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Page 1: Science and Creationism 15. Botany © Colin Frayn, 2008-2011

Science and Creationism

15. Botany

© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Page 2: Science and Creationism 15. Botany © Colin Frayn, 2008-2011

© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Tree Ring Dating• “Dendrochronology”

– Trees (usually) grow one ring per year– Counting rings tells us a tree’s age– It can also tell us more…

• Climate affects a tree’s growth rate• Different growth rates lead to different ring sizes• So we can get a history of climate from tree rings

• Dating wooden artifacts– Of course, we don’t need to have a tree

• Wooden objects have tree rings in them• We can line up those rings with calibrated tree rings• Tells us when the tree was cut down to make the object

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© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Objections to Tree Rings• Dendrochronology is used to date old objects (>10,000 years)

– Wooden artifacts– Old (but long dead) trees

• Do trees reliably create 1 ring per year?– They sometimes create ‘double’ rings

• We can easily spot these and discount them• The species commonly used for dating do this very rarely

– Bristlecone pines: once in every few hundred trees– Ferguson, 1968, ‘Science’ vol 159

– They sometimes have ‘missing rings’• This would tend to make us underestimate the tree’s age

• Tree ring dating can be anchored– Wooden artifacts of known historicity– Evidence that correlates to known historical events

• E.g. unusually cold years after large volcanic eruptions• Can calibrate tree rings very accurately

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© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Anchored Histories• IntCal04

– The International Calibration for tree ring chronology

– Agrees on a rigorous set of samples– Anchors dates back to 24,000 B.C.– Calibrated by

• Other tree rings• Archaeology• Carbon-14 dating

Established scale

Matched sample

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© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Oldest Trees in the World• “Methuselah” (California, USA)

– Estimated germination 2832 BC• Germinated before the flood• How did it survive the water?

• Clonal species– Original trees reproduce by exact cloning– Dalarna, Sweden

• Norway spruce• Estimated age : 9,550 years

– Mount Read, Tasmania• Huon pine• Estimated age : 10,000 years

• Oldest living tree is <5,000 years old– This doesn’t imply that the Earth is young!

Img: Great Basin Bristlecone Pines

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© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Kei Mori and the Big Plants• Japanese physicist (1932-1990)

– Grew tomato plants in special conditions– No UV, IR light– Highly pressurised CO2

– Plants grew very quickly, provided high yield– Hypothesised that this might explain ‘giant’ biblical creatures

• I can’t find any research articles on this subject– How reliable is it?– The only reports I can find are creationist websites

• How plausible is the argument?– The vapour canopy idea is physically impossible

• See slides on the ‘flood’, ‘longevity’– Dinosaurs were not just ‘overgrown lizards’

• See slides on ‘dinosaurs & man’

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© Colin Frayn, 2008-2011www.frayn.net

Genetically Modified Crops• Hovind claims that GM crops are evil

• Norman Borlaug (b. 1914)– Credited with saving over a billion lives…– …by developing genetically modified crops

• No evidence whatsoever that GM is dangerous

• GM crops can reduce our need for– Fertiliser & Pesticides

• Vastly reduce the ecological damage caused by adding harmful chemicals to the environment

• Breed disease resistant, high-yield crops– Farmland

• Vast areas of rainforest are being destroyed to provide farmland for arable crops

• GM crops would reduce this