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THE RIM COUNTRY CLASSIC AUTO

CLUB IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION

FOR THE PURPOSE OF:

Providing social, educational and recreational activities for its membership.

Participating in and supporting civic activities for the betterment of the community.

Encouraging and promoting the preservation and restoration of classic motor vehicles.

Providing organized activities involving the driving and showing of member’s cars.

RCCAC meets 

at 6:30p.m. on the 

first Wednesday of 

the month at  

Tiny’s Restaurant, 

600 E. Hwy. 260  

in Payson 

R I M C O U N T R Y C L A S S I C A U T O C L U B N E W S L E T T E R J U N E 2 0 1 6

Payson Arizona 

From President  Butch Tucker 

2016 RCCAC  PIT CREW President      Butch Tucker           480‐694‐1229            butchr51@hotmail.com V.P.                Bob LaFavor           928‐363‐0260            hotrodrob86u@gmailcom Secretary      Sandi Gunderson           928‐476‐2168            a57chevyman@q.com Treasurer     Tina Dychkowski             920‐216‐0830             nagak@yahoo.com Ac vi es       Mary Cailey           928‐474‐35‐3560            marycailey@yahoo.com 

Director        Byron Gunderson           928‐476‐2168            a57chevyman@q.com Director        Carl Cur s              928‐468‐8018            ccsewnski@npgcable.com Director        Steve fowler           928‐478‐6676 & Web Master  fowerauto@suddenlink.net   

Car Show Directors‐ Butch Tucker, Robert La Favor & Julius Zezima  zezimaj@aol.com   214‐563‐2214 

Newsle er    Margie Fowler           928‐478‐6676             margiefowler@suddenlink.net 

Well, the car show is behind us. I personally think it went over well. The little bit of rain we got didn't hurt us too bad. There are several newer model cars that want to enter the car show. They just want to show their car - it has been explained to them that they are not in competition and they said that was okay. Do we let them in? Do we have a trophy for motorcycles?

Mark Salem took the club trailer to his house and did a bang-up job of refur-bishing it. Byron, Sandi, Ken, Butch and the Salems cleaned out the trailer and some of the stuff that had been in there for years found a new home.

The VMCCA Luncheon went over very well. I do believe our visiting guests were impressed.

I'm sorry that I didn't get to go to the museum, but prior commitments didn't allow it to be. But I am looking forward to the next activity.

Margie would like to hear from every-one in the club about your car(s), how you got it, what's been done to it, etc. She would like to do articles for the newsletter about your rides. So please contact Margie.

Butch

Traveling with the 

1909? What do you know

about that year?

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FROM THE GLOVEBOX 

UP  COMING  ACT IV I T I ES  

        June  At a Glance

1 RCCAC meeting 6:30pm 9 WOW 18 Pizza Party at the Cailey’s 19 Happy Fathers Day lunch at “Diamond Point” on 260 25 “Show n Shine” in Auto Zone parking lot. 5:PM

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The movie is voted on at the monthly club meeting.

It’s always on a Saturday at 10am and is announced via e-mail.

Make sure your e-mail is up to date! $7.00 gets you the movie, a small

drink and a small popcorn.   

  8– Greg Furnas   9‐ John Hall 16– Bill Olsen 19– Dick Hedman 22– Laurel Grider 

23– Tom Gossard 23—Chuck Taylor 25– Bill Grider 25– Mimi Halgren 30—Paul Jones 

Women On Wheels

WOW 

June 9th   Randall House in Pine “Yes Again” 11:30 pm   

Payson gals meet at the Stage parking lot at 11:am to Car Pool.  

Congratulations 

50 / 50   Winner 

Butch Tucker 

Member  

Of the  

Month Tina 

Dychkowski 

WOW 

LOOK What’s Coming Up

        

 

ACTIVITIES FOR JUNE 

June 18th PIZZA PARTY at the Cailey’s  1101 S. Milk Ranch Pt. Payson 5:pm Please bring a salad or a dessert. RSVP to Mary Cailey  

June 19th Fathers Day Lunch at “Diamond Point” Restaurant 

on 260 Mee ng at Roud’s Furniture parking lot 12:30pm 

June 25th Show n Shine in the Auto Zone parking lot  

5:00pm to ?? Hot Dogs provided.  

 

CORRECTION: Wallace, Darrel & Deb     480‐232‐7869  

NEW: Larry Coleman        928‐474‐5447 Jerry Bauler      Don’t have phone number yet Jim Franklin          480‐688‐2330 

Here's a trivia ques on‐ what does the acronym  RSVP mean? 

       Sorry, but I can't help no cing that much of our membership seems to be in the dark about that. Those who do the planning and prepara on ask for a response so they can semi‐accurately predict how many will par cipate. The percentage who respond versus the number who show up is o en pre y far off, and frustrates those who do the  planning. So, in case you were wondering, RSVP is from the French répondez s'il vous plaît, or please reply. Now you know! 

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News From The Backseat 

VMCCA   BBQ  On Wednesday, May 18th, the club hosted a luncheon

for the VMCCA (Veteran Motor Car Club of America). The day looked threatening, with heavy rainfall along the rim and light rain in Payson, but thankfully the weather broke just in time for the event. Carl Curtis spearheaded the food acquisition and preparation, with Bobi Beveridge rounding up volunteers for desserts. Burgers and hot dogs, a variety of salads, chips, drinks

and a large variety of desserts were on hand for the crowd that showed. The guest group had paid for 175 lunches, and with the club members that also attended and had lunch, it was estimated that just over 200 people were fed. The VMCCA brought a fascinating collection of collector cars, ranging from some very early cars including a V-16 Marmon to cars from the 60's and 70's, and it was fun to talk to the owners about their respective rides. We had music from the 50's and 60's playing, and our guests had a great time visiting

with us and each other. What started out as a day that looked as though it could be a disaster in the making turned out to be a thoroughly enjoya-ble event. Many thanks to all the RCCAC members who pitched in and helped and who brought desserts for the crowd! It was a great event. SF 

Mothers Day Event  The Mothers Day brunch was a great success!  We all met at That Brewery in Pine at 1:00.  The day was cold and rainy, but the ladies looked beau ful and a great  me was had by all!

We had 18 members a end and the tables look so pre y.  Thank you to Mary Cailey for pu ng the goodie bags together to give out to all the mothers that day!! We told fun stories of our motherhood and the husbands got a lot of laughs listening.

Thanks to all of you that came and we look  forward to more good  mes together.  

     Sue Hedman

A big thanks you to all the wonderful WOW ladies that came to our 

May  luncheon!  As usual, we had a fabulous me!  Ea ng at the Randall House is always a 

treat.  Great food and service.  Boy, we had so many laughs that I felt sorry for all the other guests ea ng their lunch.  Great  me though!!  The a endance seems to increase with each month.  We had 14 la‐dies, and somehow gathered around the table and had a blast! We decided to go the the Randall House again and sit outside under the trees.  The date is always the 2nd Thursday of each month at 11:30.  Remember, guests are always welcome to join us. Thanks again and looking forward to our next  me together! Sue Hedman 

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About 19 months ago my wife and I decided to embark on a new car journey. Drag racing has always been my first love, but with the closing of one track in the general Phoenix area and old age steadily creeping in, it was time for an automotive venue change. We had a fresh Mopar engine and trans sitting around for the last 4-5 years and they needed a home.

While surfing the net I ran across a new company out of Indianapolis, IN called “Custom 33”. They were selling custom fiberglass 1933 Plymouth bodies and a bare bones rolling chassis to go with it. We kicked it around for a while and finally decided to take the “Hot Rod” plunge. This project was going to take me well out of my comfort zone, but with my wife’s full support (and good direction in many areas), we took delivery of the ‘33 in August of 2014.

The plan was to build a car we could drive in any weather and keep the costs in the general vicinity of what we thought we could sell it for in the future. This meant me doing as much of the work as possible in my garage.

Work started by locating the drive train (engine & trans) in the chassis. The engine is a Chrysler 360” small block with 9.7:1 compression, street style hydraulic cam, pocket ported big valve Chrysler heads, Chrysler ignition, Edelbrock

dual plane intake, topped off with a altitude compensated Thermoquad 4 barrel carburetor and fully adjustable PCV system. Transmission is a Chrysler 727 with a street style valve body shift kit and a 2800 – 3200 stall convertor. Canted 4 link coil-over rear suspension supports a Ford 9” with Currie axles, 3.55:1 gearing and positraction.

I decided to break my work down by individual automotive components (interior, brakes, steering, electrical, HVAC, cooling, fuel, exhaust). I learned quickly that space was at a premium and I had better be thinking multiple steps ahead to leave room for “that windshield wiper system”, etc. Progress was steady and Mary was always there for “consultation” when I ran into a road block. She also added many cool touches that made this build unique, such as the exterior color and interior material. Without too much gnashing of teeth, we finally got the car licensed and on the road in April of 2016.

Some unique features of the car include: Dual reverse (located under the dash), Wilwood brake master cylinders with front / rear brake bias adjustability from

the driver’s seat, and adjustable electronic cooling fan control also from the driver’s seat. Safety suicide door locks with dash mounted warning lights and built in safety systems for car entry were also added.

Like all “new cars”, some “recalls” were expected, including adding additional front fender bracing, Larger radiator over-flow tank, and heavier coil-over springs front and rear.

We are looking forward to many miles of “Happy motoring”, John & Mary Cailey

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  Igni on  ming is one of the most important factors in engine power produc on and efficiency, as well as having a large effect on emissions. This is one of those areas where More’s Law needs to be avoided. More’s Law (also known as the hot rodders rule of thumb) states that if some’s good, more’s be er, and too much is just right. This will apply to each of the upcoming ar cles, and I won’t redefine the law for you again. 

  There are many   factors that determine ideal  m‐ing, and I’ll enumerate and explain them in a minute, but first, the basic idea is that igni‐on should be ini ated 

such that the burn is complete when the cranksha  is about 10‐15 degrees a er top dead center (ATDC).   This pre y much always requires the spark to occur while the piston is s ll moving up on the com‐pression stroke, before top dead center (BTDC). If it finishes too soon, the pressure in the cylinder rises rapidly while the piston is s ll moving up, actually trying to force the piston backwards, and also results in a huge pressure spike right at top center, while the piston can’t go down. This is heard as an audible knock as all the parts are overstressed, and can result in: broken rings, bent rods, blown head gaskets, beat out bear‐ings, broken main webs—you get the picture. If it’s too late, the flame front and ensuing pressure rise literally chase the piston down the hole, and li le power is produced, along with overheated exhaust (I’ve seen headers glowing on an idling engine) and ro en mileage. But it does run cleaner on some emissions items and was a technique used by the factories in the seven es to meet tailpipe standards. Sounds simple‐ just start the spark so the burn finishes just when you want it to. But wait! It’s not that simple. Here are those factors that change the burn  me and the advance requirement.  

  First, the engine speed varies, and as it increases, the    engine rotates farther during the burn process and spark has to be started sooner in the cycle to finish correct. It’s like duck hun ng‐ to hit a moving target, you have to aim ahead, and the faster it moves the more lead you give the duck, or you will end up with tail feathers or less. 

  Second, as pressure in the cylinder increases, the burn rate increases. Several things factor in here. Higher compres‐sion speeds up the burn, and requires less advance, as does boost (super or turbo). Also, be er ports, valves and camsha  will increase pressure at higher speeds. High al tudes thin the 

air, and require more advance, as does part thro le opera on (ever try ge ng a lungful of air through a soda straw?) 

  Third, as the air temperature in the cylinder increases, the burn rate increases, and  ming needs to retard. This can be due to higher thermostat se ngs, heated air intakes, turbo or supercharger hea ng without an intercooler, or just plain weather. Next, chamber design is important. Newer engines use high turbulence designs that speed up the burn. Finally, the fuel itself may have different burn rates. A very lean mixture burns slow (the infamous Chrysler Lean Burn engines had very funky igni on advance), a near perfect mixture burns fast, and a rich one burns slow. A high octane fuel burns slower than regular, and requires more advance, all else equal (but on a high compression engine, helps prevent knock). Gasohol like we all buy or E‐85 like they have back East, messes with all of this also. 

  Modern cars can compensate for nearly all of these, and the computer controls have resulted in extremely precise   ming. Add in a knock sensor to correct for slight over‐advance 

and you have the closest to perfec on we can achieve. But for you poor devils running a mechanical distributor, you can only deal with factors one and two, and only in an approximate way. 

  Base  ming for most older engines is happiest at about 10 degrees BTDC. This is tweaked to compensate for the above factors. Centrifugal advance –flyweights working against springs‐ is typically dialed in to provide full centrifugal  advance by about 2500 rpm on a performance motor. You can usually buy weight and spring kits to fool with this. Stockers are o en slower coming in to prevent pinging with lower   numerical rear axles. Total advance at wide open thro le is usually about 32‐36 degrees, again depending on above factors. So if ini al  m‐ing is advanced, centrifugal needs to be reduced to keep the total in line. 

  The other factor we can mess with is vacuum advance, which deals par ally with factor two. Advancing the  ming at part thro le improves mileage but won’t change max power, cuz that doesn’t  happen at part thro le. So old race cars elimi‐nated vacuum advance because it didn’t work at idle or WOT, the only posi ons for the pedal in a race car. On the street, you want it. O en mes, the factory advance units add too much advance and at higher vacuum values than we want for our hot rods. If possible, buy an adjustable unit, and if not available, buy one designed for a high performance factory engine. For example, the vacuum and centrifugal values on a Corve e were much be er than those for an Impala. 

  This should give you some ideas on how to op mize your igni on  ming, or maybe will help turn you to the dark side of electronic  ming control. “Luke, I am your father….” 

T e ch H i n t s & t i p s

TIMING IS EVERYTHING B y S t e v e f o w l e r

1909?

What do you know about that year?

STATS:

There were 76 million Americans in 46 states.

The average worker made $12.98/week for 59 hours

46 million in the U.S. Treasury

8000 cars and 144 miles of paved roads.

The maximum speed limit in most cities was was 10 mph.

14 percent of the homes had a bathtub

8 percent of the homes had a telephone

PRICES:

Gasoline: 12 1/2cents per gallon

Stamps: 2 cents

Sugar cost 4 cents a pound

Eggs were 14 cents a dozen

HEALTH:

Life expectancy: 47.3 female, 46.3 male

More than 95 percent of all births took place at home

Top 3 leading causes of death were:

1. Pneumonia and influenza

2. Tuberculosis

3. Diarrhea

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT:

William Howard Taft succeeds Roosevelt on March 4th.

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INTERESTING EVENTS:

In 1909 Henry Ford introduced the Model T. The first rolled off the assembly line Oct. 1 1908 but January 1 is when most people knew about the new Model T. There were several body styles that rode above the same chassis.

February 16—1st subway car with side doors goes into service in New York City.

February 24 – The Hudson Motor Car Company is founded.

June 9 – Alice Huyler Ramsey, See last month's newsletter for story.

August 12 – The first event is held at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. See next months newsletter for story.

November 11 – The U.S. Navy founds a navy base in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

December 31 – The Manhattan Bridge opens. Thanks to Sue Hedman for sharing some of this info with us.

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For sale, two lo-back Poly bucket seats and seat covers and lap style seat belts. New. $75. Two 15X7 steel wheels in dual 4.5 and 4.75 bolt pattern. Excellent shape. No rust. $45. Rear seat for 77,78,79 Chrysler Cordoba. Red.

excellent used condition. $30. Stock fuel tank, straps and sender for 77,78,79 Cordoba. This is the hard to find tank for factory dual exhaust cars. $50. Call John Cailey at (928) 474-3560.

Ron Trainor has a friend in Chino Valley who has a 1973 Triumph Spitfire for sale. It’s in pretty good shape, it has 110K miles on it. For a non car person she has taken pretty darn good care of it and had a lot of work done to it. She said she loves it, and hates to sell it, but she can’t push the clutch very well anymore because of the arthritis in her feet. She’s asking $3950 Call Ron at 602-763-5569

NOTE: If you want to advertise please send an e-mail to margiefowler@suddenlink.net not the clubs e-mail.

Looking to sell parts OR Looking for parts!

June

4 Show Low Days, Show Low AZ

4 Dewey, Az. Orchard Ranch Car Show

11 Holbrook Route 66 Festival & Classic Car Show

July

23 Snowflake Pioneer Days Car Show

August

6-7 Annual Car Exhibit, And Parts Exchange At Watson Lake

September

16- Apache County Motor Sports Days, St. Johns AZ

23-25 Run to the Pines Pinetop AZ

October

15 - Tucson Classics Car Show - Tucson

November

18-20 Good guys Southwest Nationals—Scottsdale

For more information on more shows and registration forms visit the web sites below:

www.cruisearizona.com www.cruisinarizona.com/carshows.html

If interested in going as a group contact Mary Cailey our Activities gal to see if something can be arranged.

Upcoming Car Shows

Not actual vehicle file photo. 

 

The above picture I took of this poster we purchased several years ago, is hanging in our shop. If you would like a copy of it or any of this ar sts other fun prints go to h p://jimsnookstudio.myshopify.com/collec ons/posters    Happy Fathers Day!   MF 

Meeting Minutes can be reviewed on the clubs website: along with back issues of the clubs newsletters and history.

http://clubs.hemmings.com/rccac/

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