC006 £ 04.59

Chassis Kits

(The laser cut chassis parts are designed for tig-welding together, but can be silver soldered, and then attached to the channel)

Basic Wagon Chassis kit - laser cut chassis kit including W irons, V hangers, brake frets, chassis spacer, dummy leaf springs, draw hooks and pads. Note: Now also includes chassis channel 9ft Wheelbase: 5LC007 £109.50 7LC007 £159.00

10ft wheelbase : 5LC008 £114.90 7LC008 £164.50

Complete Rolling Wagon Chassis Kit As above plus wheels / axles / buffers / bearings & springs

9ft Wheelbase 5LC057 £266.50 7LC057 £322.00

10ft Wheelbase 5LC058 £269.90 7LC058 £326.90

Loriot M Chassis Laser Cut Parts Kit – designed to be tig-welded, can be silver soldered5LC009 £179.90 7LC009 £229.90

Loriot Complete Rolling Chassis Kit As above plus wheels / axles / buffers / bearings & springs

5LC059 £329.00 7LC059 £399.00

5 Plank Wagon strapping – Complete set of laser cut steel strapping

5LC011 £ 60.00 7LC011 £ 67.50

Channel Section, etc:

9” x 3½” steel channel length, suits up to 17'6" chassis, ea: 5RM013 £ 04.25 7RM007 £ 04.95(3 lengths needed for standard 9ft wagon)

12" x 3½" steel channel - 3ft length, for brake vans etc 5RM014 £ 06.79 7RM008 £ 07.10

Vacuum Cylinder, cast resin (dummy) 5RM015 £ 08.90 7RM009 £ 11.50

Ready to Run Wagon Chassis


Complete Ready to Run chassis - 9’ wheel base, 5RM012 £314.00 7RM005 £425.90including wheels, buffers, dummy brake gear etc.

Complete Ready to Run chassis - 10’ wheel base, 5RM012/1 £319.50 7RM05/1 £430.00 including wheels, buffers, dummy brake gear etc.

Note: 5” gauge chassis supplied with our turned 3 hole disc wheels as standard - other types on request. 7.25” gauge supplied with turned 3 hole disc wheels as standard - other types on request.

WHEELS, BOGIES, Etc

5" gauge "SE 500" bogies

** Now also available as self assembly kit - £199.50 **(un-braked version)

Sturdy 8mm laser cut frames, roller bearings, wheels in EN8

Only requires spanner and hex keys to assemble

Supplied complete with nylon bearing/riser block

Bogies 5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

“SE500” bogies, Sturdy 8mm laser cut frames, sprung, EN8 wheels on ball races. RTR - Per pair: 5RM300 £249.00 N/A

Braked Bogies As above but with disc brakes (2 calipers) RTR - pair: 5RM300/B £379.00 N/A

Bogie Kit (Unbraked) All parts supplied, un-assembled and unpaintedOnly requires spanner and hex keys to assemble 5RM300K £199.50 N/A

7 1/4” gauge HD Standard Gauge Coach BogiesLoosely styled on LMS coach bogies and suitable for ride-on coaches etc. As used under our Ride on LMS coaches. Welded heavy duty frame, individually sprung axle boxes, with ball race bearings.

Unbraked per bogie: 7RM380 £ 319.00Braked – disc / caliper assembly fitted : per axle, add: £ 63.00

NEW! HD Narrow Gauge Bogies:

7 1/4” Heavy duty Narrow Gauge bogiesPriced per bogie: £ 268.00

Braked version (with brake shoes on allwheels)Priced per bogie: £ 328.00

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Narrow Gauge Loco Starter Chassis:Consists of sturdy 4 wheel welded chassis frames/buffer beams, supplied with sturdy bolt on W-Irons or "horns", axles, sprockets, wheels, axle boxes and springs. Just add your choice of motor/chain drive, electrics and body.

7NG0050 £500.00

Mechanical Brake Caliper Each: MISC012 £ 63.00

For disc brake applications. Machined aluminium caliper blocks sliding on steel pins, and supplied with a mounting bracket ready to fit to your own chassis. As used in our own driving truck and SE500 Bogies.. Suits both 5” gauge and 7 1/4” gauge applications, subject to space. To suit 3mm disc thickness.


Wagon Wheels / Axles 5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

Plain disc wheels, each 5RM310 £ 08.90 7RM310 £ 13.30

Standard 3 hole disc wheel sets (4 wheels/2 axles) N/A 7RM001 £ 91.60

3 hole disc wheel sets with contoured dish profile 5RM101 £ 57.50 7RM101 £130.00

8 Spoke, fully machined from solid bar, each: N/A 7RM210 £ 25.90

8 Spoke, cast iron wagon wheel castings - each N/A 7RM200 £ 23.95

8 Spoke, cast iron wagon wheels, machined – each N/A 7RM200M £ 35.95

Narrow gauge

Dished face wheel (6” tread dia. x 1 1/8” thick x 1” bore) N/A 7NG005 £ 19.70

4 x Wheels on axles, with sprockets, taper locks, & bearings N/A 7NG010 £163.70

NOTE: QUANTITY DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE, for 8 or more, on all Plain Disc

Wheels - Check our web shop listings or 'phone for details.

Axles

Axle for our 5” g disc wheels (10mm stub end - 1/2” bore) 5RM400 £ 8.75 N/A

Standard wagon axle (7 1/4”g also fits plain disc wheel) 5RM401 £ 8.75 7RM401 £ 9.85

Diesel Loco Wheel Axles (12mm stub 5/8” bore) N/A 7RM402 £ 9.85

7 1/4” g. Narrow gauge axle (20mm stub / for 1” bore) ea: N/A 7NG002 £15.65

Diesel Locomotive / Coach Wheels

3'7” Diesel Locomotive Wheel (flat dish profile) Each: 5RM315 £ 13.10 7RM315 £17.50

3'7” Coach Wheels (flat dish profile) Each: 5RM325 £ 13.10 7RM325 £17.50

3'9" Diesel Locomotive Wheel (flat dish profile) Each: 5RM320 £ 13.60 7RM320 £18.00

Slaters Scale Wheel/Axle sets – 5 inch gauge only

Correct scale, 3ft 1in diameter with true scale tyre/flange profile. Precision turned steel tyres with a

detailed centre insert moulded in engineering grade glass-filled nylon. (Suitable for 8mm i/d bearings)

3 Hole Disc wheels on axles ( 4 wheels 2 axles) 5RM001 £ 45.90 N/A

Split Spoke wheels on axles ( 4 wheels 2 axles) 5RM002 £ 45.90 N/A

Straight Spoke wheels on axles ( 4 wheels 2 axles) 5RM003 £ 45.90 N/A

Slaters Wheel/Axle sets with GL5 profile

As above, but with reduced tread diameter to give GL5 flange profile:

Straight Spoke wheels on axles, GL5 flange profile 5RM201 £ 50.90 N/A

3 Hole Disc wheels on axles, GL5 flange profile 5RM202 £ 50.90 N/A

Split Spoke wheels on axles, GL5 flange profile 5RM203 £ 50.90 N/A

Buffers:

Wagon Buffers5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

Set of 4 RCH Buffer Stocks, lost wax cast in brass: 5RM005 £ 36.00 N/A

Complete RCH sprung buffer kit 5RM010 £ 62.00 N/AIncludes: 4 x 13” buffer heads and shanks, lost wax cast brass buffer stocks; springs; retaining pins.

Set 4 standard CNC turned sprung wagon buffers N/A 7RM002 £ 47.44

Set 4 Oleo type, machined buffers, internally sprung. 5RM006 £ 42.00 7RM003 £ 55.00

GWR “self contained” type, sprung buffer sets 5RM035 £55.90 7RM030 £ 66.60To fit Dia AA7 Toad brake, and will suit several other models.

Set of 4 LMS 20t Brake Van type sprung buffers (4) N/A 7RM205 £ 58.00

Set 4 early type, tapered round stock, wagon buffers 5RM020 £ 52.90 7RM206 £ 63.30

Locomotive Buffers5” Gauge 7 1/4” Gauge

Set of 4 Oleo type Locomotive buffers 5RM026 £ 67.00 7RM011 £ 92.00

Set of 4 LMS/BR round head locomotive buffers 5RM025 £ 70.00 7RM006 £ 92.00

Set of 4 LMS/BR oval head locomotive buffers* 5RM025A £128.50 7RM006A £181.50

Mixed Set 2 x Round; 2 Oval Head LMS BR loco buffers* 5RM025B £ 99.90 7RM006B £136.75

*Note: The Oval head set and the Mixed set are supplied with slot & pin buffer head retainers, under the stocks, to facilitate fitting where no clearance can be allowed behind buffer beam.

Motors:

DC 12v Brushed Traction Motor The Mtroniks 'DC-12V' brushed motor is a large can sized motor ideal for use in single or multiple motor 5" gauge locos running between 12 and 16V. (No load RPM at 12V = 2400)

Ref: DC-12V £ 31.25 each

DC 24v 750w Motor Replacement for the popular but no longer available Bosch 1hpmotors.

Ref: DC-24V £133.30 each


Locomotive Detail Parts & Castings

5” gauge & 7 1/4” gauge Diesel Loco Buffer Beam Super Detailing Kit

Consisting of: • Air brake valves, pipes & connectors• Air Control valves & pipes• Blue star electrical jumpers• Rubber hoses included.

Lost wax cast in brass - just need to run a die down thethe cast-in threads, drill and tap the larger pieces thenfit to your buffer beam

Complete Kit: 7 1/4” g. 7RM350 £ 54.00 ~ 5” g. 5RM350 £37.00

Airbrake valve/pipe only - each: £ 8.00 7RM351 £ 10.00

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NEW!

Lost wax cast brass Steam Heat Valve with hose N/A 7RM356 £14.96

Lost wax cast brass Vacuum fitting & dolly with scale ribbed hose

N/A 7RM357 £18.50

Buffer Step & Plate Detailing Kit:Comprises: Lost wax cast brass steps / laser cut plates: (4 of each), for LMS/BR (Turton & Platt) Loco Buffers N/A 7RM006D £18.50

TIMKEN Axle box covers:Lost wax cast in stainless steel - each N/A 7RM355 £ 6.50

LMS 4000 Gallon Tender Axle Box Covers. Each: N/A LMST4010 £13.85(Lost Wax Cast in Brass)

Laser cut Class 20 Roof Grill/Fan detailing kit 5RM360 £18.80 7RM360 £ 28.25

Laser cut headcode disc kit 5LC210 £ 14.95 7LC210 £ 18.75(Contains parts for 4 open & 4 closed discs)

10 ¼" gauge Parts

Three Hole Disc wagon wheels, with contoured dish profile to both faces,

• Priced each: 10RM001 £ 60.00

CNC machined axles to suit above, each: 10RM005 £ 18.50

Machined sprung buffer assemblies (our standard type) set of four: 10RM014 £169.00

Machined sprung buffer assemblies (Oleo type) set of four: 10RM010 £179.00

LMS/BR Locomotive Buffers (Turton & Platt round head type) set of four:

10RM015 £190.00

Chassis kit: 9 ft wheelbase version, laser cut parts 10LC007 £199.00

10ft wheelbase version 10LC008 £215.00

Including W irons, V hangers, brake gear, chassis spacer, leaf springs (non-working), drawhooks and pads. Designed to be tig welded together - could be silver soldered

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Miscellaneous: Springs, Bushes, Chain

Coil Springs:

We currently use the following springs in our own range. Although they may be suitable for otherpurposes they are listed here under the usage to which we put them:

MAT015 7 ¼”Axle box coil springs (ea) £ 01.94 Carbon Steel - O/D 14.3mm - Free length 50.8mm – Spring rate 16.85 N/mm

MAT016 5” Axle box coil spring OR: 7¼” Buffer & draw hook springs (ea) £ 01.22 Carbon Steel – O/D 12.7mm – Free Length 31.8mm – Spring rate 7.97 N/mm

MAT018 5” Buffer & draw hook springs (ea) £ 01.09 Carbon Steel – O/D10.5mm – Free Length 25.4mm – Spring rate 2.29 N/mm

Oilite maintenance free bearings – for 5” g. wagons:

MAT021 8mm id. x 12mm o/d x 12mm flanged - each £ 01.49

Turned Phosphor/Bronze Bush Bearings – for 7 1/4” g. wagons:

MAT022 Turned Phosphor/Bronze Bush Bearings ½" x 5/8" x ½" - each £ 02.40

Coupling chain

MAT052 Link chain, black japanned, 3mm x 21mm - cut to your requirements – per ft: £ 01.20

MAT053 Link chain, black japanned, 4mm x 26mm - cut to your requirements – per ft: £ 02.25

Locomotives

Class 17 “Clayton” Ready to Run Locomotive

Now available to order:

5" & 7 1/4” gauge battery electric Diesel Locomotive

Featuring predominantly steel construction, with cast polyurethane detail castings. Supplied Ready to Run (batteries are the only extra needed and we can obtain these for you too if required)

• Out of the box onto the track!

• Laser cut and welded chassis

• Laser cut and fabricated steel body panels.

• Rivet detail, grills and vents etc all added as separate parts.

• 5” gauge version: Powerful - four x 150 watt motors

• 7 1/4” gauge version: Powerful - 2 x 1hp mtors in

• The latest MTroniks controller with re-gen braking and dead-mans switch as standard.

• LED running lights included

• Buffer Beam detail kit and Cab Detail kit included

• Supplied as standard in British Railways two tone green.

Prices:

5” Gauge - fully detailed as standard: £4750.00

7 1/4” Gauge - fully detailed as standard: £5699.00


Class 20 Ready to Run Diesel Locomotive

This locomotive features predominantly all steel construction, with cast polyurethane detail castings. (No flimsy GRP moulded body shells here!)

• Supplied Ready to Run (batteries not included)• Out of the box onto the track! • Laser cut and welded chassis • Laser cut and fabricated steel body panels with rivet detail, grills and vents etc all added

as separate parts. • Powerful, tried and tested Parkside motors as standard:• Four x 150 watt motors in 5" version. 2 x 1hp motors in 7 1/4” version• The latest MTroniks controller with re-gen braking and deadmans switch as standard. • Supplied in British Railways green/grey livery as standard.

Basic Model Ready to run prices :

5” gauge - from £4495*

7 1/4” gauge – from £5495*

(* batteries not included!)

Options:

• High quality, authentic Class 20 sounds system with powerful 50 watt speaker mounted inspeaker enclosure for better quality sound reproduction. + £275.00

• Working LED directional headcode lamps both ends - add £65• 2 x Headcode disc sets fitted (front and rear): - 5” version + £50.00 / 7 1/4” + £ 65.00• 2 x Buffer beam detailing kits fitted (front & rear): 5” version: £96.00 / 7 1/4” + £130.00 • Cab Seats and Desks kit fitted: 5” version + £70.00 / 7 1/4” + £ 90.00• Bogie pipework detail kit fitted (7 1/4” g only) + £100.00• Choice of liveries (may be a cost increase depending on complexity). • Batteries – cost dependent on spec.


Note: Prices are subject to change due to raw materials cost fluctuations,so please check when ordering.

E & O. E.

Carriage: Post & Packing / Carriage is charged at cost.

Payment Options:

Credit / Debit Card , PayPal, Bank Transfer (ask for details)

Cash on Collection, or cleared personal cheque, payable to “What Next”

Terms: Payment in full is required before shipping / collection.When ordering wagons and locomotives, built to order or bespoke items, where a lead time is involved, a minimum non-refundable deposit of 25% is required with order. An approximate completion date will be given. Balance is payable just prior completion / before shipping (Usually at the painting stage). Balance must be paid within 14 days of notification that order is complete, whether or not the order is to be shipped or collected immediately. We reserve the right to make a charge for storage if we have to hold finished orders for more than 2 weeks, due to limited storage space.

17D Miniatures

17D Miniatures is owned and operated by R, L & T Dengate trading as “What Next”

Safety Note

Our products are not toys and are thus not suitable for use by children under 14 without close adultsupervision. Owing to the nature of construction, there may be sharp edges.


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