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Page 1: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Puzzling girls

Rachel Brooks

Page 2: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

What are the questions?

• Are we missing girls with ASD?

• How do we diagnose them?

• Does it matter if they are missed?

Page 3: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Prevelance

• ASD 0.6 -1%• Male : Female

3-4 : 1 (school aged children population cohorts)

5-14 : 1 in clinical settings

(6:1 (ish) for our tertiary clinic)• Suggests girls with low normal to above normal

IQ are not being diagnosed

Page 4: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

ASD and the Extreme Male Brain

• Simon Baron-Cohen

• Postulates that the ASD brain is an extreme of the male brain

• Females with ASD have a more male brain than those without ASD

• Foetal testosterone?

• X and Y linked theories?

Page 5: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Why else ?

• Girls are more motivated to learn to conform socially and have better imitation skills to ‘pretend to be normal’

• Diagnostic instruments are unable to detect more subtle ways ASD presents in females

Page 6: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Are neuro typical girls and boys intrinsically different?

• Baron-Cohen would say so, boys are systemisers, girls are empathisers

• Wing – general population females better language skills, poorer visuo-spacial and maths skills

• Girls better at decoding facial expressions and non verbal cues, empathising and theory of mind

Page 7: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

• Girls build relationships by sharing thoughts and emotions

• Boys build relationships on object/activity related themes

• Girls world is definitely different to boy world!

Page 8: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Diagnostic instruments

• All designed to pick up ASD and calibrated for the original male phenotype of ASD

• Girls with ASD may not be picked up by current screening and diagnostic tools

• Little research in this area

Page 9: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

ASSQ-REV

• Lack of a best friend B>G• Interacts mostly with younger children G>B

Page 10: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

ASSQ-REV

• Avoids demands G>B

Why?

Parents less demanding of boys?

Girls with ASD may meet criteria for PDA

Higher co-morbid anxiety in girls

Girls avoid passively (ignore, etc,) and this is effective

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ASSQ-REV

• Has a different voice /speech G>B

• Not robotic

• Unusual, high pitched, hoarse

childish

Page 12: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

ASSQ-REV

• Carefree or over meticulous with physical appearance and dress

• Difficulties completing daily activities because of compulsive repetitions

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Girls special interests

• Animals, foreign cultures, fairy tale figures, famous people, comic strip personalities

• Painting , pottery, collecting, reading, beauty products, clothes

• Horse riding,

• Ice dancing

Page 14: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Play and imagination

• Is it imagination or re-enactment?

• There may be a script

• The girl needs to be in control

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Kopp and Gillberg 2010

A girl who• Avoids demands• Is very determined• Who interacts (mostly) with younger children• Who is carefree or over meticulous with physical

appearance and dress• Who acts or lives different parts (animals, TV stars)• Who had a different voice or speech• Who often has intense girl-oriented interests

Page 16: Puzzling girls Rachel Brooks. What are the questions? Are we missing girls with ASD? How do we diagnose them? Does it matter if they are missed?

Risks of non identification

• Bullying

• Vulnerability

• Depression,

• Negative self perception

• Self harm

• Anorexia (18-23% of girls with anorexia also present with signs of Asperger syndrome – Gillberg and Billstedt, 2000)